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PizzaGate - Out of Darkness into the Light - Episode 8 - The Knights Templar

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PizzaGate is about child trafficking. Many children are kidnapped and sold for the purpose of satanic ritual abuse by Illuminati secret societies. This video demonstrates the connection between the ancient Order of Knights Templar and the modern Order of Oriental Templars – the sex magick society developed by Aleister Crowley that uses children for sick adult rituals.

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    • Everette

      I did a search years ago that ran a different story . The Vatican , Natzi , NWO is changing history ! To prove my point , when I was growing up gay had a meaning of someone that was having a happy moment . Today the young people do not even know that meaning . They say it’s a person confused about their sexuality . That person likes those of their same gender . But back to my point . The Knights Templar was actually started to protect the linage of Jesus family . Jesus did have brothers and sisters . But the catholic church hides that . In Mark 6:3 and Matthew 13:55-56 and Galatians 1:19 these brothers and sisters are mentioned , they are called the Desposyni . The reason Friday , Octember 13 is the day of evil as some say is because the Vatican knights of Malta marched into a French town where the Desposyni had settled down , and murdered the entire town , Thinking they had killed all the Desposyni . But the Knights Templar helped some escape to England . After finding out that some had escaped the Vatican sent in more troops trying to round them up . But many escaped towards Germany , Ireland and Scottland . The Vatican did not have sway in those places . They helped push Hitler into power , then they paid him to kill the Jews trying to kill off the linage again . As long as a Desposyni lives the NWO , natzi Vatican can not claim true world power . These descendants are of King David’s linage . The Vatican then moved on Ireland with the Protestant , chatholic wars . Again they sought to kill off the Desposyni linage . Recently the Obama adminastration was helping set up the NWO , UN world take over . Had that have happened the vaticans hopes was to finally finish off any that could possibly be of Jesus Family linage . The nights of Malta ( the vaticans army ) had set up lies along the way trying to cause all that may have known of any where abouts of the Desposyni , to turn them in . Those today posing as Templar are not Templar . They are just like we have today in the Republican party those posing as Republicans , but are true Democrats . Their actions give them away . I got the reading material before the Vatican changed the history . Today the True Templar are quite , waiting for that son of man of King Davids sperm or seed ( Which Jesus could not be of because He had no earthly father ) Jesus talked about in Matthew 24 and Luke 21 . This quite army will once again spring forth when the time comes . These negative blood types claiming to be of The Templar are of the reptilian descent ( science also backs this up ) . You know children of the serpent or the dragon the same being the Vatican worships . They even named their telescope in Arizona after him ( Lucifer ) . In Isaiah 14:12 lucifer name is mentioned and other verses expound on him . And GOD kicks him out of Heaven . Also in Ezekiel 28:13-15 mentions his previous job . This is who the knights of Malta , the Vatican , the NWO , the natzi , the UN worship ! The Templar are descendants of Israel who the children of Esau , the vatican , the natzi , the NWO the Edomite and Ishmael , the UN , the Muslims hate ! Jesus said they are liers like their father lucifer . Please find some old history books on this subject matter . The Vatican has always been known for changing history . They burned books and libraries , stole artifacts and documents to cover up history . Some are hide in the vaults under Vatican city . These are the evil ones doing the work you mentioned . Look at the preist and little boys , the preist and nuns having babies then killing them and hiding them in them under the church . There were 13 tribes mention in Genises 48-49 from Jacobs linage . After King David his son Solomon became King and began after chasing women of other nations . They lead him astray into other gods . GOD became ANGERY and divided the tribes . 10 was given to Ephraims descendants and was called Israel . 3 was given to Solomon to keep and was called Judea . They fought with each other . GOD then had Ephraim , Israel (10 tribes ) removed by the King of Babylon 2700 years ago to Europe . Then 2000 years ago Judea had to leave their home because of Rome . The Roman Vatican church ( Esau’s descendants ) chased Judea across the Mediterainean Sea to France . Once Judea and Israel were joined together in Europe the wars between them began again . The vatican took advantage of it . Today the vatican is seeking world power by claiming old Jerusalem where they plan to build their universal temple where their beast ( son of lucifer ) will set . All this is happening when Judea was planning to rebuild their Temple . It looks like middle earth is getting ready to be busy , 3 Temples of worship fighting for religious power over mankind .

    • james amen

      dear born~again christians:
      if you are frustrated about rampant, world-wide pedophilia not
      being pursued by law enforcement and stopped, then please know
      the following as to why, and what you can do..
      as an evangelist, lover of people, and student of human
      behaviour.. i endeavored to research this subject to find out
      what was going on. here are my findings:
      as it turns out, [unless a person is apart of child-trafficking]
      you are not even REMOTELY aware of how vast, how widespread
      (pandemic) pedophilia actually is worldwide. pedophilia is,
      literally, to the world as what cancer is. there is nothing
      ANYBODY can do about pedophilia now; except THE LORD JESUS
      CHRIST. pedophilia has become so massive an
      evil underground operation, that, literally, has millions upon
      millions of high-positioned, power-brokers of the world
      ensnared in its grip. with the numbers accurately in
      perspective, it should be easy to understand why events like
      “pizzagate” are going NOWHERE. sure, exposing “pizzagate”
      helps a handful of victims, but, realistically, law enforcements’
      efforts with this are equivalent to giving chemotherapy to a
      one cancer patient.. when there are millions upon millions of
      other diseased standing in line.
      PRAYERS ARE ALL THAT IS LEFT THAT CAN BE DONE.
      no man can do anything. ONLY THE LORD.

    • james amen

      dear born~again christians:
      if you are frustrated about rampant, world-wide pedophilia not being pursued by law enforcement and stopped, then please know the following as to why, and what you can do..
      as an evangelist, lover of people, and student of human behaviour.. i endeavored to research this subject to find out
      what was going on. here are my findings:
      as it turns out, [unless a person is apart of child-trafficking] you are not even REMOTELY aware of how vast, how widespread (pandemic) pedophilia actually is worldwide. pedophilia is, literally, to the world as what cancer is. there is nothing ANYBODY can do about pedophilia now; except THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. pedophilia has become so massive an evil underground operation, that, literally, has millions upon millions of high-positioned, power-brokers of the world
      ensnared in its grip. with the numbers accurately in perspective, it should be easy to understand why events like
      “pizzagate” are going NOWHERE. sure, exposing “pizzagate” helps a handful of victims, but, realistically, law enforcements’ efforts with this are equivalent to giving chemotherapy to a one cancer patient.. when there are millions upon millions of other diseased standing in line.
      PRAYERS ARE ALL THAT IS LEFT THAT CAN BE DONE.
      no man can do anything. ONLY THE LORD.

      • Mayhem

        Will you share your research or must we take your word for it?

        As for leaving it all to “THE LORD” that’s not what the Bible teaches.

        I would have thought a self proclaimed evangelist would have known that.

        • james amen

          share my research? .. how about millions of sites and billions of internet sources and when materials outside of the internet are included, then it is in the trillions..
          share my research? you do not need my “say so” for it.
          you claim “that is not what THE BIBLE teaches”..sure it does.
          may i respectfully say to you, slow your eagerness to criticize others down before you make yourself look like how you try to make others.
          if you read what i wrote slower, then you would see the words ‘PRAYERS ARE ALL THAT IS LEFT”.
          this clearly shows that ‘other efforts have been taken first, but to no avail’.
          my words stand correct.
          think before you speak, friend, ..it is wiser.
          prayers and blessings to you.

          • Mayhem

            Oh, okay, sure thing, i have some concerns myself, but i imagined you might have something other than conspiracy theories.

            As for giving up the fight, resisting our beast nature that is, and leaving it all to “THE LORD” can you show me where to find that in the Bible?

            Perhaps you could also explain this “born again” thing because, as far as i can tell, if you bleed when cut then you are flesh…

            “That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.” – John 3:5-6

            … so which are you flesh or spirit?

