MH 17 shoot down

Yesterday there was a tragedy – crashed airliner flight Amsterdam – Kuala Lumpur. Could our friends to give any comment about the cause of this crash? [and from another] My question is: what is the cause of the Malaysian B 777 aircraft catastrophe which occurred on July 17th? If it was shot down then why and by whom? Recently militia had shot down the plane an-26 of the air force of Ukraine at the height of 6,500 m. But Boeing 777 was flying at an altitude of 10,000 meters, and the means of air defense militias are not able to shoot down flying so high goals without additional funds targeting. Based on these data it can be assumed that the crash could be planned provocation in order to issue the fighting in the South-East of Ukraine militia guilty in the death of innocent people, to make them terrorists in the eyes of the world community. Well, then to attract NATO or any of force to suppress the resistance. Especially now, when the militia successfully defeating the invading their territory troops of Ukraine. [and from another] As Planet X is coming closer each day and strange things have happened to airplanes before, could this be planet x related instead of a war declaration? And if so, is the elite using this to come to a new war? [and from another]http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/17/world/europe/ukraine-malaysia-airlines-crash/index.html?hpt=hp_t1  The route taken by the Malaysian flight is a very common one between Kuala Lumpur and the Netherlands. Ukrainian officials reportedly accused a Russian fighter of shooting down a Ukrainian jet Wednesday [July 16] as that aircraft flew in Ukrainian airspace. Tensions are high over that incident. [and from another]  http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/18/world/europe/ukraine-malaysia-airlines-crash/index.html?hpt=hp_t1  Ukraine and Russia both have the missile capability to shoot down such an aircraft for such an altitude. [and from another] http://rt.com/news/173628-malaysian-plane-crash-ukraine/  The militias fighting in eastern Ukraine against the government troops have no weapons systems that could have shot down the Malaysia Airlines plane, the General Prosecutor of Ukraine, Vitaly Yaryoma, stated citing a military report submitted to President Petro Poroshenko. Earlier there were reports that the militia had captured a Buk missile launcher, which could have done it, but Kiev insisted that the system was out of order and could not be repaired by the militia. [and from another] http://www.smh.com.au/world/mh17-us-satellites-tracked-missiles-path-to-airliner-20140718-zulxh.html  The US Air Force has satellites in high-Earth orbit that use infrared sensors to detect heat from missile and booster plumes against Earth’s background. US radar installations and other assets in the region would assist in tracking any surface-to-air missile, which Ukrainian officials have said probably came from a Russian-made Buk system. The information would be relayed to US European Command, headquartered in Stuttgart, Germany. Separately, the US operates sensitive listening satellites that can capture a wide range of electronic emissions from foreign nations’ defence systems, allowing analysts to determine the origin of the signals and the type weapon that was used. The combination of unique signals over a period of seconds or minutes would allow a US satellite to triangulate the point of launch and track the trajectory of the missile.  [and from another]http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/19/world/europe/malaysia-airlines-plane-ukraine.html  Two villagers said quietly that they had seen the flash of a rocket in the sky around the time the plane went down. It had come from the direction of Snizhne, a city where the Ukrainians have been bombing rebel positions frequently for more than a week.  [and from another]http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/  Malaysian Airlines MH17 plane was travelling almost the same route as Russia’s President Vladimir Putin’s jet shortly before the crash that killed 295. Putin’s plane and the Malaysian Boeing intersected at the same point and the same echelon. That was close to Warsaw on 330-m echelon at the height of 10,100 meters. The presidential jet was there at 16:21 Moscow time and the Malaysian aircraft – 15:44 Moscow time. The contours of the aircrafts are similar, linear dimensions are also very similar, as for the coloring, at a quite remote distance they are almost identical.  [and from another] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28MrASx-RiM  [and from another]http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-17/ukraine-releases-youtube-clip-proving-rebels-shot-down-malaysian-flight-mh-17  It was just over a month ago, on June 5, when in another attempt to cast blame and discredit the separatists, Ukraine released another trademark YouTube clip seeking to disparage and frame Kozitsyn, titled “Russian Cossack Formations are Responsible For Chaos In Ukraine.” [and from another] http://slavyangrad.wordpress.com/2014/07/18/spanish-air-controller-kiev-borispol-airport-ukraine-military-shot-down-boeing-mh17/  15:26 – 17 of July of 2014 The report indicates where the missile opened out, and specifies that it does not come from the self-defense in rebel areas. “The report indicates where the missile had come out [from], and specified is not from the selfdefence in rebel areas”. 

On the day a civilian airliner was shot out of the sky by a missile, what clues exist as to the hand on the missile and the agenda at play? Material from the aircraft, in pieces on the ground, will be useless in this regard, nor will any black box recorders provide information as the pilots and instruments were silenced instantly. What is known is what US satellites saw, what a Spanish air traffic controller working in Kiev saw being reported, what eye witnesses on the ground saw, the date on a recording claimed to be of a rebel conversation, and the fact that the Ukraine was having difficulty suppressing the rebellion on those in southeastern Ukraine.   

US satellites confirmed it was a missile, but delayed stating the source of the shot, an odd and very telling delay. Why so long in computing the trajectory? In that a Spanish air traffic control agent reported Ukraine military admitting the missile did not come from rebel areas, and in that this agent has now disappeared, we have our answer. Yes the rebels had a captured BUK but per a Ukraine official report, it was considered to be non-operational. Of course, the Ukraine also had the BUK, capable of rising to 33,000 feet to disable a plane. The Ukraine quickly put out a recorded conversation of the rebels bragging, but analysis of this recording shows it was made the day before the shootdown. 

Creating a tragedy to induce partners to enter into a war is certainly nothing new. The US has been accused of doing this at Pearl Harbor to allow the US to engage during WW II and the Gulf of Tonkin incident allowing the US to engage during the Vietnam war. Only months ago an incident with poison gas in Syria was shown to be an attempt to draw the US into a war with Syria on behalf of Israel. Despite the vote showing that the majority of people in the southeastern Ukraine region want to be considered Russian, the leadership in the Ukraine is furious that neither NATO or the US is fighting on their side. In that Putin was reported to be overhead on the same path as MH 17 just minutes before the shootdown, this is also an attempt to aggravate Putin to engage. 

The world will resist these attempts, but the truth of who actually shot down MH 17 will likely never be admitted by the west.

source: ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for July 19, 2014