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 Dave in Fla
Thursday, 08 November 2012
“Dave in Fla” runs the DiF Poll Analysis website
Posted for TPATH November 10, 2012

We are being asked to believe that Romney got close to three million fewer votes in 2012 than John McCain got in 2008.

That’s not possible. 
 This election is a fraud. 

I don’t know exactly how – rigging voting machines, hacking tabulation software, whatever. What I do know is that it is totally beyond inevitability and into the realm of ridiculously absurd that Romney actually got any fewer votes than McCain in 2008, much less millions fewer.

I hate going down a conspiracy road, but yes I believe the election was stolen, and the implications of that are very bad. First of all, Obama received 10 million less votes than he did in 2008. The part that is unbelievable is that Romney received 3 million less votes than McCain. At the end of the day, Obama won in the 4 critical swing states by 500,000 votes. But it is worse than that. We can look at who voted.

 By examining the number of Independents and their preference shift among actual voters, we know that 5 million Independents changed their votes from Obama to Romney. So Romney started the day 2.5 million votes ahead of where McCain was in 2008.


This means that 5.5 million Republican
voters are not accounted for. 

They didn’t show up at the polls, or their votes were not counted. We know now that no subgroup of the coalition decided to sit out. So the current attempts to blame the Social Conservatives are stupid. All of our groups showed up to vote at the rates they did in 2008. For this to be true, over 10% of Republicans needed to decide not to vote this year, who did vote in 2008.


Does that make any sense?

In fact, it is even worse, we know for a fact that heavy GOP counties were swamped all day. We watched all day as, e.g., Pasco County Florida was showing huge increases in GOP voters over the 2008 numbers. In Virginia, with 69% of the precincts in, Romney held a 6% lead. Yet once a small number of counties reported, that lead disappeared. If the vote drop off occurred, it occurred in a very small number of counties. It was not visible nationwide. I contend that you can not get a 10% drop off in GOP turnout without it being noticeable during the GOTV effort, measures of enthusiasm in polling, or visibly lower turnout in GOP leaning precincts.

For anyone who doesn’t want to think that the Obama campaign would engage in such blatant election fraud, contemplate this.

 These are the same people who ran Fast and Furious without regard for the cost in human lives, turned off their credit card verification system to allow fraudulent donations, and allowed four Americans in Libya to die because it was politically inconvenient.

Do you really think that massive election fraud is something they wouldn’t do? If this is true, then we have some hard things to consider.

First of all, we are now needlessly fracturing our coalition pointing fingers at people for not voting.

Second, we are making an assumption about the make up of the American public that is not true.

We are going to modify our party and message to appeal to a group of individuals who do not represent the majority of the population.

Most difficult to believe is that we are living in Venezuela where our elections are merely for show, and the people in charge of the Governments decide who will win elections. We become wards of the State, which is the aim of those who stole this election.

So how can this be proved? I am going to start by looking at a few key counties in Florida. What I want to see is the voter registration numbers by party, and then compare them to the actual votes received. Theoretically, if this were to be done for all counties in Florida, we could see where the fraud occurred. Comparing the votes Romney received to the strike lists would show that in specific counties Romney received something like 50% of the Republican vote (picking a number out of the air) while we know that nationwide he received 95% of the Republican vote. To really get to the answer, we would need to get the registration books, which might be possible through Freedom of Information act.
Those show who actually voted, by name, and their party. The media will not pursue this. This will take citizen journalists working in every state. 

This letter was sent to TPATH yesterday.  It has all the points most of us have been thinking.  Let’s hope Dave in Florida is successful with his several county analysis.

November 10, 2012 TPATH  

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    • Anonymous

      By your own numbers, there are 12 million less voters in this election than the last. I think most of those ARE Republicans and Independents. I also believe that the Obama camp and the DNC were very effective at getting grassroot “Get out the Vote” campaigns to get minorities and lower income people to vote by offering the free healthcare, tax the rich, and other election propaganda. I know the hispanics are in a position to get “payback” for voting in favor of Obama and many of the hispanic groups are asking for the “goods”.

      In light of this, I believe Obama won by the electorate and getting the most votes of those that were cast. I also think many conservatives overestimate Romney’s popularity as he doesn’t really appeal to the lower income voters. They view him as a Richie Rich. Oh, and he’s mormon, too. I think that scares people.

      • True News

        All good points, but there are several other anomalies that need further investigation. Because there are about 400,000 votes that determined the election, it doesn’t take a huge amount of votes to “tip the balance”. There are a number of counties in states like CO that had more people registered to vote than living there. In PA, many precincts had 99+% of the voters selecting Obama, that kind of voting result is usually only seen in dictatorships with one person running for office. Then there are the missing military absentee ballots and the people who vote multiple times or are not qualified to vote. It all adds up.

