Claimed Eyewitness Account Of Weinhaus Shooting
This story – first published to the forum castboolits.gunloads.com – was written by someone who claimed to have witnessed the tail-end of the recent shooting of Jeffrey Weinhaus.
Complete overview/videos: http://copblock.org/jeffreyweinhaus
One thing that I found curious when reading it was the claim made by the writer, that the triggermen wore badges that:
On the top it had Federal Bureau of Investigations, in the middle it had the Justice Department seal, and on the bottom it had Department of Homeland Security
That’s odd because DOJ and DHS are separate agencies. Perhaps an oversight on the supposed eyewitness account due to the stress of the situation?
Also, in contradiction to the author of the write-up, Weinhaus’s friends acknowledge that he was open carrying.
Regardless, I wanted to share it here in case there is some kernels of truth, in the hopes that others with knowledge of how the incident unfolded will step-forward. Especially as details about the incident released by the claimed “authorities” has been scarce and the names of those who put two bullets into Weinhaus’s chest and one into his head haven’t been disclosed.
What I witnessed
Today around 1300 hours my friend form the land down under were going to go fishing so we jumped in my car with the gear and headed to the local county store/gas station down the road a few miles from the house to buy some beverages and some bait. We was having a good time as we pulled into the parking lot. I noticed a new car sitting in the middle of the lot nearly blocking half the parking spaces, and my thought was, “jackasses from the city just don’t have any respect for a man and his customers.”
We parked along side the building after squeezing by the big new GM luxury Sedan. There was a couple of fellas on the back of a flat bed truck hanging up new guttering that had been torn off by the recent storms, on the front of the store. Both my friend and I opened our doors and got out of the car and headed around the corner of the building to the front of the store. As we rounded the corner I heard , “Pop, pop, pop, pop” real rapid. At first I thought it was a the guys putting up the guttering using an air nailer, then I saw about 30 yards away a fella fall over on the parking lot, and was bleeding from the chest and shoulder and there was a man standing over him pointing a gun at him. A second man run out from the car that I had been forced to drive around with a gun drawn and at the same time the clerk in side started screaming. I then noticed that both men with guns were wearing brown kevlar vests with big bold letters FBI on the back. I also did not see a gun in the man’s hand, on the ground, or see the agent pick up a weapon of any kind off the ground. I spent a good 30 seconds counting weapons and assessing the situation as was my friend. With there being two armed federal agents and a wounded man on the parking lot I knew there was nothing I could do out there, so I headed in to the store to check on the clerk.
I got inside and she is standing at the window screaming, “they shot him, he was in the store dropped off his news letters talked to me about getting his computers back, and when he left the store the one waved him over there they talked for a moment and then they shot him.”
I ask, “did he have a gun?” as I was starting to put two and two together when she said news letters. There is a fellow in the area who over the last few years who has been very critical of our leaders and the corruption that is taking place. He writes and publishes a fairly regular news letter and passes it out at all of the local shops that will allow him to distribute them.
She said, “No, he was standing there talking to the tall guy with his hands out in front palms up as if questioning what the guy wanted.” “He didn’t have a gun,” she said, “he is in here all the time and is a very peaceful man, he was excited that he FBI was going to give him his computers back.”
This made the alarm bells go off in my head, and I told her to stay put stay behind the counter and I would be right back. My buddy Mr X I will call him stayed out side to cover my back as any good Special Forces Soldier will do. I went back out and the two Feds were standing over the guy holding their guns on him as he was bleeding out. I told Mr X to keep and eye on things as I went back in. I smelled a Rat, and a big one at that. I knew the guy they had just shot, not that we were good friends but I had spoken with him on many occasions in that very store. He was a great deal like Mel Gibson’s character in the movie “Conspiracy Theory.” A bit paranoid, a bit off, but completely harmless. He was convinced that his phone was tapped and the Gov was reading his emails, all because he published a little news letter in the local community. I always blew most of his rantings off as delusional paranoia, until today.
About 5 min at least after the shooting, Highway Patrol, and County Deputies started pouring in from everywhere, along with an Ambulance. The wounded man was treated and hauled off, but while he was being treated the two shooters came over to talk to Mr X and I. The one acted like it was just another day at the office and the actual shooter was a cocky arrogant SOB, who was too good to talk to anyone or do anything other than look down his nose at everyone. As Mr X talked to them, I was sizing them up, and looking for more info on these two cool cats. I finally saw their badges on their belts, and got a close look at one. On the top it had Federal Bureau of Investigations, in the middle it had the Justice Department seal, and on the bottom it had Department of Homeland Security. It didn’t take long before these two and the 60 or so other officers who had arrived on scene had been in and out of the store many times.
