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Alert: Eyes on Damascus

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I want to draw your attention to Syria. While the media keeps us distracted with one after the other scandal in Hollywood and Washington, a war against and in Syria has been in the works for a long time and is about to materialize. Syria is a powder keg ready to explode.

Let’s rewind a bit and look at what happened already in 2016 under the radar of most media.
A large shipment of military equipment was shipped from the US towards Bremerhaven in northern Germany. The vehicles were painted in desert camouflage and were said to be for war games in eastern Europe and that they would be painted in the right colors on arrival. A quite nonsensical explanation.

The vehicles were indeed transported by train to the eastern European border, but even all the way down to Bulgaria. There they were loaded into two ships, one of which sailed to southern Jordan from where they were brought to the southern border of Syria; and one was sailed to Beirut Lebanon from where they were brought to the Western border of Syria.

Mind you that this has all started in 2016 under the Obama administration and has continued under Trump. The military equipment reached its destination in March / April of this year 2017 and sits there waiting to be used.

The US is not planning to leave and is hell-bend on having a war. Last week they announced that they would even go to war in Syria without consent of the UN. And without having the incentive of the threat of ISIS this is the next step.

And just a few days ago a massive convoy of Turkish military rolled into eastern Syria.

Iran has now already 13 bases in Syria and tens of thousands of troops. Foreign minister of Russia, Sergei Lavrov, has just stated that this Iranian presence is legitimate.

At the same time Israel is not pleased with Iranian presence just over 30 miles from their border. They have already fired on several targets inside Syria.
And finally, the events in Saudi Arabia are connected with Israel, Lebanon and the buildup of alliances for the war that is in the making.

Why is all of this so relevant? Because this is prophecy unfolding, just look at what scripture tells us:

Concerning Damascus. Hamath [Homs] is confounded, and Arpad [Aleppo]: for they have heard evil tidings: they are fainthearted; there is sorrow on the sea; it cannot be quiet.
Damascus is waxed feeble, and turneth herself to flee [refugees], and fear hath seized on her: anguish and sorrows have taken her, as a woman in travail.
How is the city of praise not left, the city of my joy!
Therefore her young men shall fall in her streets, and all the men of war shall be cut off in that day, saith the LORD of hosts.
And I will kindle a fire in the wall of Damascus, and it shall consume the palaces of Benhadad [the president].
Jeremiah 49:23-27

How true has this become the past few years. But it is not over yet:

Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Damascus [1948, 1967, 1973], and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they have threshed Gilead with threshing instruments of iron:
But I will send a fire into the house of Hazael, which shall devour the palaces of Benhadad [the president].
I will break also the bar of Damascus, and cut off the inhabitant from the plain of Aven, and him that holdeth the sceptre from the house of Eden: and the people of Syria shall go into captivity unto Kir, saith the LORD.
Amos 1:3-5

The climax of this pending conflict will be the total destruction of the city of Damascus. It will happen overnight:

The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.
And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.
Isaiah 17:1,14

Only a weapon of mass destruction can do that.

And we can clearly see that the main players of that other future war, known as the ‘Gog Magog war’ – as described in Ezekiel 38 and 39 – are taking their positions: Russia, Iran, Turkey.

Keep your eyes on Syria, it will come to pass! If you know the Lord Jesus, there is no fear, our redemption draws near.

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    • allendaves

      “The burden of Damascus” was a prophecy about a people that were supposed to be called by God’s name but were instead called by the names of the gentile nations about them…JERUSALEM not a physical city in Syria!?!?…pay attention to #2…..123’s of true Christianity v popular & damnable heresies