        • Louis

          Of course Obama stole the election by fraud and deceit. That’s what pathological egotists do. But the real question is why hasn’t Romney made a stink about it?

          Could it be that the entire election was one big giant hoax from beginning to end with megabucks Romney as a willing accomplice?

        • Patriot

          I wonder how many votes for ROmney there (potentially) were…among all those military personnel who were not allowed to vote.

      • Old Harry

        I agree with your analysis and conclusion. Good to have comments like yours. Thanks.

      • Anonymous

        Hey anony; which would you rather voet for a confirmed mormon or a lying muslim

      • EuroTrader

        Yeah . . . it has to be fraud because, well, a Democrat just couldn’t have beaten a Republican flat-out, huh? Maybe Romney got fewer votes than McCain because Romney stood for nothing.

        The people who own the voting machine companies are Republicans. The people who controlled the elections in the “disputed” states are Republicans.

        1. DENIAL.
        2. Anger
        3. Bargaining
        4. Depression
        5. Acceptance

        Most cannot get past #1.

        All I hope is that this election helps our country start working together instead of “red” versus “blue;” “democrat” versus “republican;” black versus white versus brown; “rich” versus “poor;” etc. while Wall Street and Banksters continue to steal the treasure of a nation.

        • Anonymous

          Nice sediment, now stop doing crank…..
          I didn’t vote for either of the clowns put up (no choice) but when in Ohio the “O” gets 108% of the possible votes… that is fraud… and if you are saying get over it then you are:
          1: Bent metaphysically
          2. stupid
          3. part of the problem
          4 a registered democrat (2+3=4)
          5 clinically dead (not an uncommon status for democrat voters)
          6 A Standard Republican (spineless+ clueless = Boehner )
          7 all the above.

      • Equalizer

        BS – this election is a clear sign of the deception of the so called “American” freedom of choice by the elite.
        Fact: Americans got screwed. We deserve what is about to unfold in this country. Good luck sheeple.

    • Bubba the Ky Headhunter

      And it just may be that voters like myself have seen the ugly side of the GOP. Meaning the way that Ron Paul was treated in the primaries along with the others. I am not so much a supporter of Dr. Paul, but, I truly hate to see any candidate rail roaded by the powers that be. Just my 2 cents on it as an independent voter.

      • Simply Me

        Ron Paul should never have tried to run on the Republican ticket when he is NOT a Republican. That was his first mistake.

    • KMap

      And do you think Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan will do ANYTHING about it? Hell, Romney couldn’t get out there to concede the election fast enough — even while these crazy votes were still being counted!! Or Mitch McConnell, or John Boehner? Nope, Boehner came out almost right away to declare that now, “Obamacare is the law of the land.” The bottom line is that by their silence, if not by active agreement, they’re ALL complicit in it!! This is all proof that this was the agreement from the start, Obama gets reelected and the Repubs get to keep the House. Watch and see how few Repubs will draw up the courage to actually do anything about this.

      So if this election proves anything, anything at all, it is that ELECTIONS NO LONGER MATTER. There is no ‘political solution,’ going out and voting, digging into your own pockets to give money, making calls, ringing doorbells, it’s all a worthless waste of time and money, a distraction designed to part you from a few dollars more while keeping you from looking behind the Republicrat curtain of cowardly corruption.

      • Anonymous

        Exactly.Allen West is contesting the vote in West Palm Beach because he knows that it was a fraud and he cares about representing the people.Mitt went back to his house and did backstrokes in his money room.Barry,Kerry,Cheney,Romney,Bush, … cousins.Don’t you get it?They are the same family!

        • KMap

          Indeed. For most of the players, this election was never about an election. It was about suckering Americans across the political spectrum into taking SIX BILLION DOLLARS out of their own pockets and giving it to the puppetmasters of the Republicrat duopoly. The outcome may very well have been fixed from the start; the only reason it was made to appear ‘close’ was because that drives people to ‘donate.’ Never forget this: campaign ‘donations’ to EITHER major party are a form of fleecing, a tax levied through fear and deception!!

    • Xcori8r

      I think that early voting and electronic voting gave ample time and opportunity for the criminals to lever the fraud that motor voter and no ID allows. If that is the case we are hopelessly screwed.
      On the other hand, if the election was honest and represents the intentions of a majority of the country we are hopelessly screwed as well.

