Doc Marquis - Another Faux Christian Con?

This man sends out signals that should disturb anyone with discernment let alone Christians.  
Let’s examine…

Joseph “Doc” Marquis (born 1956) is a Christian writer who claims to be an ex-member of the Illuminati.

According to his version of events, he was initiated into the group at the age of four by his foster aunt, became a high priest at thirteen and a master witch at seventeen before eventually leaving in 1979. He claims that, since then, the Illuminati has tried to kill him. He says that other people involved with the Illuminati include Charles Manson, Sharon Tate (whom Manson was sent to assassinate as she wanted to leave) and alleged alien abductee Whitley Strieber (“the biggest, the most obnoxious individual I’ve ever met”, says Doc).

He claims that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is genuine evidence of a conspiracy, but one organised by the Illuminati rather than Jews like normally claimed by conspiracy theorists.

Marquis says that satan has assigned seven demons with controlling hell and interfering with human affairs: Rege (“deals with such drugs as marijuana, hashish, cocaine, speed, LSD, peyote and mescaline… [and] is also responsible for seeing that music is hexed”); Larz (“Demon of Sexual lust, homosexuality, bi-sexuality, adultery, and other such sexual pleasure”); Bacchus (“Demon of addictions, such as [to] drugs, smoking, and alcohol”); Pan (“causes mental illnesses, depression, suicide, nerves, and rejection”); Medit (“Demon of hate, murder, killing, war, jealousy, envy, and gossip”); Set (“Demon of Death”) and a seventh, unnamed demon “so powerful that most witches won’t even bother him” whose job is “Getting Christians to talk about each other through gossiping and causing strife within the church”.

Doc’s book Secrets of the Illuminati contains an elaborate seal with the phrase “I, Witch” written above it in red, representing the New World Order. The Cutting Edge Ministries website – an eager supporter of Marquis’ claims – explains that this is not the official NWO seal but merely a diagram outlining Doc’s theories.

Apparently, the “I” part “depicts the extremely self-centered, self-proclaimed wise and righteous man who is working mightily for Lord Satan to achieve this new system”. The outer circle lists the “many organizations which are striving mightily and cooperatively for the New World Order”: Catholicism, Satanism, Rosicrucians, Dungeons and Dragons, the eight “Satanic Sabbaths” and the Cabala, represented by Hebrew text reading “Witchcraft Today For As Much Within Ancient Babylon”. Cabala is actually a mystic philosophy, but according to this lot it’s “the most influential of all secret societies in the drive to the New World Order”.

The second circle is apparently “comprised of [sic] the most influential human activity possible”: the Illuminati, the Masons, the  United States seals (“The Two Seals of Our Doom”), the House of Rothschilds, the rock and roll industry and the Black Pope. Sounding rather like one of those seventies exploitation films, the Black Pope is apparently a Jesuit leader who is “believed to wield the real absolute power within the Vatican.”

Criticisms

Doc’s claims have been refuted by Wiccan commentator Kerr Cuhulain. “Salman Rushdie” has a one million dollar price on his head and has gone deep underground”, he writes. “Marquis claims that he has a half a million on his head and takes no precautions whatsoever to avoid assassination. He can supply no details of the 8 alleged attempts on his life. He claims that he only reported the first attempt to police but cannot remember where or to what agency. Marquis excuses his lack of precautions by claiming that ‘God won’t allow’ him to be killed.”

Cuhulain also questions how a thirteen year old boy was able to serve as a high priest of this secret society without his parents finding out, and points to inconsistencies in Doc’s account of the over one hundred human sacrifices which he claims to have been involved with: first claiming that the bodies were simply left in woods or by roads, then claiming that they were carefully disposed of. Presumably he changed this part of the story to explain the absence of evidence, although, as Cuhulain points out, it still leaves the question of why Doc apparently hasn’t helped out on any missing person cases that would have inevitably arisen.

