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Prophets and Dreamers from Deuteronomy

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Theology and Politics from a Conservative, Biblical Perspective

I’m putting the finishing chapters into the next book currently in-progress that deals mainly with my own involvement in the Charismatic Movement from years ago and today’s New Apostolic Reformation movement (or NAR), which is really an offshoot of the earlier Charismatic Movement. Within NAR, there are those who firmly believe that God has raised prophets and apostles with the authority equal to the prophets and apostles of old. I disagree that God is doing this, but it makes no sense arguing about it. People have their reasons for believing what they believe. For me, it is most important that what I believe aligns with what is revealed in God’s Word; nothing more and nothing less. That’s a full-time job for me. It is the same with you. If we disagree over this issue, let’s continue to do so in a mature manner, one in which the Lord is glorified. Let’s do our best to keep our flesh and sin nature totally out of the picture.

At any rate, one thing we should be able to agree on is what is revealed to us in the opening verses of Deuteronomy 13 and also in Deuteronomy 18 dealing with false prophets. In fact, it’s fascinating and demands our attention and contemplation. Let’s look at Deuteronomy 13 first.

1 “If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, 2 and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ 3 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him. 5 But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:1-5 ESV)

Let’s look very carefully at the words of Moses in the above passage. First, Moses offers a warning to the Israelites about “prophets” or “dreamer of dreams.” He’s not talking about daydreamers here. He’s speaking about people who receive information that could only come from sources outside of themselves. They either see in their mind’s eye a vision of sorts or while they are sleeping, they have a dream that purports to be from some external supernatural force or being.

Notice, Moses is not saying that this would never happen. In fact, Moses is warning the Israelites that it most likely would occur and they needed to be ready when it came. Second, Moses indicates that if someone comes to them who claims to be a prophet or dreamer of dreams and what he says comes to pass, the people of Israel need to be very wary. Why? Because in the case of a “false” prophet or dreamer of dreams, the ultimate goal would be to direct Israelites away from Jehovah to another “god.” This is also true of Christians today and the many voices out there claiming to be prophetic. I’m not going to tell you who is and who is not “from” God. You’re supposed to use your own knowledge of God’s Word, discernment, and prayer to help determine it.

Moses provided the Israelites with a way to discern reality behind the prophet. Moses says prophets and dreamer of dreams would come to them and foretell events that may in fact come to pass. That alone would dazzle most people, wouldn’t it? Clearly then, the test for veracity is not whether the prophesy or dream did come to pass. Moses is saying if some prophet/dreamer of dreams comes to them, foretells something and it does comes to pass…that’s a given that there is a possibility it will come to pass. Simply because it comes to pass is no indication that it squares with God or is from God.

So, if the test is not in the fact that the prophesy or dream comes to pass, what is the actual test that Israelites could use to determine the veracity of the individual making the prophesies or sharing the dreams? The test for that individual is found in the God/god that they point Israel toward. This is extremely important, not only for Israel in the Old Testament but also for the Church (the spiritual entity, or Bride of Christ) today!

Today, there are many, many prophetic voices speaking to people. I’ve lost count of them, while other websites do their best to catalog them all and keep their “prophesies” up to date.

Many “prophets” are in absolute contradiction to one another. We have people today who claim to have been anointed as prophets and apostles, ostensibly by God through some human agent. These individuals and those who follow them firmly believe that what they speak as prophets/apostles is literally God-ordained or “God-breathed.” This is very clear from them. It stands to reason that if God is speaking through them, then what is being stated has just as much authority as His written Word, doesn’t it? Regardless of how God speaks, whatever the venue, His authority is active.

But Moses tells the people of Israel that even if some prophet or dreamer comes along and says something that turns out to be true, the actual test of his character, integrity, and veracity is not to be found there. It is found in what he teaches about God and how he directs the people either to or away from Jehovah! This is so important it cannot be emphasized enough especially in today’s climate of emotionalism that has pervaded mainline denominations and Christendom itself.