    • Dumbed Down

      ” Just Thinking”, While at the dollar store, gas station, and w_ _mart, I really havent seen 50 % of the shoppers gleeful with joy that whats his name got re-elected. Could it be, because he did not get their vote, and they are in shock that he won ???? Did he win ??? Are YOU sure ??? Is something funny going on ??? Does Amerika live in Reality ???

    • Gojiroiscoming

      “That’s not possible.
      This election is a fraud.

      I don’t know exactly how ”

      Thats basically the sum of this article. Didnt like the result, must be fraud. Maybe Romney was not as appealing to moderates as McCain was, who was known as the maverick moderate of the Republican party. Let’s not also forget the Sarah Palin women voters.

      That explains why less people voted Romney than Obama. The GOP failed to capture the moderates and women, who all broke towards Obama.

    • wvbowhunter

      What else would you expect from a president who is a community organizer?

    • BeastLee

      lol this guy keeps copying and pasteing this… it doesnt even make sense….

      nice copy paste…. brainwashed fool…

    • HereAmI

      You’ve heard the word nightmare.
      You’re living in it.
      Ain’t no way out.

    • guadaloupi

      The people of Iceland forced their corrupt government to resign.
      A public assembly was created to rewrite the constitution.
      The banks were nationalized, it was decided not to pay the debt that PRIVATE banks created.

      Congress under the Articles of Confederation did not reconvene and authorize the change to our foundational Republican Form of Government as written in the Articles of Confederation. In order for Congress to have brought forward this purported constitution for the United States, Congress would have had to convene under the Articles of Confederation by authority of the people in assembly on their respective counties, and vote unanimously to change the foundational form of Government. This never happened making any subsequent purported changes outside this foundational requirement, a nullity in Law;

      “Every American will be forced to register or suffer not being able to work and earn a living. They will be our chattel, and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions. Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of lading to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, forever to remain economic slaves through taxation, secured by their pledges. They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value designed to make us a profit and they will be none the wiser, for not one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident one or two would figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible deniability.
      We will employ the high office of the President of our dummy corporation to foment this plot against America.” Edward Mandell House

    • Anonymous

      Of course Mitt got fewer votes then John. John was a proper candidate, a decent man, not some cult following, tea party backed extremist like Mitt.

      • Pateriot

        Virtually no one who voted for McCain wouldn’t have voted for Mitt. After 4 years of Obama in office they would have been far MORE likely to vote against Obama by voting for Mitt, even if they didn’t like Romney! Add to this the Millions who voted for Obama last time but were so disenchanted with him this time around that they didn’t this time. A fair amount of them would have also voted for Mitt… say 10-20% with the rest either staying home or voting third party. Where it is possible that Romney could have legitmately lost the election, there is just NO WAY that Romney got less votes this time than McCain did in 2008!!! Something stinks!

        • Anonymous

          Yes something stinks here and the stench is getting overpowering

    • Wonkadelica

      Remember 2000 and the eight years of pure idiocy that followed? Karma is such a bitch, ain’t it? We feel your pain!

      :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :cool:

    • Anonymous

      Lets not forgtet, Obama didn’t win ONE STATE which required voter ID…hum

    • common law private attorney general Chris

      This was LEFT Wing’s REVENGE for Bush GORE and the Hanging CHAD Fiasco!

      • Banderman

        Revenge is a dish best served cold. Voting or cheating for the Obama re-election is not only the dumbest thing liberals have ever done, it is clearly the most childish. Voting out of ‘spite’ is abnormal behavior best reserved for abject morons.

    • thk

      I know this election was a fraud. I voted in Escambia County FL, three days before the election and I had to wait in line for 1/2 hour. All in line were Romney supporters. When I voted in 08, I was in and out in minutes. Everyone I know in many different states told me the same thing. Conservatives DID show up in huge numbers no matter what the “results” showed.

      • Pateriot

        I beleive that there were many cases of voter fraud, those not eligible voting, people voting twice, the dead voting, etc. However all of these wouldn’t have accounted for the widespread and dramatic Democratic win in this election. It would have to have been on a larger scale when all of the votes were sent in and tallied, not cast.

    • Anonymous

      Is Nate Silver in on the conspiracy because he predicted Obama had an 86.3% chance of winning the election? It’s really fishy that Nate was accurate on the outcome of all 50 states! Nate said that what he did was simple and he could show anyone how to do it. What about the two university professors that built a model for the electoral college, that predicted every election correctly since 1980; they predicted an Obama landslide. The truth is that politicians are crooked but on top of that, the GOP are really stupid and arrogant. Blaming the Democrats for stealing the election, is just not going to wash. The incredibly obvious conclusion is that the GOP don’t give a damn about the electorate and it shows and that is why they lost. Sometimes 1 + 1 =2.