            • james amen

              dear m:
              first of all, i commend you.. after 17years of evangelism, RARELY
              do i ever encounter an open individual, such as yourself, and
              genuinely follows~up on themes as ‘evangelism’ and ‘born~again’.
              according to THE WORD OF GOD, that is a GREAT sign in you:
              Matthew 13:16.
              ok, for a little BIBLE~study;..’where in THE BIBLE’, you asked..you covered alot of thought in your reply, so, allow me to answer as succinctly as possible. when one studies SCRIPTURE thoroughly, there is a predominant theme that runs from end~to~end, from cover~to~
              cover: it is this: THE LORD is ULTIMATELY in CONTROL [Isaiah 14:24]; however, because we, who are ‘born~again’ [explained momentarily] are HIS children, THE LORD expects us to interact obediently with HIM [John 14:15]. this obedience is in the form of service to HIM; but, when we serve THE LORD, it has to be HIS way. when all of SCRIPTURE is sorted~out, there are two directions of service: one toward spiritual [ministry] using faith, the other toward helping the world. when it comes to helping the world, THE LORD actually provides only a few, to some, acts that HE expects one to do themselves [providing where able; offering assistance to those unable; showing the love of CHRIST in word and deed; and prayer] ALL the rest THE WORD says repeatedly to ‘HAND it over to GOD’: Matthew 16:24; II Co 1:9; II Corinthians 3:5 [and multiple other passages that essentially make the point to: 'rely not on ourselves but on GOD']. these are not just isolated verses, this is a main summary of the entire BIBLE.
              now, how to become a ‘born~again’ christian first of all, what is a ‘born~again’ christian? a ‘born~again’ christian is, actually, the ONLY true christian, or, child~of~GOD, for that matter.
              to explain this as briefly as possible, there are just, simply, some ‘given’ truths that need to be initially accepted; without having to expound on each and every point. to begin with, JESUS is THE LORD who wants to restore fallen man to HIMSELF. HE designed the OLD TESTAMENT and THE LAW to show mankind that they cannot ‘fix’ themselves. JESUS died on THE CROSS to provide mankind the ONLY way to be restored to GOD.
              JESUS said in Hebrews 9:22: ‘.. and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins’.
              a person’s spirit is the corrupted part of a person that lives forever; the ‘shedding of blood’ washes that spirit clean and pure so as that it can enter into a HOLY place~ called GOD’S HOME, or, HEAVEN.
              the ‘washing of the spirit clean and pure’, JESUS identified, in John 3:3: ‘JESUS replied, ‘Very truly I tell you, no one can see the KINGDOM OF GOD unless they are born~again’.
              the ‘washing of a person’s spirit clean and pure’ is what is meant as being ‘born~again’.
              so, we see, that a person does not become a christian by simply “believing” THE BIBLE. despite what the predominant, contemporary church teaches, from my experience as an evangelist for many, many years, i will tell you that i do not believe that a person even becomes a true christian by simply “believing” in JESUS. the predominant, contemporary church will simply recite John 3:16, over and over, as if that is it to becoming saved and becoming a child~of~GOD. i will show you that it is not..*now, let me qualify this.. notice, however, this is NOT alluding to “works”.. it is referring to TRUE conversion.
              John 3:16 is ONLY ‘HALF OF THE STORY’; in that, a person can have an intellectual ‘belief’ of JESUS, and even a belief in ALL of the surrounding details of HIMSELF; but, SCRIPTURE is abundantly clear that ‘the brain’ is NOT the key element to conversion, the HEART is:
              the HEART is what JESUS ALWAYS focused on: Ezekiel 36:26: ‘I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh’; Matthew 5:8: ‘ Blessed are the pure in heart,..’; Matthew 6:21: ‘For where your treasure is, there your heart will be’; Matthew 12:34: ‘.. For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks’; Matthew 13:15: ‘For this people’s heart has become hardened;..otherwise [if] they [would] understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them’; Matthew 15:8: ‘These people draw near unto ME with their mouth, and honour ME with their lips; but their heart is far from ME’;Ephesians 4:18: ‘Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of GOD through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart‘.
              so, here we see that just an ‘intellectual belief’ of JESUS, and HIS offer a salvation, does not have the identifying elements of ‘the heart’ anywhere in it. that is because the heart is about a person’s attitude.
              the ultimate proof of this is the GREATEST verse in THE BIBLE that truly captures the essence of what JESUS wants from a person’s heart when they ask HIM for forgiveness; it is: II Corinthians 7:10: ‘[for it is] Godly sorrow that brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death’.
              it is all about the heart. the ‘Godly sorrow’ that is being referred to here is nothing short of ‘tears’, themselves. in other words, you show me a person who asks JESUS for forgiveness of their sins, as tears are flooding down their cheeks, and i will show you a person whose heart is right regarding their sin, who has genuine remorse for sin; i will show you a true christian conversion.
              whereas, you show me a person who just “ nonchalantly” “believes” in JESUS, and says some “shallow” prayer to “GOD”, and i will show you a person with a II Corinthians 7:10: ‘worldly sorrow that brings death’. it ‘brings death’ because it isn’t genuine, plain~and~simple.
              the true way a person becomes a christian is when a person realizes that they are, in~fact, a serious sinner; that there is a GOD who loves them, whose name is JESUS [and HIS other BIBLICAL names], and that JESUS offers them forgiveness of sins as a free GIFT to genuinely, and humbly, accept.
              so, yes, ‘belief in JESUS’ is absolutely essential for becoming a christian, but if i had to present ‘christian conversion’ in ‘simplified terms’, then i would define it this way:
              belief in JESUS + Godly sorrow + tears + a sinner’s prayer = a true born~again christian child~of~GOD.
              so, what this says is that for a true christian conversion to happen, when asking JESUS for forgiveness of their sins, is that tears and remorse MUST be evident regarding their sin; and from this, it gets expressed in words in the form of a ‘sinner’s prayer’.
              a sinner’s prayer would be like this:..[just confess the following with your mouth, out~ loud, wherever you are,.. come as you are…all JESUS wants is your heart with sorrow for your sins, but tears of appreciation for what THE LORD has provided you with..eternal life!]
              ‘dear LORD JESUS, oh, PLEASE forgive me of all my sins..PLEASE have mercy on me..i DO believe that you are THE LORD, and i DO believe that YOU raised YOURSELF from the grave.. i DO believe that YOU LOVE me SO much that YOU were willing to die for me on THE CROSS, in my place. THANK YOU SO MUCH, LORD. help me to love YOU with all my soul, heart, mind and strength, LORD. help me to also serve YOU, LORD, faithfully. help me so that people can see YOU in me. thank YOU, JESUS. in YOUR precious BLOOD and NAME, amen’.
              when you accept JESUS, this right way, then this act is then instantly answered by THE HOLY SPIRIT; WHO washes your spirit with HIS BLOOD.
              this instantaneous moment is the moment of change. this is the moment of becoming ‘born~again’. the change IS the instant moment of becoming ‘born~again’.
              it is also referred to in SCRIPTURE by a number of terms;.. here are some of the main ones: ~’quickened’; ‘cleansed’; ‘transformed’; ‘baptized’; ‘new creation’; ‘new man’; ‘washed’.
              if you have any thoughts or questions with THE LORD, please
              feel free to message:
              [email protected]
              howtoevangelize.myfreesites.net
              contactjames.myfreesites.net
              GOD BLESS you.

            • Mayhem

              You wrote a 1,400 word essay, james amen, and only 17 of them addressed my question albeit without actually answering it.

              You said…

              “the ‘washing of a person’s spirit clean and pure’ is what is meant as being ‘born~again’.”

              … and i’d like to know where in the Bible it is written that being baptized, or washed in the blood of the lamb, is referred to as the new birth?

              The thing is, james amen, Paul says that flesh cannot inherit the Kingdom of God (1Cor 15:42-52) and, in my opinion, speaks to being born of above at the time of the 7th Trumpet, when Jesus returns to establish His kingdom. A point that Paul also made (Phil 3:15-21) in his letter to the Philippians.

