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How Luciferians Think

August 11, 2015

(Max More is an associate of Ray Kurzweill, a leader of Transhumanism.)
Luciferians like Max More, left, present a caricature of God as some kind of perverse school master. Then they demolish this invention and proclaim Lucifer as the enemy of “superstition” and champion of personal freedom and reason. 
What a joke. What pompous, pathetic assholes.
God doesn’t resemble their straw man. He is synonymous with spiritual absolutes: Love, Truth, Beauty, Justice, Peace. 
Jesus said: “God is a Spirit: …worship him in spirit and in truth.” John 4:24
“Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.” Matt 5:48
Who in their right mind can deny that humans crave spiritual ideals, which are necessary for our survival and development? Who would thumb their noses at God? Luciferians are behind all the “progressive” movements — Communism, Socialism, Liberalism– that use “social change” to mask their hidden agenda, the induction of mankind into their satanic cult.
“No more gods, no more faith, no more timid holding back. Let us blast out of our old forms, our ignorance, our weakness, and our mortality. The future belongs to posthumanity.” – Max More, On Becoming Posthuman.

by Max More
(abridged by
The Devil – Lucifer – is a force for good. ’Lucifer’ means ‘light-bringer’ and this should begin to clue us in to his symbolic importance. 
The story is that God threw Lucifer out of heaven because Lucifer had started to question God and was spreading dissension among the angels. …
The truth may just as easily be that Lucifer resigned from heaven. God, being the well-documented sadist that he is, no doubt wanted to keep Lucifer around so that he could punish him and try to get him back under his (God’s) power. Probably what really happened was that Lucifer came to hate God’s kingdom, his sadism, his demand for slavish conformity and obedience, his psychotic rage at any display of independent thinking and behaviour. 
Lucifer realized that he could never fully think for himself and could certainly not act on his independent thinking so long as he was under God’s control. Therefore he left Heaven, that terrible spiritual-State ruled by the cosmic sadist Jehovah, and was accompanied by some of the angels who had had enough courage to question God’s authority and his value-perspective.
Lucifer is the embodiment of reason, of intelligence, of critical thought. He stands against the dogma of God and all other dogmas. He stands for the exploration of new ideas and new perspectives in the pursuit of truth.
God demands that we believe everything that he tells us, and that we do everything that he says without questioning. Destroy a tribe including the women, children and animals down to the last one? (Joshua 6.21) Why of course. Wait a minute, this doesn’t seem very nice. 
Yes sir, God Sir, whatever you say. See, here I am burning their books, pulling out their nails, torturing them for questioning Church dogma, banning the use of anaesthetic in child-bearing (since the pain is their just punishment for the acts of Adam and Eve). Help! I thought an improper thought! Help me to blind my mind God, help me not to see what my reason tells me. Let me repress thoughts of sexual desire, doubts about you and your orders, feelings of tolerance.
They call Lucifer the Prince of Lies. …The “lies” of Lucifer are attacks on irrational beliefs, beliefs based on fear and conformity to authority. Of course we should not call these lies. They are temptations to think for ourselves, a call for independent thought, a plea for taking responsibility for our own thinking and our own lives. Praise Lucifer! Praise the pursuit of truth through rationality. God was right to tell us not to worship false idols, but he refrained from telling us that all idols are false, and that all worship is dangerous. 
Even our praise of Lucifer must not be worship of an idol, but rather an expression of our agreement with his value-orientation and his perspective.
God and his Godists hate Lucifer’s call for rationality. Critical thinking digs at the very roots of God’s and their power over our minds. Independent thinkers do not make good slaves. Lucifer is the Prince of Lies because he is an expert at helping us to be rational….
God also hates us to enjoy ourselves. If we let ourselves experience too much pleasure then we might lose interest in obeying him. We might start running our own lives to bring us positive rewards rather than directing ourselves to avoid his wrath. We might become focussed on pursuing the positive instead of avoiding the negative. That would result in the downfall, of religious and state authority, so God has to stamp out such tendencies.
 He hates Lucifer who keeps turning up and tempting us to have a good time, to enjoy our lives. Adam and Eve’s sin was to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge. They dared to disobey a direct order which God expected them to obey without question, blindly. They acquired reason and intelligence to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge. They acquired reason and intelligence, and an ability to decide for themselves the values that they would pursue. Ever since then humans have been uppity – always given God trouble. …
… Lucifer perseveres in trying to point out to us that we have no reason to accept altruism. We can choose our values for ourselves, just as we can think for ourselves. Lucifer himself values the pursuit of happiness, knowledge, and new experiences. Most of all he values self- responsibility and independence even if that means that some people will not choose to value the things that he values. The extropians among us who share his perspectives and value- orientation should help him in his work.
In ending this discussion, I want to remind you that you are all Popes. You are all your own highest authority. You are the source of your action. You choose your values – whether you do so actively or by default. You choose what to believe, how strongly to believe, and what you will take as disconfirming evidence. No one has authority over you – you are your own authority, your own value-chooser, your own thinker. Join me, join Lucifer, and join Extropy in fighting God and his entropic forces with out minds, our wills and our courage. God’s army is strong, but they are backed by ignorance, fear and cowardice. Reality is fundamentally on our side. Forward into the light!
Thanks to David Livingstone for this tip! His “Transhumanism: How the Illuminati Depose God” appeared Sunday.


