MSNBC Suggests Obama Not Born in a Hawaiian Hospital

MSNBC’s Savannah Guthrie joins Chris Matthews becoming the network’s second confirmed ‘birther’ as the leftist media conglomerate continues its spiral into obliviousness about Obama’s biography while his missing documents confound the inferior minds of self-proclaimed ‘experts’
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A Daily Pen editorial
by Daniel Crosby

When the truth is against you, impending judgment ultimately forces you to surrender and repent, or else, perish with your crumbling lies. The longer Obama’s supporters try to fill the vast, empty chasms of his covert biography with sermons of fawning, dishonest propaganda, the more they unravel into an incoherent psychosis under the crushing weight of the impending, cataclysmic reality rampaging toward them.

Some at MSNBC are repenting.

For example, MSNBC’s Savannah Guthrie and Chuck Todd co-host “The Daily Rundown”, a typically left-leaning program which attempts to focus on the top political stories of the day and is presented in a liberal-friendly format with reports and analysis from the Washington D.C. bureau of NBC News.

The show airs at 9:00 a.m, Monday thru Friday.

During the April 4, 2011 broadcast of the show, the two pundits conducted an interview with Politifact.com editor, Bill Adair, as yet another post-mortem twitch following the Donald-Trump-Calls-Out-Obama tour a week ago.

Regarding Obama’s covert Hawaiian birth records, at one point in the interview, Guthrie asked, “…so what they release is the ‘short-form’, but presumably, is there a long-form somewhere in the bowels of some bureaucratic building in Hawaii, and if so, why don’t they pull it out?”

Invoking the Chris Matthews ‘Devil’s Advocate to Birtherism’ technique, Savannah Guthrie just became a birther! Welcome to the party.

Good question, Savannah! You’ve finally identified the essence of the problem faced by Obama. The next step in the deductive process typically used by intelligent people is to consider the actual possible reasons why ‘they don’t pull it out’. However, you must do this without consideration for how any revelations of said reasons will adversely, or favorably, affect your favorite political idol. Its an ancient form of media practice called investigative journalism.

The 2012 pre-campaign media blast included an interview on ‘Rundown’ with Donald Trump last week during which Trump said that he wants Obama to produce a real birth certificate and that the reason Obama refuses to disclose his original natal documentation is because it might show that he is ineligible to be president.

Trump, unlike many in government today, appears to understand the importance of upholding Constitutional sovereignty through our President without respect for the political welfare of the individual holding the office.

On this episode of ‘Rundown’, Adair was brought on the show to rebut “The Donald”. Unfortunately, as we have become accustomed to seeing when this network attempts “journalism”, the conversation between these three devolved into a confusing back-and-forth replete with utter disinformation, outright dishonesty and laughable ignorance as they fumbled through Obama’s undocumented Hawaiian natal history.

The first sign indicating there was a problem with this exchange, like so many others on this network, the interview began with gushing plaudits when Adair was announced by the hosts, as a member of the ‘Pulitzer Prize winning’ Politifact, completely disregarding the utter tank this organization has been in for Obama since America’s first not-all-white, illegitimate candidate for president announced his candidacy. We won’t go into the details about Obama’s history and abetment by Politifact. If you want to know about this, please research it. It’s old news.

“What is your response to Donald Trump’s claims, last week?” Todd asked Adair.

“We have researched this extensively. The Obama campaign released a digitally created document called a ‘Certificate of Live Birth’ in the fall of 2008. Hawaii has said that this is a real document,” replied Adair.

Aside from Adair’s obvious genius in recognizing its existential qualities, he misidentifies the ‘CertificaTION of Live Birth’ as a “CertifiCATE of Live Birth. There is a big difference at it pertains to Obama, as we all know.

Recap, again, for the millionth time. A ‘Certification of Live Birth’ is an independently published cover document created only since 2001 by a remote municipality way out in the Pacific Ocean, in Hawaii, not by the federal authority of the U.S. Department of Health, National Vital Statistics Division in 1961, when Obama was allegedly born. Unfortunately for Obama and his O-bots, the Office of the President is a federal office, not an office held in the state of Hawaii…thank God, but, we digress.