Sources:

1. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Joseph_%22Doc%22_Marquis
2. http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.html?a=cabc&c=whs&id=6205
3. http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.html?a=cabc&c=whs&id=6206
4. http://web.archive.org/web/20090604220035/http://www.cuttingedge.org/n1050.html
5. http://www.cuttingedge.org/pages/seminar2/seal8.htm 

Check this one out if you have time - The Prodigal Witch XII: Doc Marquis

Transcript of June 24, 1987 Oprah Winfrey program on witches where Marquis was a guest.

The part we’re interested in…

                                    Guests:

                     LAURIE CABOT, official witch of Salem
                           DORA RUFFNER, white witch
                     JOSEPH MARQUIS, former satanic priest
                           WHITLEY STRIEBER, author
                        BOB LARSON, Christian minister



THE OPRAH WINFREY SHOW Show #W203                      Air Date: June 24, 1987

                                    WITCHES

OPRAH  WINFREY:   Toil and trouble.  That's what's been bubbling  across  this
country  ever since the new movie _The Witches of Eastwick_ started production
last year.  Witches throughout America are outraged by the film's portrayal of
them.   Let's take a look at one of the scenes from _Witches of Eastwick_ that
has caused such controversy. And here it is now.

     [clip from "The Witches of Eastwick"]

WINFREY:  Well,  my first guest led a protest picketing the state film bureau,
saying that the film's portrayal of witches was unfair.  She says that  witch-
craft  and  satanism are two different belief systems and  that  witches  have
never  believed in or worshipped Satan.  She also says that Christians created
all  of those monstrous stories about bad witches.  Meet the official witch of
Salem, Massachusetts, Laurie Cabot.  My next guest calls herself a white witch
and  specializes in shamanic healing,  working with people to help them get in
touch  with their natural forces.  She says that witchcraft is a true religion
of  true magic.  Dora Ruffner is her name.  And my next guest says that  after
spending 18 years as a high satanic priest,  he knows that witchcraft is evil.
He  claims  that  the only way to escape once you've joined is  to  either  be
killed or saved by Jesus Christ. Meet Joseph Marquis. Welcome them all  to the
show. Glad to have you.

     (Interviews Laurie Cabot, then goes to Marquis)

WINFREY: On the other hand, you've been a high priest.

JOSEPH MARQUIS, former satanic priest:  For 18 years, Oprah.  I  first started
when I was at the age of five. I  first - someone sent a demon to me. Now, I'm
talking  about  a literal figurative entity,  something that you can  actually
reach out to. Eventually, as the years passed on -

WINFREY: Somebody sent the demon to you?

Mr. MARQUIS: Right. I'm positive I know who it was.

WINFREY: Okay. Why?  As a five-year-old they sent the demon to you?

Mr. MARQUIS:  Well,  as a matter of fact there are witch queens right now over
entire states who are only 13 years old. Their word is law. Going back to what
you were saying about _The Wizard of Oz_,  _The Wizard of Oz_ was one  of  the
first movies ever where we saw a portrayal of a good witch.  I mean,  now that
philosophy  is  changing.  Before,  we used to think of  witchcraft  from  the
scriptural point of view as being evil. Now suddenly there's a shift.

WINFREY: What is the shift?

Mr. MARQUIS: That there is now a good side.

WINFREY: To the witches.

Mr. MARQUIS: To witchcraft.

WINFREY: Were you a witch?

Mr. MARQUIS: Yes, I was. I was a practicing one for 18 years.

WINFREY: You were a practicing witch, that's what you called yourself.

Mr. MARQUIS: Right. As a matter of fact,  the first thing I started off as was
with  what's known as earth mother religion.  You believe in the plurality  of
gods and goddesses. Eventually -

WINFREY: Which is what Laurie has been telling us.