            • james amen

              dear m:
              after 17years of evangelism, whenever i encounter a person who
              does what you do, it is very easy for me to see what you
              struggle with.. so, first, i PLEAD THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST on
              you so as that you may be healed..
              this makes a second time now that you have made false
              statements where information is right in front of you to show
              otherwise.
              you had two issues: 1st] denying my claim of ‘leaving it to THE
              LORD’ and asking for proof.. i answered that thoroughly.
              2nd] you said, “explain born~again”. i did that thoroughly, and
              then you criticize that you received your answers.
              now, you falsely-accuse [satan's name means 'false accuser', by~
              the~way], that i did not answer your question..”are you flesh
              or spirit?”. i did answer the question. the fact is you did not
              read it, or you cannot comprehend it.
              my words in my answer: ‘a person’s spirit is the corrupted part
              of a person that lives forever’..and, ‘so as that it can enter
              into a HOLY place~ called GOD’S HOME, or, HEAVEN.’
              your question: “so which are you flesh or spirit?”, therefore,
              is non-sensical.. all of the information given you already
              explains that ALL people are both flesh and spirit
              until they die. the importance with the spirit is whether it has
              been washed by THE BLOOD OF JESUS to be allowed into HEAVEN.
              your latest doubt is: ” where in the Bible it is written that
              being baptized, or washed in the blood of the lamb, is referred
              to as the new birth”: ANSWER: Hebrews 9:22: ‘.. and without the
              shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins’. I John 1:7:
              ‘..and the blood of JESUS purifies us from all sin’. Acts 2:38:
              ‘..Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of JESUS
              CHRIST for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift
              of THE HOLY SPIRIT’. 1 Peter 3:21: ‘..whereunto even baptism
              doth also now save us [not the putting away of the filth of the
              flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,] by the
              resurrection of Jesus Christ’.
              so, obviously, m, since flesh does not enter HEAVEN, and only
              the spirit does, baptism, or, cleansing of the corrupted spirit,
              which ALL people were born with, is what is necessary for a ‘new
              birth’. JESUS calls this ‘new birth’ being ‘born~again’ [not
              flesh..SPIRIT is what is new]. John 3:3: ‘JESUS replied, ‘Very
              truly I tell you, no one can see the KINGDOM OF GOD unless they
              are born~again’. 2 Corinthians 5:17: ‘Therefore, if anyone is
              in~CHRIST, THE NEW CREATION has come: the old has gone’.
              this answer to you began, after 17years of evangelism,
              whenever i encounter a person who does what you do, it is very
              easy for me to see what you struggle with..
              whenever i encounter a person who has this combination of
              characteristics: a problem with honesty, cannot hear or
              understand plain english and also try to quote THE BIBLE, but
              clearly show that they have NOT READ THE BIBLE.. it is ALWAYS
              for the same cause..
              demon-possession that has led them into a cult religion.
              so, without even knowing you personally, m, i can hear in your
              words that you have been contaminated by one of the christian
              cults.. and, i will even go further to say,.it reeks of “jehovah’s
              FALSE witnesses’.
              well, my experience with people who join christan-cults is that
              they are people who deep-down only love being faultfinding and
              argumentative; such that ‘a mountain of proof does not convince
              these kinds of people’ because they do not care one bit about
              TRUTH..

            • Mayhem

              1) – Fair point, james amen, so in response to my question, about leaving the fight against pedophilia up to Jesus to sort out, you responded with Bible verses that spoke of the ultimate authority of God, submission to God, reliance upon God, competence coming from God, obedience to God, and the taking up of the cross.

              None of that is in contention, all of it is truth, however nowhere does it say “LEAVE IT TO JESUS” when it comes to resisting evil in the world.

              because…

              Resisting the devil is mentioned alongside submission to God (James 4:7) so as not to give the enemy a foothold (Eph 4:27) and to wear the full armour of God (Eph 6:11,13) while standing firm in the faith (1 Pet 5:9) knowing you’re not alone all the while staying alert (1 Pet 5:8) because the adversary seeks to devour.

              To conclude the point; you say we should throw our hands in the air and do nothing while i say we should fight the good fight any way we can, so we disagree, that’s okay, but you have shown me nothing to change my mind on the matter despite the feeble attempt.

              2) – Regarding being born again; yes, james amen, one must be born again in order to see the kingdom of God, that is truth, that is not my contention. In response to my question, about baptism and such, you listed passages that speak of baptism unto forgiveness (twice), purification of sin, to clear the conscience, and the gift of the Holy Spirit.

              However nowhere do those verses refer to baptism as a “new birth” not even the gift of the Holy Spirit of which there are 7…

              Wisdom, Understanding, Counsel, Fortitude, Knowledge, Piety, Fear of the Lord

              … so you have yet failed to answer the question.

              because…

              I understand the re-birth to be the resurrection and the rising up to meet the returning Messiah (1 Thess 4:17) which happens at the last trumpet in the twinkling of an eye (1 Cor 15:52,53) when we are changed from corruptible to incorruptible and become immortal.

              To conclude the point; you say we folk can be re-born of the spirit, now, and i say what is born of the flesh is flesh, we disagree, that’s okay, but you have shown me nothing to change my mind on the matter despite the feeble attempt.

              3) – As for reading me the riot act and describing my pedigree, james amen, you’ll have to excuse that i ignore it as unrelated to the topic at hand. I’m not surprised you resort to personal attack, not by a long shot, it’s par for the course around here but i do rather wish you’d answer my straight forward questions.

            • james amen

              the reason you use the word “mayhem” to describe yourself is the reason JESUS said the devil ‘comes to kill, steal and destroy’.
              your falsehood is your signature discourse.. to disrupt conversation.
              there is no personal attack, as you falsely say, JESUS COMMANDS me in Ephesians 5:11 ‘to expose evil’. you are of the devil. you shall see no KINGDOM OF HEAVEN; rather, you shall perish~ unless, you repent of your wicked, falseness.
              JESUS could answer your questions, and you would also falsely accuse HIM of not answering your questions.
              enjoy your satanic, stupid headgames while you are still breathing, one who has to hide behind a false name, because you will have all of ETERNITY to think about how you should have listened..
              again, i PLEAD THE BLOOD OF JESUS on you so as that you are healed.
              for, JESUS tells me to ‘shake the dust of my feet as a testimony against you for not listening; of which, you are condemned’: Matthew 10:14~15. PLEASE do not make me do that..
              start listening to truth, and stop to lying demons.

            • Mayhem

              “Pedophiles Rule the World” – Paul Joseph Watson…

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1GQehNcZZw

              … spread the light, share, like and subscribe.

            • Cintus Supremus

              That was an exceptionally poor performance, James.

              Despite your (apparently) best efforts to contend, here is what actually came across:

              1. Your knowledge of Scripture is surface-level at best.

              2. You do not have the patience for perseverance in conversation. You’re always in a rush. You think everyone else should be in a rush too, as anyone who’s read a comment or two of yours around here already knows.

              3. You exalt yourself. You imagine yourself to be something special. But there’s not much special about vanity, is there. Vanity is commonality. It is profane. It is not special at all. You will of course plead humility — but those of us who’ve been around the block once or twice will see right through any such vapid claims.

              And now you’ll pester a solid believer in Christ with your empty threat to kick dust from your heels? You make a mockery of sound knowledge and of a reasonable spirit of communication. Are you unable to defend your beliefs beyond a simple volley of verse-citing? Clearly not. You’re in too much of a hurry and count yourself as much too precious. Seventeen years — haven’t you heard?

              If you have come here to pester and to harass others with your pretended superior knowledge of the Word of God, then congratulations on a job well done.

              But James… who do you imagine will be impressed with your repeated and repeated and repeated claim to seventeen years of evangelism. That sort of self-selling hubris lands a man in the company of hypocrites. Right where he belongs.