So, right off the bat, it is apparent that Mr. Adair may not have researched as extensively as he claims.

Most importantly, however, the ‘extensive researcher’, Adair, also fails to include that the “Certification of Live Birth” is deficient in allowing for the determination of natural-born qualifications of a presidential candidate. In Obama’s case, the unconfirmed document only indicates the location of the registration of a birth by the department of Health, not the actual location of the occurrence of a medically verified “Live” birth in a Hospital or other facility with professional medical personnel or eyewitnesses who are qualified to attest documents certifying a vital event in the United States. If the Certification of Live Birth were authentic like the original, 1961 Certificate of Live Birth, it would contain the identity and signatures of the attending physicians, the identity and signatures of the informant, the identity and signatures of the hospital administrator and the name of the hospital. Obama’s does not.

Moreover, Obama’s ‘Certification of Live Birth’ does not indicate the citizenship status or birthplace of the parents, nor does it indicate whether the birth subject was adopted or whether the birth was, in anyway, originally documented through administrative processes which would possibly indicate a plural natal identity which, if shown to be true, would disqualify a presidential candidate.

These vital pieces of information are required to determine the natural-born status of the birth subject.

Adair’s response reveals the long-standing flaw about Obama supporters in that they lust to endow exclusive authority in determining Obama’s ‘natural-born’ eminence exclusively to the Hawaiian Department of Health, because this is the only entity on the planet willing to construct the information in an ambiguously misleading manner which supports Obama’s desire to conceal the authentic, original documents created in 1961.

Between its nonsensical records laws and its subversively liberal state legislature; Its administrative rules which allow everything from cover documents-in-lieu-of-authentic-originals, it has become clear the state of Hawaii is the foremost suspect in the abetment of Obama’s criminal presidency.

For someone claiming to have ‘researched this extensively’, Adair was shockingly unintelligible about the facts surrounding Obama’s Hawaiian origins, but the contaminated interview continued.

“There is another piece of evidence which is, as I understand, is contemporaneous…a birth announcement in the local paper in 1961?” asked Guthrie.

“Correct,” replied Adair, “and this to me is even more persuasive in many ways, because it’s published in the paper…for it to be put there in two papers…in the two Honolulu newspapers it was placed by the department of health…”

“They do it! Not the families!” Todd interrupted, pointing to a copy of the birth announcements.

“This is county produced! The same way…because right next to it are marriage applications! Which we have up here. Marriage applications which also it’s not as if…people filed with the county…and death notices…the same thing, whenever the county recorded a death certificate, correct?”

Okay, Chuck…since you mention it. Let’s talk about the marriage announcements.

While you are exalting the DOH with authority to use newspaper announcements to declare Obama ‘natural-born’, please tell us why Obama parents’ marriage announcements have never been found in the same papers as the birth announcements. They were allegedly married in Hawaii in February, 1961.

Maybe the Department of Health or the newspapers were closed that day.

Todd’s implication that Obama was born on the offices of the Department of Health in Hawaii is a new low for Obama’s blind supporters. Like so many other shills for Obama, he is so one dimensional in is pro-Obama thought structure that he never considers that the most important fact concerning the birth announcements is not whether members of Obama’s family provided information directly to the newspapers, but rather, that the information for the announcements was most importantly, not provided to the newspapers directly by the alleged medical facility in which Obama was born! Todd completely ignores this fact because he wants to endow the Hawaiian Department of Health with the authority to validate Obama, exclusively.

Essentially, there have evolved four entities in this conversation:

1. The Department of Health.
2. The Obama/Dunham Family.
3. An unconfirmed hospital and,
4. The newspapers.

Of these four, only the hospital is a preeminent authority qualified to demonstrate that Obama is natural-born.

The Department of Health does not have a maternity ward or attend births, the family cannot be held accountable due to their personal interests, and the newspapers print whatever the Department of Health tells them to – regardless of the original sources used to create the information for birth announcements in the first place.

