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The True Age Of The Sphinx And Did The Earth's Axis Tilt Violently in 2345 BC

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You’ve probably heard of “the Egyptian Sphinx mystery”? 


Jonathan Gray shares some fascinating secrets about its true age. 


So how old is the Sphinx – really?


On the plateau of Giza west of Cairo, Egypt, sits the Great Sphinx of Giza, a statue 240 feet long, with a lion’s body and a human head wearing the headdress of the Pharaohs.



It is surrounded by desert sand. But there’s evidence of erosion.Erosion by wind-borne sand? No. By water! says Gray. 


The edges of the rock are rounded. And there are apparently deep fissures in the rock.The impressions on the stones are not horizontal, as would be caused by sand and wind (like the pyramids in the area); instead, they are vertical.This suggests that the Sphinx has been subjected to heavy rainfall.


The erosion is stronger on the upper parts of the Sphinx and its enclosure walls than around the base.


This erosion of these “upper” surfaces exhibits a pattern of weathering commonly associated with exposure to rainwater run-off.


There is a rolling and undulating vertical profile, with many vertical and sloping channels where joints in the bedrock have been opened up.

French scholar R. A. Schwaller, independent Egyptologist John West, and geologist Robert Schoch examined it. Schoch contrasted this situation at the Sphinx with the state of weathering seen at other rock-cut features of the Giza Plateau.


For example, in various Old Kingdom tombs, erosion by windblown sand has picked out areas of poorer quality rock, but has left the anciently cut facades and doorways not markedly damaged. But the highly rounded weathering on the Sphinx and its enclosure indicates the action of rainwater over a long period.




You ask, could the erosion have been caused by the Nile flooding and washing around the Sphinx at some remote time? The answer is that to erode the monument up to its neck would have required floods of twenty meters or more over the Nile Valley. No, if this was erosion by water, then it had to be rainwater.




Do you know, there is good evidence that Egypt experienced very heavy rainfall in the earliest period.

According to popular view, the transition from ice age to the present desert environment took place between 10,000 and 3000 BC.


Then rainfall tapered off to its current level of about 20 cm per year by about 2200 BC.




So if we must go back 9,000 years for sufficient precipitation to cause this pattern of rainfall erosion on limestone, thought West and Schoch, then the Sphinx must have been constructed either during or before this transition – say, 7000 BC. 


That meant, it could be twice as old as “officially” claimed.


OR 10,500 BC?


Enter Robert Bauval and Graham Hancock. These two writers believe that the Sphinx was built not around 2500 BC… not in 7000 BC… but in 10,500 B.C.

According to their theory, the stars of the Belt of Orion and Leo the Lion, as arranged in the sky, almost match the positions of the pyramids of Giza. And they believe that the time when the pyramids were in perfect alignment with the Belt of Orion was when it was at its lowest point, in 10,450 B.C.


They believe the Sphinx was probably built during this time.


Of course, however attractive this may sound, it is a theory not proven. Gray says there is no stable background of fact to support 10,500 B.C.


Gray says, “As much as we might wish it to be, attempts to establish vast ages for civilizations on the basis of astronomical data, must fail – for the simple reason that the earth was violently tipped off its axis in 2345 BC.”
Australian astronomer G.F. Dodwell has analyzed the observational records com-piled for the many gnomons erected all over the civilized world during the past 4,000 years. Gnomons are vertical markers that cast shadows from which the local latitudes can be computed. (All one needs are the measurements of the shadow lengths on the longest and shortest days of the year.)
The earth’s tilt or obliquity-of-the-ecliptic may also be calculated from gnomon data — and therein lies the anomaly. The tilt of the earth’s axis is supposed to vary cyclically between 22 and 24.5° over a period of some 40,000 years due to the pulls of the moon, the sun, and the planets on the earth’s equatorial bulge…
Credit: Bowden, M.; “The Recent Change in the Tilt of the Earth’s Axis,”


Tilt angles computed from ancient gnomon observations deviate markedly from the theoretical curve. The alignment of the ancient Egyptian temple at Karnak and other oriented sites extend the deviation toward the date 2345 B.C. Either the ancient observations were systematically in error all over the world or the earth’s tilt angle changed in historical times.



