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Flat Earth vs Globe Earth Theory Blown Wide Open

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There’s a lot of talk lately by those who say that we live on a Flat Earth and not on a Globe Earth.  Can we prove this?   When you look up Origins of Earth you will find many different explanations.  The most common one is this:  The most widely held scientific theory is the Big Bang Theory.  According to this theory, the universe originated in an enormous explosion.  Earth, along with the other planets, is believed to have been born 4.5 billion years ago as a solidified cloud of dust and gases left over from the creation of the Sun.    The problem with this “theory” is that it has been taught as fact, not as theory.  If it was taught as theory, then other theories should be taught along with it because theories remain theories until they are proven.  And no one has yet been able to prove the Big Bang Theory.  So we must always remember that it is just that, a theory, a guess, pure speculation.  For this reason it would be wrong to assume that this account is the absolute truth and all other accounts are wrong.  

What is science.  Science is the study of the natural world based on facts learned through experiments and observation.  Science tells us that they believe that the Big Bang happened.   Did they observe this, of course not.   Did they do experiments to determine this?   Of course not.  So how did they come up with it?   It was a guess.  No one can say that this is a proven fact, yet we are taught that it is.   As a result, many people believe that the earth is a globe and spins at 1,000 mph and that it orbits the sun at 67,000 mph and that our earth hangs somewhere in space, and that the universe is trillions of light years across and all these other “facts” that have never been proven.  This is very important to understand:   This Has Never Been Proven.  

So why do we believe it?   Because ever since we first went to school there was a globe in our classroom, and our teachers told us that this is what our earth looks like.   They also taught us all the other “theories” about the universe.  Because this is all that we were taught, we believed it.   Then we saw those globe pictures everywhere which reinforced out belief to the point where most people now are totally convinced that this is absolutely true.  Even though it is still a “theory” because it has Never Been Proven.  Good propaganda I would say.  Or better yet, let’s call it for what it is:  Brainwashing.   If you do a search on the Big Bang Theory, you will find conflicting reports.  Some say it did happen, and others say no, it did not happen.  So why is it being taught as fact?

So if we are to consider other “theories” then let’s also consider this one.   The first sentence of the Bible states:  In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.  We can’t prove this one either, yet it is just as valid as the Big Bang Theory.  So let’s consider it along with the Big Bang and then decide.  This should have been done in the first place because by now, most of us already are convinced that the Big Bang is the absolute truth.   But if you can just put that aside for a few minutes and open your mind to other possibilities, understanding that nothing has been proven, you may just learn something that you never considered before. And it will help you make a more informed decision.  Is that fair?

The Bible’s account of creation is totally opposite of the Big Bang.  God said that he is the one that created the heavens and the earth.  A detailed account is given regarding this creation, but basically, he created a firmament to separate water from water.  This firmament is a dome that covers our earth which we call sky.  The earth is a flat plane with mountains, valleys, rivers, and lakes, and is spread out on the water.  It is set upon pillars that hold it in place.  Within the dome, God created a greater light, the sun, and a lesser light, the moon, and the stars, to give light to the day and the night.    The sun and moon travel in a circuit around the surface of the flat earth giving us day, night, and seasons.  

So there you have it, two “theories” which are each just as valid giving us two different accounts of how the earth came to be.  It’s up to each of us to decide which one we want to believe:   God’s version or man’s version.  Who is right?   Who do you believe?  

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    • Mark

      Globe Earth is not a theory, it’s fact. Flat Earth is neither a theory, is pure stupidity. :cool:

      • Buffalo

        Really??

        Prove it to me…..

        • Mark

          If you do not have ability to discern for yourself, I will not waste my time to argue the obvious with you … sorry dude. :cool:

          • Mayhem

            Vanity!

            • Mark

              Not vanity man, just tired. I am a pilot with over 55,000 flight hours, since I went round the world hundreds of times, I can not stand hearing so much idiocy ever and ever repeating itself.

            • Mayhem

              Not too tired to regale us with your opinion but too tired to back yourself with evidence. Vanity!

              At cruising altitude over the Simpson desert, Australia, can you even see the ocean? No. But yet you say you can see curvature?

              I’m not a flat-earther, Mark, rather i’m a critical thinker and all i’m saying is that your opinion doesn’t count for squat.

            • Mark

              Flat Earth = Flat brain… I will not lose my time with a “scientist” of your caliber… :cool:

            • Mayhem

              Baseless insult? Pfft!

      • Vic

        The way I see it is if you fly your plane at a constant 33,000 feet and the earth is a globe, then you would
        have to be careful not to fly out in to space.
        Perhaps you have to keep the nose of the plane down every few miles so you can stick to the curvature of the earth. The only time I ever felt the nose of the plane going down was when landing.

