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The MYSTERY OF GOD in the BOOK OF REVELATION: The Two Witnesses, the Manchild, and the Destroyer as you have never heard them spoken of before.

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“But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.”

—Revelation 10:7

 

DISCLAIMER: What you are about to read explains some things about the end time mystery and plans of God in relation to several characters in the end times script known as the Book of Revelation. Specifically, who are the two witnesses in chapter 11 of Revelation? Who is the manchild in chapter 12 of Revelation? Who is the Destroyer in chapter 9 of Revelation? And are they all related somehow? What I reveal in this article is not something you have heard before. You will not find it in any of the teachings espoused by any so-called prophecy teacher. You will not find it in any of the teachings of the various sects and denominations of Christianity. You will not find it in any other teaching you may find on the internet. But you will find it in your Bible. It’s all right there in the writings of the Hebrew prophets Jeremiah, Isaiah, Ezekiel, etc. If you are a believer who seeks after the truth of the Word of God, I challenge you to read this with an open mind not letting any pre-conceived notions cloud your thinking and chew upon and think upon what I have said here and have a look in your own Bibles to see if what I said is true. You will find it is truth that lines up with the Word and is confirmed by the Holy Spirit.

 

The truth will find the pure of heart. So I ask any and all believers and followers of Jesus to consider what I have written here with nothing more than an open Bible and nothing less than an open mind and a pure heart. Yes, open up your Bible and be blessed (see REV 1:3)! Grace and peace to all who will receive it (see REV 1:4)!

 

So with that, to those with eyes to see with and ears to hear with, I present to you:

 

The MYSTERY OF GOD in the BOOK OF REVELATION: The Two Witnesses, the Manchild, and the Destroyer as you have never heard them spoken of before.

 

 

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

—Revelation 11:3-4

 

When you talk about who the two witnesses in chapter 11 of the book of Revelation are, you must talk about the two olive trees standing before the Lord as described in the book of Zechariah. One of the olive trees, or one of the anointed ones that stands by the Lord, is represented by Zerubbabel in Zechariah (and elsewhere in Scripture). The other olive tree is represented in the book of Zechariah by Joshua.

 

When the Law of Moses passes away and Ezekiel’s temple kicks in (when the new heavens and new earth are created), in addition to the ark of the covenant, gone from the temple furnishings will be the table of shew bread, the laver filled with water, the Lampstand or Menorah, the golden altar of incense, and the veil—all of these temple furnishings from Solomon’s temple will be gone in Ezekiel’s temple. But there will remain two temple furnishings in Ezekiel’s temple (see EZEK 40:49) that will remain from Solomon’s temple, and that is, two much overlooked temple furnishings, the two pillars to the right and to the left of the entrance into the Holy Place. In Solomon’s temple, at the entrance to the Holy Place, there was a pillar to the north called Boaz and a pillar to the south called Jakin, or Jachin (see 1 Kings 7:21). Boaz means “in him is strength” and Jakin means “he establishes”.  These two pillars represent the two olive trees who stand before the LORD.

 

 

 

The olive tree represented by Zerubbabel will do some extraordinary things. Jesus was not speaking in hyperbole when He said you can speak to the mountain and it will move. Zerubbabel will build the temple/church in the great end time harvest. He will be a witness to the world that the words of Jesus are true and can be trusted. He will speak to a mountain and it will move. Think that will awaken a lot of people of the reality of the Gospel? Even the eyes of our Father who art in heaven—the eyes that run to and fro—will look upon with joy at the plumb line of the temple in the hands of Zerubbabel, one of the two olive trees who stands before the Lord. From the book of Zechariah:

 

6 Then he answered and spoke unto me, saying: ‘This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying: Not by might, nor by power, but by My spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

7 Who art thou, O great mountain before Zerubbabel? thou shalt become a plain; and he shall bring forth the top stone with shoutings of Grace, grace, unto it.

8 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying:

9 ‘The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house; his hands shall also finish it; and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me unto you.

10 For who hath despised the day of small things? even they shall see with joy the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel, even these seven, which are the eyes of the LORD, that run to and fro through the whole earth.

11 Then answered I, and said unto him: ‘What are these two olive-trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?

12 And I answered the second time, and said unto him: ‘What are these two olive branches, which are beside the two golden spouts, that empty the golden oil out of themselves?

13 And he answered me and said: ‘Knowest thou not what these are?’ And I said: ‘No, my lord.’

14 Then said he: ‘These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.’

 

—Zechariah 4:6-14 Masoretic text

 

The book of Haggai says this about Zerubbabel:

 

21 Speak to Zerubbabel, governor of Judah, saying, I will shake the heavens and the earth;

22 And I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms, and I will destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen; and I will overthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them; and the horses and their riders shall come down, every one by the sword of his brother.

23 In that day, saith the Lord of hosts, will I take thee, O Zerubbabel, my servant, the son of Shealtiel, saith the Lord, and will make thee as a signet: for I have chosen thee, saith the Lord of hosts.

—Haggai 2:21-23

 

The olive tree represented by Zerubbabel is the one spoken of in Daniel 7:13-14:

 

13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

—Daniel 7:13-14

 

And the one spoken of in Daniel 7:13-14 is the manchild of Revelation 12:5:

 

“And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.”