According to The Paradise Post, Dodwell’s conclusion means that the Earth’s axis had once been almost upright, but it had suddenly changed to a 26½ degrees tilt, from which it had been wobbling back to its present mean tilt of 23½ degrees. Dodwell’s research was confirmed by Dr. Rhodes W. Fairbridge of Columbia University, in Science Magazine, May 15, 1970.



Dodwell concluded that something ‘struck’ the earth at that time. He realised that this would have resulted in massive, worldwide flooding and catastrophic geological effects.  The date of this event, from his curve of observations, is 2345 BC – about 4,355 years ago. There is a clear pattern of recovery since 2345 BC that has not been disrupted. (”



According to Barry Setterfield,  Dodwell in The Obliquity Of The Ecliptic assumed  that the original axis tilt of the earth, before 2345 B.C., was nearly upright.  For that reason, he supposed a very strong impact was necessary to jolt the earth from that position to its current 23.5 degree tilt.  This is why a number of astronomers have rejected Dodwell’s work in this area.  However, if the axis tilt was greater than its current axis tilt before 2345 B.C., then an impact of much less force would have been required to restore the earth to a slightly more upright position.  The evidence for this greater axis tilt may be seen in the evidence of the ice age which covered most of Europe prior to 2345 B.C.



“The locations of the stars as seen from every fixed point on earth were radically altered.So you cannot count back using earth’s present stability as a reference point. To claim that you can is wishful thinking,” asserts Gray.



A remarkable confirmation of the obliquity in the year 2045 B.C. is given by the oriented solar Temple of Amen Ra at Karnak, Egypt, the largest temple that has ever been built. This is described in Chapter 8 of The Obliquity Of The Ecliptic. Hieroglyphic inscriptions, engraved in granite, show that the ancient Egyptians took great pains to orient their solar temples.  The rays of the rising or setting sun, on certain important dates, then shone straight down the long central avenue, or temple axis, into the darkened sanctuary and illuminated the image of the sun-god within it.


A panorama of a frieze in the Precinct of Amun Re

In the great Solar Temple at Karnak, this occurred at sunset on the day of the summer solstice.  It will be shown that in 2045 B.C., the foundation date of the Temple, the sun’s solstitial declination, or maximum distance from the celestial equator, was 25 degrees, 9 minutes, 55 seconds.  This value is in exact agreement with the prolongation of the curve of the ancient observations, and exceeds Newcomb’s value for that date by 1 degree 14 minutes.  Further confirmation, at other points on the curve, is given by the famous solar monuments at Stonehenge, England, and Tiahuanaco, Peru.



Photograph of the Karnak, temple complex taken in 1914

Credit:  Cornell University Library





The 10,500 BC and 7000 BC theories are rejected by other scientists for several reasons:1. There is no evidence of an Egyptian civilization so old.


2. Architectural evidence dates the Sphinx to around the same time as the nearby Pyramid of Khafra. And that pyramid may now be dated to 2144 BC. (See Gray’s recent book The Corpse Came Back, p.251)


(a) Khafra had four twenty-six foot long sphinxes constructed. Two were in front of each entrance to his Valley Temple. A drainage channel from the causeway to Khafra’s pyramid empties into the Sphinx enclosure, which presumably would have desecrated the enclosure if it had already existed.


(b) The center court of the Sphinx Temple is identical to the center court in Khafra’s Mortuary Temple adjacent to his pyramid.


(c) The core blocks of the Sphinx Temple match some of the strata of bedrock in the Sphinx enclosure and show that the Temple was built as the enclosure was being excavated. It may be inferred that if other Khafra structures and the Sphinx Temple dated to the same time, then the excavation of the Sphinx itself dated to that time as well.