              Consider your ways. Especially the next time you feel like judging another believer in Christ. You can quote Scripture all you like, but coming here in the spirit of pride and with a painfully poor understanding of the Word of God, as it applies firstly to you James, is to waste your time, our time, and most importantly, God’s time.

            • james amen

              dear cintus:
              your words show the same pattern as whom you defend; based on
              falsehood. this is how i recognize demon-posession in people.
              i see that you, like a person that identifies themself as “mayhem” [a word synonymous to "destruction"], also are in~need of healing..
              i understand.
              therefore, i PLEAD THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST on you so as
              that you may be healed. i see your suffering, friend, and
              fortunately THE LORD has sent someone to you in~time. receive THE LORD’S healing.
              you have to do your part from here~on~out, though.
              JESUS said that satan is the biggest of ALL liars.
              stop listening to and following satan; its name means
              ‘accuser of the brethren’.
              p.s. be careful not to falsely accuse of another of having a
              “self-exalted” view when one, in~fact, does not; while, all
              along, you call yourself “supremus”. this is why JESUS said
              in Matthew 7:4~5: ‘..take the plank out of your own eye’.
              prayers and blessings to you.

            • james amen

              dear cintus:
              p.s.s.
              in terms of questioning my SCRIPTURE and recognition of when
              a person is demon-possessed, for what~its~worth,..let’s
              compare your words spoken to me, verbatim: “..If you have
              come here to pester and to harass others with your pretended
              superior knowledge of the Word of God,..” to those spoken to
              JESUS by demon-possessed in Matthew 8:28~29: ‘ ..[they] were
              so violent,..they said, “What do you want with us, SON OF GOD?
              they shouted, ‘Have YOU come here to torture us before the
              appointed time?’
              notice the precise identical nature of words.

            • Cintus Supremus

              Listen, Chum…

              There are two kinds of people who waltz into a new (to him) forum and forthwith commence CORRECTING and CHIDING and ORDERING people around. That is either a vainglorious little man who suffers from grandiosity or else one beset by an inferiority complex. In your case, I can see that it is the former. Unique to all suffers of delusions of grandeur, is an innate inability to accept criticism from anyone. No sir, you are here only to disburse criticism – not to accept it. You are much too special and your connection with God is far superior to any of ours. Why, you might as well replace the Apostle Peter. I mean, a swell fella like you wouldn’t have denied Messiah three times before the crowing now, would you… (I can guarantee that very thought has crossed your mind more than once.) Yes, your name should be among those engraved upon New Jerusalem’s foundations.

              “…this is how i recognize demon-posession in people.”

              Ahh… Not to be outdone in the department of criticism, here comes the diagnoses of possession. You are as predictable as the other vainglorious pretenders we’ve met right here over the years. You are all cut from the same cloth.

              “…i see that you … also are in~need of healing..”

              Let us now add condescending to the list. You’re on a roll, James.

              “…i understand…”

              If only that were true.

              “…i see your suffering, friend, and fortunately THE LORD has sent someone to you in~time…”

              Wow. You are unwell, my friend. And, as it happens, in considerable danger. You see, those of us who pay attention to these things recognize that it DOES NOT END WELL for folks who think so highly of themselves that they actually believe Jesus Christ cannot do anything without them.

              “…receive THE LORD’S healing.”

              Are you blessed with the Lord’s gift of healing? With the authority? Only in your mind, friend.

              “…p.s. be careful not to falsely accuse of another of having a “self-exalted” view when one, in~fact, does not…”

              The little curly-cue dashes with which you season your posts, what’s with that? Are you trying to be different? You’re not different, James. You are much the same.

              “…you call yourself “supremus”.”

              Yup. And if you weren’t such a newbie around here, and if you’d actually taken the time to earn your salt and to first LEARN a thing or two about the men you presume to harass and harangue with your stagecraft, then you would know WHY I have chosen to affix that name to my avatar. But you labor beneath the weight of ignorance, James. Gross ignorance.

              ‘..take the plank out of your own eye’.

              Thou, hypocrite. [Remember when He said that?]

              “…prayers and blessings to you.”

              And peace be unto you.

            • Cintus Supremus

              Forgive my missing your second post, James. Let’s see whether you’ve said anything that should be addressed:

              Nope. All you managed to do was to compare yourself with Jesus Christ. You’ll work it out in your head now that Mayhem and I are in league with Legion!! And, why, we’ve been sent to challenge you and your authority!!!

              I’d say you should have quit while you were ahead, but you’ve been behind from your entry into this website and your very first post.

              Does your hubris truly know no bounds? Don’t ever compare yourself with the Son of God in my presence again. That sort of thing will not be tolerated here.

            • james amen

              dear cintus:
              you see, there is a reason why i give my background, cintus, it is to let destroyers of BIBLICAL truth, such as yourself and mayhem, know that THE LORD has given me the necessary gifts to be able to see right through to what controls your words and actions.
              my experience is to say that people who are demon-possessed know they are demon-possessed; and they have learned that they can bully when they see are so used to weak christians.
              your demons are powerless to those gifts THE LORD has given to the church; if they would just use them.
              well, friend, i USE mine. your demons do not rattle me; rather, i will rattle them with this one question:
              if you reject my offerings of healing for you, then do you acknowledge my authority to ‘shake the dust of my feet of you’?
              be REAL SLOW, AND CAREFUL of your response, cintus, THE LORD is very clear in Matthew 10:14-15 and Titus 3:9-11 that you condemn yourself for ALL ETERNITY if you do not stop your rebellion.
              PLEASE STOP! turn to JESUS, HE DOES LOVE you!

            • Cintus Supremus

              “…i give my background…”

              Your background? Not to put too fine a point on it friend, but who gives a rat’s furry bottom about your background. What does an evangelist do, James? He evangelizes. And with what does he evangelize? He evangelizes with the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Some of us have been rather patiently watching your moves since you showed up here barking your demands. But I’ll speak for myself when I tell you, I’ve not seen you do any evangelizing since you’ve been here. You do like talking about yourself, however. That much is clear.

              “…destroyers of BIBLICAL truth, such as yourself and mayhem…”

              I beg your pardon? Destroyers of Biblical truth, you say? Well, that would be a neat trick. If Biblical truth could be destroyed, I mean – which it cannot. And I would ask you to support that wild charge with direct quotations from either Mayhem or myself, but I won’t bother because I know that what you mean to say here is that YOU are synonymous with THE WORD OF GOD. Anyone who says a contrary word to you is resisting God. Isn’t that right, Jimmy? You actually have it in your mind that you are on a level with Christ. And I don’t mind telling you… that fact is utterly repulsive. Your view of yourself is abominable.

              “…THE LORD has given me the necessary gifts to be able to see right through…”

              Hey James. Wanna know a secret? Mayhem and I have been at this very website, dealing with pretenders like you, for the better part of a decade now. There have been many misbegotten characters who, for one reason or another, ended up here and began selling lies about how important they are. About how special they are. About how Christ-like they are. What you all have in common is this: You are all liars.

              “…they have learned that they can bully when they see are so used to weak christians.”

              Here’s another secret for you, Jimbo: When you come correcting and demanding, you can expect to meet a fella or two who just might have something to say about that. You haven’t done anything but annoy people here. And I’ve given you plenty of room to do your thing, wondering whether I might see something profitable coming from you at some point. But weeks in now I’ve seen nothing but self-selling vanity. So if you take it as bullying when someone calls you on your James-worshipping… well, I suppose that’s just too bad for you.

              “…your demons do not rattle me; rather, i will rattle them with this one question…”

              Oh I can hardly wait.

              “…if you reject my offerings of healing for you, then do you acknowledge my authority to ‘shake the dust of my feet of you’?”

              You don’t have authority to change your own socks, Jimmy. Every breath you take is one borrowed from GOD. You are a debtor. You are not in a position of authority. I acknowledge this only about you – you are a very confused and confounded man. You’re also in frank violation of the First Commandment.

              “…be REAL SLOW, AND CAREFUL of your response…”

              Any other orders you’d have me to comply with?