Mr. MARQUIS: Basically. Eventually, as I got to the higher levels, your philo-
sophy  is changed.  You are now told what's really going on.  Now,  a  lot  of
witches today,  independent witches, people who are doing it by themselves and
those who haven't really reached the higher levels yet,  honestly believe that
they're  just,  you know,  this earth mother religion.   After you get to  the
higher levels,  you're actually told what God you're worshipping.  We call him
Satan,  okay, but they call him Lucifer.  This group I'm talking about isknown
as the illuminati.  They are the most powerful,  subversive group that's  ever
existed in all of man's history.

WINFREY: And where are they existing, here?

Mr. MARQUIS: Yes. As a matter of fact, they've already infiltrated our govern-
ment.  On the back of the one dollar bill you will find three hexagrams and  a
pentacle.  The hexagram with that symbol and the little circle  around it,   a
witch can summon up a demon. Demons you order about, you know, to cause things
to happen. It's not something psychic we all have, you know, this innate power
within us. It's the ordering about of demons.

WINFREY: So other people can order demons to you, or to whomever.

Mr. MARQUIS: If you know how to do it.

WINFREY: If you know how. You say that's true or not, Laurie?

Ms. CABOT: It's not true.

WINFREY: We'll be right back.

     [Commercial break.]

Interviews Whitney Strieber with interjections by Ruffner and Cabot

     [Commercial break]

More banter between Strieber, Ruffner and Cabot.  Read whole transcript linked if interested in that squabble.

WINFREY: Caller, you say what? Hello.

1st CALLER: Hello. I'd like to say,  how can you say that this is love and how
can you say you came from a Catholic or Christian home?  My husband joined one
of these groups four years ago.  My life turned to hell,  literally.   Because
there is no goodness; this is evil. My husband took off,  he left behind three
kids,  a job, a  home and a lot of other real good things going on in his life
to be a part of this.

WINFREY: To be a part of what? See, you have to tell us what "this" is.

1st CALLER: A witchcraft cult.

WINFREY: Witchcraft.

1st CALLER: Living in some witch occult group up in a northern suburb.

WINFREY: Of Chicago?

1st CALLER: Yeah.

Ms. CABOT: Why would he leave his family to do that? We have children and fam-
ilies.  We're human beings. I have two daughters.

1st CALLER: I have no doubts that you have children.  They attempted to kidnap
my kids.

Ms. CABOT:  We are airline stewardesses, we are lawyers, we work,  we are part
of the community.

Mr. LARSON: She brings up a very good point.

1st  CALLER:  I  have no doubt that you're in every corner of society.   These
people  attempted to kidnap my children.   They caused us physical harm.  They
caused us emotional harm.  What they have done is destroyed basically what God
put together, a family.

Mr. STRIEBER: Well, that's very sad -

WINFREY:  Caller, could you not accept this premise, just a possibility,  just
that  there are people who have wars and kill each other in the name of  Jesus
Christ, that there are also people who practice witchcraft and do all kinds of
horrible, inhumane things to other people?

1st CALLER: Well, I know they do this. I  don't have to live with it or accept
it.   Four years ago,  for instance,  my husband had a party at the house.  We
weren't invited to it;  he said it was a bachelor party.  We came home to find
several people still at our house just kind of sitting - they had killed three
of our cats at one of these parties.

Mr. STRIEBER: A witch would never kill a cat.

Mr. LARSON: That is not true. They do it all the time.

Mr. STRIEBER: No, they don't.

Mr. LARSON: You can't get off the hook that easy.

WINFREY: Please speak just - [crosstalk]

Mr. MARQUIS:  Oprah,  there are eight ceremonies on a witch's calendar.  There
are certain sabbaths that must be done every single year.

Ms. CABOT: That's not true.

Mr. MARQUIS: As a matter of fact -

WINFREY: Let him speak. Thank you.

Mr. MARQUIS:  Four of them are definite human sacrifice ones.  The victims are
easily picked up.  They are wandering teenagers looking for a good time,  run-
aways,  skid row bums, paper boys,  paper girls.  You can go out to the street
the day before or the day during, pick up that child, drug him, or whoever you
want to, get him ready for the ceremony,  and at that time they will slice the
person's  throat open,  pick up the blood in a chalice,  because they  believe
that the power in the blood will add to them.

