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Flat Earth: Juan O Savin Exposed - SG Anon The Real Deal

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Flat Earth Destroys the Nephilim Deep State completely. Once it becomes mainstream we’ll understand why they needed a globe model in order to install their evolution agenda to create the whole idea about our earth being an insignificant speckle of sand in the midst of billions of planets with life in them. As well as create their end times alien agenda for their end of the world second coming agenda that by the way coincides with their manipulation of the book of Revelation. As eloquent and articulate as Juan is, making a bogus claim about how flat earth came to be proves that he’s a Jesuit, Freemason Deep State operative. How good is the Deep State psyop smoke and mirrors operation? It’s Juan O Savin Good! He’s here to make sure that we don’t focus on Flat Earth. The most important story in human history.

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    • g77enn

      What more proof do you need that the flat earth theory was created by the CIA to sow dissension among the WHs?

      • KomorusanQ714

        Many Patriot truthers hold back from coming out for the Flat Earth because it will affect their revenue or their fan base. Well, the time has come to stand up. Nino Rodriguez, as an example, is in a bind because as a real truther he’s looked into flat earth but will not admitted because of Juan O Savin. All who reject the truth are either paid chills or just plain ignorant. Juan is just an opportunist, a very smart one, who’s cashing in from all different angles. Remember he said that Trump would be back April 1st three years ago? Yep, he sure knows how to bounce back from that embarrassment

      • Anonymous

        Not so. The earth has been flat since the dawn of time. Way before the CIA. No one can convince a baller. One needs to “see” it for themselves. But like the FEDEX arrow, once you “see” the flat earth you will never unsee it. Good luck…

        • bigscifilover

          See my other comments below. If you can explain the movement of the Southern Cross around the ice wall, please do.

      • HTLIII

        Yup. Sit on the beach, watch the ships sail over the edge and come back some time later. Same as the doctored interview where Astronaut Aldrin is deceptively editted when he really said that economic considerations and the need for more data on conditions in space before we can do joy rides to the moon.

    • thatdogwillbite

      Why would the CIA want to sow dissension among White Ho’s?

    • pohknee

      What is comical here is that this question (one way or the other) is that you can never discuss the globe theory as an independent inquiry. The subject will always be turned toward discouraging the flat earth concept and calling anyone discussing the flat earth concept at being crazy. So lets have a brave soul provide their case for a globe earth. No mention or reference allowed concerning a flat earth concept. OK round ball enthusiasts make your case for the round earth any mention or reference to flat earth disqualifies your presentation.

      • bigscifilover

        It is obvious the earth is a globe (as the Greeks realized 2300 years ago) when they sailed south of the equator and could’t use the north star to navigate any more so they used the southern cross which is always in the south. With a ice wall surrounding the perimeter, there is no way the southern cross can be south in every position along the ice wall 360 degrees at the same time. I have more comments below if you would like to read them.


      So, is 107 is fake fraud phony evil then… DJT GEN FLYNN, NINO, WARD, PARKS, McKay,JACO,christen,and all others are paid actor reading a script! So, who cares cuz blood is gonna flow through the streets of the entire world!!!!!! And at that point round earth white hate black hat gray hat pedophiles sec trafficking drug dealers preachers Bob, frank, Jody congress ALL and every religion leader are part of it too, blood will flow and after it starts nothing matters other then who took out who before they got smoked 🚨🇺🇸🖕☠️🖕🇺🇸🚨

      • Fake News = The False Prophet

        Stands a very good chance. I don’t know about you but in all the time of listening to these people I have still yet to hear a single thing coming out of their mouths of any worth whatsoever but the common denominator is ‘stand down’, everything is under control by good guys. Doesn’t look that way to me. Not at all.

        • bigscifilover

          Well I agree with you on this one. We are being betrayed by everyone who tells us they are the authority, but in reality they are as evil as it gets.

    • Will

      Flat Earth Is what ? .

      • Daughter of the Church

        “Flat Earth Is what ? ” It is a planet as opposed to a globet.

    • HawkBowler

      107 reacts like a paid shill on CNN.

      Interesting, this question also ruffles the feathers of Ben Fulford.

      Why is the controlled -alt market so defensive when it comes to this subject? Why do they immediately dismiss the theory without the need to explain why flat earth is wrong and NASA is right?

      107 doesn’t attempt to disprove flat earth with a logical argument. He simply points to DARPA, flat earth is another multi million dollar PSYOP. This is the only reason people believe in flat earth, according to Juan.

      Clearly wrong. In fact, the added information by 107 that DARPA was extensively tracking people who believe in the theory. Why bother? Better yet, why not let them run loose until the rug is pulled out from under them by easily proven scientific experiments? The problem there, of course, is that the flat earth deniers don’t have any experiments to use. And why is that if flat earth is such an uneducated laughable concept?