              “…you condemn yourself for ALL ETERNITY if you do not stop your rebellion.”

              So I’m condemned for ALL ETERNITY!!! if I persist in withstanding you to your face? Hey Jimmy… I withstand you to your face. And while we’re at it, you can consider yourself rebuked.

              “…turn to JESUS, HE DOES LOVE you!…”

              So? Tell me then, evangelist. How are we saved? And please, tell me if you are able, from what are we saved?

              I am ready to be evangelized. Let’s see what you’ve got.

            • james amen

              dear cintus:
              GOD BLESS you! i commend you, you asked a great question: your words:
              ‘How are we saved? And please, tell me if you are able, from what are we saved? I am ready to be evangelized..’; but, first, you have been uncomfortable with my words only because you have not read THE NEW TESTAMENT. a true christian does not “think they are JESUS”, as what many unbelievers get the impression from our words, we sound like that only because JESUS told us: ‘HE gives us HIS AUTHORITY and we are to use it like HIM [Matthew 10:7~8, Mark 16:17~18].
              we ALL need salvation because we were born in a fallen, sinful world. our bodies were born corrupted by sin. we are made~up of spirit and flesh. our spirit, however, lives forever. THE LORD has prepared two places for every person’s spirit to reside: HEAVEN or hell; and, HE has given us ALL free~will to choose which place.
              in~ordre to receive HEAVEN, however, JESUS said that HE needs to fix our corrupted spirit before HE can bring it into HIS HOLY home. HE does this by cleansing our spirits with HIS BLOOD. HE does not “just do this automatically” because, again, HE wants people to choose it for themselves; not by HIS force.
              the details of this process are right in front you with my second discourse to mayhem that begins: ‘first of all, i commend you..’.
              i explain thoroughly ‘how to be washed, or cleansed, or saved, or born~again’ [these are ALL synonyms].
              PLEASE cintus, you have come a long way with this conversation.. do not give-up now. read what i wrote, SLOWLY, soak it in, and just think about it. let THE LORD do HIS work with you from there.
              you do not have to answer or respond; unless you genuinely have a question.
              i’m praying for you and fighting for your soul, spiritually.
              howtoevangelize.myfreesites.net

              contactjames.myfreesites.net

              [email protected]

            • Cintus Supremus

              “…you have been uncomfortable with my words only because you have not read THE NEW TESTAMENT.”

              Oh?

              “…‘HE gives us HIS AUTHORITY and we are to use it like HIM [Matthew 10:7~8, Mark 16:17~18].”

              Um, James? Matthew 10:7-8 describes Christ giving authority to His Apostles. Have you received an apostolic anointing from Jesus Christ? (Take care how you answer that question.) The final verses of Mark chapter 16 were not included in the original New Testament Manuscripts. Those verses were added late and they were not written by Mark. This is very simple to prove.

              “THE LORD has prepared two places for every person’s spirit to reside: HEAVEN or hell…”

              Oh? And does the Bible teach that people’s spirits will reside in Heaven? Please show me where. Now, in the Greek New Testament we have THREE locations each variously translated into English as HELL: We have Hades, Tartarus, and Gehenna. Which is it you had in mind for the residence of souls, according to the Bible?

              “HE has given us ALL free~will to choose which place.”

              He has now? So then the verses which state plainly that NONE come to Jesus unless they are first drawn by the Father – these verses are of no effect? Those vessels which were created by Him to dishonor, I suppose Paul was wrong when he wrote about that too? And James – I will thank you profusely if you can show me even a single verse in Scripture which has ANYTHING to say about free will for men. A single verse, please.

              “JESUS said that HE needs to fix our corrupted spirit before HE can bring it into HIS HOLY home.”

              No He didn’t. But Paul said that no flesh can inherit the Kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 15:50). Am I wrong? Then please cite a verse or verses showing where Jesus said He will fix our corrupted spirit before bringing it into His holy home.

              “PLEASE cintus, you have come a long way with this conversation.. do not give-up now. read what i wrote, SLOWLY…”

              James, I asked you two very simple and very specific questions. How are we to be saved? Now, if you cannot answer that question just as simply as I have asked it, well then I would suggest to you that you have a very serious problem indeed. So I ask you again… how are we to be saved? Can you answer me directly without saying to me: Go over there and look.

              ???

              That was a lot of writing for no answer to either question. You dodged one question and you flatly ignored the other. I will now re-ask you the other, which you apparently missed the first time I asked it:

              FROM WHAT ARE WE SAVED?

              Tell me if you are able.

            • james amen

              cintus:
              i will walk through your objections, one~by~one, this once.
              at the end, i will explain why..
              JESUS is NOT only speaking to HIS apostles, the verses, and
              throughout SCRIPTURE, apply this equally to the designation
              of ‘disciples’. if you deny this, then you falsely deny ALL
              of the testimonies that have happened since JESUS CHRIST
              where people drove out demins and raisd the dead. error 1.
              “people’s spirits will reside in Heaven? Please show me
              where.” John 14:3. as i said, you have not read THE NEW
              TESTAMENT..any person who has honestly read it, cannot miss
              how many times JESUS referred to HEAVEN [also, John 10 multiple
              times]. error 2. your distinctions of ‘hell’, again, only reveal that
              you simply do not understand THE BIBLE. this is why JESUS
              stated of the pharisees ‘they have eyes, but cannot; they have
              ears but cannot hear’. the distinctions of hell only serve
              as transitions of dispensations. the bigger picture is the
              understanding of ‘WHAT’ hell is;.. NOT ‘WHERE’. hell is
              ETERNAL separation from GOD. miserable no matter ‘WHERE’.
              error 3. your objection to ‘free~will’ only embarrasses yourself,
              because you proved ‘free~will’ with your own words. your
              admission “NONE come to Jesus unless they are first drawn
              by the Father”..dude, can you not understand plain english?
              yes, THE FATHER draws first, BUT THEN people have to answer..
              that’s free~will, right in your own words! error 4.
              your next objection: that JESUS has to fix our corrupted
              spirit. right in John 3:3. JESUS said, ‘unless you are
              born~again..cannot enter HEAVEN’. error 5. your repeated
              question: “How are we to be saved?”. i told you,. by being
              ‘born~again’, and read how to do that. it is on this same
              page. i showed you where. error 6. your final objection:
              “FROM WHAT ARE WE SAVED?”. i told you, ‘hell’. hell, or,
              separation from GOD is what you are saved from. error 7.
              now, i will say this again, why bring~up my experience in
              evangelism?.. because you are not the first to do this to me..
              one of the most obvious indicators of people on the jehovah’s
              ‘false’ witness religious is just as JESUS said in Matthew
              5:39: ‘DO NOT debate with an evil person’. they love to just
              argue about THE BIBLE to argue. then they walk away laughing
              to themselves thinking they bothered me, or wasted my time.
              neither. JESUS builds ‘cases’ against these kinds of people,
              in their BOOK OF LIFE, so when they perish and complain, THE
              LORD can show them all of the attempts a true witness made
              with them, but they would not listen.. they only wanted to
              argue with evil intent.
              PLEASE start listening.

            • Cintus Supremus

              “…i will walk through your objections, one~by~one, this once.”

              Very kind of you.

              You say:

              “JESUS is NOT only speaking to HIS apostles, the verses, and throughout SCRIPTURE, apply this equally to the designation of ‘disciples’.”

              I see. So the Word of God is in error in Matthew 10:5 where it is written:

              These TWELVE Jesus sent out, instructing THEM

              …or are you merely adding to the Word of God.

              “…if you deny this…”

              When you contradict the Word of God James, of course will I deny what you say. You are ignoring Scripture and are preaching your own gospel. What did Paul say about those who come preaching another gospel?

              “…you falsely deny ALL of the testimonies that have happened since JESUS CHRIST where people drove out demins (sic) and raisd (sic) the dead.”

              This much I know: There is virtually no end to the line of liars who have come singing songs about the miracles THEY have performed.

              “…error 1.”

