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9/11 Masterminds - Explosive Connections (Updated Version) - Video

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Pat Nicolello

Pat Nicolello3 years ago

The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth . So help us God

Mark Colquitt

Mark Colquitt5 years ago

hello conspiracy freaks.

visionquest414

visionquest4146 years ago

That’s because they were remote controlled planes. Dov zakheim, who is mentioned in the video at the end was the ceo of such a company. Look that up bud.

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txguynnh

txguynnh6 years ago

I’m down with this video and believe this was an inside job, but I don’t believe a person could have flown a jet into an exact location of one tower or the other in order to take out one company or another. What I do believe is that no matter where the Jets hit, the companies involved would have been full of well connected, inside trading, embezzling, crooked, unethical, pieces of trash who put money and power above human life. I want to be a CEO, but not at the cost of my soul.

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Raybow Bow

Raybow Bow6 years ago

Very well researched and informed video. Thank you for uploading it. The laws of the land do not apply to those who were behind 9/11 and all the other false flag operations. The people of this planet are expendable and nothing more than a commodity to those who orchestrated 9/11 and the wars that followed.

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Diana SUNSHINE Wulf

Diana SUNSHINE Wulf7 years ago

@evilstoo 7-7-05 LONDON

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ChicagoDreamer5

ChicagoDreamer57 years ago

Wow! Thanks so much for this! <3

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evilstoo

evilstoo7 years ago

…. coincidence? …. Inside job rings true….

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William Osdborne

William Osdborne7 years ago

Absolutely awesome!!!!!! Thank you.

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lexicon008

lexicon0087 years ago

@beachcomber2008 “The floors slid as if on rails down to the basement where they impacted Gzero at 120 mph” wait a sec..are you actually trying to say the floors pancaked? Because if you are you might wanna go re-read the NIST report.

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

@JSSTyger “You are harnessing the entire “energy” of the collapse and directing it to a point” Well, no Hot air and hot concrete was made as well – but those materials don’t store heat at all well, so the bulk of the heat HAD to be in the steel Gravity was doing the “concentrating” as best it could If the steel HAD melted it would have formed a layer only six feet deep within the floor plan The floors slid as if on rails down to the basement where they impacted Gzero at 120 mph You’ve seen that

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JSSTyger

JSSTyger7 years ago

@beachcomber2008 Ok so I did mistake the “500 tons” for “500,000 tons”… But the big question remains…why would all that energy be so concentrated? You are harnessing the entire “energy” of the collapse and directing it to a point. This is VERY unlikely. We’re talking molten steel here. I mean, come on. This is “not logical”.

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

@JSSTyger The actual quote is that the “steel had the potential energy to melt 500 tons of itself”, and I had originally quoted the established weight of the tower steelwork to be 253,000 tons I had to go one week and 19 pages back for that. And it’s perfectly true I had omitted the REST of the building

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

@JSSTyger If you include the TOTAL weight of the tower, then THAT potential energy would have raised 1,422 tons of steel to its melting point, & the heat in that steel wasn’t going to dissipate when it was so nicely insulated… “Why would all of that energy be so concentrated?” – Almost existentialist… Because the tower stood over its base? Wasn’t most of it destined for directly beneath itself? You know, the direction entitled DOWN? The direction GRAVITY was accelerating it towards?

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

@JSSTyger “If u dropped” – is an interesting question. Depends on how it lands – at 200 mph, directly on end, the energy densities would certainly upset it. This is 4 times LESS energetic: watch?v=6dI5ewOmHPQ “how much steel would be molten” – None of it. Please don’t spiral once more down the “molten metal = molten steel” snake. To “raise to melting point” is not to MELT, and molten material in the basement (if it existed at all) had had lots of time to become a low melting point eutectic alloy

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JSSTyger

JSSTyger7 years ago

@beachcomber2008 Its not a strawman argument. You said “500 tons of steel would melt itself”. “It DOESN’T allow you to deny that energy was THERE and enough to raise 1,422 tons of steel to 1550 deg C”. Why would all of that energy be so concentrated? Thats a pathetic tiny amount anyhow. If you dropped one steel beam the full height of the tower, how much of that steel would be molten post impact?