      • HawkBowler

        The reason for the cabal deception is easy – if the earth is round but flat with a dome, people will put even more faith in the bible than they already do.

        We are not an insignificant rock spinning very precisely at thousands of miles an hour through a chaotic uncontrolled universe. This is lie, and in the least, the flat earth tards have done more to dispel this myth than any other group.

        The spinning ball theory is laughable and and easily proven wrong. We were told in school that the distant stars, for example, are so far away that the light from these stars takes millions of years to appear in our nighttime sky. If that is true, and considering the rapidly spinning ball theory, why isn’t the night sky just a blur a light? Instead, we have a very precise sky that sailors can use to navigate by sea. We can navigate by the night time skyscape and we can even set our watches and calendars to predict what we will see in the sky on any date or hour.
        The educated judgement of the lower ones is that the heavenly bodies rotate around the earth like a finely tuned clock. Morever, if that weren’t the case we would have no concept of time and space at all.

        107 has given talk in the past about something like a firmament. That there’s at least a barrier preventing us from going to other planets. That is, of course, if you believe earth is a planet or something similar to what we see in the sky. But Juan also says we are able to get past this barrier. In fact, he says…

        • Anonymous

          your full of shit retard sock sucker hawkblower–end of story–your empty skull is full of moths and your a clown

          • Justin Case

            Just go to the beach. Look at the ocean. It is flat, as far as you can see in every direction. You should see the curve, based on the model given. You don’t. Google, “long exposure circular star field”. If you are on a globe, how would such pictures even be possible???

            • bigscifilover

              There is also a long exposure circular star rotation in the southern hemisphere. How is that possible on a flat earth since the stars should be traveling along the ice wall perimeter of the flat earth moving east to west at 15 degrees per hour and not rotating.

        • bigscifilover

          Why can’t the earth be a globe? Maybe it’s not spinning but fixed in place. You may want to read some of my comments below.

      • HawkBowler

        In fact, 107 says that we have the ability to breach the hard top and we’ve fired missiles into the moon, for example, and out of the moon spurted plooms of mercury.

        It’s weird, 107 acts like flat earthers are crazy when he believes the moon is a death star space ship. *At least one of the 107s eluded to this in one of his talks. Yes, there are multiple 107s as well as multiple Trumps and just about every other notable figure head and voice.

        Flat earth is a big deal in this info mind war we have. And why? If flat earth is proven correct, not only will huge weight be added to faith in the bible, also too, all the talk about ancient alien oppressors will be proven false. Our home is unlike anything we can see or navigate to. We truly are the center of the universe, and there are no other hominids outside our home that are like us. As it is above so it is below.

        • beLIEve

          HawkBowler comment……..”We truly are the center of the universe,…….”

          I AGREE 100%

          “Earth” is an ANAGRAM of …. H E A R T. :idea:

          I beLIEve this “Flat Earth” is the Beating HEART of the Universe…and…..IF , it is not

          SACRILEGIOUS to say so……Imho the “BRAIN” of this “Earth” is The Divine Designer;

          The Divine Creator. :smile:


          WHY are…….GLOBE Earth stands….now being SOLD as……”NOT for EDUCATIONAL

          purposes” :?: :?:

          Because……….”Earth” is NOT a SPINNING BALL. :idea:

    • Bankroller

      107 is correct about “Flat Earth” being nothing but a DARPA psyop to discredit the truth community. Flat Earthers can never explain things like magnetic north, the 4 seasons, the jet stream, phases of the moon, varying sunlight angle patterns from northern latitudes to southern latitudes, planets and star movement, etc. ad nauseum. The earth may be larger than the quoted 25K miles in circumference to explain the horizon “math”, but if the earth is truly flat, why can’t I see Mt. Everest with my telescope from Texas?

      • HawkBowler

        Why do U put the onus on flat earthers to prove?

        Explain why many tests of been conducted to find the curvature of the earth and yet no evidence exists?

        The flat earth deniers don’t do any work,
        we all know that.
        The flat earthers, on other hand, have take passion to experimentation.
        Thousands of miles a flat body have been studied, for example, over water or ice, and there is no bend in the earth found.

        Do U believe in math?… oh great flat earth deniers? A man can see a certain distance, and mathmatically a bend in the earth should occur in this man’s vision… why doesn’t the bend occur?

        And no, this not like the false test we were given in school… watch the boat head out to sea, watch it sink as it goes… that’s the bend of the earth. This is an optical illusion caused by light and the limitation of the human eye.
        We KNOW now that this universal teaching, along with a globe in every classroom was wrong. It’s time to admit it.

