Wisconsin: The Real Issue the Mainstream Media Won't Touch
The real issue and outcome of the Wisconsin Recall election is freedom of choice for people on paying Union dues. There are other items of reform and interest -but don’t be fooled as mandatory dues are the real issue. This is because when given a choice people flee Unions and their mega dues. See the below:
“The public sector union machine, once a colossus of Democratic power, looks weak in the wake of Walker’s triumph. With mandatory union dues now extinct, union membership has withered in Wisconsin. AFSCME’s Local 24 in Madison has seen its ranks drop from 22,300 to 7,100, while AFSCME’s statewide membership has been cut in half. In short, Walker has broken the long running cycle of handoffs and paybacks between union leadership and state politicians.”
Credit to CNN loink below:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/06/opinion/bennett-walker-victory/index.html
Thats right folks even CNN admits to the numbers. So here are two conclusions:
1-The fact of the matter is that Scott Walker got a lot of recently Ex-Union votes. These people didn’t drop out of paying Union Dues …just to go back to paying them.
2-The Union membership is a monolith built on a foundation of sand. While 30%-40% may be gung -ho Union members another 50% to 60% wants out and will take any opportunity to do so.
Now we all know why the Unions were freaking out at Walker. They know that their empire is built on coercian and any freedom of choice leaves their membership cratering.
If Wisconsin’s Union dues/membership freedom movement goes nationwide the Unions are toast and they know it.
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how do the dues they pay compare to the benefits they get from being a member? How will the vast wage-laboring majority have any influence at all in “their” economy without collective bargaining, and in a post Citizens v. United world?
The entire economy, domestic and global, is imperiled by a gross “factor” imbalance of societal power between capital and labor.
Kent Welton,
TheCenterForBalance.org
Kent- Please answer one question: If it’s such a good deal why are leaving in the tens of thousands?
Also: Don’t people have a right to make a choice?
The story and Freewill are right. If the Union movement can’t operate without forcing people in they don’t have much of a case.
“how do the dues they pay compare to the benefits they get from being a member?”
Benefits? Like what, multi-trillion dollar debts and an economy headed for the abyss?
Sounds like a real workers paradise.(Sarcasm)
you speak of “choice” and “free will” and yet, we have NO CHOICE but to serve capitalism (an artificial, historical concept). in other words, you speak of choice and yet we are forced to “work or starve.” how is this “choice”? if choice is so “great” in capitalism, then who benefits? certainly not the workers. capitalism only benefits the capitalists.
why else would it be called “capitalism,” if it didn’t revolve around serving the interests of “capital” and “capitalists”?
el jefe: So let me give you a little lesson in political economy. In true Capitalism there is freedom to deploy capital (financial, labor etc) and receive most of the fruits of your efforts-your hard work equals more for you. This system drives hard work and innovation as people wish to better their condition-and drive a healthy economy that benefits everyone. Contrast this to Socialism and Communism-where the state takes most of the fruits of your labor and effort and redistributes it out as they see fit. Ask people from pre 1989 USSR or Eastern Europe how well it works!
well, in “true” socialism, the state provides and eventually withers away into communism. just like your “true” capitalism, socialism and communism have been vulgarized in practice (FAR removed from marx’s writings).
if you disagree and “poo-poo” this position, then you should realize that your ideology and mine are one in the same, on the surface: idealistic, and vulgarized in practice. the real issue depends on whether or not human needs are satisfied. in the first half of the 19th century, in countries such as great britain (and to a lesser extent, the united states), we find the “truest” practice of your ideology on record. what else do we find? abhorrent inequality, hyper-stratification, coercion, lack of free will, choice, and self-determination. ask the workers in 19th century industrialized countries “how well it works”!
Remember you are FREE to work for whomever will pay you what you will settle for. In Socialism or Communism you are required to work for the State at whatever they decide what they’ll pay you with no freedom to pursue your desires in either work or free thought.
Being a former union member(not going to say which one). At first, when they gain access to a building(usually by coercion not openly admitted to by the employer), they are “hard” on that employer as well as benefits increase. Eventually, they start working with the employer! Losing one or more benefits as the years go by. Never, touching the wages! Wages, go UP-shortly after “magically” the due structure does as well. Where, I was employed, they automatically took dues/association fees even if you chose not be in the union. Only, difference is that you couldn’t vote on contracts. The people that portray the unions are worth it, YOU need to find out how much these people make for wages??? Unions-are a business! They should be REQUIRED to pay taxes as well. They don’t do anything but incite violence, to obtain or get their way. As far as workplace safety issues, that was the real reason for unions. We now have OSHA that takes care of those issues. Unions are a complete waste of money.
Actually “freedom of choice” would collapse the entire education system. Why doesn’t Mr. Walker just give the taxpayers a choice for the school they send their child with THEIR OWN MONEY? He wouldn’t dare go that far in implementing ‘freedom of choice’.
Actually “freedom of choice” would be better for the children! Freedom of choice, where the schools are NOT required to keep a teacher that is not doing their job! I don’t mean-the fact that some children refuse to learn(blaming it on teachers). I mean, those childrens parents step up to the “plate” and be parents! If they can’t be effective parents for their children’s sake instead of blaming it on the teachers! Foster homes, should be open as a choice!