I went back into the store to check on the clerk and ask her for a copy of the news letter he had just dropped off. She told me, “there is a stack of them on the counter take as many as you would like.”
“Where?” I ask , looking all around the counter for them.
“Right there on the counter,” she said, as she walked back over. “They were right there just a few minutes ago,” as she pointed to the spot on the counter where the man had placed them. She frantically looked around for them and kept saying, “where did they go? They were right here when he walked out to meet them.”
I told her not to worry about it and went back out side, and ask a the head of the local troop of Highway patrol when we could go. He was my neighbor and we grew up together. He told me that he would need a statement from me and Mr X before we could go. I told him, off the record what I saw, and also told him I would not talk to the Feds, because their handling of the situation and attitude made me ill. I am a battle hardened calloused bastard that saw more brutality and cruelty in one year than a person should see in a life time, and the whole incident got to me, plus it ruined my fishing trip because I had to hang around and wait to be cleared off the site by the investigators.
Before Mr X and I were cleared to leave, and we were talking to the Trooper I knew and was friends with, one of the county deputies came up and ask the Trooper if the media could come in, and he nodded his head toward the two Feds and said, “It is not my call.”
A few hours later on some of the local news sights it was being reported as the man being shot by the State Troopers, and no reference to the Feds. On the tele Fox news was reporting it as being the Highway Patrol Drug task force who shot him, and had a spokesman for the State Troopers saying how the man had a gun the troopers told him to put the gun down and when he didn’t comply they had to fire on him, and that both troopers were in distress and saddened over the situation. First off I there were 3 of us for sure that saw no gun and secondly the agent didn’t say anything to him about dropping a weapon. Heck they were less than 75 feet away I could hear them talking when I got out of the car, couldn’t understand it because they were not being loud, but there was no, “Put the gun down, ” told to the man like the Highway patrol spokesman said.
Here is my questions: Why would the FBI operating under the Department of Homeland Security, along with the Justice Department be all up tight and worried about a man with a wife and 2 small children who was considered by many to be a conspiracy theory nut job, but totally harmless?
Why would they collect his news letter if he were a harmless nut job?
Why would they shoot the man in cold blood with out justification and act like it is just another day at the office? This man was unarmed, period. There are too many people who saw the whole thing go down.
Why is the Highway Patrol covering for the FBI and Homeland Security?
Is the Obama admin and Erick Holder going to start going after small time, small town, loud mouthed critics of the administration who point out corruption at all levels of government? If so what does that mean for folks like many of us, many of whom are probably reading this right now?
Lastly what do I do with all of this information that I have and know? The few folks that were there, the clerk, and the two carpenters will probably be convinced that it was the Highway Patrol who shot that man just like everyone else who watches the evening news or reads the news paper. Mr X and myself both know better. We know the shooters were FBI from the DOJ, and we know the man was unarmed, and we know there was no warrant being served as the news also stated. That mans children are going to grow up thinking their father tried to kill a state trooper, who was trying to serve a warrant to him on a drug charge. The man was not a doper, or a pot head period. I feel I owe it to his wife and kids to tell them the truth. The man was a nut case, or maybe he wasn’t, but he most certainly is not a cop killer and a drug abuser, and he was shot in cold blood by a couple of thugs with guns and a badge that read FBI and DHS.
We are loosing our country fellas. As I pieced together what the clerk told me and what I saw play out here is some of what I figure happened. The feds took his computers that he was told to meet them there so he could get his computers back. He walked out of the store and the one waved him over. They started talking, and I am sure he realized that he was not going to get his computers back, he had his hands visible and there was no gun. The feds wanted him dead or incapacitated spot on, so they shot him in the chest. There is no reason to have shot this man other than it was politically motivated, and why is the Feds making the highway patrol take the blame for the shooting when it was those two FBI/DHS agents who were the ones who did it. MR X after reading all of the news articles on line and watching the news on TV is asking me, “How can everyone just lie like that? How can your federal agents just get away with shooting an unarmed man and then let someone else take the fall?”
My response, “welcome to the Fundamental Changes made to America, under Obama. I am so mad I can’t stand it. I am sorry, murder is murder be it done by a LEO or by a gang banger, and what I saw was at the least attempted murder, if the guy lives, and 1st degree murder if he doesn’t. I know there is a lot of information to digest here. Please read it several times if you have to, to fully understand what is happening in our county. I was at one time proud to be an American, and proud to show off my country to my foreign friends, but not anymore. Mr X is disgusted with what he saw, as was all of us there. I am ashamed that Mr X had to see that event unfold. His comment to me, “land of the free, home of the brave as long as you don’t cross paths with a federal agent.” I am just sick and disgusted over the whole thing.
Much more information on the referenced forum.
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