        • bigscifilover

          I have watched the videos of the boats and see and the cities that should not be visible at the distance because of the curvature. The reason they are able to see what they are showing is because they do not follow the science. The formula is miles squared x8 inches. The mistake they make is pointing their scope at the horizon instead of keeping it level to the horizontal plane as the formula states. They would need to use a level to keep the telescope level (like a surveyors scope) along the horizontal plane and stop pointing it down at the horizon. It is obvious the earth is a globe (as the Greeks realized 2300 years ago) when they sailed south of the equator ans could’t use the north star to navigate any more so the used the southern cross which is always in the south. On a flat earth, there is no way the southern cross can be south in every position along the ice wall 360 degrees at the same time.

          • HawkBowler

            Maybe you’re not aware of the expirements with lazers conducted over ice for thousands of miles… no curvature found. Period. U can obviously ask difficult scientific questions, but U should be able to answer this easy one. We should have experiments that we can do to prove the globe theory… none exist. And again, globe earth is just a theory, right?

            If I could get into a space ship and fly around the earth, maybe then we could believe.

            Why are all the astronauts free masons?

      • Fake News = The False Prophet

        The usual BS questions that all have answers just you are too useless to go and find them.

        • HawkBowler

          LOL.. lazy f^ck… find the answers to disprove me… shouldn’t take U long.

          • Fake News = The False Prophet

            My answer isn’t to you HawkBowler. These reply’s seem to sometimes come out all over the shop.

      • Daughter of the Church

        Bankroller: your comment is worth a reply, because your argument follows a logic as opposed to being the result of an insulting disheveled and red face twisted by emotions. Unfortunately all your talking points in your logic have been debunked by the Flat-Earthers who, for some are no less than genuine scientists. A renown astronomer, on record has stated that both heliocentrism and géocentrisme do not contradict the calculations, with the only differences that when géocentrists speak in thousands of miles, the heliocentrists speak in light years. It may be so in terms of distances but still the maths are correct. Flat-Earth logic as opposed to Globe-Earth logic is not an absurdity.
        The common sense of the lesser men also accept easily the concept of the Flat-Earth. Flat-Earth as opposed to Globe-Earth is therefore plausible to both side among reasonable men.
        As for the visual observation, with a powerful telescope, I have seen far away objects (such as car’s ray of light under the sun) circulating on roads along distant sea shores which I was never supposed to see. The earth is not a globe as told. My own eyes, as well as yours should see the same as many others do. Your particular case of not seeing Mt. Everest with your telescope from Texas does not disprove that the earth is flat, because, first, your telescope does not grow the image large enough to see even a high mountain peak at such a distance, and second, because the atmosphere blocks all view once past a certain distance. The air of the atmosphere is similar to water in the ocean, and how far can you see in a clean water ocean?

      • Yeah, I said it

        1. Flat is not like a pancake or a plate. There are peaks and valleys, add enough of them and there are many things you will not see at a distance because of the terrain.
        2. The sun rises in what we are told is the East and sets in what we are told is the West.
        The globe earth we are told rotates towards the sun rise.
        If One is traveling to the East on the terrain and if the earth is moving in the direction of travel; the traveler would probably not notice anything.
        If One is traveling to the East in the air and if the earth is moving in the direction of travel; the earth would be rotating away from the aircraft. Moving the land/airport away from the aircraft.
        If One is traveling to the West on the terrain and if the earth is rotating in the opposite direction of travel; the traveler would not notice anything.
        If One traveled by air to the West and the earth was rotating opposite the direction of travel, the earth would rotate the landing/airport closer to the aircraft, shortening the distance of the flight.

        A flight nonstop from Texas to Washington state (going West) by air is the same travel time as a flight going from Washington state to Texas (going East) by air.
        If the earth is actually rotating; the pilots are speeding up the plane to reach the airport when traveling East and slowing down the plane to reach the airport when traveling West to have the same travel times in both directions for a nonstop flight,
        The earth is not a spinning globe.

    • SnakeEyes40

      Flat Earth is a psyop.

      • Fake News = The False Prophet

        3 bitcoins, worth about $75,000 today. $180,000 at BTC’s all time high.

        I’d have thought that was worth you proving it, don’t you think. It’s a genuine offer from Dave Weiss.

        It’s odd that NONE of you even bother to try, isn’t it?

        • Anonymous

          Many have tried for the rewards, one even going back to 1931. To collect, they have to prove the spinning ball and when they fail, some become flat earthers.

        • bigscifilover

          Spewing your lies again. It has been proven by the Greeks over 2300 years ago that the earth is a globe. You can read my other postings in this comment string. The problem is you people deny the evidence, but don’t provide any un-manipulated facts to back your statements. What you and your buddy David Weiss should be doing is offering those bitcoins to anyone who can show how the Southern Cross works on a flat earth ice wall circling the perimeter while staying in the south at every southern direction at the same time.