WINFREY: How do you know this?

Mr. MARQUIS: I wasn't the only one who practiced this.

WINFREY:   So  you have practiced in going out and picking up people  off  the
street and slicing their throats?

Mr. MARQUIS: Yes, they were the easiest ways to -

Ms. CABOT: And why aren't you in jail?

WINFREY: Wait a minute. I want him to say -

Ms. CABOT: Why didn't they kill him, and why aren't you in jail?

WINFREY: Please let him speak.

Mr. MARQUIS: Sharon Tate-La Bianca's murder, okay, was a witch's hitting. Sha-
ron Tate wanted out, but the thing is, the illuminati -

WINFREY: What do you mean she wanted out? She was a witch?

Mr. MARQUIS:  Yes, she was tired of it.  She wanted to get out,  but the thing
was -

WINFREY: Sharon Tate was a witch, okay. You base those allegations on what?

Mr. MARQUIS: On when I was in, myself. I'm not the only one who knows this in-
formation.   Anybody who was in witchcraft during that time can tell  you  the
same thing.

WINFREY: That Sharon Tate was a practicing witch?

Mr. MARQUIS: Yes. As a matter of fact, the illuminati -

WINFREY:  I have no information to refute it, so I'm only going on what you're
saying.

Mr. MARQUIS: The illuminati sent Charles Manson in to kill her.  If you remem-
ber,  she was killed, one leg was strung up from the rafter,  her hands behind
her,  her throat sliced open. There is a tarot, 78 cards in a tarot deck.  You
look at the 12th major arcane one,  it looks like the hangman.  That's exactly
how Sharon Tate-La Bianca was left. Charles Manson did not go into prison;  he
volunteered to go in.

WINFREY: So you're saying that Charles Manson came from this group,  the illu-
minati.

Mr. MARQUIS: He's one of the most powerful wizards alive today.

WINFREY: And it was a part of this whole witch plan.

Mr. MARQUIS: Yes.

WINFREY: And are you also saying that as a practicing high priest and a former
witch, that you participated in human sacrifice?

Mr. MARQUIS: As a matter of fact, my group, we did.

WINFREY:  You actuall stood there,  sat there,   and watched somebody's throat
slashed?

Mr. MARQUIS: It would be either kids, grown-ups, animals. And the thing is, we
didn't body bag these people afterwards.  We'd just take them,  throw them  in
the woods, the side of the road on a highway. Somebody's going to find them.

WINFREY: We'll be right back.

     [Commercial break]

WINFREY:   You can't argue if he says he was a high priest and that's what  he
saw and what they did, fine. But I think what we need to establish here,  what
you're saying is that there is a difference between satanism and witchcraft.

Mr. STRIEBER: A great difference. But there's also a lot more. That made me so
sad to hear that. First of all, for him and the suffering that must be in this
poor man.

Mr. MARQUIS: I'm not suffering. I'm feeling great.

Mr. STRIEBER:   If he has indeed participated in the killing of another  human
being, he's suffering from the rest of his life, in all seriousness.

Mr. MARQUIS: You know, as a matter of fact, when I became a born-again -

WINFREY: Now you have to let him finish. Thank you.

Mr. STRIEBER:  Now,  he wrote this little document that your office has that I
was given parts of to read.

WINFREY: _I, Witch_.

Mr. STRIEBER: Yeah. He says there are three million witches. I  just want to -
of his ilk in New England.  He says they participate in human sacrifice.  Now,
here is the truth.  There are 14.6 million people in New England, 5.9  million
of them are Catholics,  1.6 million of them are Protestants,  according to the
United  States Census in 1980.  Now,  there can't be twice as many witches  as
Protestants in New England. Come on.

WINFREY: But if you are a witch - let me just ask you this here,  Whitley - if
you are a witch,  is it something, particularly after hearing him speak, is it
something you would want to come out and tell people you are?  So if you are a
practicing witch, would you even admit it? So who knows who the witches are?