        • Nanar

          no Vic, you see, it doesn’t work like this.
          To “free” yourself from earth’s space-time curvature (aka gravity), you need to reach, what is called, the escape velocity.

          A plane does not have the power to reach such a speed. So the plane follows the curvature of the earth. The plane follows a geodesic straight line.

          • Spytre Man

            19,031 miles per hour is Mach 25, or how fast the new planes supposedly travel. There is about 8 inches per mile of declination, or 12,687 feet per hour, due to the supposed curvature of the Earth. Yet, nothing is said of the descent, but only the ability to go fast is advertised because that is all that is required. Why is no rapid descent required? Because the shape of the Earth is not what you have been taught in school.

            • Nanar

              30 000 kilometers per hour it’s orbiting speed. that’s like 1800km/h more than the ISS.

              You cannot reach that speed in the atmosphere (even at high altitude), with the friction, even at high altitude, you’ll become a shooting star.

              when testing the X series planes (X5 later derived into the blackbird), they do more of a parabolic path than a straight path.

              As for the piloting a black bird, it could only reach it’s maximum velocity at high altitude (less friction) and pilots had to account for earth’s curvature and readjust their altitude (only a little bit, most re-adjustment were due to other parameters). but even at mach 5 or 6, it’s not sufficient to escape the gravity pull of earth (earth’s escape velocity is about 40000km/h)

              so yeah, review your arguments.

            • DistantCousin

              How Do You Get Such Baloney Upvoted.
              The Aurora only does about 12,000 MPH,
              But it is outdated technology. The logic
              you use when talk about descent is
              idiocy. Nanarchiste doesn’t know the Tech.

              But Nobody is Perfect.
              Se La Vie
              RR :cool:

    • st

      Mark is funny

      • Mark

        Flat Earth announcers are funny… :cool:

        • Jango

          That’s a valid question Mark. As a pilot, did you allow for the curvature of the earth or not?

          • srsly1

            Explain to me why ships appear to be rising out of the sea at distance, rather than just “appearing” if the earth was flat?

            Explain lunar eclipses?

            Varying constellations the further you travel from the equator?

            Explain these

          • DistantCousin

            Hey Jango!
            Are You Still Alive And Kickin’ (And Lying)?
            At First I thought you finally Had a New Post.
            But I checked the Date – - – RERUN RERUN RERUN!
            Reinvent Yourself, as an Honest Christian!?? (Maybe)?
            (Taking the picture of Yeshua OFF! is a Good Start!)
            (Or Did You Get Fired By Your Alphabet Sponsors?)

            Have A Day!
            RR :eek:

          • DistantCousin

            Jango,
            The Gleason Flat Earth Map is the Standard Map
            Linked to by Flat Earthers.
            :arrow: It is listed in the Original Printing as an
            Azimuthal Equidistant Projection (North Polar)
            The Word Projection denotes that it is a flat Map
            with distances calculated FROM A SPHERE!!!
            Many Flat Earthers STILL Include the word PROJECTION!

            Please Explain Scientifically this Anomaly.

            :arrow: The Gleason Map Has An EQUATOR!
            An Equator should be understood as a Marking
            Halfway (Equidistant) between two Objects.
            In Flat Earth Theory (Fiction) There is the North Pole,
            And the Equator is Halfway between the North Pole – -
            AND WHAT???
            What is the WHAT??? Who Identified That WHAT!!??
            What is the Man’s Name. Where is His Scientific Data?
            Since The Flat Earth Equator is Round, and 10,000 KM
            from the North Pole, Does it Mean that the Supposed
            “WHAT” is Exactly Round, and Exactly 20,000 KM
            From The North POLE???
            Do You Have A YouTube Video With Photos and
            Explanation of how the distance to the “WHAT” was
            Measured?? Did They Use A Tape Measure??

            Could I see Photos of the Tape Measure?? Please??
            Could I See Photos of the “WHAT”??
            Sorry, I have an Enquiring Mind!

            Have a Day, Jango!
            RR :cool:

            • Nanar

              Give it to them ! yeah ! :razz:

            • DistantCousin

              Well Nanarchiste!!!
              I See You Are Alive And Kicking!!!
              :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

              R.
              I know, we’ll be in touch.

            • Nanar

              Yeah ! I’m sorry, zu viel arbeit und meine gesunt is nich so güt.
              Ich brauche nach Frankreich farhen.

            • Nanar

              So,
              lets deconstruct:

              1- planet birth : yeah actually this phenomena is being observed since like the last 20 years. when a star is born, the amount of matter around it creates a nursery called an accretion disk. in this disk the planets are born.