      #1 “ANOTHER JESUS”:
      -“ONE” not triune: Mark 12:28…Which is the first commandment of all? 29. …Hear, O Israel; THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD: 30. And ………..this is the first commandment….. 31. And the second is….. IF YOU CAN’T GET THIS “FIRST OF ALL COMMANDMENTS” RIGHT, ALL THE REST OF YOUR “FAITH” AND PREACHING ON LOVE & SIN IS MOOT….. (NOTE: And yes, the specific Greek and Hebrew words used also and only define one person contrary to the ridiculous obfuscation attempts of some!?!)
      PART 4 & 5 HOW MANY GODS ARE THERE FOR THE ONE GOD TO TALK TO?? Who was Jesus praying to??!?…. The real question should be … How does having multiple different persons keep this one God/being/entity from praying to himself?! (The trinitarian “schizophrenic” “god-head”) The Trinitarians want to have their cake and eat it too as the saying goes. On the one hand they need to say they only worship one indivisible God being/ entity but on the other hand they feel the need for some reason to keep Jesus or God from praying and talking to himself by dividing him up into different persons!?! It never occurs to them that that since there is only one indivisible God to pray too and Jesus is that indivisible God come in the flesh that he would need to talk to himself as to show us how to live, suffer, pray and die for our/ flesh) benefit not his!?!….. So while Trinitarians are quick to complain that God was not talking to himself at Christ baptism or in Gen “let us” they ignore the logical demands of their own theology! If Jesus is the ONE GOD in flesh and the Father is the SAME ONE GOD in heaven then Trinitarianism demands THE ONE GOD is talking to HIMSELF! Claiming that God is multiple different persons as the reason for why God is not talking to himself (because God is three different “selfs”) only demonstrates that what they really worship is in fact not a ONE GOD who talks to himself but three different god “selfs”/ and they all talk to each other! When they speak about who God was talking and praying to, they are quick to say “the other person, NOT HIMSELF!” But if you ask them how many gods do they pray to then they will say “ONLY ONE”!?! They expect you to believe that those three different persons are THE ONE GOD-BEING” which is like calling three different cars “THE ONE VEHICLE” (text book examples of prov 26:12)

      -PART 5 Echad, Echad, my God, God is Echad!….:The Greek word pros in Jn 1:1 does not inherently demand multiple different persons because:

      1. The definitions (without forced conclusions stuffed in) are just as equally valid as reference to parts of the same person (modalisim) Your head and your right arm have close relationship to each other; can be facing, towards, relating to, moving to, in the direction of, to, unto, looking to; even at home with, a living union, in the presence of, a common ground, closeness They are still both distinct and different from each other and yet they are of both the same person. Ironically the scriptures use the very same terms to describe father and son.

      2. Ironically and most hypocritically, the trinitarians are trying to appeal to the anthropomorphisms (they claim this passage implies) to demonstrate different persons while at the same time denying the very anthropomorphisms that God himself specifically in scriptures uses to define the son and the son’s relationship to the father. Apparently only the literal anthropomorphisms that trintiarins “see’ exist while the one’s that God himself uses should not be taken too literal or too anthropomorphic or seriously. Is the face anthropomorphic and or literal face or just some metaphor? Either way the problem for trinitarians still exist and simply does not cease with linguistic distractions. There are many different types of faces; face of a clock; face of a mirror; face of one’s palm. Further, the face of one’s palm would be totally consistent with the anthropomorphism that God uses when discussing his own right arm as the son! So either way, a literal and or anthropomorphic face or a metaphorical face in close relationship only leaves the trinitarinas peddling an empty argument hoping no one notices the fact that this argument is nothing more then delusional smoke and mirrors for “the faithful” and for everyone else, well, just “never mind that man behind the curtain”.

      3. You cant appeal to your own desired and or preconceived conclusions as evidence that your methodology in arriving at your conclusions are valid. [ie the use of Jn 1:18 et al as proof that Jn1:1 supports different persons in Jn1:18 et al or visa versa ] How difficult can they make these simple things? The God in heaven is a he but cannot be known except by the he who is the same God in flesh! So why can’t they be the same he again? It should not be difficult to understand since:

      A. The same God who is in heaven is on earth and the difference need only be of circumstance which at least we know that much to be factually true [spirit only v spirit in human flesh] There is no further need or demand for different individual persons since all the different he’s are in fact the same HE!. Trying to claim that God is multiple different “He(s)” who make up the one being either leaves your God to be a “it” that consist of different he(s) or a“God being” who is a he while simultaneously consisting of different individual he(s) [Father-he; Son=he; Holy Spirit=he].

      B. If you find no difficulty in accepting that God is a he that consist of father son and holy spirit also referred to each as a different he and yet all the same he then what is the point to claiming different persons again? How is the multitude of hes who are all the same he show or demand different persons rather than different circumstances of the same person who is in fact “HE”?