      • ManFromMcKavett

        Dear Anonymous: Obama won because he & his admisnistration have spent the last 4 years hard at work creating an entitlement electorate-People want the government to meet all their needs & do it for free-Obama is their man-He ran on that ’cause he couldn’t run on his dismal record of failure ! How else can a president that has doubled our national deficit, has 23 million unemployed, gas prices over $3 a gallon compared to $1.86 when he took office, turns down the Keystone pipeline which would have created 12 million new jobs & greatly reduced the price of a gallon of gasoline AND HE GETS RE-ELECTED !!!???!!! No good buddy, Obama did not win because of anything the GOP did or did not do-He won because people voted for entitlements over substance, pure & simple as that !!!! 19,500 votes in 1 district of Philly & Romney got not one single vote ??? Really ?? Obama got 100% of votes in other areas, (really ??!!??) thousands of military votes that weren’t counted (& won’t be) early votes that never got to a vote counting location ! 2 thousand yrs. ago, Aristotle (or was it Socrates) said: “It is isn’t the voter that counts, its the vote counter that counts.” Just so happens, George Soros, multi-billionaire, that loves Obama, bought the company in Spain that made the machines that counted all the votes- “_ _ _ its the vote counter that counts !!” Come on, free cell phones, free condoms, free birth contol pills. free abortions, drawing unemployment benefits & you’re not even required to look for work, yet you still qualify to draw benefits ?? Color me clueless Bubba-This generation is living off the government, their kids will do the same & so will their kids & so will their kids – Thanks for being so damned lazy you don’t even want to look for work, much less actually do it !!!! When all the laws of Obamacae have kicked in, those same folks will quickly discover that by simply being a dumb ass they have kicked their own dumb ass !! Well good on ya !!!!! — There are many things that are dificult to do, but there is one thing that simply can’t be done and that is: You simply can’t help a person that doesn’t want to be helped !! Tis a pity & a shame indeed, what our nation has come to !!!! As my brothers say: Is there no help for the widow’s son ?

    • Rick Carufel

      “By examining the number of Independents and their preference shift among actual voters, we know that 5 million Independents changed their votes from Obama to Romney. So Romney started the day 2.5 million votes ahead of where McCain was in 2008.”
      Voodoo Statistics based on wild assumptions. Just another whining Republican’t loser who can’t understand how this country could have RE-ELECTED a black man as president. The inbred bigotry just can’t grasp to concept that Romney was a loser from the gate regardless of the hype.

      • Patrick Henry

        I guess you didn’t get the memo. Playing the race card is for ignorant doofusses who are too shallow and lack the intellect to discuss intelligent principles.

    • spoton

      Ask Hillary if Obama wouldn’t do it. The ends always justify the means! In Nevada, Obama supporters upturned a wheelchair-bound woman who wanted to caucus for Hillary, flushed Clinton ballots down the toilets, and told union members they could vote only if their names were on the list of Obama supporters.
      In Texas, more than 2,000 Clinton and Edwards supporters filed complaints with the state Democratic Party because of the massive fraud. The party acknowledged that the Obama campaign’s actions “amount to criminal violations” and ordered them to be reported to state and federal law enforcement, but nothing happened.
      In caucus after caucus, Obama bused in supporters from out of state, intimidated elderly voters and women, and stole election packets so Hillary supporters couldn’t vote. Thanks to these and other strong-arm tactics, Obama won victories in all but one of the caucuses, even in states such as Maine where Hillary had been leading by double digits in the polls.
      Obama’s win in the caucuses, which were smaller events than the primaries and were run by the party, not the states, gave him the margin of victory he needed to win a razor-thin majority in the delegate count going into the Democratic National Convention.
      Without these caucus wins, which Long and others claim were based on fraud, Clinton would be the Democrats’ nominee running against John McCain.
      Citing a detailed report on the voting results and delegate accounts by accountant Piniel Cronin,“there were only four pledged delegates between Hillary and Obama once you discount caucus fraud,” Long said.
      Dr. Long has compiled many of these eyewitness reports from the 14 caucus states in a 98-page, single-spaced report and in an interactive Web site: .
      *ACORN involvement*
      The Obama campaign recently admitted that it paid an affiliate of ACORN, the controversial community organizer that Obama represented in Chicago, more than $832,00 for “voter turnout” work during the primaries. The campaign initially claimed the money had been spent on “staging, sound and light” and “advance work.”
      State and federal law enforcement in 11 states are investigating allegations of voter registration fraud against the Obama campaign. ACORN workers repeatedly registered voters in the name of “Mickey Mouse,” and registered the entire starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys twice: once in Nevada, and again in Minnesota.
      A group that has worked with ACORN in the past registered a dead goldfish under the name “Princess Nudelman” in Illinois. When reporters informed Beth Nudelman, a Democrat, that her former pet was a registered voter, she said,“This person is a dead fish.”