          • Fake News = The False Prophet

            :lol: Do you think it has escaped me that your southern cross ‘line’ is a close copy and paste job often posted as a comment in similar vein on many discussions and comment sections? Which is where YOU got it from?

            • bigscifilover

              But still no explanation from you which is typical from people who mislead. This is the one question that flat earth people cannot explain and shows how flat earth does not work . If just one example can prove the earth is not flat, then all the examples to show it is flat are false.

      • Daughter of the Church

        “Flat Earth is a psyop” is precisely what Mister Juan O Savin is explaining. May be you fell victim of the psyop by repeating this ‘revelation’.
        No one wants to be fooled, but did you spend “just one day” at thinking of the possibility that the earth is not a globe as told since you were a toddler? Rob Skiba spend that “just one day”.

    • Olasaltas

      I thought Juanito was talking about himself as a paid dis info dude.

    • Canderson
      • clueless

        Wikipedia is not a reliable source of truth, its quite the opposite in fact! instead find the videos of US navy weapons specialist’s telling their radar systems with 40+ miles of range are line of sight systems, or the one with multiple airline pilots admitting earth is flat.

        Satan doesn’t want people to know the truth, because the truth leads to God, and if you don’t believe Satan or god are real, then Satan is winning, you just need to use your eyes, and you can see all his minions showing you the truth, what do you think this tranny thing is all about, the original chick with a dick was the Baphomet. And then the shows by the likes of that fat slug Sam Smith or that troglodite Madonna, or any one of the other ‘pop’ stars who’ve all sold their souls.

    • Tedx

      I have always considered Juan O Savin to be a Hopium pusher. Now he sounds legit.

    • marko

      1st of all the earth is not a spinning ball of water traveling 49 million miles per day, the earth will. never move says the Lord.
      that means the earth will never move and heliocentrism is a big lie.
      what else have they lied about?? the sun is not 93 million miles away and moon is not 236,000 miles away and river dont travel uphill hundreds of miles.
      folks we’ve been lied to and the lies are grand.. all to discredit God’s amazing creation. please wake up

      • bigscifilover

        Lets break down your comment. You say the earth is not a spinning ball. That may be so, but the earth is a globe proven by the Greeks (2300 years ago) when they sailed south of the equator and could’t use the north star to navigate any more so they used the southern cross which is always in the south. On a flat earth, there is no way the southern cross can be south in every position along the ice wall 360 degrees at the same time. Now is the earth spinning?. That is hard to prove so I have no way of proving that it does. So the statement that the earth will never move maybe true. but that does’t mean it has to be flat. As far as the distance to the sun and moon, that may be correct, but maybe we don’t revolve around the sun but couls be another globe revoling around us containing the sun, moon, and stars. That would explain how the southern cross is always in the south and is viewable from mant southern locations at the same time directly south. On a flat earth the southern cross would have to move 15 degrees to the west every hour in order to circle the ice wall, but per observation it doesn’t do that. I haven’t heard of any rivers traveling uphill, if you have info to provide on that I would like to see it. Yes we have been lied to, but bottom line is the southern cross is like a mirror image of the big dipper in the north and both rotate around their selective poles.

    • Godeschalk

      Flat earthers need to come out from their mothers basement and observe the world.

    • Daughter of the Church

      What the late Rob Skiba say about his own experience is an undeniable truth: that after thinking seriously for just one day about the Flat-Earth possibility, then cames the second day, and then the third, et cetera to become absolutely certain, to the level of being an expert, that the earth is not a globe. It is a fact that whoever thinks seriously becomes a convinced ‘Flat-Earther’. The rest who don’t have rejected the fable of heliocentrism, will never be able to think with logic, and so it is not a problem for the affabulateurs of “globe earth spinning”. The problem for those liars (of globe earth) is that there are many ‘Rob Skiba’s’ who will think seriously for just one day about Flat-Earth. The globe-earth-liars, in order to slow down this growing universal certitude of Flat-Earth are attempting to sow doubt. The bad seed of doubt, when all else has failed, such as ridicule, or intimidation etc. is to try at the make-belief that “it was all their own idea to begin with”. That’s it: if you can’t beat them, join them. The ‘CIA’ claim “it was a psychological operation, and we funded it”. Mister Juan O Savin is the operative ‘of the CIA’ to convey this lie. Got you dear sir, you have been unmasked.