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

@lexicon008 “theoretically, the collapses could have opened a mini wormhole” – That’s a hypothesis and not a theory I see what you’re doing, You communicate here using digital techniques developed from quantum theory Quantum theory is a physics NEVER SEEN BY HUMAN EYE, but the theory WORKS, doesn’t it? Mechanics has had 300 years of development from Newtonian mechanics, and has created wonderfully elaborate and devastating weaponry. Such products of THEORY are undeniably REAL

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

@lexicon008 “destroyed 99.5% of the steel” – The towers were very modular & I guess 0.5% is sufficient to cover the steel events “followed the national fire investigation guidelines” – I think they KNEW the fire had been started with12 tons of kerosine, and worked from THAT “some people call that a crime” – & others SLANDER without proper evidence. That’s a crime if it can be proved to have harmed the reputation of the victims. In Ur case, no crime because no-one believes claims without evidence

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

@lexicon008 “it, once again, is just a theory” – As the above links to something nonexistent also are – just damn theories – and what is more – they are useless

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lexicon008

lexicon0087 years ago

@beachcomber2008 the reality is we wouldn’t be having this conversation is the officials at the scene had followed proper procedures in preservation of evidence. If they hadn’t destroyed 99.5% of the steel before the investigations got started. If they actually followed the national fire investigation guidelines, we would have a better idea what happened here. But no, ignore the law, ignore the procedures and destroy the evidence as quick as you can..some people call that a crime

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lexicon008

lexicon0087 years ago

@beachcomber2008 could have..and did are 2 completely different things..theoretically, the collapses could have opened a mini wormhole into the core of a star and this heat melted the steel..ask a theoretical physicist and im sure they will say thats possible too, is it likely to have happened? No. While i agree that what your saying is theoretically possible, unless you can show this is what happened and prove it using real world tests it, once again, is just a theory.

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

@lexicon008 “the reality is that it didn’t melt the steel or anything for that matter” – is simply a DENIAL OF PHYSICS. Go and ask any engineer you like (if you know any) if the potential energy released by the fall of the tower couldn’t easily explain the heat in the basement. Ask him whether heat-soaking such steel in an insulation of gypsum couldn’t produce a eutectic iron alloy which would be molten “still waiting for their explanation” – Wow. I bet they’re on tenterhooks about that.

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lexicon008

lexicon0087 years ago

@beachcomber2008 so what if the energy was there..the reality is that it didn’t melt the steel or anything for that matter. You can sugar coat it all you want but if this is supposed to explain the presence of the molten steel/metal then prove it with verifyable experiment in the real world and not some math thesis. As i have said there is no real world example of your theory, until there is it’s just that..a theory.

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lexicon008

lexicon0087 years ago

@beachcomber2008 Nope it doesn’t add up to a career which is why i find it hilarious that people like you bash the work and effort of PhDs in physics, mechanical and stru tural engineers, architects, fire protection engineers and others with as much or more experience then you. Most of these guys have worked or taught in their fields for decades. It was a high school physic teacher who forced NIST to admit that free fall did in fact happen in wtc 7..still waiting for their explanation….

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

I apologize to each of you here for mixing the two of you up. It’s what happens when one mislays one’s reading glasses

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

@JSSTyger “internal resistance of the connections would stop that” The connections that remained unbroken by floors collapsing would have done just that It’s your tunnel vision here that pretends the surrounding structure was whole and COOL, when in fact it was ALMOST at the point of failure itself What probably started it off was the elastic response of the structure to the first collapsing floor – its BOUNCE All bets were off once it shook itself

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

@lexicon008 “It does not represent the situation” Haha. That “physics course” did you little good, then. Was it PSEUDOphysics? – OF COURSE IT REPRESENTS THE SITUATION “this is similar to a nail bed” Of course it is. Just make sure the nails are FIFTEEN FEET LONG. Idiot

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

@JSSTyger “You must think you are the only one here who has taken a physics course” – Well bully for you. But does it add up to a career? By your single beam analogy you are returning to the idea of “the fall melting the building” – the straw man argument which so damages your thinking, and you think so weak. It is, but it’s a STRAW MAN It DOESN’T allow you to deny that the energy was THERE and enough to raise 1,422 tons of steel to 1550 deg C