3. The Sphinx, a rapidly weathering structure, appears older than it is.


4. Subsurface water drainage (periodic wetting of the limestone by water-saturated sand) or Nile flooding could have produced the pattern of erosion. The water in the surrounding sand would have been drawn up to elevations higher than flood levels due to capillary action. (The Sphinx and Valley temples have been covered by sand for most of the time of their existence.) 


5. There are thought to be two reasons why the erosion of the higher elevated Giza Pyramids is different from the erosion of the less lower altitude Sphinx: (a) The Nile floods were partly the source of the flood water filling the Sphinx enclosure (which is lower than the pyramids).


(b) If the Sphinx erosion was caused by rainfall 7000 years ago and if the other structures in the Giza 
Plateau (built 4000 years ago) show normal wind based erosion, why didn’t the weathering by wind destroy the older water-based weathering? (You must admit, that’s good logic!)


6. The Sphinx is believed to resemble Khafre, the pharaoh who built one of the nearby pyramids of Giza. He lived not too long before 2000 BC.It has also been suggested that weathering on the Sphinx depends more on the properties of the rock itself. The middle layer of the Sphinx shows the most erosion because it is made of more porous limestone.The pores of the rock being larger, they invite a process called “salt crystallization”.


This occurs when morning moisture condenses on and in the rock, dissolving the natural salt present in the rock. During the day, this moisture evaporates. The salt crystallizes then presses against the pore walls. This process generally weakens the rock and enlarges pre-existing fissures.




The climate of Egypt right up to 2000 BC was rain…rain…rain. 


Plant and animal species depicted in the early tomb paintings show that the weather of Egypt was then wetter than it is now.


Yes, it did rain in the Old Kingdom, more than today.Gray now tosses a cat among the pigeons. There is startling new evidence that Egypt did not spring up until afer the Great Flood of 2345 BC.


That’s right! There’s been a massive dating mistake! (But that’s for another time.) And the transition from ice age to the present desert environment did not take place between 10,000 and 3000 BC, but as recently as 2250 to 2000 BC.



And around 2200 BC Menes (Mizraim) and his followers arrived, embanked the Nile and established the Egyptian civilization.That’s when the pyramids and the Sphinx were built! Some time ago Gray sent out an email that shocked many. Because, he stated (among other things) that scientists reject most carbon dating results.
In other words, we’ve been had. So you can forget just about all you’ve been told in school and in the media about dating ancient remains.

But we also announced the special 7-ebook set at a big reduction. And within minutes, the requests started pouring in. (they’re an instant download).

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    • Anonymous

      Read Velikovsky books! Written in the 40′s & 50′s
      BTW they are still anathema to the “respected” scientists/academics! :wink: :wink:

      • Mellissa

        Velikovsky had some amazing ideas, I agree. Not all will be fact but much of it should be looked at with an open mind. It would be an amazing thing if he had all the data we do now and then able to expand on his ideas.

    • PaulTarsuss

      Here are some interesting resources on the subject:'s_ark.htm

      And regarding our own earth wobble and new orbit….

      Google – monster waves cruise

      Whatever, Whomever, you choose to believe, dear readers,

      I bid you Blessings in Yeshua, Jesus Christ. And may He find you working what is good toward all, upon His return.

      There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.” Luke 21:25-28

      Read Isaiah 24:20……as it is nearing fulfillment.

      Blessings in Yeshua, Jesus Christ

      • Augendieallessehen

        *cringe* Here we go again… Even the word “bible” contains a mixed-up “lie”.

        • PaulTarsuss

          For those wandering a crooked path, it is not hard to massage any language into a dyslexic nightmare.

          “He catches the wise in their own craftiness, and the schemes of the wily are brought to a quick end”

          If the light that is in you is darkness, how great that is that darkness.



