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Why Is Obama Charging You For Nuke Plant Costing Higher Energy Bills Than Solar?

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“If nuclear power is such a good idea, why does it need financial help from every U.S. taxpayer?” is a question many Americans and even the Washington Post are asking this week. Even more would ask that question and demand better if they knew the new nuke facility will cost more in energy bills than had the same money funded solar energy.

This week, Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz announced Obama’s administration would extend a $6.5 billion federal loan guarantee to cover partial cost of building two new reactors at Southern Co.’s Alvin W. Vogtle site. The total cost of the facility, that Georgians have fought for years to prevent, is $14 billion.

The announcement by Obama’s Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz that his agency has approved a multibillion-dollar taxpayer-backed loan guarantee for the first nuclear reactors to be built in the U.S. in over 30 years “should be viewed as a costly act of desperation for a failing project,” says anti-nuclear group Public Citizen.

Thursday, Obama’s nuke czar went to Waynesboro, Ga. to finalize the deal. Another $1.8 billion in guarantees could come soon. He might not have had a warm southern hospitality welcome, if one group of women are involved.

Bobbie Paul of the Georgia Women’s Action for New Directions (WAND), seen in the photograph above, has been one of dozens of women who’ve been protesting the nuclear facility for years. 

The impact? Washington Post describes it like this: Southern’s Georgia Power subsidiary, that owns 46 percent of the project, will save $225 million to $250 million [lucky ducks] because the loan guarantee will reduce interest costs. Instead of borrowing from a commercial bank, Southern can now borrow at rock bottom rates from the government’s Federal Financing Bank.

“And you, gentle reader, the taxpayer, take on all the risk if the project goes bust. Does the name Solyndra ring a bell?”

Southern also gets help from the federal production tax credit and other federal incentives, ultimately saving the corporation another $2 billion or so, Southern’s chief executive Tom Fanning said  on Jan. 29 in conference call about earnings.

But wait. There’s more, generous reader with deep pockets.

The company also says it’ll pass along the savings in financing costs to Georgia electricity ratepayers, but those ratepayers are already footing a large chunk of the reactors’ construction costs.

Usually ratepayers only pay those costs when a nuclear generating station is operating, not while it’s being built.

In December, however, Georgia Public Service Commission approved a three-year plan to spread out $465 million in rate increases, according to Wells Fargo Securities analysts.

Customer rates, when the units are in service, will rise 6 to 8 percent, less than the 12 percent increase originally projected for capital costs.

The Vogtle loan guarantee had been conditionally approved by the Obama administration four years ago, and Southern is already well into construction — although it’s running about 21 months behind schedule, according to anti-nuclear group Public Citizen. The reactors are Westinghouse AP1000 models, a new generation reactor.

Wells Fargo last month lowered its earnings outlook for Southern, citing “construction risk” from the nuclear reactors as well as a modern coal plant under construction — and over budget — in Mississippi. Now that risk belongs to all of us.

This technology, continuing to be fraught with safety issues and producing toxic wastes for which there is no solution – is “hardly a technology the government should be promoting and propping up with taxpayer funds,” Publican Citizen says.

“No doubt, this is a bad deal for the American people who have been put on the hook for a project that is both embroiled in delays and cost overruns and to a company that has publicly stated that it does not need federal loans to complete the project.

“This is a classic case of throwing good money after bad – an unnecessary and unconscionable decision to make with taxpayer money.”

What if Obama had chosen renewable energy instead?

A new solar farm in Pennsylvanuia is to cost $4.17/watt.

The Vogtle nuclear facility in Georgia will cost $6.36/watt.

The nuclear facility will cost far more to run, is dangerous, will produce radioactive wate that will take hundreds of thousands of years to decay, and will cost billions to decommission.

The solar plant is not dangerous. It will produce no nuclear waste. As its parts wear out, they can mostly be recycled and replaced for continuous operation.

By the way, if WAND women, such as those peace workers in Arkansas, think Hillary Clinton would be any better at saying no to nukes and other programs not in the best interest of the public, think again.

Remember, Hillary’s the one as Secretary of State who made a secret pact with Japan after Fukushima was irradiating seafood, to continue importing that food to the United States, so it was bound to end up on your family dinner tables.

[See: Radiating Americans: Fukushima rain, Clinton's secret food pact]

We need to think bigger than nuclear and Hillary, as the video below shows is not only possible, but here now.

Sources: Washington Post, Public Citizen, Wand Georgia Chapter



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    • paul brown

      Solar and wind have become less expensive than fossil fuels and nuclear, and energy storage technology is advancing very rapidly. We shouldn’t be building ANY new nuclear or fossil fuel plants, and as storage technology comes on line, we need to shut down the ones we have.

      Sadly, we have to rescue the nuke and fossil villains who have opposed renewable energy because they constitute a major fraction of the world’s economy. There are reasonable ways to do that, as well as compensate mineral rights owners who are currently getting royalties.

      • Mayhem

        Solar and wind, huh? Lets go then, Dr Brown. Generating electricity from Solar radiation, given current technology, hardly produces enough to cover the carbon footprint of making the panels let alone their installation or maintenance. Wind farms are being abandoned in swathes and are well known to provide a negative return on investment irrespective they don’t even produce enough electricity to cover their own carbon footprint. In fact they pollute like crazy and hardly make enough to cover maintenance.

        • Deborah Dupre

          Thanks for visiting here – but oh my, what absurdities. Maybe it’s your kind of thinking that’s prevented renewable energy here – unlike in other countries, progressive and democratic ones, going totally renewable. How do you think they’re doing that if the tech does not exist? What you’re writing is just false, to put it lightly.

          Surely this isn’t a case of the US being too ignorant to work it out. The fact is that the tech is available here now.