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JSSTyger

JSSTyger7 years ago

@beachcomber2008 You must think you are the only one here who has taken a physics course. Take one 20,000kg beam. (450J/°C/kg)(20,000kg) = 9,000,000J/°C Multiply by 1350°C and you have 12,150,000,000J required to bring this beam to its melting point.. 450,000 kg of steel falling on average 200m has a PE of nearly 900,000,000J. The totality of the falling mass still doesn’t provide enough “kick” to melt just a 20,000kg beam. Not even for a 2,000kg beam The PE argument is weak

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lexicon008

lexicon0087 years ago

@beachcomber2008 this is similar to a nail bed performer..put 1 nail on the bed..they get peirced..put a thousand mails..not damage since the mass is distributed. Showing 1 beam buckling under load means nothing since for every new beam you add with the same load the likelyhood of collapse decreases since the load is fixed. In the towers the loads were not completely fixed since there was damage, but they had safety factors and were overengineered to begin with

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lexicon008

lexicon0087 years ago

@beachcomber2008 all that video proved is that yes, things will buckle under enough load. It does not represent the situation in the towers at all since it is a single column, it is not made of structural steel, not designeded in the same fashion, not corss braced and engineered to resist the buckling and basically is a totally irrelevant example. In order for 2 sec of free fall over 500 columns would have had to buckle without any resistance across 8 floors when not all were damaged

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lexicon008

lexicon0087 years ago

@beachcomber2008 a) there was not 1 column holding up these buildings..in wtc 7 there were over 70 perimeter and core columns. b) the critical failure column was not free standing at anytime..even after it lost connection due to thermal expansion there were 2 other girders that connected to it and stabilized it (NIST ignored them in their models) c) even if this column buckled, it would not cause a cascade collapse in under 7 seconds – internal resistance of the connections would stop that

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

Googlevid “VERTICAL COLUMN BUCKLING COLLAPSE” and the first thing to turn up is watch?v=TUE7DKNBIrU Note how collapse is SILENT and COMPLETE Note that CONSTRAINT alters rigidity Note also that in both cases the columns are undamaged by the initial collapse This is banal stuff, but counter-intuitive It’s easy to mislead yourself if you haven’t seen it In the case of a tower, a SINGLE COLUMN would always collapse upon itself The tower stands on its column restraints & without them it is finished.

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

@lexicon008 “There is always some resistance in a buckling situation” – Yeah. BEFORE FAILURE Thereafter there is sod all, bupkiss, grasshopper… What, you didn’t take my advice earlier? Well, consider how stupid you now look “VERTICAL COLUMN BUCKLING COLLAPSE” “VERTICAL”

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

“THEN they worked out that 0.34% of 450,000 tons MEANT 1,530 tons of steel could have been raised to the melt point. THEN they DROPPED the WHOLE IDEA.” This is one of the clinchers of TROOF They quote-mine lies, they fabricate lies, they CONCEAL truth when it damages their case, and finally they are HYPOCRITES, exhibiting EVERY vice of those they accuse

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lexicon008

lexicon0087 years ago

@beachcomber2008 verticle buckling may cause failure or collapse but is cannot and did not allow for free fall. There is always some resistance in a buckling situation and thus free fall will not happen. By admitting to free fall NIST is admiting that nothing resisted the collapse for over 100 feet. this isnt explained by verticle buckling or they would just say so wouldn’t they..yeesh

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

@lexicon008 “It would be literally impossible without demolition” – NO. Must I keep repeating that VERTICAL COLUMN BUCKLING COLLAPSE INVOLVES SUDDEN REMOVAL OF LOAD THAT is the way IT FAILS Googlevid “VERTICAL COLUMN BUCKLING COLLAPSE” – You’re bound to find a few college experiments

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

@lexicon008 “NONE OF THE METAL” – But the tower potential energy, 9.80*10^11 Joules, had to GO SOMEWHERE, and in the form of HEAT Joules may not mean much to you, so another way of expressing that energy is 111,000 kilowatt hours It is also equivalent to exploding 233 tons of TNT Whichever way you care to look at it, that amount of energy can raise 1,422 tons of steel to its melting point

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lexicon008

lexicon0087 years ago

@beachcomber2008 wtf are you talking about “after collapse” NIST admitted and included in their updates that there was 2+ seconds of free fall during the collapse of wtc 7. they never explained how it occured since to do so would be literally impossible without some kind of demolition event since 2+ seconds of free fall means 100 feet of the structure offered ZERO resistance.