              Walking yourself right into a charge of false witness, is what you’re doing.

              I asked: “…people’s spirits will reside in Heaven? Please show me where.”

              To which you responded:

              “John 14:3”

              Good. Let’s see what the Scripture says:

              And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also.

              So here He tells us He prepares a place. Did I miss the part where He said anything about Heaven? I must have. Perhaps you will clarify. It’s either that, or you are inserting meaning into the verses of Scripture which doesn’t exist in the Word of God. Now, you’ve already proven to me you have no idea where those who have fallen asleep in Christ go to await His return. You have no idea because you do not know the Scriptures as you should. But why are you assuming He speaks of Heaven here when He has said nothing of the sort? Do you imagine Paradise is the same thing as Heaven? Which of us doesn’t know the Bible, James?

              “…any person who has honestly read [the New Testament] cannot miss how many times JESUS referred to HEAVEN.”

              James. I didn’t ask you to show me where Jesus referred to Heaven. I asked you to show me where Jesus EVER SAID that any of US would dwell in Heaven. You have yet to satisfy that request, but somehow you’ve given yourself credit for doing so and have ascribed the error to me. Which one of us is in error again?

              “…your distinctions of ‘hell’, again, only reveal that you simply do not understand THE BIBLE. this is why JESUS stated of the pharisees ‘they have eyes, but cannot; they have ears but cannot hear’. the distinctions of hell only serve as transitions of dispensations. the bigger picture is the
              understanding of ‘WHAT’ hell is;.. NOT ‘WHERE’.”

              Bold words, friend. But who cares about your opinion of these things, or about which vain traditions of men you’ve become smitten with over the years? Certainly not I. What I do care about is what YOU CAN SHOW ME from the verses of Scripture, which bears even the faintest of connections with the nonsense you just offered me. Back it up with the Book, fella. Or zip your lip.

              “…hell is ETERNAL separation from GOD.”

              Prove it. Chapter and verse.

              “…your objection to ‘free~will’ only embarrasses yourself, because you proved ‘free~will’ with your own words. your admission “NONE come to Jesus unless they are first drawn by the Father”..dude, can you not understand plain english?”

              Oh good grief.

              “…yes, THE FATHER draws first, BUT THEN people have to answer…”

              There is NO RESISTING the Father if He draws us to Christ. Are we able to resist the Will of God? Was PHARAOH ABLE TO RESIST GOD, James? Did Pharaoh have free will? How about the Apostle Paul, when he wrote these words:

              Romans 7:15

              For I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate.

              Is that free will, James? Or is it the OPPOSITE.

              “…that’s free~will, right in your own words!”

              I asked you to provide me with a SINGLE VERSE from Scripture which supports the erroneous doctrine of free will for man. You have not. That’s because you cannot, James. That’s because the erroneous doctrine does not exist anywhere within the pages of Scripture. If I am in error than it will be simple for you to prove it with Scripture. Opinions are a complete waste of time.

              “…your next objection: that JESUS has to fix our corrupted spirit. right in John 3:3. JESUS said, ‘unless you are born~again..cannot enter HEAVEN’.”

              You begin to try my patience. And now I begin to doubt your sincerity. You have CHANGED the Word of God to suit your purposes, yet again. WHAT did Jesus say in John 3:3? Let’s look it up in Greek so as to avoid any potential claims by you of translational differences:

              Ἀπεκρίθη ὁ Ἰησοῦς καὶ εἶπεν αὐτῷ, Ἀμὴν ἀμὴν λέγω σοι, ἐὰν μή τις γεννηθῇ ἄνωθεν, οὐ δύναται ἰδεῖν τὴν βασιλείαν τοῦ Θεοῦ.

              Answered Jesus and said to him: Truly, truly I say to you, if not anyone be born from above, NOT HE IS ABLE TO SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

              Tane Basileian tou Theou. The Kingdom of (the) God. That’s what the verse says, James. It does NOT say Heaven. And do you know why? I’ll tell you: Because THE KINDOM DRAWS NIGH. What does that mean? It means the Kingdom of God is coming here. That’s what Scripture teaches. Thy KINDOM COME. Messiah returns and His Kingdom comes with Him. You would of course know all of this, if you knew the Scriptures even half as well as you pretend to.

              I asked:

              “How are we to be saved?”

              Finally. We might get something like a direct answer.

              “…i told you,. by being ‘born~again’…”

              Nope. Nothing doing. JAMES, YOU DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS SIMPLE QUESTION. If I asked the Apostle Paul that question, he would answer me in a single sentence with very few words. You don’t know the words because you don’t know the Bible. You cannot even tell a man how we are saved. That means all of your crowing about your background and your superior knowledge are ALL EMPTY BOASTING.

              I asked: “FROM WHAT ARE WE SAVED?”

              The answer from James:

              “…i told you, ‘hell’. hell, or, separation from GOD is what you are saved from.”

              That is but a penalty which results from a DEBT. It is now painfully obvious that you have no idea how to answer this question either, according to the plainly-worded verses of Scripture. You are ZERO FOR TWO, James – and I have only asked you the very most basic of questions with respect to a Gospel you claim falsely to know.

              “…‘DO NOT debate with an evil person’. they love to just argue about THE BIBLE to argue.”

              You can do as you will. You have no answers because you do not know the Bible. I, on the other hand, was only doing with you as I was instructed to do:

              1 Thessalonians 5:21

              TEST EVERYTHING

              1 John 4:1

              …do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

              That’s what this has been, James. You have been weighed. You have been measured. The verdict is that you are a self-aggrandizing person who likes to correct other people, who comes in a vain boast that he has some authority, because he’s been doing this for a long time. You have no authority. You don’t know the Word of God. And you are on a path of fruitlessness.

              You cannot bring people to Jesus Christ if you do not know the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

              What you win them with is what you win them to.

              Do you even know who Jesus Christ is?

            • james amen

              cintus:
              you have gone too far with THE LORD’S patience with you.
              you dare so much as to call HIS obedient children “liars”, who have lovingly obeyed THE LORD with their service and helped countless millions, if not billions, since CHRIST.. giving them their sight through THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT and even raising the dead.. and ALL in the presence of witnesses all around the world.
              THE LORD has this message for you, you wicked servant of satan.
              get your house in-order.
              you are going to see THE POWER OF THE LORD, and when all the witnesses of these words shall see your silence from this place,
              your evil disobedience shall be their salvation.
              i shake the dust of my feet of you.

            • Mayhem

              Feigning indignation and removing yourself from the debate isn’t anything new either, james amen, we’ve seen it many times over the best part of the last decade.

              1 Peter 3:15

              But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

              … can you not suffer, evangelist?

              Oh and if you want to know my name…

              [email protected]

              … on condition of confidentiality i’ll tell ya that and much more besides.

            • james amen

              dear beforeitsnews:
              THE LORD has this message for you as well..
              you are boldless cowards who do not acknowledge JESUS’ name.
              be warned..HE is going to spit you out of HIS mouth unless
              you repent. HE will allow your adversaries, whom you report
              against in your own strength, to cut you off.
              message delivered.

            • Cintus Supremus

              “…who have lovingly obeyed THE LORD with their service…”

              Who, James? Hypocrites like you who come here to teach error and to demand that others obey YOUR rules? Is that obedience to the Lord?

              “…even raising the dead…”

              Let me know when you start raising the dead or walking on water, fella. You are NOT Jesus Christ. And neither are your imaginary millions who obey His commands and wield His powers.

              “THE LORD has this message for you, you wicked servant of satan.”

              James. You do not speak for the Lord. Stop your mouth or it will be stopped for you.

              “…i shake the dust of my feet of you.”

              You shake the dust of your feet of me? Well, I would take that as an insult, I guess, if I had any idea what it meant. Maybe try calming down a bit before posting? That way, righteous indignation doesn’t get the better of you and render your communication incomprehensible.

              Just a suggestion, fella.