              2- Big bang : yes it is still a theory. However, there are pretty good evidences of this. The last experiments such as the mapping of the microwaves background predicted by the big bang model has been validated. And a bunch of others like the universal constant predicted by the big bang model is also validated on several occasion

              3- size of the universe : no, we don’t know how big it is. We just know the size based the visible universe. Universal expansion as been proven as per the redshift experiments. So we have no idea how big it is in reality and there are much debate on it’s shape.

              4- shape of the earth : it’s round. this is proven countless times. And no, it is not “hanging” in space. hanging means that there is a top and bottom. That doesn’t exist in space. It’s just about space-time curvature… And ho yes, gravitational shifts have just been proven…

              Over all, the current universal model is maybe not entirely proven (1 question answered, 10 new questions) but it is a lot more observed and proven than the genesis of the bible. As you say yourself, it not proven facts !

              Don’t ditch at physics because you can’t grasp most of its concepts

            • DistantCousin

              Nanarchiste,
              Sometimes being away from home has a negative effect.
              Sometimes too much “Billig Schnapps”. :twisted:
              Hope you get feeling better.

              Your comments about dismissing Physics is correct.

              They have created a Universe with strong similarities
              to the fantasy world created by little girls playing with
              “Barbies” and “My Little Ponies”.
              Whatever turns them on, but they should practice
              things like that in private. :lol:

              RR. :cool:

            • Nanar

              oups, I wanted to post the physics thingy on a global level.

              Barbies and little poneys, yes, except give them power, we will all end up on burning stakes for sorcery :!:

            • Mongoose

              It’s nice to see that you two can console each other.

            • Nanar

              don”t be jealous Mongoose, we love you too !

            • Anonymous

              When you examine the mileage all the way around the named Antarctic Circle, it cannot be a Polar view. Sixty thousand miles around this circle makes the “polar view” explanation sound ridiculous.

            • Nanar

              A quick search on internet tells me 32000 km of coast.
              That’s about 20 000 miles.

            • DistantCousin

              MONGOOSE,
              The way in which you use the word
              “Console” in my opinion would earn
              you a very grade in English in school.

              Or, Do Mongeese use the word
              differently than Humans.

              I titled it to Jango, but you can Post
              photos of the Tape Measure, and I
              will not be Offended.

              RR. :cool:
              !!!Vive La Révolution De La Sphère Tournante!!!

    • FadingShadow2

      AACK! You wrote that “So we must always remember that it is just that, a theory, a guess, pure speculation.” Wrong! “A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.” Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory It seems to me that you have confused a hypothesis with a theory here.

      You wrote “What is science. [a question requires a question mark, not a period, sorry, I teach math, but major grammatical errors undermine credibility with me instantly] Science is the study of the natural world based on facts learned through experiments and observation. Science tells us that they believe that the Big Bang happened. Did they observe this, of course not. Did they do experiments to determine this? Of course not.”

      I was raised with this type of unthinking ‘let’s gloss over and sweep away any tangible evidence with our generalizations’ so this statement leaped off the page at me as being incorrect and misleading. I am neither opposing nor defending this particular view, but I am calling the author out on lack of accuracy. On the contrary, scientists do indeed experiment, observe, and organize their observations into a cohesive theory that seems to best ‘fit’ their observations.

      Here are a couple of sources I found in less than 2 minutes of looking, which obviously the writer failed to do – it’s easier to generalize your views, after all! Consider these two articles;

      http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/17/tech/innovation/big-bang-gravitational-waves/

      http://www.astronomynotes.com/cosmolgy/s7.htm

      Moving on, Genesis was written by Moses (except the last few chapters). Moses was, as you know, raised and educated by the Egyptians. Hence I believe what he wrote in Genesis is describing the ancient Hebrew cosmology incorporating God as the Creator. If you will go to his link, and look at the picture while reading Genesis 1, I think you’ll easily see that in no way is Moses describing our current understanding of the universe. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/exploringourmatrix/2012/11/ancient-hebrew-cosmology.html If you do a Google search with the words ancient Hebrew cosmology, you will see a number of diagrams, I personally find the black and white basic diagrams a little more helpful. . .
      So you don’t really have two different versions of the universe, what you have is two different views based on the different levels of understanding – think about the difficulties with the ancient cosmological view when computing rocket orbitals around the earth, re-entering the atmosphere, etc.. you get the idea.

      • Mongoose

        You are correct. The big bang is not a theory it is a hypothesis. In order to be a scientific theory it would have to have some sort of experimentational evidence supporting it which it does not.

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