      In any case, the trinitarian inconsistency and or incoherence will never be resolved by simply chalking it all up to “how great thou art” unless you willingly and blindly “drink the cool aid” calling it “faith”. True faith is in the words of God (including the specific anthropomorphism God himself uses) not in wild created imaginations of three different persons with different minds, locations and instructions for each other that is somehow not a pantheon of three gods who are only “one in terms of purpose not one god!….To deny the father is to deny the son because they are one and the same person that came in the flesh! Trinitarians confess & preach literally …”ANOTHER JESUS” 2 Cor 11:4

      -JOHN 14: 8-20 ….[Note Isaiah 9:6. For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: …: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, … the everlasting Father] ….The son, father/Holy Spirit are all the same person, NOT like two different persons working together even as “one flesh” ….The “oneness” between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man & his wife, for only a fool would say “When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?” Notice they asked to see THE FATHER and the response was Jn 14:9 ..“HAVE I BEEN SO LONG time with you, and yet hast THOU NOT KNOW ME, Philip…..Now image some fool trying to claim that statement if you asked to see his wife!?!!? You want to see the FATHER but have I been with you but you don’t know me!?!?!
      Jn 14 continued….…………..17. Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; (Jn 14:6 I AM the way, THE TRUTH,) whom the world cannot receive, .. for HE DEWLLETH WITH YOU, (present tense/standing next to them in the flesh) and SHALL BE IN YOU… (future tense “In them”) 18. I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU (future tense “In them”) Jesus himself here makes the point that the same person who was the HOLY SPIRIT that would come was standing next to them but lets them know “I will come to you again to be Inside of you”

      -The whole point to Gal 3:20.a mediator is NOT A MEDIATOR OF ONE, (HEIS) but GOD IS ONE. (HEIS) again, point blank, identifies the number of persons of God! The “but” points out the contrast between multiple persons in a mediation party v the “one” of God. God is not like a mediation party with multiple different persons. …..”the express image of his person” ( the person of God; singular not plural) Any attempt to lay claim otherwise is willful ignorance and delusional nonsense

      -Like a thief in your house caught stealing your things insisting he was not there stealing “I CONFESS I am NOT stealing”. You just do not “properly understand” what he is doing/saying. Further, since you never had a “proper understanding” of what he is doing/saying you have no business accusing him since you do not even know what you are talking about in the first place. It is with and in your own ignorance that you base your “false accusations” & “ad homonym attacks” against him…… Ridiculous of course it is ……2Thess 2:11; Titus 1:16; 2Tim 3:5; TRINITARIANS CONFESS JESUS /THEY ARE NOT POLYTHEIST BUT ARE MONOTHEIST LIKE A LIAR & THIEF WHO “CONFESS” THEY DO NOT LIE OR STEAL The simple fact is that just because you confess or deny that you are in an adulterous relationship and denounce all forms of adultery has nothing to do with whether or not it is in fact adulterous! .. …A rose by any other name is still just a rose AND calling it a water lily does not change the definition of what a water Lilly or a rose is either!…

      -This should have given you a hint, harking back to Satan in The garden…God said you will die…Satan comes along and states no you will be more WISE……Today .God said He is one; but Satan’s children come along and say no three is more WISE and humble in the face of God’s grandeur only “a mystery” that can be understood “in faith”. God uses head and right arm to explain the distinctions between father and son.. However, the Trinitarian heretics say to the effect: “NO, that is just a figure of speech, or that is not what God really means. What God is really saying is that God is three different persons”. Fools, hypocrites and blind guides, God said he was One and by your traditions have taken the words of God and made them of no effect, refashioning God into the image of your vain imaginations!
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      #2 “ANOTHER GOSPEL”:
      -If you ask most people what the Good news or Gospel is they will probably tell you about the virgin birth or Christ death burial and resurrection. This would be rather humorous if it was not so sad considering that for the three and half years of Christ ministry he does not mention hardly ever. However, Christ does spend a lot of time preaching out of the OT scriptures. Now imagine given a report or manual to read and understand, that makes reference to and even quotes other source material and then ignoring that source material when it comes to defining the context and meanings of words in the report or manual you are trying to make sense of. If that seems dysfunctional that is because it is. This is, however, what most people are doing when it comes to understanding sound NT doctrine and or even what the Gospel message of Jesus was. The mystery of the gospel was not the death, burial and resurrection although it is part of it. In fact, death, burial and resurrection was the sign, the only sign, that Jesus gave to validate that the gospel message he was preaching all that time was true……and yet most deny it!?!?!

