Refuting liberal claims about Trump's plans to save this country!

TRUMP WILL MAKE AMERICA WEAK…an article originally quoted and posted here:

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I was so peeved after reading this crapola that I just had to repost and respond to it in my own article.  Below you’ll read this moron’s claims followed by my responses in BOLD text.

Longtime political troll, temporary (we hope) Republican presidential frontrunner, and adept public entertainer Donald Trump has captured the attention of large swaths of the conservative base. Three aspects central to his success: His larger-than-life, captivating persona. His blunt, plainspoken, political outsider approach. And, most important of all, his unifying central campaign thesis: Make America great again. The bread and butter of successful revolutionaries and dictators the world over, “make us great again” is a powerful message. Unfortunately for Trump, who has historically been light on the details of his policy proposals, everything he intends to do to make America great again would, in fact, do exactly the opposite.

While there are plenty of terrible ideas in Donald Trump’s head to occupy pundits for ages, let’s focus in on his two biggest, and worst, proposals: keeping out illegal immigrants, and restricting trade with foreign countries.

The centerpiece of Donald Trump’s misguided platform is his plan for a grandiose border wall to end illegal immigration. Ignore for a moment that a wall currently exists, and the unlikelihood of being able to actually implement the policies necessary to effectively halt illegal immigration. For the sake of argument, let’s say Trump gets his way here. Building the border wall alone would cost tens of billions of dollars. Add to the bill the personnel required to monitor and maintain the wall, as well as respond to any security breeches anywhere on its length, and you have one titanic government program.

You say a wall already exists?  We don’t even have fencing along great swathes of the Mexican border.  What are you even talking about?  And before you ask, my friend works with Border Patrol and actually served a year in Brownsville region.  That’s my source. What’s yours? Oh, didn’t provide one.  Not surprising.   Building said wall, you complain will cost tens of billions and require immense amounts of labor for both construction and security.  My friend, the infrastructure for the border patrol and ICE already exist…that’s enforcement.  We also have the military and numerous amounts of guard units already being paid who can be rotated into border patrol cycles to back up BP and ICE.  Texas and Arizona both have used guard units for this.  These guys get paid for two weeks a year for training…no reason you can’t use them during that time.  As for the labor…well we could use the jobs.  As for paying for it, as Mr.  Trump has already plainly said, he’ll make Mexico pay for it.  How? It’s called import tariffs.  Mexico pays nothing to import for the most part and this is why all of our big companies like FORD and HP have gone down there or are trying to go down there.  So all we have to do is enforce tariffs and divert funds.  I don’t know why you liberals douches have to make government so difficult.  Finance and management is not that big of an undertaking.  Bureaucrats are the problem.

Looking at the costs of removing all illegal immigrants currently residing in the United States provides an even greater sticker shock. There are 11 million illegal immigrants residing in the U.S. today. That’s more than the collective populations of Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts, and New Hampshire put together. Many brought their families, others started families since moving (complicating the legal consequences of deportation), and all have fully integrated into the local economy. Put together the devastation of abruptly removing millions of tenants and customers, and you have several industries scrambling to deal with the shortfall. The worst impact would be felt by industries that rely on cheap immigrant labor to survive, such as construction, landscaping, agriculture, and the restaurant industry. The prevailing counter-argument is that these jobs would be snapped up right away by American workers. This is, however, looking increasingly doubtful, especially after Alabama’s anti-immigrant policies ended up devastating its agricultural sector, leaving it unable to find Americans to fill the job vacancies. Apparently, there are plenty of jobs that only poor immigrants will do.

Cost of removing said 11 million illegals.  It can be done, en masse for about $250 per person.  I’m an excop as well as ex military.  I know how much federal transports that are private contracts cost to move inmates.  So let’s call it about $2.5 billion.  Let’s be generous and call it $10 billion.  Do you know how much those average illegals cost us per year living here due to use and abuse of welfare and other programs?  $100 billion dollars according to one ABC News report.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/illegal-immigrants-cost-us-100-billion-year-group/story?id=10699317

Needless to say, we can afford to spend probably $9000 per illegal to get rid of them and we’d still come in under budget.