      From Nostradamus … excerpt out of
      1 40
      1 40 1 The false trumpet [edict] concealing madness
      (Removing over 300 years from the calendar
      1 40 2 Will cause Byzantium [Turkey] to change its laws:
      1 40 3 One whose assignment requires history of Egypt
      1 40 4 Decree altering money and legislation.
      (Legislation regarding the calendar)
      ÖTTÖ EDICTS BORNE [carried out]
      [yes/no binary computer dates]
      7 36
      God, the heavens, the entire divine word in the waves,
      (voice activation – means a time gate event)
      Carried by seven red-bald heads [monks] to Byzantium:
      Anointed of Trebisconde opposing the three hundred
      (years removed)
      Will make two laws, with horror, then trust.
      (two laws: trade and legislation – of the calendar)
      Enki says in Tablet 10 (Z Sitchin):
      ”Now this is the account of the new Place of the Celestial Chariots,
      ”In the station [zodiac house] of the Constellation of the Lion
      ”Let us beside the twin peaks a monument create,
      ”the Age of the Lion let it announce”
      This was in the Age of Leo, same date as Atlantis sinking,
      same date the Giza pyramids were built…
      a promise was made by the Anakim to never allow a flood like this again
      (because it destroyed their own works as well).
      This was all caused by Nibiru passing too close.
      This passing sent the atmosphere off Mars and its ocean too(says Enki).
      The Age of Leo was stated as the date in ENKI’S LOST TABLET 10,
      and it is the reason for the Sphinx .
      This was originally built with the head of THOTH (says Enki) –
      but later it became the face of HatShepSut – which it is now.
      (The rebuilding, says Hancock, thinking the original head was a lion,
      but it represents the Age of Virgo in the Denderah zodiac).
      Nostradamus is the one who says it is the “crowned queen” Hatshepsut.
      The Age of Leo is – circa 9,160 BC to – circa 11,323 = LEO.
      This fits in perfectly for events two shars later :- 1620 – 1630 BC
      (Current Computer date) when Thera was set off by Nibiru, which sent
      the Hyksos packing to go to Egypt for grazing.
      The astronomical date inside an “air vent” of the the great pyramid happens
      to be 9,200BC (the Age of Leo – RISING) :- just as Robert Schoch said.
      James A Marusek ‘A Chronological Listing of Early Weather Events
      S. Guth ‘Climate Change, Missing Truth,
      H. Illig ‘Phantom Time Hypothesis,
      U. Niemitz – ‘The Middle Ages Never Happened‎
      Did the Early Middle Ages Really Exist? – The Computer Laboratory
      File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat – Quick View
      by HU Niemitz – Cited by 1 – Related articles
      ‘Did the Early Middle Ages Really Exist? Dr. Hans-Ulrich Niemitz.
      Klopstockstr. 18, D-10557 Berlin, Germany [email protected].
      Robert Ohotto (The “Establishment” )
      ‘Age of Leo 11000 B.C. – 8000 B.C.
      (Ohotto is stating that the Age of Leo commences 8,000BC,
      The Age of Pisces (– 2400 A.D.)
      The Age of Aquarius (2400 A.D. – 4600 A.D.)
      Jungian Synchronicity in Astrological Ages.
      Alice O. Howell. 1990. Theosophical Publishing House. p.146
      Gary Meisner‎
      letters at
      Robert DeBovis
      Michel R. Legrand and Robert J. Delmas
      of Laboratoire de Glaciologie et Geophysique de l’Environment
      published an article
      “Soluble Impurities in Four Antarctic Ice Cores Over the Last 30,000 Years”
      in Annals of Glaciology (10, 1988, pp 116-120).
      They graphed the Oxygen 18 variations and the ionic components
      Na = NH (sub4) and Ca (sup 2) and H and Cl and NO (sub 3) and SO (sub 4).
      The time scale for each ionic component level as well as the O (sup 18) levels stretches back 30,000 years.
      (This date of ca 30,000 years happens to be the dating of the Bosnian pyramids h.c.p)
      The graph shows correlations to spikes at …
      (all dates here are give or take up to 20 years): (bracket comments from h.c.p)
      1,924 BC ( Santorini/Thera/Moses (1620 BC Current Computers add 3,600 equals now)
      3,400 BC, (= 3,123CC Otzi the ice man, Sodom & Gomorrah Aten Asteroid event
      ………………(Crater Lake, New Mayan Age & allow recovery period for Hancock’s 3114BC date
      3,400 BC ( is not a shar of Nibiru event
      5,200 BC, ( = 5,524 ….. Hibiru (Hebrew) bible
      8,800 BC, ( add 324 = 9,100BC Greatest Flood Age of Leo rising, The Sphinx & Giza plateau
      ………………..(matches the astronomical date inside the great pyramid
      …………………(Gobekli Tepi (duly dated) filled in with mud from the Great Flood
      12,400 BC, (add 324 = 12,724BC Younger Dryas, Atlantis age which ended with the Great Flood
      c. 16,000 BC,
      c. 19,600 BC.
      All of these were times of great geologic stress.
      Every 3600 years
      International Glaciological Society (IGS) » Annals of Glaciology, Volume 10
      5-9Atmospheric lead in Antarctic ice during the last climatic cycle Claude F. Boutron, Clair C. Patterson,
      Claude Lorius, V.N. Petrov and N.I. Barkov