      -The “2nd coming”… “I come quickly” so “Hold fast till i come”… NOT …“in another 2000 years I might be coming soon any time now, so hold fast”!?! …those that deny the second coming of Christ in the war of AD70 (in their lifetime) are practicing a damnable heresy in denying the Lord that bought them ( 2Peter 2:1-2 ;2Tim 4:8/ you cant love an appearing you deny& the context is the 2nd coming not the first)… Mat 7:23..”I NEVER KNEW YOU” …..Mat 10:33. But whosoever shall deny me before men……..sound familiar?…. If I said I am coming to your house in this generation when these things happen but no one knows the day or hour what fool would think I might be coming in 2000 years latter!?!? ..2 Tim 4: 4. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES. The “idea”/ doctrine that Jesus has not yet returned but “soon any day now soon” does not just make God out a liar; it is not just ridiculous but makes Christianity a mockery, A pathetic “ship of fools”!?!
      -The following example excerpt from Bertrand Russell: sometimes quoted by atheist et al and from his published work “Why I Am Not A Christian”
      Defects in Christ’s Teaching
      Having granted the excellence of these maxims, I come to certain points in which I do not believe that one can grant either the superlative wisdom or the superlative goodness of Christ as depicted in the Gospels; …. I am concerned with Christ as He appears in the Gospels, taking the Gospel narrative as it stands, and there one does find some things that do not seem to be very wise. For one thing, he certainly thought that His second coming would occur in clouds of glory before the death of all the people who were living at that time. There are a great many texts that prove that. He says, for instance, “Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel till the Son of Man be come.” Then he says, “There are some standing here which shall not taste death till the Son of Man comes into His kingdom”; and there are a lot of places where it is quite clear that He believed that His second coming would happen during the lifetime of many then living. That was the belief of His earlier followers, and it was the basis of a good deal of His moral teaching. When He said, “Take no thought for the morrow,” and things of that sort, it was very largely because He thought that the second coming was going to be very soon, and that all ordinary mundane affairs did not count. I have, as a matter of fact, known some Christians who did believe that the second coming was imminent. I knew a parson who frightened his congregation terribly by telling them that the second coming was very imminent indeed, but they were much consoled when they found that he was planting trees in his garden. The early Christians did really believe it, and they did abstain from such things as planting trees in their gardens, because they did accept from Christ the belief that the second coming was imminent. In that respect, clearly He was not so wise as some other people have been, and He was certainly not superlatively wise.
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      #3 GOD LOVES EVERYONE; Jesus Died for “you”…… Just “come as you are”
      Does God love you?….”Probably” NOT!….and NO Jesus did not die for everyone!?!……There is a sharp contrast between THREE groups : A. The predestined damned B. the “many” called C. The “Few” Chosen
      Predestination….its true..its all true… God does NOT love everyone:

      Prov 8: 17. I LOVE THEM THAT LOVE ME …………
      1John 5:3. For THIS IS THE LOVE OF GOD, that we keep his commandments:

      (1) “PREDESTINED DAMNED” who were NEVER written in the book of life ………..Rev 17: 8 WHOSE NAMES WERE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, …as contrasted …EPH 1: 4. According as he hath CHOSEN US in him BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD

      (2) “MANY CALLED”= ONLY and ALL SAINTS (those who come to Christ) are written in the book of life … Philippians 4:3… ……Rev 21:27; (Only saints are Called and elect; Rom 1:6-7 et al) This is THE CHRUCH and ONLY these can have their names blotted out of the book of life ….….Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and CHURCH of the firstborn … WHICH ………are WRITTEN in heaven,

      (3) THE FEW CHOSEN: Those saints who were alive in group #2 who are now physically dead. They died “faithful” these are the FEW that were chosen faithful…….Rev 3:5. ……; and I
      will not BLOT OUT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, (Ps 69:28) …. These are the FEW that are CHOSEN and now that they have died and are saved then “once saved THEY CAN NEVER BE LOST”

      PS: “The world” that God so loved was not the Roman world nor the world of the Maya nor the world you imagined in your head that God specifically told them NOT TO LOVE!?!