      • bigscifilover

        I have asked many people to explain how the Southern Cross works on a flat earth and have never received an answer. This is the one issue that proves the earth is not flat. As the Greeks (realized 2300 years ago) when they sailed south of the equator and couldn’t use the north star to navigate any more, they used the southern cross which is always in the south to navigate. On a flat earth, there is no way the southern cross can be south in every position along the ice wall 360 degrees at the same time, yet if you were in South America you can see the Southern cross for 12 hrs. during the night, just as you can see the same for South Africa and in Australia. If there was a ice wall surrounding the flat earth, the the southern cross would have to be moving east to west 15 degrees every hour in order to travel around the flat earth within the 24 hour period. But the Southern Cross does not move east to west and is always in the south, indicating that the earth is indeed a globe. Now, is the earth spinning at 1000 miles per hour? I’m thinking that is not the case. If the earth is stationary, then I would think there is another globe surrounding the earth consisting of the sun, moon, and stars and we are in the middle of it. Could be what is called the firmament. That would explain how the Southern Cross can always be in the south just as the big Dipper is always in the north. But until someone cane actually explain how the Southern Cross can be in multiple locations at the…

        • Daughter of the Church

          The Southern Cross, which is only visible in the Southern hemisphere constitute indeed an unexplained mystery, if it remains ‘static’ as you ‘bigscifilover’ tells. May be, my own speculation, the Southern Cross is too low to the horizon… One thing that I know for sure is that during the Rio Summer Olympic 2016, when the Flat-Earth movement was getting traction, and therefore people had started paying attention to the stars above, is that thousands saw the North Star, while it was not supposed to be seen since Rio stands in the Southern Hemisphere.

          Then there has been (questionable) witnessing that during the winter season, the sun does not rotate 360 degrees in a 24 hours period ‘as observed by scientists at the “South Pole” as it does during the summer season at the North Pole’.

          • bigscifilover

            How do you know it was the north star that you saw from Rio. Just someone saying it was? If the sun does travel around the stationary globe, it must move 360 degrees every day, since it is Gods time piece and divides the day from the night. It may have been mother nature had created a weather condition that made it seem as though it didn’t happen, but i bet sunrise the next morning happened close the the same time as the day before.

          • Fake News = The False Prophet

            It doesn’t remain static. The Southern Cross spins around the southern sky once a year, it also does a complete circle each 24 hours. Actually it makes the complete circle in 23 hours 56 minutes and 4 seconds. It can also sometimes be seen from the northern hemisphere. I can see how it could be seen from three places on Aus, SA and Africa at the same time, but not just anywhere. 35 degrees south latitude and below where it can be seen all night hardly hits any land but if you were in those places then you would need to be looking south east, south west and south according to time of night and its brief. It is not directly used for navigation but acts as a pointer to another spot in the sky.

          • Fake News = The False Prophet

            The Southern Cross was visible in the northern hemisphere about 5,000 years ago, including most of North America, as well as Babylonia and Greece. Crux stars were even visible from Britain in the 4th millennium BCE.

            Richard Hinckley Allen, a 19th century expert in stellar nomenclature, noted that the stars of the Southern Cross were last visible on the horizon in Jerusalem around the time that Christ was crucified. As a result of precession, the Southern Cross eventually sank below the horizon for most of the northern hemisphere.

            The Southern Cross carries significance across many southern cultures and civilizations. It was an important symbol to the Egyptians and the Aborigines among other cultures. The Egyptians saw it as representative of the place where Horus was crucified, marking the passage of winter. The Aborigines and the Maori saw the asterism as symbolizing animist spirits that were integral to their ancestral beliefs. The Aborigines saw Crux and the Coalsack Nebula as marking the head of the “Emu in the Sky.”

          • Fake News = The False Prophet

            The Southern Cross was found depicted on a stone engraving in Machu Picchu. The Incas knew it as “Chakana,” meaning “stair,” and it played an important part in Incan mysticism, symbolizing the three tiers of the world: the heavens, the world of the living, and the underworld.

            The first documented example of the discovery of the Southern Cross was found in Ancient Greece around 1000 BCE. Ancient Greeks considered Crux to be part of Centaurus constellation. The asterism could be seen from Athens at the time, but it was low in the sky. Once the precession of the equinoxes took the whole constellation below the horizon for European observers, the five bright stars of Crux were gradually forgotten.

          • Fake News = The False Prophet

            There is some sort of mystery here without the flat earth involvement. I am also thinking there is another globe surrounding the earth consisting of the sun, moon, and stars and we are in the middle of it. Possibly more than one and maybe going in different directions. If there is something like the dimensional machine seen in the movie ‘contact’ happening then working some of this out will prove tricky, to say the least.

            • Fake News = The False Prophet

              “another globe surrounding the earth consisting of the sun, moon, and stars”

              It may not include the Sun and Moon. Stars yes.

    • thatdogwillbite

      So whats beyond the dome? Nobody knows but God is there and he said we can’t go. Also my mommy said I shouldn’t cross the street there are bad things over there. We’re not sure what but it must be bad and scary.