Furthermore nobody ever said we couldn’t have immigrants at all.  Trump himself said we’d welcome back any who were willing to go through the system.  We’re all aware of the need for cheap labor.  We’re all willing to let some back in…but not 11 million.  So your argument against loss of cheap labor…again…falls as flat as your pricing claims.

The highest cost associated with the Trump border scheme isn’t economic at all: it’s lost liberty. One of the challenges to building a comprehensive border wall is that much of the land along the U.S.-Mexico border is privately owned; and while some landowners would consent to a massive federal government operation on their property, many would not. The only solution would be to use the force of government to steal private citizens’ land for public purposes (a concept that eminent domain-happy Donald Trump is no stranger to putting into practice). Enforcing immigration law behind the wall would be another matter of lost liberty entirely, requiring a transformation to a “papers please” society where all citizens are accounted for and their immigration status is routinely verified.

Loss of liberty?  REALLY?  You actually went there?  Yeah, you did.  Find me a rancher along the border who refuses to let the government build a border fence on his property and I’ll kiss your liberal hiney-hole.  That’s just the dumbest argument yet.

Finally, Trump’s vintage trade policy. And by vintage, I mean 18th century. Chief among his retro economic fallacies is the notion that Americans somehow “lose out” to other countries over voluntary trade. He asserts that, when a company moves a factory to a place like China or Mexico, those jobs, and profits, are lost forever, gone into the mist that is the world beyond U.S. borders. What he missesis that, through trade, goods and services are able to be produced more efficiently, lowering the cost of living for all. This increased efficiency and savings allows companies to create more and better jobs than the low-end ones sent overseas. In addition, better jobs in other countries mean those foreign populations are able to afford to import more goods and services from America. In short, everyone, just about everywhere, is better off. That’s why, in a deregulated environment, global trade skyrockets. Everyone would trade with everyone else if it weren’t for would-be despots like Trump getting in the way. If allowed to, he would cause prices to go up many times over, all while restricting American workers to the same difficult and ill-paying jobs for years to come.

Trade policy?  We DO lose out.  We have a highly paid workforce.  We cannot and will not compete for low end manufacturing jobs.  If we removed trade barriers, the third world would take every damn job we have.  What planet are you living on????  Every year that trade has been loosened, this nation has lost companies, manufacturing and jobs.  Your one-world policy is a load of crap designed to promote an idea of unified world government.  It has no basis on actual numbers.  Try again.  Go back in time and see how many US companies took their jobs overseas.  Not many.  As the trend toward free trade has expanded, the US has become further and further sunk in both debt and loss of GNP.  If you don’t know what GNP is, you probably slept through high school civics class.

Now, if all Donald Trump’s ideas are so terrible, how has he had so much success using them to buttress his campaign? Simple: he blames those without a voice. To a rational, educated populace, every problem’s claims of cause and effect are open to objective investigation. Who’s ruining the economy? Let’s look at the facts, and test the various hypotheses. With an ignorant (willfully or otherwise) population, all manner of claims can be made into the void with no examination or pushback. The only thing that can cause resistance to a narrative among the ignorant is a public counter-narrative. Talk smack about someone, and they may come around to set the record straight. If your boogeymen are foreign countries and immigrants who have very real reasons for wanting to remain quiet and off the radar, the odds of them speaking up to call you on your nonsense are close to zero. You can keep blaming them for an eternity, because for your uninformed voters, all foreign countries are just specters in the massive black void of their ignorance. China and Mexico are whatever Trump supporters want them to be, because they have little to no real information to counter their beliefs.

I don’t know what this last paragraph is all about but I’m pretty sure you just called all Americans ignorant.  If China and Mexico are so great…why don’t you go live in one of them?

Donald Trump surged to the top of the Republican presidential field through the vague proposition of making America great again. Too bad the policies he actually espouses would only make her weak. Let it be known that Trump is the weak America candidate.

Joël Valenzuela is the editor of The Desert Lynx. He is also the founder of the Rights Brigade, a mover for the Free State Project, and a martial art instructor.

And oh…shock…your last name is VALENZUELA!  I’m so shocked.  A Hispanic…wow.  Was that a bit racist?  Probably.  But I think we all get the point.  Besides, he started it by inferring I was part of a vast and ignorant population.  And it’s not my fault if no one named Bob Jones wrote this crap-fest of a misleading article.