    • Hombre

      If you have never read Atlas Shrugged… don’t bother. You are about to live it.

    • Anonymous


    • Nam Marine

      Gov. Romney should file charges against the Muslim! High Treason at it’s finest!

    • Patriot

      No way did fewer conservatives vote in this election.
      McCain was a puss that many GOP didn’t vote for.
      Not so with Romney. Conservatives were hyped both FOR Romney & AGAINST Obama, more than ever.

    • Bro. Steve Winter

      I felt to share this with you. I don’t know who the author is but it is kind of astounding considering Hussein Obama’s deceit and the deliberate misinformation campaigns and blatant vote fraud by the National Socialist Party (AKA Democrat party “Ignorati Liberalus”) and their attitude about Israel. You have to read to the end! – Bro. Steve Winter

      I was born in one country, raised in another. My father was born in another country.
      I was not his only child.

      He fathered several children with numerous women.

      I became very close to my mother, as my father showed no interest in me.

      My mother died at an early age from cancer.

      Although my father deserted me and my mother raised me, I later wrote a book idolizing my father not my mother.

      Later in life, questions arose over my real name.

      My birth records were sketchy.

      No one was able to produce a legitimate, reliable birth certificate.

      I grew up practicing one faith but converted to Christianity, as it was widely accepted in my new country, but I practiced non-traditional beliefs and didn’t follow Christianity, except in the public eye under scrutiny.

      I worked and lived among lower-class people as a young adult, disguising myself as someone who really cared about them.

      That was before I decided it was time to get serious about my life and embarked on a new career.

      I wrote a book about my struggles growing up.

      It was clear to those who read my memoirs, that I had difficulties accepting that my father abandoned me as a child.

      I became active in local politics in my 30′s then, with help behind the scenes, I literally burst onto the scene as a candidate for national office in my 40′s.

      They said I had a golden tongue and could talk anyone into anything.

      I had a virtually non-existent resume, little work history, and no experience in leading a single organization.

      Yet I was a powerful speaker and citizens were drawn to me, as
      jthough I were a magnet and they were small roofing tacks.

      I drew incredibly large crowds during my public appearances.

      This bolstered my ego.

      At first, my political campaign focused on my country’s foreign policy…

      I was very critical of my country in the last war, and seized every opportunity to bash my country.

      But what launched my rise to national prominence were my views on the country’s economy.

      I pretended to have a really good plan on how we could do better, and every poor person would be fed and housed for free .

      I knew which group was responsible for getting us into this mess.

      It was the free market, banks and corporations .

      I decided to start making citizens hate them and, if they became envious of others who did well, the plan was clinched tight.

      I called mine “A People’s Campaign.”

      That sounded good to all people.

      I was the surprise candidate because I emerged from outside the traditional path of politics and was able to gain widespread popular support.

      I knew that, if I merely offered the people ‘hope’, together we could change our country and the world..

      So, I started to make my speeches sound like they were on behalf of the downtrodden, poor, ignorant to include “persecuted minorities”.

      My true views were not widely known and I kept them unknown, until after I became my nation’s leader.

      I had to carefully guard reality, as anybody could have easily found out what I really believed, if they had simply read my writings and examined those people I associated with. I’m glad they didn’t.

      Then I became the most powerful man in the world.

      And then the world learned the truth.

      Who am I?






      If you were thinking of SOMEONE ELSE, you should be scared, very scared!

      See for more about an enemy of the United States becoming president.

      (Note: For our liberal readers from the Ignorati, Hitler was a bad person. Look it up for yourself.)

      Bro. Winter (A Christian website)
      PLEASE SHARE THIS with copy and paste (in its entirety if you choose to share it.)

    • nimbunje

      Just like George Bush juniors reelection -same fiddle .

    • Rosarito

      Be afraid of any data provided by FLA subversives. It MAYBE a numbers gang. The gang don’t SEEM to like the numbers, so they SEEM to utilize creative math to fool’ya.
      Don’t let’em fool ya, don’t let them school’ya!

