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TradCatKnight: False Traditionalist Fixation With “Buildings”

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False Traditionalist Fixation With “Buildings”
 
 
 
They have the buildings we have the Faith”

So you have finally come to understand that Vatican II is not Catholic and that the New Mass is illicit/schismatic and must be avoided.  Now what?  It is the same as it always has been.  It is time to keep the Faith.  How many of you have run into these false traditionalist types who keep trying to portray you as having “left the Church” (for not going into Vatican II buildings) when in the very least these people are abominable compromisers?  Do not let your heart be troubled is heard from on high.  St Athanasius and the Saints of all time are with you and not these false traditionalists.  I have come to the conclusion that these types are so “fundamentalist” that “wherever” there is a building marked Catholic (they would say) is a building in good favor with God.  They would have you believe that this is a building you “could or ought” be attending.  It is of such people you ought avoid as Archbishop Lefebvre truly taught.  Sadly the Neo-SSPX and its false traditionalist apologists do not follow the principles of Archbishop Lefebvre.  Heck, Bishop Fellay within this past year could not even get basic doctrine down on the Jews.  It seems to get worse and worse every day in the so called “traditionalist” movement.  However, my good friends, let us take a look again at what St. Athanasius has to say and apply it to our times.  We cannot approach doubtful Sacraments (per canon law) and we certainly cannot go into buildings teaching the Vatican II New Religion.  Our modernist crisis is worse than the Arian crisis yet why do these false traditionalists persist in their fundamentalist ways?
 
 The “Conciliar Church is heretical and schismatic already (materially)

False Trads Equate Faith with “Buildings” marked as “Catholic”.  Rome has lost the Faith cried Archbishop Lefebvre in the late 1980’s yet why do these false traditionalists still see the Faith being there (generally speaking)?  They will argue in such simpleton fashion that “because these individuals were baptized Catholic” this is a place one can attend (to commune with).  This is beyond ludcaris.  Just because the building says it is Catholic on the outside does not mean that the Faith is being kept on the inside.  Since Vatican II does not represent our faith and since the false traditionalists including the NeoSSPX now accept it (formally) what is a Catholic to do?  We have given up altogether it seems and now have labeled Cardinal Burke as the “measure of orthodoxy”.  Have you seen these false traditionalists sites like the official SSPX page, the Remnant, Onepeterfive and the rest?  Clearly they do not see with the eyes of an eagle.   They are not calling for any kind of conversion of the neo-conservative Cardinals (because they are neo cons themselves) but rather have joined in on the novel pseudo trad ecumenical movement.  Catholics cannot do this.  What good are the buildings if they do not espouse the Faith?  The problem with these groups and their apologists is that they are blind and cannot see.  Many of them have eyes pulled by economics.  Do not let fear overtake you the Faith resides in your heart and Jesus has chosen it to be a Temple to keep His Faith.

 

Cannot leave the buildings until heresy is formally declared?  This has to be the most idiotic attempt within the false traditionalist movement to keep good catholics trapped in heretical and/or compromising Catholics.  When I refuted John Salza (no response on his end) with the precedence established in the Church (over the Arian crisis) we see clearly the “buildings” don’t matter if the Faith is not there. There was no condemnation by the Church for those who wouldn’t partake in the Arian heresy (or compromisers as evidenced down below).  They did not stay inside the buildings because the buildings were unfaithful and displeasing to Jesus.  As I have mentioned alot of websites and apologists are trying to make a name for themselves and at the same time trying to make money in this crisis.  We must be careful of these clever wolves who are not properly applying Catholic teaching but twisting it to their own fundamentalist belief structure.  You have not left the Church for what precedes one “having left the Church” would be you first leaving the Faith!  Who has left the Faith then (objectively speaking)?  Those following the Vatican II Novus Ordo Religion or us?  The answer is them of course.

 

You are not being nice.   This is a question of Faith I don’t care what label you give me.  Perhaps you are so lukewarm you hide behind this argument.  Quit the act of saying this priest or Cardinal is “holy” when they are openly teaching Vatican II and in some cases persistently denouncing the true Resistance.  Your niceness has a good possibility of you losing your own soul.  Only the proper norm of Faith pleases God and this does not describe Vatican II’s new man centered Faith.  Our Lord is not interested in “niceness” He is interested in faithfulness.  I would rather have on my side a “pit bull” Catholic not willing to compromise than a sugary coated “Catholic” who consistently does not want to keep this fight on the level of doctrine.
 
 True Resistance types not welcomed on websites like Onepeterfive, the Remnant and others
We wont lose sleep over it:)

Socially acceptable?  Social media plays a large role in the continued destruction of the Faith.  I have already mentioned several false traditionalist sites and apologists but the list goes on and on.  They keep people trapped in this “cyclone of compromise and error”  because they believe they have a suitable social media clique.  The same lam arguments keep coming in in discussion with them and I can easily point them out as having come from this group.  Trust me I have been doing this for many years so I know how they operate and how deceptive they are.  Archbishop Lefebvres true position is not welcomed and its replaced by the incompetent apologists who continually try to make it appear they are following Lefebvre or they were a true friend of his.  It is complete rubbish.  Lefebvre, if still alive, would have booted most of the priesthood out of the Society for the new direction it has taken.  Be ye encourage the trend is homes, dens and barns not buildings.  So what, if you are “banned” from the Remnant’s or OnePeterfive’s page, for trying to speak some sense into them, because you shouldn’t be on their page in the first place.  They are the ones who need to get their act together not us.  

 

 

St. Athanasius:

“May God console you! … What saddens you … is the fact that others have occupied the churches by violence, while during this timeyou are on the outside. It is a fact that they have the premises – but you have the Apostolic FaithThey can occupy our churches, but they are outside the true Faith. You remain outside the places of worship, but the Faith dwells within you. Let us consider: what is more important, the place or the Faith? The true Faith, obviously. Who has lost and who has won in the struggle – the one who keeps the premises or the one who keeps the Faith? True, the premises are good when the Apostolic Faith is preached there; they are holy if everything takes place there in a holy way …
“You are the ones who are happy; you who remain within the Church by your Faith, who hold firmly to the foundations of the Faith which has come down to you from Apostolic Tradition. And if an execrable jealousy has tried to shake it on a number of occasions, it has not succeeded. They are the ones who have broken away from it in the present crisis. No one, ever, will prevail against your Faith, beloved Brothers. And we believe that God will give us our churches back some day.
Thus, the more violently they try to occupy the places of worship, the more they separate themselves from the Church. They claim that they represent the Church; but in reality, they are the ones who are expelling themselves from it and going astray
 

TCK:

Who are the others?  Answer those following Vatican II (modernists)
Who is really on the “outside” Answer:  Those following Vatican II
When will God give us back our churches?  Answer: when people quit compromising that includes these false traditionalists
Does the fact that they are baptized Catholic have anything to do with us trying to be in those churches? Answer: No they continue on teaching the New Religion and supporting its new mass they are objectively speaking displeasing to God
 
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