      “whosoever shall call on THE NAME OF THE LORD shall be saved”
      ………So WHAT “NAME” did you “CALL UPON”?……
      Rev 19:13. .. and HIS NAME IS called THE WORD OF GOD
      Ps 138:2. praise THY NAME … for thou hast magnified THY WORD ABOVE ALL THY NAME -
      NOTE: God placed His “THE WORD” ABOVE all of God’s various NAMEs – and Jesus NAME IS called “THE WORD” no other name saves. The MOST important name we should KNOW and CALL UPON is “THE WORD”; Not letters that spell “word” but the sayings/ doctrine/commands. It does NOT say “thy word is given a name above other names because here THY WORD is identified as the name that is placed above all other names.
      Isaiah 52:1. . 6. Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW MY NAME: ..What NAME do you “KNOW”.?
      1Jn 2:3. And HEREBY WE DO KNOW that we KNOW HIM, if we KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS./ Titus 1: 16. They profess that THEY KNOW God; but IN WORKS THEY DENY him…
      “AT the name OF JESUS”…..Jesus has a name that belongs to Jesus…just like the name OF GOD means a name that belongs to GOD but it is ridiculous to suggest that the letters G-O-D is that name…likewise the name OF JESUS is NOT the letters J-E-S-U-S. Why would anyone think that you could pronounce THE HIGHEST NAME OF GOD letter by letter…. (ie Judges 13:18; 2Cor 12:4 but God’s name is not as great and or “unspeakable )
      Rev 3:8 kept MY WORD, and hast not DENIED MY NAME; …
      .Jn 17:6. I have MANIFESTED THY NAME And they have KEPT THY WORD.;
      THE WORD is THE NAME above every name that saves us 1Pt 3:21 The ONE baptism(Eph 4:5) is into THE WORD ( which is also baptism in the Holy spirit Jn 6:63the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit ) ..ALL the sayings doctrines and commands….what did THE WORD that became flesh command? (Mat 28:19)…..what did THE WORD exemplify? (Mat 3:15/ Jn 4:1)………among other things…..YES .water baptism is just as essential and necessary for much a part of salvation (1Pt 3:21) as is keeping one self away from works of the flesh (Gal 5:21)….In fact obedience to the command of water baptism is specifically identified as the act of calling on the name of the Lord (Col 2:12 “……though the operation[work] of God” CAN ANY MAN BE SAVED WITHOUT GOD WORKING ON HIM?) …..THE WORD OF GOD is the name of God that men call upon OR…OR ..they DENY with their disobedience
      The scriptures tell us almost nothing about the thief’s life. However, the scriptures tell us a great deal about Christ life……Jesus had been around for 3.5 years before the cross and was Baptizing (Jn 4:1-2 in fact He instructed his disciples to do so and did many more then John the Baptist ever did) …..Those who try to appeal to the thief on the cross assume the thief had never heard of Jesus preaching and had never ever been baptized….The burden of Proof is on those who say baptism is not essential! ………..You can’t claim a logically valid “non-essentiality” doctrinal argument on ANYTHING based on what the scriptures do not say and in spite of the things it clearly does state to the opposite effect!…That is like looking at the constitutional law and then basing a argument against a constitutional principle in law based on the fact that history did not record for us what some unknown cattle thief did or did not do a 150 years ago?!?! What??..Who cares?? We know what the constitution did say 150 years ago. I don’t know of any Law school that bases its teaching on constitutional law based on what history does not tell us about unknown cattle thieves!?! ..Jesus command, preached & practiced Baptism so did the apostles ….To build one’s theology on the fact that the scriptures do not tell us ANY detail(s) of the thief’s life before the cross (we know almost absolutely nothing about the thief!!) it is quite foolish and willfully ignorant of what the scriptures do say about baptism…….so those who try to use the thief are in effect building their house on the sand of what scriptures do not say about a thief in spite of what the scriptures do specifically tell us about baptism!?!… “Their damnation is just” comes to mind… OR

    • Anonymous

      Fuck zionist prochecy. Sick of having this self-serving satanists use their political agenda as a “spiritual” tool to control the masses. WAKE UP and learn who your REAL enemies are. Read the Chosen’s TALMUD and see how they view JESUS and you, the “CATTLE GOYIM”

      • RogueInfideL

        Indeed my fellow Infidel, I had to login just to say I concur on what you said, who the real enemy is. These ra-ligious blind faith fools are becoming annoying. Sad thing is 90% of them never heard the word TALUMD or know what it is. IsisRaEl will also be a ruinous heap. They are down wind of Iran anyhow, but no mind they don’t care about their own anyhow. Remember everything we see is deception and illusion.