Mr. STRIEBER:  The courage it takes to get up here for a witch is great,  yes.
But they're doing something good, they're doing something wonderful.

Mr. LARSON: It's called publicity, not courage.

Mr. MARQUIS: Human sacrifice is anything but wonderful.

Mr. STRIEBER: Christianity is getting a bad rap up here,  and I want to defend
it, because I am a Catholic and I apologize for him.

Mr. LARSON:  You apologize for  witches,   and you're going to defend Christi-
anity?

Mr. STRIEBER: Christianity is about love, gentleness, openness, acceptance. We
all know that this is true,  this is the truth in our hearts.  It's not  about
this rejecting, being close-minded, being afraid. They're afraid. He's afraid.

Mr. LARSON: Afraid of what? What's he afraid of?

Mr. STRIEBER: He's - believe me, these people -

WINFREY: Joseph, yes? Because you are now a born-again Christian.

Mr. MARQUIS: Christian, right. I was raised a Catholic.

Mr. STRIEBER: A Catholic, a witch, he's everything.

Mr. MARQUIS:  See it was a great - I'll answer that. You see,  back when I was
just as afraid as any other witch of being caught. What I did, I taught Sunday
school as a Catholic.

Mr. STRIEBER: Look, I think -

WINFREY: Please let him finish. I want to hear what he has to say.

Mr. MARQUIS:  If anybody tried to pin anything on me,  I  could just go to the
priest. They would say,  "Wait a second,  this guy is a long,  faithful Catho-
lic." [crosstalk]

Mr. STRIEBER:  But he's saying he taught Sunday school as a Catholic,  and  we
don't have Sunday schools.  We don't have - now,  wait a minute.  There's some
flim-flam going on here, Oprah.

WINFREY: Where did you teach Sunday School?

Mr. MARQUIS: It was called St. Mary's. It's in Lawrence, Massachusetts.

Mr. STRIEBER: St. Mary's, which one? Which one?

Mr. MARQUIS: In Lawrence, Mass., there's only one.

Mr. LARSON: Don't get so uptight.

WINFREY:   I  want to know,  so you say you taught Sunday school.  [crosstalk]
Please  let's  talk  one  at a time.  You taught Sunday school  as  a  way  of
disguising your ...

Mr. MARQUIS:   Right.  I   was as afraid as most other witches then  of  being
caught. There was a lot of turmoil going on. Now, I  don't care if you call it
white,  gray, luciferianism, satanism, the earth mother religion,  you have to
consider  where  is the source.   The source is all in the one saint,  and  it
doesn't come from God. There is one other thing, though.

WINFREY: Where does it come from, you claim?

Mr. MARQUIS: It comes from Satan.

Ms. CABOT: That's their belief system. They have a Satan. I  don't even have a
Satan.

Mr. MARQUIS: That is a fact.

WINFREY: Can you accept the fact that perhaps maybe there are people who prac-
tice it, but maybe she's absolutely telling us the truth?

Mr. MARQUIS: Oh, as a matter of fact -

WINFREY: That she's a good witch.

Mr. MARQUIS: - according to her knowledge, she is. I believe every single word
this lady over here is saying.  Because the thing is, I was fed that same line
when I first began.

Ms. CABOT: By whom?

WINFREY:  So at what time is she going to be fed a different line?   Does  she
have to go higher up the heirarchy of witchdom and then discover -

Mr. MARQUIS: Well, she is an established witch of Salem, okay.  She's going to
be  there  forevermore,  probably.  Unless you get into some of the  real  big
organizations, like the illuminati, okay, in the illuminati, once you get past
the third level they will tell you what's really going on.

WINFREY: You say there is no illuminati?

Ms. CABOT: Give me an address.

Mr. STRIEBER: What is it? It doesn't exist.

Ms. CABOT:  Give me a phone number and an address. I'll call them. I'd like to
know who these people are.