Moses then reveals why a prophet or dreamer of dreams might come to the Israelites and appear to be speaking truth. Verse 3 states, “…For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

What? Moses is actually stating that when a situation occurs where a prophet/dreamer of dreams comes along and prophesies something that comes to pass, but his theology where God is concerned is shaky at best and simply wrong at worst, this individual has been allowed/sent by God for the purpose of testing the Israelites! Moses is not saying that God allows this to tempt the Israelites, but to test their resolve and commitment. God is proving their hearts. Are Israelites sold out to Him or not? Will they be swayed by words that appear to come to pass in spite of what the prophet believes about God? This is tremendously important and applies to Christendom today because of the many voices that are all claiming to speak words of wisdom from God.

The big question then is what does that particular prophet or dreamer of dreams believe about God? Is he/she trying to move you away from accurate truth about God? Are they trying to pull the wool over your eyes to help you believe that you are a “little god” yourself because of your connection with God in Christ? What does that person actually believe about God? What is their theology? This is extremely important and this also means that Christians are required to study God’s Word so that we can better understand God. This doesn’t happen with any amount of regularity though does it? Too often, Christians rarely crack open the Bible. They listen through a sermon on Sunday but tend to rely on their leaders to tell them what to believe and what the Bible means. They don’t take the initiative and study for themselves to show themselves “…as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth,” (2 Timothy 2:15 ESV). Christians will be held accountable for that at the BEMA Judgment Seat of Christ.

But in Deuteronomy 18, we have the flip side of the coin that also needs our attention and is also very much applicable for us today. Here is Deuteronomy 18:20 (ESV).

But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’

That type of prophet was supposed to be put to death by the people of Israel. This was rarely done. That prophet spoke in the Name of God but without His authority and without His truth. In other words, the prophet said that God “told me” but in truth, God had told him nothing. In this case, his words did not come true and it made God appear as a liar. In truth, the prophet was simply spreading his own lies likely for self-aggrandizement. The text goes on to tell Israelites how to know if God is speaking through a prophet.

when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him. (v. 22)

This is referring to someone who heard nothing but pretends he has heard from God and announces it like that. He credits God with speaking to/through Him so that the people will not disobey. In that case, God has not spoken through the prophet and the people do not need to be afraid of not listening to him. That alleged prophet is to be taken outside the camp and stoned to death to purge the evil from the camp.

Let’s be clear here. America is not a theocracy. We exist as a Constitutional Republic under the Constitution. We cannot stone people to death because they are false prophets. This is part of the reason there are so many who claim that position because they know they are safe from death. Paul explains what our attitude toward these false prophets should be.

17 I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. 18 For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. (Romans 16:17-18 KJV)

We are to note these false prophets and avoid them. We are to also tell others to do the same. These individuals are “smooth talkers,” con men who seek their own self-aggrandizement and gain. They are only in it for what they can gain from it.

So we learn that there are two categories of false prophets/dreamers. The first in Deuteronomy 13 is the one whose prophesies come to pass but his intent is to drag people away from the living God to error by worshiping other false gods. The second in Deuteronomy 18 speaks of the false prophet who prophesies falsely – what he declares simply does not come to pass. In both cases, we are to avoid that person. We should “mark” them in our minds – make a strong mental note about them – and warn others as well. If we warn others and they do not heed our warning, it is on them.

Folks, I implore you that you would immerse yourself in God’s Word. Study it. Show yourself approved that through it you might come to know God Almighty better. The more you understand about God through His written Word, the less chance you will be taken in by false prophets/dreamers.

If someone tells you that a person you follow or whose books you read is a false teacher or false prophet, don’t simply disregard that. At least be willing to do your own research into things. That person telling you may be wrong, but don’t ignore them simply because you “like” the person you follow. You “enjoy” how they preach or what they teach. Does it all thoroughly square with God’s Word or not? That is the only deciding factor, not how “likable” or “sincere” they might be.