      The numbers from the past do not have any reflection on the numbers of the present. They MAY not let your children claim the dog ate their homework, yet the FCAT is the problem? Surely can’t be their supreme being with their godlike powers.
      They MAY seek to divide a nation, but you should ask yourselves for who? For what?
      Dee-Eye-Eh should consider the “potential” correlations and how it equates to National Securete`. The subs MAYBE a foot and testing the waters.
      Donde esta air superiority threats to our nation?
      We are one; We are people of color. All colors! Go and hug your loving neighbors.
      I love each and everyone of you. Be safe. Safety MAYBE found in numbers. Numbers that love our nation.
      Carry on,
      That is all. :cool:

    • driftervii

      Florida vote tally for congressional seats by party

      (there were 2 uncontested districts, these vote totals will be added to the final tally)

      republican 3,805,855

      democrat 3,494,131

      Florida votes for president in the same districts

      Romney 3,502,413

      Obama 3,532,998

      Are we supposed to believe that 303,442 people voted for

      republican congressmen and not Mitt Romney?

      so lets say that these people did vote for Romney

      (which i find very likely),the final tally is as follows

      Romney 4,465,616

      Obama 4,236,032

      ` ROMNEY WINS !!!!!!

      This is more proof …stolen election

      I used the vote Tally Data from

      on November 11, 2012

    • driftervii

      Virginia vote tally for congressional seats by party

      republican 1,833,934

      democrat 1,736,164

      Virginia votes for president

      Romney 1,789,618

      Obama 1,905,528

      Are we supposed to believe that 44,316 people voted for

      republican congressmen and not Mitt Romney?

      so lets say that these votes were switched through electronic

      voter fraud …thats a 88,632 vote swing …Add in the absentee military vote and it is definitly enough to

      warrent investigation and Recount..i have no doubt Virginia

      should be a Romney win…..

    • Anonymous

      So wait… let me get this straight. Someone actually doesn’t see how Mitt Romney, a vulture capitalist who has made hundreds of millions of dollars raiding the pensions of companies he hostily took over, feeding on their carcasses and discarding them like yesterday’s news, got fewer votes than John McCain, a straight shooting, honorable man and war hero. Really… that doesn’t make sense to you? Makes perfect sense to me.

    • Anonymous

      its only fair.. the republicans have stolen their fair share too..

      it really makes no difference anyway..

    • trouble8696

      Its not just about Obama policies…because if it were , why din’t Popeye the Sailor man… did this kind of initiative during Bush administration I mean after all the policies are still pretty much the same … Obviously I’m no fan of Obama…but the most Vocal Criticism about BO is based on Bigotry & Racism & unfortunately that what the media gives most Credence to …Frankly I’m sick of it… IF UR too…Lets break a SAP…right Folk’s…

      Not my words but…By BARRACUDA (Reporter) put a video > > > Divided States Of America: 20 States Petition To Secede…watch it folk’s … :lol:

    • Patrick Henry

      Is it really that hard to believe that fraud occurred in the 2012 election?
      If you think that the honesty of people in this recent election was beyond question, then you’re living in a fairytale, lying to yourself, and truly have no idea about human nature.

      Let’s look at what we know.
      >>> The president hails politically from Chicago, maybe the MOST corrupt political machine in the country. His close friends engaged in fraud in deciding who would get his vacated seat. (Do you think he was really shocked?)
      >>> He attended a Church that advocated getting revenge against Whites, whose Pastor condemned the USA because of injustices that Blacks have suffered.
      >>> He lied under oath to the Illinois Bar, stating that he had never used another name, other than Barack Obama. Had he forgotten “Barry Soetoro”?
      >>> He has voted innumerable times to make it easier to kill unborn and born children (the latter by supporting legislation to deny survivors of abortion, life-saving nourishment or first-aid, believing that they should be left to die, and anyone who tried to help a baby suffering from the botched abortion should be charged with a crime.)
      >>> We have a President who sees his mission as leveling the playing field for minorities, especially Blacks, and Blacks also see his mission as leveling the playing field for minorities, especially Blacks. That’s why they voted overwhelmingly for him, as they saw him as a kind of Great Deliverer. When people have this messiah-complex, this delusion of grandeur, it is fairly easy to justify any dishonesty since (in their eyes) it will help bring about the greatest good.
      >>> The President has revealed his character (or lack thereof) by refusing to let his administration to accept any responsibility for the Fast & Furious scandal.
      >>> In Libya, he knowingly and intentionally left our ambassador and staff without adequate defense and then refused to rescue them even though we had enough time, enough resources and enough intelligence as to the situation status. About the only thing he didn’t have, was the character, courage, compassion, and consideration for doing what was right.
      >>> He promised us, the American people, that transparency would be a hallmark of his presidency, yet he spent millions to block journalists and others from looking into his background. In one instance, he refuses to answer why he has blocked any attempt to find out why he has a Connecticut social security number.
      >>> His friends included unsavory characters like terrorists (Ayers and others), racists (the irreverent Jeremiah Wright), criminals (Tony Rezko) and more.
      >>> He promotes class warfare, inciting hatred for the rich by repeating ad nauseum that they don’t pay their fair share. >>> He takes sides prematurely in racial issues, such as the situation where he said the Harvard University police “acted stupidly” because while answering a burglary call, they treated the first person they came to with reasonable suspicion since they didn’t know WHO the homeowner was, and they were accused of racial profiling… and, of course, the famous Trayvon Martin case where he revealed his bias by expressing his familial affection for the young gangster.
      >>> According to Black Christian commentator, Thomas Sowell, Obama uses ”a ghetto-style accent that Obama doesn’t use anywhere except when he is addressing a black audience”. What do YOU call someone who acts one way around some people and a different way around others?
      >>> He gave enough bail-out money to fat-cats and corporations that arguably could have ended world poverty and world hunger. Even had he only divided it evenly amongst all families in the US, with the condition homeowners pay off their house, and renters purchase a house, it would have solved the housing crisis, the jobs crisis AND the economic crisis