    • OverdoseOfTruth

      Flat earth is just division bait.

      Something to throw out there, so we will fight over over the illusion over whose right, whose wrong, so we will argue, and fight among ourselves, so we will forget that we should be coming together, taking action, on creating a solution.

      • Fake News = The False Prophet

        “over the illusion over whose right, whose wrong”

        That is going on with everything. It’s called searching for the truth. I can easily have this same ‘fight’ over 9/11, convid, vaccinations or any number of subjects with MOST people. We can only come together under the truth. And those don’t look, don’t find.

        • bigscifilover

          Maybe you should look a little harder.

          • Fake News = The False Prophet

            We already know I have looked a damn sight harder than you have. You are disingenuous at best. You were told where to find the answers to your beloved theory and you didn’t go there. That is the action of a dumbass.

            • bigscifilover

              I have watched dozens of flat earth videos over the years (even the ones you linked to) and I have been able to see the faults of the Authors explanations. I have only given you one example, and yet you still cannot provide the explanation. And of course in the end of you comment you have to provide an insult because you have nothing else to provide in your argument.

    • thatdogwillbite

      Well everything is subjective like this post some will find it utter nonsense others will find universe truth. Check it out then let us know what you think.
      I promise I won’t call anyone who responds a douchbag. Honest injun.

    • BruceWinshipWright

      Juan O’Savin is clearly a GATEKEEPER for Organized Crime, aka The Deep State, The Swamp, The Globalists, The Satanists, The Empire of The

      City STATES, THE WORLDWIDE MAFIA, etc. Ultimately, it’s ALWAYS the same people at the very top and they are always GANGSTERS. It’s

      always about The Worldwide Mafia, currently being headed up by The Russian/Khazarian Mafia (RKM).

      This RKM has totally owned and controlled Donald John Trump for well over 30 years now. Of course, thanks to MIKE GILL’s “irrefutable

      evidence”, including his $50 MILLION DOLLAR HUSH MONEY BRIBE, we now m”know” that “ALL” of our leaders, yes “all” of them, work for


      Juan O’Savin, Michael Flynn, Clay Clark, and all of the “FAKE CHRISTIAN PREACHERS” involved with this Support Trump Movement are actually

      “ENABLING SATANISM”, not fighting against it. None of them realizes, yet, “WHAT” Jesus actually is. Imagine that!!! They call themselves

      Christians, but don’t know “what” Jesus actually is? Huh? Juan O’Savin, Michael Flynn, and Clay Clark, along with hundreds of Satanic Clergy

      are calling themselves Christians yet NONE OF THEM KNOWS “WHAT” JESUS IS? WHAT? Yes, it’s true.

      In order to find out “WHAT” Jesus actually is, read some Dr. George W. Carey, for free, online. WAKE UP!!!!

    • Flipper 118

      Agree. Does it really matter if it is flat or oblate earth? No, the more important issue is freeing ourselves of the crooked criminal govt that stole the 2020 election. This is just one more petty issue to divide the patriots and waste time and energy. So now Juan o Savin is a bad guy because he doesn’t agree with your pet theory? When food and electricity is scarce maybe you won’t care about that.

      • Fake News = The False Prophet

        It matters BIG TIME as it is a foundation of so many other lies and cover-ups, which is one of the reasons they will fight so hard to get people to not even examine the evidence, and as a few on this site have demonstrated their strategy works on our simpler brethren. If that is what they are?

    • Twinflame1111




      IS STILL “ALIVE” !


      FOR “REAL”




      :arrow: THE “BIG RETURN EVENT” is COMING!


      THEY LIVE ! :cool:

      They Live – Preacher Speech


    • Fake News = The False Prophet

      This one is quite fun if you haven’t seen it.


    • Twinflame1111




      • Twinflame1111

        Almighty Gods True Intelligence Will Eventually Take Over Everything – Including Your Mind And Your Love Life.



    • Storm

      Yes, Jaun has bought into fake science, evolution, and the lunacy supposition that the earth is round ball spinning 1000 mph around on an axis traveling 66,000 mph around the Sun which journeys through the universe at 666,000 mph which manages to keep perfect alignment with the stars 24/7 365 days a year for millenniums. He is a fraud with a tongue tied in the middle flappin’ at both ends.

    • VOR

      So… flatlanders being flat – so now an inversion, perhaps a perversion.

      What do your eyes “C” are you really “free”?