            • james amen

              dear m:
              you misperceive my separation from the conversation, again, like all your other struggles with this conversation.. it is fundamentally due to your not understanding THE WORD OF GOD. JESUS said those who not HIS, CANNOT understand SCRIPTURE: I CO ch2.
              throughout THE NEW TESTAMENT, JESUS spells~out exactly HOW to conduct spiritual conversations with “unbelievers”. in a nut~shell, THE LORD COMMANDS to measure a person’s heart attitude toward the words being spoken to them. if a person’s heart is receptive to JESUS, then i’m to maintain with that person; HOWEVER, [and this is the part that the rebellious world DOES NOT want to accept about JESUS..] when a person is ‘hard-hearted’ and ‘will NOT listen’, then THE
              LORD COMMANDS me to ‘walk away from that person, and have nothing to do with them’: Matthew 10:14-15; 2 Timothy 3:5 and Titus 3:9-11.
              to reply to you is still my obligation according to THE WORD; because your attitude has been different; but, when a person shows that they just argue to argue, then, again, Matthew 5:39 COMMANDS me ‘DO NOT debate with an evil person’.
              when JESUS says to me ‘have NOTHING to do with that person, because that person is self-condemned, and DO NOT waste your time with that person’ [Matthew 10:14-15; 2 Timothy 3:5 and Titus 3:9-11], then that is EXACTLY what it means.
              if a person has a problem with that, then they need to take that up, not with me, but with THE LORD.

            • Cintus Supremus

              “…THE LORD COMMANDS me to ‘walk away from that person, and have nothing to do with them’…”

              That is exactly so, James. But what He never commanded you to do was to become offended when you meet folks who have a better understanding of the Gospel than you do. Doing so only reveals your pride and it makes you an unfit messenger of His Word.

              “…when a person (Cintus Supremus perhaps?) shows that they just argue to argue, then, again, Matthew 5:39 COMMANDS me ‘DO NOT debate with an evil person’.”

              This you use as an excuse, because it has been shown conclusively, right here on this very page, that you don’t know how to answer very simple questions about the Gospel. Have you asked me any questions about the Gospel that I was unwilling or unable to answer, James? Certainly not. You just presumed that yours was the superior knowledge (seventeen years, and all) and told me more than once I hadn’t even read the New Testament. That is arrogance followed on by false witness, plain and simple.

              “…when JESUS says to me ‘have NOTHING to do with that person, because that person is self-condemned, and DO NOT waste your time with that person’…”

              Rather the insinuation, James. Let us recall God’s many Old Testament warnings about what will befall presumptuous men who dare to speak a word for God when God has not spoken. Do you level that charge against me? I can’t help noticing, you didn’t come right out and say so – probably because you think that covers you with plausible deniability. But I think you’re only being duplicitous. How say you?

              Here’s another question, James…

              Do you even know why the apostles were commanded to kick the dust from their feet? Do you understand even that much?

            • james amen

              dear m:
              you misperceive my separation from the converation, again, like
              all your other struggles with this conversation.. it is
              fundamentally due to your not understanding THE WORD OF GOD.
              JESUS said those who not HIS, CANNOT understand SCRIPTURE:
              I CO ch2.
              throughout THE NEW TESTAMENT, JESUS spells~out exactly HOW to
              conduct spiritual conversations with “unbelievers”.
              in a nut~shell, THE LORD COMMANDS to measure a person’s heart
              attitude toward the words being spoken to them. if a person’s
              heart is receptive to JESUS, then i’m to maintain with that
              person; HOWEVER, [and this is the part that the rebellious
              world DOES NOT want to accept about JESUS..] when a person
              is ‘hard-hearted’ and ‘will NOT listen’, then THE LORD
              COMMANDS me to ‘walk away from that person, and have nothing
              to do with them’: Matthew 10:14-15; 2 Timothy 3:5 and Titus
              3:9-11.
              to reply to you is still my obligation according to THE WORD;
              because your attitude has been different; but, when a person
              shows that they just argue to argue, then, again, Matthew 5:39
              COMMANDS me ‘DO NOT debate with an evil person’.
              when JESUS says to me ‘have NOTHING to do with that person,
              because that person is self-condemned, and DO NOT waste your
              time with that person’ [Matthew 10:14-15; 2 Timothy 3:5 and
              Titus 3:9-11], then that is EXACTLY what it means.
              if a person has a problem with that, then they need to take that
              up, not with me, but with THE LORD.

            • Cintus Supremus

              “…THE LORD COMMANDS me to ‘walk away from that person, and have nothing to do with them’…”

              That is exactly so, James. But what He never commanded you to do was to become offended when you meet folks who have a better understanding of the Gospel than you do. Doing so only reveals your pride and it makes you an unfit messenger of His Word.

              “…when a person (Cintus Supremus perhaps?) shows that they just argue to argue, then, again, Matthew 5:39 COMMANDS me ‘DO NOT debate with an evil person’.”

              This you use as an excuse, because it has been shown conclusively, right here on this very page, that you don’t know how to answer very simple questions about the Gospel. Have you asked me any questions about the Gospel that I was unwilling or unable to answer, James? Certainly not. You just presumed that yours was the superior knowledge (seventeen years, and all) and told me more than once I hadn’t even read the New Testament. That is arrogance followed on by false witness, plain and simple.

              “…when JESUS says to me ‘have NOTHING to do with that person, because that person is self-condemned, and DO NOT waste your time with that person’…”

              Rather the insinuation, James. Let us recall God’s many Old Testament warnings about what will befall presumptuous men who dare to speak a word for God when God has not spoken. Do you level that charge against me? I can’t help noticing, you didn’t come right out and say so – probably because you think that covers you with plausible deniability. But I think you’re only being duplicitous. How say you?

              Here’s another question, James…

              Do you even know why the apostles were commanded to kick the dust from their feet? Do you understand even that much?

            • Cintus Supremus

              Now James…

              …enough with the unpleasantries. Let me help you out a little here. See, when someone asks you a simple question like, how are we saved?, and you give an erroneous answer like, by being ‘born~again’…

              …well, I see that as somewhat of a problem. Don’t you?

              Romans 10:9

              if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, YOU WILL BE SAVED…

              It also does not bode well for your study habits that in seventeen years you have not learned we are saved from GOD’S WRATH:

              Romans 5:9

              Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from THE WRATH OF GOD.

              That’s how some can be saved and some not – but ALL will be reconciled to God. Salvation is not merely for a fraction of God’s creation, but for all of it. This fact destroys your understanding of hell as being ETERNAL separation from God, which it most certainly is not. I asked you to support your erroneous understanding of hell from the Bible, but of course you didn’t because you can’t. Hades is a punishment – it is the land of the dead. Tartarus is a prison in the underworld. The Gehennah of Fire is where spirits will be cast for refinement – but all who go into the flames, also come out of the flames.

              And James? Everything I say about the Word of God I can also support by using the plainly-worded verses of the Word of God. My doctrine and my beliefs come straight from the Bible – not from any church and not from any traditions of men.

              I freely submit these claims to any test you might care to subject them to, in keeping with admonition of the Apostle Peter, already posted above by Mayhem.

          • Mayhem

            How are we saved, james amen, and from what?

            Get it right and this won’t have been a waste of your time.

            • Cintus Supremus

              ^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^

              [email protected]

              Any time, evangelist. Perhaps if you put us to the test — according to Scripture — you might be surprised by a thing or two.