      • Tribe of DAN

        Who Otto?

      • Dustdevil

        Good grief, there was no 324 years added by anyone. Give it a rest, already.

        You have history from 800 AD (unless you deny that Pope Leo III crowned Charlemagne in Rome that year)
        You have history from 850 AD (unless you deny that Emperor Montoku succeeded Emperor Nimmyo as Emperor of Japan), and the first recorded Viking attack of the Welsh Coast

        You have history from 900 AD (unless you are denying that Pope Benedict the IV was the 117th Pope)

        You have history from 950 AD (unless you deny that the Viking, Eric the Red, was born then – as well as Japanese Emperor Reizei)

        See, we have this disclosure every single time you go trying to make those centuries conveniently disappear out of the calendar – simply to justify some strange end-times theological apocalypse you otherwise can’t get to.

        Face it – you have so much world history, through a hundred different cultures, that you can’t refute, that there is no way that they all conspired against you to make you look wrong – you just ARE wrong. (I promise you, the Vikings did not forge Eric the Red’s birth certificate, just to undo you, Hiddentextor.

    • Real American Hero

      A very well WRITTEN article…..this is journalism. It harbors history, facts, ( not what ifs) and there’s no pasting of lame you tube videos.

      I always felt history is not being told as it truly is…….

    • Neo

      re: 5 b) If the Sphinx erosion was caused by rainfall 7000 years ago and if the other structures in the Giza Plateau (built 4000 years ago) show normal wind based erosion, why didn’t the weathering by wind destroy the older water-based weathering?

      Probably because up until the 20th century the sphinx was buried up to its neck in sand! And the head of the sphinx is of more recent construction than the body, having been carved from the original head. That’s why it is so small. The civilization at Giza was re-established on the ruins of an earlier pre-flood civilization. So the great pyramid and the sphinx are of a much earlier age.

    • Theodorizer

      If the pharaohs were such great persons, then why were their monuments discarded by their own people and forgotten under the sands of time. The only ones who have interest in cherishing their traditions are us, the poor preservers. Those people had their own new world order schemes and they also practised it all the time, we are drinking the same piss from the old spring. No one is really interested in pharaohs, unless the intention is to seriously kiss their mummy ass.

    • Pix

      A climatologist would claim rain was the corrosive agent, but flowing and wind blown sand is even more corrosive to soft limestone. Nobody will ever know how old the sphinx is, because stone can’t be radio carbon dated seeing as stone contains no carbon, and even if it did you would get the age of the stone, not when it was carved.

      Having said that… During the normal climate, currently an Ice age, the weather in the middle east is much wetter. Climate wise we are in a brief c 20’000 year interglacial period, within a so far 50 million year long ice age. Interglacial periods occur roughly every 100’000 years apart. The oldest modern human remains are c100’000 years old, but that doesn’t mean we were not around before that, just that we haven’t found evidence yet.