    • Jango

      Great Story. Thanks for posting. Some people are so foolish to disregard the Word of God.

      • Andy

        it’s entirely impossible to disregard the word of god, because it doesn’t exist – the bible is the word and work of man and nobody else

        *the bible is a man-made FICTION*
        - all powerful god can create an entire infinite universe, but can’t manage to pen a single sentence of his own book?
        - can send his only living son to die for all humanity, yet he can’t manage to pen a single sentence of his own book either?
        - all scriptures were written by ignorant men who didn’t know what gravity, electricity, bacterium & viruses are
        - all scriptures were written in the languages of men
        - all scriptures were written using tools invented by men (pen, paper, ink, etc)
        – the bible was AUTHORED by the pagan roman emperor Constantine at the council of Nicaea in the yr 325ad
        - the bible is replete with thousands of contradictions and factually incorrect info
        - the FACT that neither god nor jesus penned a single sentence of their own book is the very strongest of evidence that neither ever wanted such a book written,,,, ,,,, but then, fairy-tale characters can’t write their own fairy-tale now can they

        • unidentified

          which part dont you like :?:

          • Andy

            all of it

            would be fine if it was acknowledged by all as the fantasy fairy-tale that it is, but trying to pass it off as the word and work of an imaginary god and indoctrinating millions of innocent kids into this death cult is not what i call honourable nor loving, nor moral

      • ann

        We should always follow Gods Word and be ststrong

    • Andy

      “Last week they announced that they would even go to war in Syria without consent of the UN.”

      huh? US are already at war in Syria and have been since the war started – no it’s not a civil war, it’s a proxy war with the U.S. arming, funding, training & commanding ISIS

      they went to war against Afghanistan without the consent of the U.N. and the same with Iraq and the same with Syria – the greatest criminal nation on earth will take the whole world down with them, rather than go down alone as the U.S. petro-dollar collapses

      “Iran has now already 13 bases in Syria and tens of thousands of troops. Foreign minister of Russia, Sergei Lavrov, has just stated that this Iranian presence is legitimate.”

      absolutely!! as legitimate as the 800+ U.S. bases in foreign countries

      p.s. i know jesus – he’s the main character in the fantasy fairy-tale known as the bible

      *jesus never lived*
      - not ONE historian living at the same time and in the same city wrote a single thing about jesus
      - not ONE of the thousands who purportedly witnessed or experienced the “miracles” wrote a single thing about jesus
      - the romans kept incredibly detailed records, yet no mention of jesus
      - of the 12 apostles apparently only half bothered to write anything about jesus
      - we have no evidence which verifies that Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John actually wrote the books attributed to them
      - the most prolific contributor to the NT (Paul/Saul of Tarsus) never even met the myth
      - we have no primary evidence for jesus (things he made, letters/notes he wrote etc)
      - the ONLY evidence outside of the biblical fairy-tale are a few single sentence anecdotal (read HEARSAY) mentions written by historians born 2+ generations later (Pliny The Younger, Tacitus, Josephus etc) and hearsay is not evidence by any standard

      • Hi NSA, kiss my artichoke

        And yet, hearsay is all atheists have.
        Science and archaeology have demonstrated the truthfulness of His book time and again.
        I’ve always found so-called atheists amusing.
        They almost all share a common trait.
        If there is NO God, then why do they rail against Him so?
        If He doesn’t exist, then why bother to attack people that believe He does?
        OH! Yeah! Right! You’re trying to SAVE us.
        Just like the Demorats trying to SAVE all the children.
        “The Romans kept incredibly detailed records.”
        Do you think that the art of “PROPAGANDA” is a NEW concept?
        The Romans were sending their kids to England for a higher education, while at the same time, calling the English “Barbarians.”
        “The Bible is replete with thousands of contradictions and factually incorrect info”
        NAME ONE.