      Many of his accomplices in journalism only thinly veil their support for him by ignoring and suppressing any negative stories about him, while being extremely efficient in publishing all real, perceived, and imagined faults of his opponents.
      One thing he hasn’t been able to hide is his horrible performance on the economy and jobs. In particular, the Black community has been hit even harder that the rest of society, causing a chronicled lessening of fervor for him in the Black community.
      This is truly just a brief sketch of what takes up volumes in revealing who and what this man is. So, knowing his background (what’s been painstakingly extracted) and his track record, take a look at some of what we know about this election.
      * Obama and Democrats showed unusual and ferocious hostility toward voter ID laws, which only ensure a more verifiably honest election. Why were they truly against it? If anyone truly believed having or getting an ID was a real problem, they would have led the fight to drop ID requirements for other things in society, like getting approved for welfare, social security, disability, etc., etc., etc. Obviously Blacks and other minorities have no problem getting ID to take advantage of these things, so any sucker would see right through this false act of being offended. PLUS, even the UN monitors who monitor voting in Third World Countries were shocked that people could vote WITHOUT an ID.
      * Many polls had Obama and Romney neck-and-neck, and some with Romney leading.
      * A LARGE and incredulous amount of precincts had NO Romney votes… ZERO!
      * Many precincts reported OVER 100% participation.
      * Some machines were reported to have entered votes for the opposite selection by voters, some even showing Romney was selected, when the voter had selected Obama (with far more of these errors in Obama’s favor, of course).
      * Legitimate Republican Poll Watchers acting in an official capacity were bullied away from many precincts by Democrats who replaced them with other Democrats, of course, until they had to be returned by a judge’s order.

      There’s more, but I’m getting sleepy from writing and you’re probably getting sleepy from reading. But we can’t let this issue sleep, or this issue will die. Let’s fan the flames of liberty, to restore the government of the people, by the people and for the people, lest it perish from the Earth.
      God Bless America!

    • HDThoreau

      I think finding half a State where not a single person voted for Romney would send up a red flag. And the fact that it’s a swing state is even more troubling. And third, it was at the polling stations where the black panthers where the polling supervisors(DOJ got them a job after not prosecuting them).

      Yes, it’s a certainty. Military ballots that vanished. 1 Million illegal aliens and their families given amnesty with their Democrat voting pack.

      It’s a big dick in the ass, but Romney was and still is too much of a pussy to challenge it.

    • Anonymous

      Stolen from Whom?

      Does anyone is actually naive enough to believe that presidents are elected?

      Lets assume that there is no voting fraud at all. Even in this case the method of voting is designed so only two parties remain as an actual choice. Thus giving you, the sheep, you, the illusion of choice.

      If real elections where to take place:

      - No computers. Only paper ballots.

      - You choose the order of the persons from the one you like most to the one you dislike most. Then the sum of the weights determine who is elected. For example there where 5 candidates, you put a weight of 5 to the one you like the most. all the way to 1 to the one you dislike the most.

      Why? By giving a 5 for the candidate they like the most, but still give a 4 to the second one, while give only a 1 to the candidate they hate the most. It allows people to vote for whoever they like without worry that the one they dislike the most will be elected. Which in turn is the key to eliminate the control 2 mafias system that we have now.

      But of course, that would not be good for the two mafias, would it?

      But go ahead. Continue legitimizing your own demise. Continue voting for evil. And don’t forget to drink your fluoride before going to sleep.