Obama was not born at the offices of the Department of Health in 2007! He was not born at the newspapers’ offices on August 11 when the announcements were published. Therefore, the officials which these pundits so excruciatingly exalt as authorities in determining Obama’s constitutional eligibility are essentially, municipal tools used in a chain of command to process information provided to them by the initial authority – the medically qualified individual or individuals in the hospital where the birth is first verified.

Adair continued, “And, it says there, ‘a son born to Mr. and Mrs. Barack Obama…so for there to be any sort of conspiracy you had to have a lot of groups working together here.”

“You mean in other words, the department of Health had to be in on the conspiracy fifty years ago…” said Guthrie.

“Exactly,” replied Adair.

“And, so, I think this is corroborating evidence that the birth certificate is authentic, and, uh, you know…” added Adair.

“Well, just to be totally clear,” interrupted Guthrie, “when the Honolulu advertiser and the other paper has a birth announcement like this, the presumption is that this is a birth that has taken place in Hawaii, because it does not say ‘born in Honolulu’.”

“Correct,” replied Adair.

“But, it (the paper) only reports births which happen in Hawaii.” Continued Savannah.

“Exactly,” replied Adair, “…and the birth certificate says that the birth was in Honolulu.”

Adair and Guthrie have gone down the rabbit hole at this point. Adair is so ridiculously wrong, it is hard to imagine the word Pulitzer is used in conjunction with his name. The fact is that that Department of Health has registered foreign births in Hawaii for more than 90 years and that the newspapers do not care whether the birth occurs in Hawaii or not. The newspapers print from a list of birth registrations which only indicate the address of the registrant, not the location of the birth.

Adair becomes less of an expert the more he talks.

Then, appearing to shift accountability from Obama to the Republican party, Todd said, “You know, Bill, the cynical side of what I’ve heard from republicans on this is ‘okay, we don’t dispute that he was born in Hawaii’, but they are trying to smoke out the real birth certificate because they think there will be something else on the birth certificate, perhaps his religious denomination…did Hawaii even have that on their birth certificate in 1961?”

In Adair’s shockingly ignorant reply, he said, “Well, I am not sure about the religious faith but I would doubt it. Hawaiian officials have said that what is in their files, a certificate of Live birth, contains the same information as the one produced online…”

At that moment it became apparent that Adair had no idea what he was talking about. Just as was expected. If an individual who claims to have researched the issue of Obama’s undocumented eligibility extensively does not know that the religion of a baby is not shown the 1961 Certificate of Live Birth, he is not qualified to have this conversation.

“Whatever was on the original one is what they produce now!” interjected Todd, incorrectly.

If the DOH produced a Certification of Live Birth with ‘whatever was on the original’, Todd would know that it would contain, among other things, the identity of the doctor or witness to the birth and the name of the hospital in which the original document was issued. It would also indicate the usual residence of the mother, the birthplace of both parents, the age of the mother, and 30 other pieces of critical information which do not appear on Hawaii’s fallow document.

Then, Guthrie seemed to crack under the weight of the truth as she began to think outside the Obama box.

“Okay,” she added, “…so what they release is the ‘short-form’, but presumably, is there a long-form somewhere in the bowels of some bureaucratic building in Hawaii, and if so, why don’t they pull it out?”

Invoking the Chris Matthews Devil’s Advocate technique, Savannah Guthrie just became a birther!

Adair replied, “We asked the health officials that, and they said for all intents and purposes, they are the same document and what is on that computer generated document are the same things that are on the long-form and that the words ‘long-form’ are really not good terminology.”

Adair did not venture to ask, if the two documents are so much alike, then why doesn’t Obama just produce the original one created in 1961? Since they are exactly the same, then just produce both of them and end this controversy, once and for all.

Adair went on to say that, recently, Donald Trump had claimed that no one remembers Obama from school and that Trump was wrong because there is plenty of people who went to school with Barack Obama who remember him at all levels, they have been very public about it…

Adair could not name even one of them however.

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