New First Comment from Tony B:
The only knowledge necessary here is that there is only one creator, God.  All else is created by Him.  It only makes sense to obey the commands of such a One, not listen to another creature’s promising lies.
The world, especially that of European peoples, did not make a single jump back to satanism after the Christian era.  It was induced by increments, the major one the nice sounding word “Liberalism,” the true meaning of the word being liberty from God’s commands.  Progression to “the rights of man,” promoted in American history books as a wonderful view of the founders (actually masons), was a major phrase of that liberalism as those words in turn meant that man would run the show, not God.  After all, those terms came about when nations were generally led by kings who, if they veered too far from Christian principles were liable to excommunication by the Church which Christ set up on earth.  If that were to happen they could no longer function as kings as no one in a truly Christian world at that time would obey them.  Therefore, the rules of God were generally obeyed, if not in heart by some, at least by law.  
The “liberals” changed that with the revolutions that overthrew Christian royalty, mostly the French but that of the American colonies was of the same tone and cooperated with the French, even though Henry VIII had centuries before destroyed English Christianity and incubated perfidious Britain. 
One more comment, the concept that we have no free will because God knows already what we will do is Calvinist (Cavin or Cohen) nonsense.  WE have the choice, God knowing what we will chose does not change the FACT that we can chose whatsoever we will, and we do.  
God runs a type of benevolent dictatorship, he lays out the rules, we can obey or disobey.  If we obey we reap the rewards He promises, if we disobey we reap the punishment He promises.  The only “democratic” part of it is that He allows us to chose as we will.  He also gives us opportunities to gain forgiveness for disobedience and, again, we have the choice of obeying or disobeying.  Pretty simple, one has to be mislead by worldliness to miss seeing it.

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    • Louis

      The notion of Lucifer as the “light-bearer” is way over-stated and somewhat misunderstood.

      All sainted angels are bearers of light.

      At the Nativity of Christ, angels filled the nighttime sky with light, drawing the attention of shepherds.

      At the Resurrection of Christ, angels filled the tomb with light that terrified the nearby Roman sentries.

      When God created the universe and said, “Let there be light,” it was angels who carried out God’s command.

      Heaven itself is a kingdom of light, where God dwells as the Spirit of Love in pure unapproachable light.

      Lucifer, like all other angels, was created innocent and in grace. But, when tested, he refused the additional graces needed to attain beatitude (perfection.)

      There is nothing “dictatorial” about a God Who (like a teacher) wishes to test His creatures and draw them into a higher realm of wisdom, grace and understanding.

    • Pix

      “God doesn’t resemble their straw man.”

      Classic example of the pot calling the kettle black, as if the Biblical deity is not also an unsubstantiated straw man. But at least you can point to Lucifer in the sky, Lucifer having a single specific meaning, the bright morning star, the planet Venus on the dawn horizon. For which I might add, the Bible book Revelation 22.16 claims “… I am the root and offspring of David, and the bright morning star” – Jesus.