        • Andy

          oh here we go, standard indoctrinated delusionism

          “Science and archaeology have demonstrated the truthfulness of His book time and again.”
          science and archaeology have proven it wrong countless times – no flood, no exodus, no nativity

          “If there is NO God, then why do they rail against Him so?”
          how can one rail against a fairy-tale character? the indoctrination abuse foistered upon innocent children needs to END, you religious fruit-loops are destroying our civilization – over a BILLION innocent people have been slaughtered in the name of religious fantasies and it continues to this day

          what’s not to rail against there? perhaps you applaud the slaughter of innocents and child abuse

          “If He doesn’t exist, then why bother to attack people that believe He does?”
          how is presenting the TRUTH attacking? calling you lot deluded infants is also truth, how is this attacking? is it attacking a deaf person by calling them deaf?

          “OH! Yeah! Right! You’re trying to SAVE us.”
          more indoctrinated delusion, i’m not trying to save infants from their fantasy fairy-tales, i’m trying to put an end to religious slaughter and the child-abuse indoctrination of innocent kids, regardless of which religion BY SHARING THE TRUTH

          “Do you think that the art of “PROPAGANDA” is a NEW concept?”
          absolutely NOT, neither are psyops anything new – fact is, the bible is a roman psyop! an invention to quell the rebellious nature of ignorant and superstitious humans and IT’S STILL WORKING TO THIS DAY

          “The Bible is replete with thousands of contradictions and factually incorrect info”
          NAME ONE

          you don’t know your own bible? or you’re deliberately lying – which is it?

          GE 1:3-5 On the first day, God created light, then separated light and darkness.
          GE 1:14-19 The sun (which separates night and day) wasn’t created until the fourth day.

          GE 12:7, 17:1, 18:1, 26:2, 32:30, EX 3:16, 6:2-3, 24:9-11, 33:11, NU 12:7-8, 14:14, JB 42:5, AM 7:7-8, 9:1 God is seen.
          EX 33:20, JN 1:18, 1JN 4:12 God is not seen. No one can see God’s face and live. No one has ever seen him.

          EX 3:1 Jethro was the father-in-law of Moses.
          NU 10:29, JG 4:11 (KJV) Hobab was the father-in-law of Moses.

          MT 2:13-16 Following the birth of Jesus, Joseph and Mary flee to Egypt, (where they stay until after Herod’s death) in order to avoid the murder of their firstborn by Herod. Herod slaughters all male infants two years old and under. (Note: John the Baptist, Jesus’ cousin, though under two is somehow spared without fleeing to Egypt.)

          LK 2:22-40 Following the birth of Jesus, Joseph and Mary remain in the area of Jerusalem for the Presentation (about forty days) and then return to Nazareth without ever going to Egypt. There is no slaughter of the infants.

          THOUSANDS of contradictions, THOUSANDS of pieces of factually incorrect info – this alone proves it cannot be the perfect word of god, but the imperfect word of humans

          and as usual, the atheist knows your bible far better than you do, that’s what happens when you actually STUDY for a few decades instead of blindly following fantasy fairy-tales as if they’re real

          p.s. there’s no way i’d want to take your fav fantasy fairy-tale from you, after all, you can’t handle reality so we’ve gotta leave you with something – just keep innocent people and innocent children out of your role-play game

          • Andy

            forgot to mention, Herod DIED before your mythical jesus was “born”, and there was no slaughter of first borns either

            • Hi NSA, kiss my artichoke

              You were raised a Catholic weren’t you?
              Just asking.
              “No flood.”
              Yet fish bones are found in high caves…
              Guess they walked there…
              You haven’t studied the Book for 5 years, let alone decades.
              Tell me, Andy, have you READ the Book?

            • Andy

              “You were raised a Catholic weren’t you?”
              raised catholic by medium strength parents, but i was very deeply religious, very studious, mass daily (6am), stations of the cross daily, rosary daily – i actually believed this shit was real, as you still do

              at first i studied the bible from the adherent POV, never questioned it critically. My studies were more about learning the content, the underlying meaning, the messages etc – i must have read Rev hundreds of times, and one interprets it differently every time, gradually building a “bigger picture”

              this study helped me understand simple things like the trinity – i have a mind, a body and a soul and i’m made in gods image, who also has a mind (the father), a body (the only living son) and a soul (the holy spirit)

              i even spent 1200 bucks (1982) on the best bible i could find, naturally it was a catholic bible, because jesus himself said to peter (Matt 18:18)
              “whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven” – after all it was jesus himself, who through these words founded the catholic church and all the other christian denominations were offshoots invented by disillusioned MEN – e.g. church of england, Henry wanted to divorce, invented his own church to suit