      It’s looking like the traditional word of mouth native American myths are correct, this is the 4th time civilisation has occured. It is just as doomed to destruction if we don’t pay attention to Earth’s climate swings.

    • somethgblue

      This is all old news, anyone with half a brain has already researched this information, so nothing new here. Obviously Egyptologists are clinging to their theories to keep the sheeple buying their lies by claiming the Pharaohs were the builders of these massive structures, they were not.

      These structures were designed an built by the survivors of Atlantis as psychic storage facilities for future generations. They used psychic and sound levitation to alter the molecular structure of the rock, quarry it, transport it and move them into position. They maybe even older than you suggest, dating back from 12,000 to 30,000 years ago.

      When mankind reaches a certain spiritual level of moral, ethical and intellectual sophistication then the Pyramids will reveal their true purpose but until then they will remain a mystery.

      • guibus

        I agree with you. Actually the pyramid of the sun in Visoko, Bosnia has been measured to be as old as 29200 years +- 400 years, thanks to wood peaces found inside the pyramid.

    • David Montaigne

      There is a lot of evidence for pole shifts, but the last major one probably was around 10,500 B.C. They seem to occur in regular periodic cycles. More interesting to me, the NEXT one seems to have been described in prophecies and could be due in December 2019.

    • balancedones

      Time is not linear . Our Sun is in its own orbit towing us, one of Her little ducklings through the stone age back to the modern age stone age modern age and our Sun does not remain at the exact same pace as it shoots through space. When the Sun gets closer and closer to Her binary twin Tyche Red Dragon Red Kachina etc, the Sun oncreases its pace effectlvely “quickening time as we know it” the Egyptians coined the phrase describing these times as “the quickening” because our movement through space is actually quickening.our solar system is nothing more than a giant binary motor or dynamo converting mass to energy for The Goddess And Lucifer alpha Omega

    • Anonymous

      The Earth tilted in 2345 BC because of a near miss by Nibiru. This date was given in ‘The Dragon’s Tail’, Austin & Crowley, IllumiNet, 2000, following Dodwell, but calculated from a 892 year orbit of Nibiru. The next perihelion will be in 2115 AD. It is expected that this will be the true apocalypse or ragnarok. This book was republished as ‘Draco: the tenth Planet’ by Black Rabbit Press of Findon, UK. 892 years is approximately one quarter of the orbit previously calculated to be 3600 years, or one ‘sar’ in Babylonian arithmetic. Best wishes for 2014. Tony Austin [email protected]

    • Anonymous

      time will tell

    • Anonymous

      Anyone who believes that a pharaoh built the great pyramids lost me there. Vyse was responsible for the only hieroglyphs there. Those were written by him, and quite poorly I might add. :roll:

    • G̱iihlgiigaa

      About 78,000 years ago, there was a catastrophic event when the supervolcano Toba blew it’s top. That may have changed or tilted the earth to its present 23.5 tilt. The old north pole was just north of present New Zealand and the south pole between present africa and south america. The sphinx would be located in a tropical forest then before the tilt to its present day. Look how much the one of the latest earthquakes near japan etc are changing the rotation speed and tilt abit.

    • zouave10zin

      Just wanted to let you know: you should watch the documentary on mystery of sphinx if you haven’t.

    • Alex Yoe James

      7600 BC-7300 BC. WAS BIG FLOODS in all Europe,north Africa and Middle East.100 years of rain.Europe was big lake and evidence is everywhere geological,archaeological.After this floods disappeared all rivers and forest in Sahara and Middle East,European lakes need next 4000 year to comleately disappeared.In the same time disappeard two big rivers in India.How to explain fact that rivers in Europa in same time like Sahara floods not disappeared? Africa geology continent is different like Europe and Africa continent remove north to Europe,this was big earthquake and many new volcano on Canaria island and Meditteranean area.Sicily,Etna,Vezuv.Iceland and south Africa .And this extremly change climatic position for next 300 year.Rain and floods.

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