WINFREY: We'll be right back.

     [Commercial break]

WINFREY: I  think what's confusing to those of us in the audience here is that
neither side refuses to accept the fact that each side exists.  You did,  how-
ever,   say that you believe that she is right - or that at least she believes
what  she says is true.  You say that the illuminati,  this cult  of  witches,
doesn't exist. What if -

Mr. STRIEBER: I think there's flim-flam going on down at the end of the stage.
I've got to be just very plain-spoken about it.

WINFREY: In what way?

Mr. LARSON: [unintelligible], please.

Mr. STRIEBER: Past you. No, you're for real, sadly enough.

WINFREY: In what way do you consider -

Mr. STRIEBER:  Well,   I've got to - he says in his book that there are  three
million witches in New England.  He says they're practicing human sacrifice. I
had my researchers yesterday call 10 police departments in New England. No one
had  heard anything about any human sacrifices taking place in their towns  in
the past five years. And it cannot be kept secret.

WINFREY:  Let me ask you this.  What about all the children's - we did a show,
one of the moist poignant shows that I recall,  with a 10-year-old boy, a  10-
year-old boy who had been brought into a cult.  Whether they called themselves
witches, whether they called themselves satanists, this child had been brought
into a cult,  witnessed human sacrifices and said what they do, just as Joseph
said  to  us today,   they throw the bodies away or they burn the bodies.  And
there  are  missing  children,  missing people all over  this  country.   Just
because, Whitley,  nobody found the bodies and nobody called in to a newspaper
and said human sacrifices are going on, doesn't mean that it does not exist.

Mr. STRIEBER:  You're right, Oprah.  There may be something terrible happening
in this United States. That's very true.

WINFREY:  And I think it's unfortunate that we close our eyes to the fact that
something  terrible is going on in these United States.   It doesn't mean that
they are doing it,  but for you to say it doesn't exist says to me that you're
closing your eyes.

Mr. STREIBER: No, it's not true.

Ms. CABOT:  It  exists,  but I think you're aggrandizing it.  I   don't  think
there's  millions of people out there doing that.  I  think there's people who
are skulking under rocks somewhere doing that kind of stuff.  It's illegal and
it's nasty. It's totally against our way of life. It terrifies me.

WINFREY: Okay, I accept that.

Ms. RUFFNER:  What I hear is that everybody,  everyone,  is giving away  their
power  to discriminate in the present moment what is good for them,   what  is
their truth. I mean, if you are in a group and you cannot tell that that group
has about it the kind of people and energy that would include human sacrifice,
then  you're  sadly  not in touch with something.  And if it  matters  to  you
whether they say they're a witch or a Catholic or a Buddhist or something,  if
you have to look at that before you can look at a person and say,  "I see you,
and I see who you are," then -

Mr. MARQUIS: No, you see a lot of us - excuse me - a lot of us were too afraid
to  get out.  You see,  most people who belong to the illuminati,  you get out
within 24 hours, you have nothing less than a $10,000 bounty put on your head.

WINFREY: Who's going to pay it?

Mr. MARQUIS: They don't care how it's collected.

WINFREY: Who's going to pay the bounty?

Mr. MARQUIS: As a matter of fact, the illuminati has their own hitmen.

Ms. CABOT: Who is he talking about?

Mr. STREIBER: I don't know what he's talking about. He's crazy.

Mr. MARQUIS:  Oh, they do. As a matter of fact, Dr.  Adam Wieshopf [?] in 1776
established this order. As a matter of fact, it was supposed to be a new world
order,  as he called it, getting the brightest, the best of intelligent people
to guide and control the earth.

WINFREY: So what's going to happen to you for speaking out against the illumi-
nati?

Mr. MARQUIS:  I've already had six attempts on my life.   They have failed  so
far.

Ms. CABOT: They're very bad at their magic.

Mr. MARQUIS: I know people - [crosstalk]

Mr. STREIBER: They're [unintelligible] but they missed him.