        • Neanderthal

          Hmmm my power company informed me that I was using 753 kilowatts a month, by the end of march I will be producing 12500 kilowatts a day, Solar and wind. At that point the gas water heater will hit the trash and electric it will be from them on. I hate paying for things that I do not have to.

        • Mayhem

          Well Deborah would you care to argue? This is but one example and i can provide more until credibility is a pointless contention. I do not say the tech doesn’t exist only that it is not economically viable and therefore unsustainable.

          http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/05/10/the-faults-fallacies-and-failures-of-wind-power/

    • Anonymous

      because he’s a Demo_rat?
      Solar is the best choice it’s just the little “storage” problem, if some smart people got
      onto some bean bags they could solve it. I already did solve the problem all by myself.
      No one wants too help me…

      • Deborah Dupre

        Thank you. Hope you find support for your project. Solar is being used quite successfully in some places in the US – but far more so in progressive, more democratic and less violent nations.

        Take heart: In the month of Jan., 100% of new energy businesses in the US were renewable ones. Why? Because more people are demanding it and it’s more efficient.

    • paul brown

      Readers: Mayhem and this particular Anonymous are fossil fuel trolls who are stalking Ms Dupre in order to harass her and deceive you about the relative value of fossil vs renewable energy. Their lies are pretty transparent if you look at them carefully. Every single thing they say in their comments are flat lies, which is why renewable energy is growing faster than fossil fuels or nuclear: Renewable power trumps fossil fuels for first time (November, 2011), http://articles.latimes.com/2011/nov/25/business/la-fi-renewables-20111125; http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-15/bp-sees-renewables-outpacing-fossil-fuels-eclipsing-nuclear.html.
      These trolls are paid by the polluters to deceive the public, whereas there is very little funding to counter them. That’s why it’s important for readers to come down hard on them. I can’t do it alone because they have all the time in the world to keep putting forth their lies. So this is my last response to them on this page. Ethical readers must call them on their lies and let them know they’re not getting away with it.
      Oh, and I’m not a Democrat or Republican. They’re just two branches of a single party. Readers should look for candidates with proven track records working for the people instead of the corporations or run for office themselves.

      • Omega Files

        They are not ‘trolls’. That argument is a pathetic way to accept argumentative defeat.

        • paul brown

          Au contraire, I won the argument by demonstrating them wrong. Everything they have said on previous articles has been refuted as well. That’s enough to demonstrate what they are. There’s a point where it’s no longer worth continuing because they have been demonstrated to be liars.

        • paul brown

          By the way, you three always show up quickly and work together. Not a coincidence, readers.

        • paul brown

          Oh, my. I just checked out who you are. Clearly an expert on matters of technology and science. Readers, look what he writes:
          Spiritual Warfare: The Transhumanist Manifesto 829
          To Prophecy on Wednesday Feb 12 2014 17:13
          Strange Flesh: As the Days of Noah Were 2009
          To Prophecy on Wednesday Feb 12 2014 14:19
          Prophecy in Stone: 2012 – 2020? 1512
          To Prophecy on Wednesday Feb 12 2014 13:34
          Santa’s Clause: Requiem for a Pole Shift? 1007
          To Prophecy on Wednesday Feb 12 2014 13:03
          Nephilim: The Devils Wear Prada 2099
          To Prophecy on Wednesday Feb 12 2014 11:45

          I’m sure some BIN readers actually take this seriously. Very sad.

        • Omega Files

          “By the way, you three always show up quickly and work together. Not a coincidence, readers.”

          Well aren’t you observant? Good for you. You recognize that I know Mayhem. That would also suggest that I know what I am talking about when I tell you that he is not a troll. If he says something, he believes it.

          If you are too lazy to read my articles then you have no right to poke fun. I’ve seen you debate before. InLikeFlint has made you look like a fool on numerous occasions.

          The only thing that is sad is your tendency to deflect negative attention by using petty insults.

        • Omega Files
        • Omega Files

          “These trolls are paid by the polluters to deceive the public”

          He who smelt it dealt it

      • Mayhem

        Look Doctor it’s not you i’m arguing against it is the erroneous claims that you posit. Consider that you merely struggle with my pompous tone and know it all attitude. I will gladly debate you and am prepared to examine any evidence you may put forward. This is not an invitation to swamp us with excessive literature. Make a point, try to be concise and enlighten your readers.

        To use the term “growing faster” in relation to your religion shows how feeble your synapses are. We well know that the newest religion is always the fastest growing. As soon as they go from one convert to two they’ve experienced triple digit growth. I scoff at this sort of mathematical cartwheeling.

        Your first link is an LA Times opinion piece that states that for the first time investment in renewable energy out stripped fossil fuels. The key words being ‘investment in’. Yay! I can’t wait till the energy generated does the same thing but we are nowhere near that point. Heck we haven’t even addressed the stability issues that center around having more than 20% generation coming from weather variable resources. We’ve spent staggering sums but how does this prove AGW?

        The same thing goes for your second link, now that i’ve read it. Listen up buddy; you’re on the right track my man just don’t cling so dearly to the doctrine of men regardless how vested you are. What’s a PhD worth? I got paid to get my welding certificate straight out of High School.

        • Mayhem

          You may continue in ad hominem while i resent your accusations regarding my manners and try to puzzle out what you could possibly mean by “who are stalking Ms Dupre in order to harass her and deceive”. You may not take away my rights and i survive here on my wit and merit alone.

          There will be many folk reading these debates who would not hesitate in taking me to task should i stray. I don’t know what these folk see when they read Deborah’s threads but the conceit in me reckons her they take off with my contribution. I’d hazard she’d not be minding a bit.

          You make me reveal my sin to my shame, despicable.

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