      A muse bemused, really confused

      So… “I” “C” “U” >My peeps – we play for keeps<

    • Fake News = The False Prophet

      “I have watched dozens of flat earth videos over the years”

      Had you said that in the beginning I would have approached the conversation in a different way. I had just been talking with someone on BIN who seemingly wouldn’t look at anything to do with the subject and as I stated then my aim is not to get anyone to believe in FE, but to at least be informed on the subject when they comment on it. That way something useful may come out of the discussion instead of endlessly repeated questions. There ARE unanswered questions which is to be expected, same as any enquiry. But let’s have a look at what you say…

      “With a ice wall surrounding the perimeter, there is no way the southern cross can be south in every position along the ice wall 360 degrees at the same time.”

      There is no way your boat can be in every position along the ice wall 360 degrees at the same time either.

      “The mistake they make is pointing their scope at the horizon instead of keeping it level to the horizontal plane as the formula states. They would need to use a level to keep the telescope level (like a surveyors scope) along the horizontal plane and stop pointing it down at the horizon.”

      That appears to be nonsense as far as I can tell. If it’s over the horizon and you can zoom a ship back, what you say is irrelevant.

      “Yet if you were in South America you can see the Southern cross for 12 hrs. during the night, just as you can see the same for South Africa and in…

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        Now I’ll move on to a different angle.

        The Southern Cross is also known as the Crux.

        The crux of the matter

        Also, heart of the matter. Crux is Latin for “cross,” in English it means “difficulty” or “puzzle,” and it is from the latter that this expression is thought to be derived. The variant employs heart in the sense of “a vital part” (as it is in the body). The first term dates from the late 1800s, the variant from the early 1500s.

        The materium is the physical plane of existence.

        Cross word Puzzle.

        South – One of the four cardinal points and etymologically related to the sun.
        Cardinal – From Latin cardinalis relating to ecclesiastical princes and principle.

        Ephesians 6:12
        For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

        Job 9:9 Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.

        Note: Etymology of Ordinal – from Late Latin adjective ordinalis. c. 1400, “regular, ordinary; well-regulated, proper,” from Old French ordinel and directly from Late Latin ordinalis “showing order, denoting an order of succession,” from Latin ordo (genitive ordinis) “row, series” (see order (n.)). Meaning “marking the place or position of an object in an order or series”

        This is interesting from the “In the beginning was the Word” biblical angle, also the freemasonry angle. It is suggestive that there is indeed a puzzle to be worked out here that is central to something important.

        There are links to Greek and Egyptian mythology and ‘the sun’ and seperating circles etc etc. (This is never unimportant)

        • Fake News = The False Prophet

          Now some brief randomised thoughts:

          There is talk of a Dome. Is this dome reflective? Refractive? What effects might that generate? I don’t know.
          There is talk in the bible of ‘Gates’. I doubt any of us here have much, if any, understanding of how dimensional portals may affect ‘the matterium’.
          I suspect we are in a simulation. What is possible in a simulation? Perhaps ‘anything’. Unless you are limited by mis-education and purposful disorder.
          We see shows such as Stranger Things showing us ‘the upside down’. Other shows such as ‘The Dome’. There are many others that are suggestive in this area.
          Are we inside out? Is our perspective inside out? Does our potential perspective out have an edge?
          There are recorded cases of eclipses when the sun, moon and earth did not align as they should.
          You can make the phases of the moon with a tube and a light.
          The Moon is an anagram of No Om and was once known as Sin and there are stories of times when it was not there.
          There is, or used to be, an Argentinian base near the arctic or antarctic, I forget, called Deception.
          As you know we cannot go the antarctic ourselves as individuals.

          I’ll stop there, the point being, we know very little about how any of this is working and we have been indoctrinated into trusting ‘the science’ and ‘experts’ to tell us. This is coming unglued with every passing day. Science that can’t be questioned is propaganda. I magi nation.

          “Just look at us. Everything is…

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            “Just look at us. Everything is backwards, everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, psychiatrists destroy minds, scientists destroy truth, major media destroys information, religions destroy spirituality and governments destroy freedom.” – Michael Ellner

            Just because an answer is not immediately forthcoming does not mean it will not arrive and it’s initial absence does NOT qualify as PROOF of anything.

      • Fake News = The False Prophet

        Got cut off and no idea where this will end up so repeating…

        “Yet if you were in South America you can see the Southern cross for 12 hrs. during the night, just as you can see the same for South Africa and in Australia”

        Which places exactly and at what times? Vital. Because depending upon where you are it can be in the south, south east or south west and everywhere inbetween, at any time of the day or night.

        • Fake News = The False Prophet

          I’ll come back to this once I see clarification of your loose statement.

    • Fake News = The False Prophet

      Enter in ‘Jimmy’ and ‘bigscifilover’.

      I am not aware of seeing this pair before. Both jump straight into the flat earth topic and initially attempt to give the impression that they are just two dudes posting their on the fly thoughts on the subject. One is proffering up the ‘euclidian geometry’ angle and the other the ‘southern cross’ conundrum. What these both have in common is the unlikelyhood of the average person to both test the question and ascertain answers.