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

@lexicon008 “but never explained 2+ seconds of free fall in wtc 7″ – AFTER collapse You’re accusing them of something they didn’t do which was outside their brief If you can’t see how wrong that is, and how consistent that inaccuracy of yours applies itself to ALL these facts, well… You need it pointing out, it seems.

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lexicon008

lexicon0087 years ago

@beachcomber2008 here let me put it to you another way then.. NONE OF THE METAL in the towers is going to liquify, melt, turn into toffee like substances or vaporize due to the collapses. feel free to show us an example of this happening in any known collapse scenario.

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

@lexicon008 “they are just all nuts aren’t they” – Just another form of beauty in the eye of a beholding Mr. Magoo

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lexicon008

lexicon0087 years ago

@beachcomber2008 i mean look at you mister” i gots 40 years of mechanical engineering experience” and you will actually sit there and condone the fact that NIST ignored NFPA guidelines, they removed existing structure, they removed the thernal conductivity of steel, they grossly overexagerated temperatures, they ignored then admitted but never explained 2+ seconds of free fall in wtc 7. You just defend it all and say that there is no other possibility..keep drinking the koolaid..youll be fine

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

@lexicon008 “steel framing is not going to melt due to falling in a collapse” – Is a STRAW MAN in which you waste my time and yours Liquid iron/sulfur eutectic (at 1100 deg C) isn’t liquid STEEL (at 1550 deg C) Raising steel to the melt point STILL LEAVES SOLID STEEL, albeit like “toffee”. To melt it requires CONSIDERABLE excess energy in the latent heat of fusion of iron Why do you think the remaining core columns fell over, by the way Shouldn’t they have just remained standing?

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lexicon008

lexicon0087 years ago

@beachcomber2008 “supplying wild imagination, crap maths, and terminological inexactitude” yeah all the scientists opposing the NIST reports are just doing it to be anti extablishmentists..they don’t really like thier careers or their reputations. Has nothing to do with the fact that there is false or inacurate information in the reports. Nothing to do with the fact that NIST ignored eye witness, physical findings and standard invesigation procedures..they are just all nuts aren’t they.

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lexicon008

lexicon0087 years ago

@beachcomber2008 they likely dropped it for 1 simple reason..steel framing is not going to melt due to falling in a collapse. This is easily demostrated using any known controlled demolition. There isn’t a single example of one collapsing even with explosives and causing molten steel or molten anything for that matter. The whole idea is great in theory but is complete nonsense in reality. Multi ton aircraft crash from 32k ft and at 100′s of mph and dont liquify into molten aluminum

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

@JSSTyger “unclear thinking my ass” – It’s what you talk out of too. What does “potential energy” MEAN to you? Do you think it really exists? Why do you think ae911truth, who originally went down this line of thinking, DROPPED IT? Because they at first thought that proving the whole structure couldn’t melt itself PROVED SOMETHING THEN they worked out that 0.34% of 450,000 tons MEANT 1,530 tons of steel could have been raised to the melt point THEN they DROPPED the WHOLE IDEA

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

@JSSTyger “the PE of all the falling steel is approximately 0.34% of that required to melt the steel” Hey, kiddo, 0.34% of 450,000 tons IS 1,530 tons of yellow hot steel! ROFL U’ve made the very mistake that ae911truth made. Who said that ALL the steelwork (all 253,000 tons of it) had to be melted? Certainly not I Everything heated due 2 impact during or concluding its descent, but there is a general truth that the impact heat would B concentrated at the BASEMENT where the energy reflected BACK

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JSSTyger

JSSTyger7 years ago

@beachcomber2008 unclear thinking my ass.

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beachcomber2008

beachcomber20087 years ago

@lexicon008 “the official investigation and report are hopelessly flawed” – They say that beauty is in the eye of the beholders The beholders in this case can see about as well as Blind Pugh, or maybe Mr. Magoo. Additional to their role of supplying wild imagination, crap maths, and terminological inexactitude Well, ‘ansome is as ‘ansome does, innit?

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