              the bible did say that which is from god is good and that which is from men is evil,, so man-made religions were definitely out

              went AOG age 16, spoke in tongues, engaged in healing sessions, born again age 18 – spent another 5 years wholly engrossed and studied the bible further and further, but the more i had the bases covered, the more “holes” started to appear

              this lead me to study the other religions of the world, to find out why mine was right and theirs wrong – i found very common denominators between ALL of them, and underlying messages which are also common to all

              the more i studied other religions, ancient history, ancient mythology, archaeology, psychology, sociology & theology i noticed ever more flaws in every religion & every holy book – yours included

              “No flood.” Yet fish bones are found in high caves…”
              no WAY!!! fish bones found in high caves? you mean HUMANS couldn’t have caught fish and taken them to their caves to eat could they? those caves could well have been under the ocean a billion yrs ago (oh, forgot, sorry,, 6k only right :eek: )

              “You haven’t studied the Book for 5 years, let alone decades.
              Tell me, Andy, have you READ the Book?”

              lol, you didn’t know of any contradictions, i pointed out just a small few – and you’re asking me if i’ve read the book?

              you didn’t even go to the bother of refuting them, or any of the points in my OP – typically lazy indoctrinated delusionist

              now that’s not an insult arti, that’s a fact

            • Mayhem

              Perhaps your lazy, cut-n-paste, interweb, “bible contradictions” aren’t worth Arti’s time but i’m up for it, Andy, and as studied as you claim to be your list desperately over reaches which shows a pointed anti-theist stance rather than an exercise in critical thought.

              The Sun
              Gen 1:3-5 doesn’t mention the sun only light. This light…


              … which is the same light in Rev 21:23 and with what God said to Isaiah, about knowing the end from the beginning, i contend the connection is no accident.

              God is not seen
              No one has seen the full glory of God’s face. Moses had to be shielded in the cleft of the rocks and covered by God’s hand. Otherwise God appeared as a burning bush (Moses) or a whirlwind (Job) or in a vision (Isaiah, John, Amos) and Num 12:8 only says “face to face” in english translations. In context the passage merely makes a distinction between how Moses and the Prophets converse with God.

              Moses father in law
              Many bible characters had a name change some were changed by God and some were changed when folk switched allegiances.


              Egyptian Flight
              Matthew and Luke accord just fine given it’d take a week, or so, for Herod to realise the wise men weren’t coming back (enough time for baby Jesus circumcision) and because the King died a matter of weeks into the slaughter the stay in Egypt was fairly brief which allowed Mary to fulfill her purification rite upon returning. Luke says Mary and Joseph took Jesus to Jerusalem but does not say from whence they came and the safest assumption is they came from Egypt because that’s what the book says.

              So there you go, Andy, your first 4 supposed contradictions are no such thing.

        • b4

          your all delusional–if god was reading your bullshit he would be laughing his ass off at all your childish nonsense–the bible is the book of wrath and judgement—god has no wrath nor judgement–only stupid,petty,immature humans have wrath and judgement because they are agents of satan–god does not read the bible–never has–never will–was not written by god either–some insane homeless dudes in a cave wrote it,inspired by satan,not god–the word of men,not god–god is way above the petty nonsense of humans–god is never like us–god loves all his stupid,foolish humans,even evil hateful bible thumpers,christians–jesus in his day told us salvation is gurrrraaannnteed for all,no hail marys or forgiveness needed–the bible thumpers did not like hearing that so they killed him–the bible thumpers of today would do the same,given half a chance–all you insane bastards keep talking your shit like you know god–all you know is slogans,phrases out of the book of satan–complete bullshit,but keep spouting your nonsense if it makes your ego,self righteousness swell like a giant dead pig–god doesn’t care about your bullshit

          • RogueInfideL

            The Bi-bull is their ‘ Blue print ‘. They being the shakers and movers of this world. They will follow it to the letter cause they wrote it, edited it, ( Sir Fransis Bacon ), has more translation errors than Carter had liver pills. Religion = RA-Legion. Sun worship. I feel your pain Andy, I too was deluded for many years of my life till I started looking from outside the box of early years. As they say we can’t or would not want to go back to ignorance. Stay strong cause these fools about to stir the pot some more.

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