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United Kingdom VS Ireland - Its Not About Flags , Its Worse Than That

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The trouble began after Belfast city council voted by 29-21 to end the practice of flying the union flag 365 days a year from the dome of the 19th-century city hall. Sinn Féin and SDLP councillors accepted a compromise motion from the centrist Alliance party that the flag be flown only on dedicated days such as the Queen’s birthday.                                                                                                                                                               A LITTLE HISTORY BEFORE I EXPLAIN : The treaty to sever the Union divided the republican movement into anti-Treaty (who wanted to fight on until an Irish Republic was achieved) and pro-Treaty supporters (who accepted the Free State as a first step towards full independence and unity). Between 1922 and 1923 both sides fought the bloody Irish Civil War. The new Irish Free State government defeated the anti-Treaty remnant of the Irish Republican Army, imposing multiple executions. This division among nationalists still colours Irish politics today, specifically between the two leading Irish political parties, Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael.

The new Irish Free State (1922–37) existed against the backdrop of the growth of dictatorships in mainland Europe and a major world economic downturn in 1929. In contrast with many contemporary European states it remained a democracy. Testament to this came when the losing faction in the Irish civil war, Éamon de Valera’s Fianna Fáil, was able to take power peacefully by winning the 1932 general election. Nevertheless, until the mid 1930s, considerable parts of Irish society saw the Free State through the prism of the civil war, as a repressive, British-imposed state.                                                                           GOOD FRIDAY :   The Agreement acknowledged: 

That the majority of the people of Northern Ireland wished to remain a part of the United Kingdom;

that a “substantial section” of the people of Northern Ireland, and the majority of the people of the island of Ireland, wished to bring about a united Ireland.

Both of these views were acknowledged as being legitimate.

The agreement reached was that Northern Ireland would remain part of the United Kingdom until a majority of the people of Northern Ireland and of the Republic of Ireland wished otherwise. Should that happen, then the British and Irish governments are under “a binding obligation” to implement that choice.

Irrespective of Northern Ireland’s constitutional status within the United Kingdom, or part of a united Ireland, the right of people in Northern Ireland “to identify themselves and be accepted as Irish or British, or both” (as well as their right to hold either or both British and Irish citizenship) was recognised. The two Governments also agreed, irrespective of the position of Northern Ireland:

“… the power of the sovereign government with jurisdiction there shall be exercised with rigorous impartiality on behalf of all the people in the diversity of their identities and traditions and shall be founded on the principles of full respect for, and equality of, civil, political, social and cultural rights, of freedom from discrimination for all citizens, and of parity of esteem and of just and equal treatment for the identity, ethos and aspirations of both communities”.                                                                                                               TODAY 2013 , THIS IS WHATS HAPPINENG 

 Ten police officers were injured last night by rioting loyalists in east Belfast last night.

One needed hospital treatment after a series of violent attacks linked to protests over the decision by councillors to restrict the flying of the Union Flag over City Hall. He was later released.
At one stage a road was blocked by a burning car in the Templemore Avenue area.
Hooded and masked gangs pelted officers with bricks, bottles and petrol bombs.
Police said there were two arrests.
Motorists were diverted away from the disorder – the latest outbreak since last month’s City Hall decision. 

Ulster loyalists are planning to demonstrate in Dublin over the decision to restrict the flying of the union flag 100 miles away in Belfast. The decision to protest in the Irish capital next weekend will raise fears of a repeat of the Love Ulster march in Dublin six years ago, which degenerated into a major riot in the city.

The loyalist victims’ campaigner Willie Frazer has confirmed that he has informed the Garda Síochána that he and his followers will hold a peaceful protest in Dublin next Saturday. Frazer was one of the organisers of the Love Ulster demonstration, which marched to the Dáil but triggered rioting and disorder across central Dublin.

The last demonstration by loyalists in Dublin resulted in rioting throughout the city centre with shops looted and Garda officers being attacked with petrol bombs and missiles along the city’s main thoroughfare in O’Connell Street.

 Sectarian & race hate group “Love Ulster” attempted to March down O’Connell street in Dublin in an effort to provoke the citizens of the Irish republic. 25th February 2006.                                                                                      WE EXPECT THE SAME ON JANUARY 12TH , ….. THIS DEMONSTRATION WONT END WELL :(  

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    • RonThundrEagle

      WOW! This seems strange don’t it? You would think the North would vote out the British if that is what they wanted since there is an agreement to do so. I guess it is more than it says though. Now they are planning to go south to cause problems? WOW!

      • Pix

        Every time it has been put to the vote it’s been a near 100% unanimous result to stay British. Even the Catholics don’t want to be ruled by the Catholic southern Irish. I guess they don’t want to go from being ok to destitute. They have kicked the Catholic Vatican diplomat out in any case for covering up and therefore aiding and abetting child rapists.

    • chairman of the board

      Things will get worse in Ireland by 12th of january , ya heard it on BIN first lol

    • ashless

      Isn’t it about time that Ireland was left alone and the people there allowed to live in peace without outside interference? That was their right in the first place, as for all of us and, I doubt that the taking of northern Ireland was actually supported by the vast majority of the British people. But hey, we’re not the ones commanding the army and carrying the guns. If it was up to us, I suspect that Ireland would have been left to itself and a friendly relationship created instead of what we see today. The more we come together as a people, the faster we can root out the rot in our so called self-proclaimed leadership and heal wounds for deeds done in our name but never supported by the vast majority of us.

    • Mort Amsel

      great information here, i shall keep an eye out for this!

    • wvbowhunter

      Looks like we are on our way to an ununited kingdom. I love the English as well as the Irish. I hope you guys can sort it all out. Here in the US things are going down the drain and quickly I might add. :sad:

    • FirebrandOne

      As an Irish man it grieves me no end to see this dispute go on and on, do the Protestants and Catholics not realise that this and all other disputes in the world are orchestrated by elites who occupy the highest levels of secret societies – the distinction between Catholic and Protestant is used as a means to cause dispute. The protestant people’s enemy are not Catholics or vice versa but the people who occupy the highest levels of their own organisations ie the Royal Black Preceptory and the Orange Order who in turn are controlled by the NWO, this is the greatest secret unknown to 99.99% of the population, even those who are given this information will immediately decry it as a conspiracy theory. Equally on the Catholic side the Jesuits control the main players. Most dont want to know as it involves letting go of their ego and being very honest with themselves – their entire understanding of the world is wrong. ‘Jesus – what will the lads down the pub think of me shure they will laugh and make a joke of me’ And so it goes on year in and out, generation after generation.
      All the terrorists organisations were created by the Illuminati – sub groups of British Intelligence playing off one side against the other
      The Protestants caused it – The Catholics caused it – the blacks are to blame – the Whites are to blame – the English were behind it – the Irish were behind it.
      Until our society rids itself of pyramidal type organisations we will have what we have
      Are you ready to wake up?

      • Louis

        Calvin was a Jew, and Luther was under the influence of Jew rabbis, who funded and fomented the Protestant “reformation” to divide the Church and pit one Christian against the other. It’s one of the devil’s oldest tricks: divide and conquer.

        The solution is the Golden Rule: Love Christ and love one another. Don’t let the Christ-hating Jew rabbis win. Don’t burn in hell with them.

    • Pix

      The bad feeling between Britain and Ireland goes back a lot further in time than that to pre Roman times. Basically to when Ireland used to raid Britain for slaves to sell in the middle east.

      It’s not strange that when the Irish emigrated to America, they got rich on the backs of slave labour, it’s in their blood, they have a long historical track record of it.

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