      In reality both have been frequenting flat earth comment sections on other sites and posting the same points. So when Jimmy posted his latitude and longitude answer he was likely already aware of the issues involved yet posted it anyway. The southern cross question attempts to mislead people to imagine that three people are looking straight at the ice wall from different points on the model. When I pointed out the daylight in at least one area it was quickly conceded. Yet bigscifilover must have been aware of this already yet failed to mention it in his opening remarks.

      Then bigscifilover gloms onto Jeffery as defender, whilst simultaneously suggesting the internet is generally for entertainment purposes, code for you are stupid to be taking any of this too seriously. Nothing could be further from the truth and amounts to an attempted poisoning of the well.

      Now in bigscifilover’s case there does appear to be some genuine effort. But draw your own conclusions.

      North East West South – NEWS of the WORLD (Whirled). STAY TUNED.

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      The Southern Cross (Crux) Solved

      I came across this bloke who explains how the Southern Cross can be seen from Australia, South America and Africa at the same time better than I can via words: Video 11 mins 30 secs

      Now onto the navigation problem.


      Polaris is commonly called the North Star or Pole Star. The position of the star lies less than 1° away from the north celestial pole, making it the current northern pole star. The stable position of the star in the Northern Sky makes it useful for navigation. This star represents a ‘Point’.


      The Southern Cross not only spins around the southern sky once a year, it also does a complete circle each 24 hours. Actually it makes the complete circle in 23 hours 56 minutes and 4 seconds or one sidereal day.

      At 35 degrees south latitude,the 35th parallel, and all latitudes farther south, you can see the Southern Cross at any hour of the night all year around. If you go to the following page you will see a map on the right showing the 35th Parallel and you will see how very little land is actually below it:

    • Fake News = The False Prophet

      The Southern Cross is circumpolar to the southern hemisphere and always appears in the southern sky for most observers. Depending on the time of the year (or night), the asterism may appear higher or lower above the horizon or be upside down.

      The Southern Cross is not directly used for navigation but acts as a pointer to another spot in the sky. If you go to this page and scroll down a bit you will see how this method works:

      So what is going on?

      Unlike the Northern Pole Star which acts like a point, the Southern Cross transcribes a circle. It is acting like a pencil and compass. As you rotate the compass with your thumb and finger a small rotation is made but depending upon the angle that the compass is set to you will draw a larger circle on a piece of paper, or in this case on the flat earth.

      So the Southern Cross will lead you ‘around in circles’ :)

      Now I wonder what angle that compass is actually set to? Some immediate candidates come to mind, such as the angle that the freemasonic compass is set to on their logo, the angle of slope on the Pyramid of Giza and then there is the famous 33 degrees.

      Squaring the circle is a problem in geometry first proposed in Greek mathematics. It is the challenge of constructing a square with the area of a circle by using only a finite number of steps with a compass and straightedge. For the square peg in a…

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        For the square peg in a circular hole, assume that the diameter of the circle equals the diagonal of the square. The difficulty of the problem raised the question of whether specified axioms of Euclidean geometry concerning the existence of lines and circles implied the existence of such a square.

    • Fake News = The False Prophet

      Those funny-looking hats at graduation perhaps originated in the Middle Age stonemason apprenticeship schools of Europe. This old tradition occurred when the stonemason apprentice graduated to the degree level of ‘Master Mason.’

      A stonemason’s mortarboard is a flat piece of wood measuring about twenty-four inches square. It is usually placed on a stand on the scaffolding near the wall being built. The mortarboard held the wet mortar until the stone setter applied it to the stones with the Mason’s trowel. The setter then placed the mortared stone into the wall. After the mortar dried around the stone, a strong solid wall was formed.

      A skullcap was a brimless cloth cap typically worn in the ancient stonemason’s day. Taken together, the mortarboard and skull cap look exactly like a modern graduation cap. Today’s graduation caps are even called ‘mortarboard hats.

      The initial design for mortarboards perhaps came from Italian-style birettas, hats worn by Roman Catholic clergymen.

      Just an example page:

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      KJV Bible Quotes

      Leviticus 19:27
      Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.

      Isaiah 66:1
      Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

      Revelation 7:1
      And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

      Ezekiel 7:2
      Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land.

      If anyone has any further tricky celestial mechanics problems to solve, please don’t bother me with them.

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      Are you Ready for Star Link?

      David Bowie – Ground Control to Major Tom

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      The Beatles – With A Little Help From My Friends

    • BruceWinshipWright

      Juan O’Savin is clearly one of the bad guys and SG Anon is actually right on the money and a good guy.

      Very few people are both enlightened enough and courageous enough to SELL the TRUTH that both Astronomy & Virology are fake sciences.

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