    • anyoneamongUS

      us ‘knowing’ this, and ‘them’ actually doing something about it are about as far apart as they could be right now…. Too many ‘bought and paid for’ or Too much ‘dirt’ being held over there
      heads… Too much ‘fear’ of what might happen to ‘me’ if i run my mouth or ‘dare’ try and stand up for what’s right so that my kids will have a fighting chance in this mess that we’ve made for them to inherit…

      If GOD ever turned HIS BACK on us …. we would absolutely destroy our own selves……..

    • muscltory

      I did a query to the master computer.
      What is the final vote? Romney 56% Obama 42%

    • Anonymous

      Both candidates saw big turnout drops from 2008. Maybe a lot of people just didn’t like either choice.

    • Gary Bryson

      This guy is out to ruin the U.S. he is the one that gave the order to stand down in Lybia. He lie’s like a rug and surrounds himself with retartds—all dishonest. The
      republicans better get some Balls and tie him up till we find a way to get him out of office—he has to go___GB

    • Mr_Einstein2U

      Sure is shocking that a Mormon candidate who was exposed lying on a variety of issues got fewer votes than an impeccably honest candidate like John McCain….anyone who believes that Governor Romney not only received, but deserved, more votes than John McCain received in 2008 is so naive and uninformed that they should not be allowed to write articles for public consumption.

    • guadaloupi

      The election was rigged and bogus from its inception. Both Obama and Romney are hand picked mouthpieces of those in control. We would be no better off if Romney was in.

      Control was obtained and is maintained by deceptions being acted upon. BREAK THE CHAINS.

      Those in control are not held accountable for crimes and misdeeds: They control the courts and the prosecution process. They control the governments by controlling their money.
      This is what they do with control; which maintains control and profits only those in control:

      “The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was ever invented. Banking was conceived in inequity and born in sin… Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them but leave them the power to create money and, with a flick of a pen they will create enough money to buy it back again … Take this great power away from them and all great fortunes like mine will disappear, for then this would be a better and happier world to live in … But, if you want to continue to be the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let bankers continue to create money and control credit.” Sir Josiah Stamp, 1927

      This plot was conspired by the Federal Reserve System as evidenced by Edward Mandell House in a private meeting with Woodrow Wilson, President 1913-1921.

      “Every American will be forced to register or suffer not being able to work and earn a living. They will be our chattel, and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions. Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of lading to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, forever to remain economic slaves through taxation, secured by their pledges. They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value designed to make us a profit and they will be none the wiser, for not one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident one or two would figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible deniability.
      We will employ the high office of the President of our dummy corporation to foment this plot against America.” Edward Mandell House

      The people of Iceland forced their corrupt government to resign.
      A public assembly was created to rewrite the constitution.
      The banks were nationalized.
      It was decided not to pay the fraudulent debt that PRIVATE banks created.

      The United States needs to abolish the corrupt corporate government it has.
      Other nations need to do the same.

    • metrocts

      You are dead on the mark. I have thought the exact same thing in fact I told my wife a couple days after the election my feelings and how I was sure it was stolen and In a moment she became angy like I was and thats the best way I can describe it. Were pissed that something can go on like this in our country and people say well thats politics. I say Bull we deserve better and we should demand it .We have just seen the largest theft in world history. The Theft of an American Presidential Election and the media goes about their business as usual including the conservative media.They were all over the 2000 election and that pales by what went on this year.
      Ive been on the losing side of a number elections but not this time ..not this year.. not this election . . It was stolen and I have never been so sure of something as this and I,m not alone and the hundreds of thousands people signing petitions in all 50 states tells me we need to organize some how and march on Washington and demand a full investigation and the guilty parties should hang for this. Dont let this get swept under the rug.

    • Sam2000

      Tell it like it is!!!! libs stole this eleciton!!

    • Genait

      Do you murdering scum use that excuse to justify your continuing genocide of the earth? Just because someone in the past was ever subject to an inhumanity its party time and everyone else can be killed and have everything stolen from them? I live in the land my ancestors came to as the first humans 7000 BC and I am telling the Americans I support them. Tell the Native Americans to go screw their and their fellow murdering thieving animal arses! Societies are the people not the territory. Nazism and communism is statism and territory.

    • Fake-it

      No kidding!!!
      Since when your votes count anyway???

      However, don’t worry, the government has a solution for you vote-tards.
      A coming coup d’etat to calm you down.
      It will be called FASCISM, because you demand it!

    • airspoon

      We already have fascism and not really because anyone voted for it (if elections were any bit of effective, they would be banned), but rather because nobody really voted against it -and I’m not talking about ballots either…

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