WINFREY: We'll be back.

     [Commercial break.]

Mr. STREIBER: Oprah, you think you can grab the show back from us?

WINFREY: I don't know why I even came here today. Yes?

Mr. MARQUIS: Oprah, there was a book that was published by Dr. Raymond Buckley
[?]. It's called _Practical Candle Burning_. It will show you how, as a witch,
you can use ceremonies with candles to cast spells.  Now,  that will be on the
left  side of whatever page you're looking at.  Now,  if you look on the right
hand side of the page,  you'll see how they're going to tell you,  you can use
the Holy Scriptures to cast spells.

Mr. STREIBER: Now, wait a minute. Let's ask, who exactly wrote this book?

Mr. MARQUIS:  As  a  matter of fact,   how does that equate with what  God  is
telling  us with witchcraft?  God said that thou shalt not suffer a  witch  to
live. That was back then. Nowadays -

Ms. CABOT: No, it didn't say that. I know what the original scripture said.

Mr. MARQUIS:  As a matter of fact,   the punishment back then was  stoning  to
death.

Mr. LARSON: You're going to tell us what the Bible says? [crosstalk] What does
it say?

Ms. CABOT: King James, thou shalt not suffer a poisoner to live in Greek.

Mr. LARSON: And what does it say in Revelations Number One about - [crosstalk]

WINFREY: One at a time.

Ms. CABOT:  -  and added the word "witch"  so that he could hang and burn  and
torch them. You can make use of any word -

Mr. MARQUIS: She knows a different Greek than - [crosstalk]

WINFREY: One at a time. Yes?

Mr. MARQUIS:   She said it was from the Greek.  The scripture quotation I just
said comes from the Hebrew. It's not Greek. As a matter of fact - [crosstalk]

Ms. RUFFNER:  Oh,  here you go.  How many people here speak Hebrew?   How many
people -

Mr. MARQUIS: As a matter of fact, you will find it -

WINFREY: One at a time. I'm going to commercial. Forget it.

     [Commercial break.]

WINFREY: Bob, your position is what? We should fear them, we should -

Mr. LARSON: Absolutely. I have absolutely no fear of this person, any hexes or
spells or anything.

Ms. CABOT: Good, because I don't do them.

Mr. LARSON:  I   think that we should understand witchcraft is based upon  the
false worship of a fallen angel who was defeated by Jesus Christ at the cross,
and  witchcraft has absolutely no power to the child of God who has been  born
again. The name of Jesus Christ is the power over witchcraft, and if anybody's
afraid about any witch anywhere,  all they've got to do is get  on their knees
and ask God for help and strength to overcome that power. Greater is Christ in
me than anything she has in her, around her or -

WINFREY: And you agree? You're in agreement?

Mr. MARQUIS:  Yes,  as a matter of fact, a  very good friend of mine,  Gilbert
Gomez,   he's  going to be working with me and my pastor.  We're going  to  be
trying  to form some type of outreach for these people who sincerely want out.
As  a  matter of fact,  I  couldn't agree with this man more because  he  jsut
stated exactly what the Holy Scriptures just said. Witchcraft is a threat.

WINFREY: Okay. You say, however?

Ms. CABOT:  I  say that we are loving people,  we are not a threat.  We  don't
believe in Satan, we don't have their devils. And we don't do things that way.
If  people would like to understand us more,  we've been in the dark so  long,
we're trying to help explain what we are and we're trying to be open about it.
I  have a newsletter called _The Witch's Companion_.  If people want to  write
for it,  they can do that, and then maybe they can begin to understand.  We're
not trying to recruit anybody either.

WINFREY: Okay. Thank you all. It's been interesting.      
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Marquis making outrageous claims about the late Sharon Tate, and Charles Manson on the June 24, 1987 Oprah Winfrey program



                                                 

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Youtube Playlist of Marquis. Search for more if interested.  This should be enough to satisfy anyone.