Theology and Politics from a Conservative, Biblical Perspective


Source: https://studygrowknowblog.com/2018/02/26/prophets-and-dreamers-from-deuteronomy/


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    • jknbt

      a word of prophecy has the same authority as a sermon….the question is whether or not it is valid according to the rule of scripture…these little “words” that pass around in churches are subject to close scrutiny. They do not have the same authority as the inspired, infallible, inerrant Word of God…period…Anyone who says they do is in error, at the least, or a false teacher.

      and p.s….anyone who names the day, hour, or even the year of the rapture or the second coming is a false prophet, and must be rejected outright. Don’t even bother to listen, much less buy their book and cd set for the low price of $39.95 plus shipping.

      Grow up, please, Christians out there. Will ya? Stop looking for something to tickle your ears. Get out your Bible and actually use it for a change. That is the revelation of God that speaks most clearly to this apostate end-time Laodicean age, not Brother Shazbot with his “yea and shanda” and “verily, Oh Yesss!” jabbering on and on with highly generalized nonsense that never pans out.

    • Denway

      “Go in through the narrow gate, because broad is the gate and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are finding it.” Mt 7: 13 Yes, Jesus was talking about those who would choose to become his followers. “For it is the appointed time for the judgment to start with the house of God. Now if it starts first with us, what will the outcome be for those who are not obedient to the good news of God? “And if the righteous man is being saved with difficulty, what will happen to the ungodly man and the sinner?” 1Peter 4: 17-19
      If those that claim to be ‘righteous’, because of their claim to serve God, think that they are secure in their belief of salvation simply because they attend a church or follow a teacher, including Jesus the greatest of all teachers, but don’t study and know his teaching for themselves are making themselves easy pry to any and all teaching that sound good to their ears. Going back to what Jesus said in Matthew 7, he continues starting in verse 15-23 saying: “Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men. “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!”!
      Who would be saying to Jesus ‘Lord, Lord’, obviously those who through the years would claim to be his followers. They even claimed to do powerful works in his name but how did he respond to them? He called them workers of lawlessness and in the preceding verses referred to them as ‘false prophets’ in sheep’s clothing. The fact that they claim to serve Jesus means nothing the ‘fruits’ that they bare in their lives prove that they do not. So, the question would arise to any normal thinking person, beings that there are both true and false Christians in the world who claim to represent the true god Jehovah how could you possibly know which was which without reading the Bible for yourself? This is especially important in view of the fact that Jesus says of these ones, in verse 13 of Mt. 7, very few would be on the road to life. The rest, no mater what their claims, are on the road to destruction.
      Also, you may have noticed in the verse at Mt. 7: 20 that another reason Jesus rejects the claims of false Christians to be his followers is what? “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but ONLY THE ONES DOING THE WILL of my Father who is in the heavens will.”
      So, to recap, Jesus tells us that most individuals that claim to serve him are in reality on the road to destruction, because they are in fact not really doing what Jehovah God, Jesus’ father wants them to be doing. How do we know, because the the ‘fruits’ that they are displaying in their lives are not in fact true Christian fruits. Organizations and churches that claim to be followers of Jesus can be identified in the same way, are they displaying, and instilling true Christian teachings? If one does not read and study the bible for themselves they are in fact staking their lives on the thoughts and teachings of others who may, or may not, represent true Christian teachings. It might at the moment be nice to have your ears ‘tickled’ by false teachers who tell you what you want to hear (2Tim 4: 3-4), how nice is it going to be when in fact you find out that you have ended up on the ‘broad road’ to destruction?
      In the book of Acts, chapter 17, verse 10-11, it tells us what one would think would be the logical action to take when it comes to the Bible, saying: “Immediately by night the brothers sent both Paul and Silas to Beroea. On arriving, they went into the synagogue of the Jews. Now these were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they accepted the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily to see whether these things were so.” And yet, as has been pointed out by others, how many professing Christianity do this?

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