            • james amen

              dear m:
              [please see my last answer to you above, i did not see this message of yours before i wrote that just aboe]..
              you keep asking me ‘how are we saved?’ .. i’ll just say what i have already told you… when you confess that JESUS IS LORD, you have to also acknowledge that you are a sinner who cannot save yourself by any means ['saving' means being kept from THE LORD'S JUDGMENT against you, for, your sins deserve punishment: Romans 6:23: ' For the wages of sin is death'], but, that ONLY JESUS GOD, THE SAVIOUR, can do so. HE does this by washing your spirit. HE washes your spirit with HIS BLOOD. HE washes you when you ask HIM. you ask HIM through a prayer. here is a COPY of the prayer [from my words up above]..‘dear LORD JESUS, oh, PLEASE forgive me of all my sins..PLEASE have mercy on me..i DO believe that you are THE LORD, and i DO believe that YOU raised YOURSELF from the grave.. i DO believe that YOU LOVE me SO much that YOU were willing to die for me on THE CROSS, in my place. THANK YOU SO MUCH, LORD. help me to love YOU with all my soul, heart, mind and strength, LORD. help me to also serve YOU, LORD, faithfully. help me so that people can see YOU in me. thank YOU, JESUS. in YOUR precious BLOOD and NAME, amen’.
              this is what is being ‘born~again’; NOT what you said “RESURRECTION”. ‘RESURRECTION’ is being ‘GLORIFIED’; NOT ‘born~again’. ‘born~again’ is while a person is alive; ‘GLORIFICATION’ is after a person dies and is a child~of~GOD.

              saved from what? i told you. every person has a spirit that will live for ETERNITY. any person who has NOT been washed by JESUS’ BLOOD will not be allowed into HEAVEN [where JESUS lives: again, John 14:3.
              they will be separated from JESUS for ETERNITY..this is ‘hell’.
              prayers that you hear and understand this.

            • Mayhem

              I’m struggling with this conversation, according to james amen, yet i’m not the one leaving a bunch of questions unanswered.

              Namely…

              1) – On what basis do you leave it all to Jesus?

              2) – Where is it written that being baptized is the new birth?

              3) – How are we saved?

              4) – From what are we saved?

              5) – Where does Jesus say that He needs to fix our corrupted spirit before He can bring us to His holy home?

              6) – Where did Jesus say we would dwell in heaven?

              7) – Where is it written that hell is the eternal separation from God?

              8) – Where is it said that Adamkind has freewill?

              9) – Can you handle poisonous snakes?

              10) – Can you drink poison unharmed?

              … in which case i’m confident the reader can decide who doesn’t understand scripture.

            • Cintus Supremus

              Mayhem will be along in short order, but in the mean time I’ll keep answering anyway since this used to be a three-way conversation. I don’t abide by your hasty proud and judgmental tantrum to kick me out of the conversation we were all having.

              You wrote:

              “…’saving’ means being kept from THE LORD’S JUDGMENT against you…”

              Judgment is NOT the same thing as wrath, James. When the Bible uses distinct words to convey distinct ideas [judgment = κρίση; wrath = oργή], if we conflate and confound those words we do so amiss. ALL will stand before the Judgment Seat of God’s Court.

              “…HE washes you when you ask HIM…”

              Chapter and verse, please.

              “…they will be separated from JESUS for ETERNITY… this is ‘hell’.”

              A thing does not become true merely because we say it and repeat it, James. You will never be able to support that error with Scripture. You do not understand hell and it can be argued that you scarcely understand salvation.

            • Cintus Supremus

              “Mayhem will be along in short order…”

              As I was. Mayhem has arrived!!!

            • Mayhem

              No, james amen, it is not from judgement that we are saved for we will all stand before God’s judgment seat (Romans 14:10) with “we” being defined as all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be his holy people (Romans 1:7).

              It is God’s wrath that believers are spared from not judgement. Who doesn’t know scripture, james amen, who indeed.

            • james amen

              mayhem [properly identified]:
              you have just exposed your evil motives.. just like a criminal that
              leaves the evidence of his crime.. you just proved that you have been
              lying ALL along..
              PROOF: you responded so fast from my last answer,
              that it is IMPOSSIBLE that you could have read my answer.
              your wicked headgames ALL come to an end at ‘THE MARRIAGE SUPPER OF THE LAMB’ when your smirk and your attitude is gone as you ‘shall be sitting across from me’: Psalms 23:5.
              you, also, refuse to listen; therefore, i shake the dust of my feet
              of you.

            • Mayhem

              I accept, with regret, your refusal to answer ten straightforward questions.

              An evangelist unable to evangelize!

              Whatever is next?

            • Cintus Supremus

              “…i shake the dust of my feet of you…”

              Could you please, please, at least learn how to say that correctly, James?

              Hear the Word of God from we who (allegedly) do not know the Word of God:

              Matthew 10:14

              And if anyone will not receive you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet when you leave that house or town.

              See? Shake OFF the dust. And it is not OF you. It is AGAINST you. You say:

              I shake OFF the dust of my feet AGAINST you.

              (‘…as a testimony against them…’ Luke 9:5)

              That would at least be biblically-sound speech (but ignoring, of course, whether you use that speech according to the WORD).

              Stop making up your own Bible, James. And stop imagining you’ll be rewarded for botching everything as badly as you are. You’re setting yourself up for one terrible disappointment.

              Learn the Gospel of Jesus Christ before you try to evangelize people with it. I would recommend another seventeen years of study, James. And this time, please make sure you’re holding the Bible right~side~up!!!

              :lol: :lol: :lol:

    • james amen

      if you are frustrated about rampant, world-wide pedophilia not
      being pursued by law enforcement and stopped, then please know
      the following as to why, and what you can do..
      as an evangelist, lover of people, and student of human
      behaviour.. i endeavored to research this subject to find out
      what was going on. here are my findings:
      as it turns out, [unless a person is apart of child-trafficking]
      you are not even REMOTELY aware of how vast, how widespread
      (pandemic) pedophilia actually is worldwide. pedophilia is,
      literally, to the world as what cancer is. there is nothing
      ANYBODY can do about pedophilia now; except THE LORD JESUS
      CHRIST. pedophilia has become so massive an
      evil underground operation, that, literally, has millions upon
      millions of high-positioned, power-brokers of the world
      ensnared in its grip. with the numbers accurately in
      perspective, it should be easy to understand why events like
      “pizzagate” are going NOWHERE. sure, exposing “pizzagate”
      helps a handful of victims, but, realistically, law enforcements’
      efforts with this are equivalent to giving chemotherapy to a
      one cancer patient.. when there are millions upon millions of
      other diseased standing in line.
      dear born~again christians:PRAYERS ARE ALL THAT IS LEFT THAT CAN BE DONE.
      no man can do anything. ONLY THE LORD.

      • Anonymous

        In my lifetime I have seen far more peds operating within the clergy than anywhere else.

        • james amen

          dear anonymous:
          with all due respect, your response is only ‘half-true’.
          the truth~part is that you have ONLY HEARD about the clergy; and this is because the church is
          under more scrutiny due to the nature of a line of work centered around sin.
          the falsehood in your statement is your false implication: as if pedophilia is MORE RAMPANT in the church. this is proving grossly false in two MAJOR ways: pedophilia is a problem within ROMAN CATHOLICISM AND ORTHODOX christianity. well, anonymous,..ROMAN CATHOLICISM AND ORTHODOX are not true christianities. THE BIBLE refers to these forms as ‘harlotry’ christianity. TRUE christian leaders HELP the oppressed.
          secondly, evidence is exposing that pedophilia in government and business-people and global power-brokers BLOWS THE NUMBER OF CLERGY AWAY!
          do some research, anonymous, see the truth.

    • Nanar

      Funny how history turns to legend, then turn to myths and finally to “conspiracy” theories.

      Templars were people of their times. Neither black nor white.
      They had sworn an oath of obedience to the pope and they have followed this oath even under torture.
      this is why when Le Bel came for their head and that Clement V ordered them to surrender, they did not fight back.

      since Clement V was being somewhat held hostage by Le Bel, he did not confront the king’s order. However, it does look like he did what he could to save them (don’t forget that Clement V was in Avignon and not in Rome).

      It is clear that some Templars escaped to the Malt Order, or to scotland / England and probably even to Canada.

      Military religious orders of that time where not very keen on keeping an history record.
      However, the judgement of the Templar is very well documented for those who wishes to dwell on facts rather than distorted claims..

      And all of you forget that this was the time of anti-pope / pope conflicts and the schisms of Christianity were quite frequent in this era.

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