      Lucifer = Jesus. QED


      • awakenow

        Easy to see what your about and where you will probably spend eternity .

        • Pix

          Thanks for proving you don’t believe your own BS. You are role playing your deity so you can do the judging instead. If you actually believed, you would not dare threaten anyone.

          Obviously you can’t see anything, you are assuming if someone is not agreeing with you, they must be the opposite and a Devil worshipper. In fact I’m an atheist, not a theist, so no, I do not worship or follow ‘any’ fictional characters.

      • Pix

        So come on then you folks who have thumbed me down, where is it a wrong conclusion that Lucifer is not Jesus?
        Lucifer (/ˈlʲuːsɪfər/ lew-sif-ər) is the King James Version rendering of the Hebrew word הֵילֵל in Isaiah 14:12. This word, transliterated hêlêl[1] or heylel,[2] occurs only once in the Hebrew Bible[1] and according to the KJV based Strong’s Concordance means “shining one, morning star”.[2] The word Lucifer is taken from the Latin Vulgate,[3] which translates הֵילֵל as lucifer,[Isa 14:12][4][5] meaning “the morning star, the planet Venus”, or, as an adjective, “light-bringing”.[6] The Septuagint renders הֵילֵל in Greek as ἑωσφόρος[7][8][9][10][11] (heōsphoros),[12][13][14] a name, literally “bringer of dawn”, for the morning star.[15]

        “Revelation 22: New King James Version (NKJV)
        16 “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.”

    • freedom007

      It is so unfair to try to pull all those who love independent thinking and acting into the Satanic army…
      but it is stupid as hell too.
      For, every really independent thinker will see that there cannot be any clear thinking without a central point that goes beyond ones own mortal and half-knowing existence.
      Or, as some first-class philosopher said: “Give me one solid point outside this world, and I will be able to lift this world out of its foundations.”
      GOD is this central point.
      A human mind should be somewhat turned toward Infinity to deal best with the finite world, as it seems.

      Half-baked science and half-knowledge lead to disbelief and disappointment and futility.
      Those who run for the good-sounding words of this liar who wants to make believe that the devil is the Lord of Independence, and not the Lord of Disorder and Lies – will get plenty of all three of them. their lives will be gray, and not happily multicoloured as some may be deluded to believe. BEWARE.

      But to deal rightly with your futility, with your failures, can lead you to the fullness of truth – as the Gospel calls what the Holy spirit may give the believer – and truth invariably leads Man back to God, and to love and respect.

      Behold Jesus crowned with thorns and wearing rags as a king´s coat! This is human failure. God took His mansion within even this depth of humiliation and turned it into a victory. Devictus vincit, by being the Defeated One He won, says an old praise of Jesus; this is for those who want to make it to some glimpse of truth. Pray and work and it will reach you.

      Maybe you will doubt the existence of God sometimes or even be deluded to think yourself an agnostic or Atheist, or bad experiences as in wartime or disease may have bad consequences for your mind, who knows…

      but if you keep the golden Rule, and the rule of Honesty – no cheating and lying for money or fame –
      and keep doing useful work with the intention to be useful for the world,
      at least a glimpse of truth i.e. Holy Spirit won´t fail you,
      within this mortal life, not only in Heaven, this is for sure.

      something more,
      for the courageous ones who dare the devil:
      Study all religions and even the minds of those who think themselves nonbelievers, “check out all things and keep the best” as St Paul says, but dont listen too much to any dogma, guru, or book, not even in that of your own church community, not even in the Pope – trust only in Jesus and the Golden Rule.
      Today there is a lot of religious plagiatory activity, jealousy and moneymaking going on, exploiting many unsure Christians. Turn it the other way round and do some espionage in Gog and Magog for Christianity.
      “go stealing” from the “Heathen” by your personal trial-and-error knowledge and symbolism that you can use …
      and use it for your further way … not back to Jesus, you didnt ever leave him, you only left your church or became unsure of the dogma you read in your repective catechism … but on with Jesus!
      I DO SO ;-) ))

      one day some of those who did so will build up the REAL religion of the future…
      no pope (not even the relatively good Francis) can replace this process by cyclicals and laws from his throne…

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