—Revelation 12:5

 

The olive tree represented by Zerubbabel is the one referred to as the “Shoot” in the following Scripture from the Masoretic text, for he shall shoot up out of his place and build the temple and then he will work in harmony and in concert with the olive tree represented by Joshua:

 

11 yea, take silver and gold, and make crowns, and set the one upon the head of Joshua the son of Jehozadak, the high priest

12 and speak unto him, saying: Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying: Behold, a man whose name is the Shoot, and who shall shoot up out of his place, and build the temple of the LORD;

13 even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and there shall be a priest before his throne; and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

—Zechariah 6:11-13 Masoretic text

 

Concerning the olive tree represented by Joshua, the book of Zechariah says this:

 

3 Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood before the angel.

4 And he answered and spake unto those that stood before him, saying, Take away the filthy garments from him. And unto him he said, Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with change of raiment.

5 And I said, Let them set a fair mitre upon his head. So they set a fair mitre upon his head, and clothed him with garments. And the angel of the Lord stood by.

—Zechariah 3:3-5

 

The picture painted here is someone who bore sin (clothed with a dirty garment) and the sin was removed. It also says this in Zechariah:

 

For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the Lord of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.”

—Zechariah 3:9

 

Does that ring a bell, removing the iniquity of the land in one day? Yes, we’re talking Calvary. The olive tree represented by Joshua is none other than Jesus. After all, Messiah or Christ means anointed one, and the two olive trees are the two anointed ones that stand before the Lord! The two witnesses in chapter 11 of Revelation are referred to as witnesses of course and as prophets. Jesus is called a witness in Scripture:

 

“I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.”

—John 8:18

 

“Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth.”

—John 18:37

 

“And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth.”

—Revelation 1:5

 

“And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; “

—Revelation 3:14

 

And Jesus is also called a prophet in Scripture:

 

“And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee.”

—Matthew 21:11

 

“The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;”

—Deuteronomy 18:15

 

Revelation says this about the two witnesses:

 

“And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.”

—Revelation 11:8

 

Jesus was crucified in spiritual Sodom and spiritual Egypt and was resurrected from there on the third day. And as the end times script in Revelation unfolds upon the world stage, the world will witness the two who are one also die in spiritual Sodom and spiritual Egypt and be resurrected from there after three days:

 

“And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.”

—Revelation 11:11

 

A curious thing about chapter 11 of Revelation where it says this:

 

“And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city….”

—Revelation 11:8

 

Regarding the above verse, in the original Greek manuscripts, A, B,  and C, the oldest manuscripts, and in the Coptic, they all read the singular dead body, or corpse.  The two are considered as one. See:

http://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/jamieson-fausset-brown/revelation/revelation-11.html

 

Here is an English translation of the original Greek where you can see in verse 8 and 9 the singular “dead body” is used:

https://archive.org/stream/bookofrevelation00treg#page/n57/mode/2up

 

When chapter 11 of Revelation plays out on the world stage, the two witnesses will consist of one witness upon earth, the olive tree represented by Zerubbabel, who will build the temple on earth (the Church), and one witness in heaven, the olive tree represented by Joshua, who is Jesus.

 

So upon the earth, when chapter 11 is all said and done, the people of the nations will see two who are one. There will be one physical person (Zeruubabel) who prophesies 1260 days in sackcloth and who torments those who live upon the earth—so much so that they will celebrate his death. But their celebration won’t last long, for they will be terrified when they see him resurrected three and half days later.

 

So the world will see the two witnesses embodied in one person upon the earth. For within the physical body of the witness represented by Zerubbabel will be the witness represented by Joshua, which is Jesus. They are truly two who are one. But that is not unique to Zerubbabel. For is not the great secret of Christianity Christ in us, Immanuel? Do not all true believers have the witness of Jesus within themselves? Indeed! The difference with Zerubbabel is you could say he is the quintessential Christian as he overcomes Satan by the blood of the Lamb the words of his testimony (see REV 12:11).

 

As to why would modern translators change the original Greek in chapter 11 of Revelation to refer to two bodies or corpses, they no doubt were relying on what made sense to them instead of letting the Scriptures speak for themselves. It is much like in Matthew 24:28 where many translations opted for vultures instead of eagles as vultures made more sense to them because in nature vultures gather around carcasses, not eagles. While I believe the translators tried their best and made what they thought was the right decision, I’m not sure how not leaving the original Greek text intact plays out in light of Revelation 22:19. They should have just let the Scriptures speak for themselves and left it at that. 

 

To bring home the idea that these are indeed not two, but one person upon the earth, consider the following:

 

The mystery of God in Revelation 10:7 that will be completed just before the seventh trumpet sounds is this: the olive tree/witness who is represented by Zerubbabel, is the one who builds the temple of the Lord and will at the end of all this inherit all the nations of the earth and rule and reign forever and ever (see REV 12:5, DAN 7:13-14), he is the elect child of chp 12 of REV fame. And he will stand before the LORD forever and ever because that is what the anointed ones do and because he is a pillar in the temple of the Most High and serves Him day and night (see REV 7:15).  And this elect child of God, this chosen one, this one the LORD loves, one of the two olive trees before the LORD, is the one who does the bidding of the LORD against Babylon (see CHP 48 of ISAIAH), he is the bird of prey from the east, Abaddon, who will utterly destroy Babylon. He is the last who will be first.

 

The second woe consists of his ministry, death, and resurrection.

 

It is at his resurrection that the Second Coming is truly imminent, the third and final woe.

 

Come hither into the Word:

 

1ST WOE from CHP 9 of REV:

 

1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

 

2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

 

3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.

 

4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

 

5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

 

6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

 

7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.

 

8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.

 

9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.

 

10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

 

11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

 

12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.

—REV 9:1-12

 

Abaddon is the slayer of CHP 21 of EZEK:

 

6 Sigh therefore, thou son of man, with the breaking of thy loins; and with bitterness sigh before their eyes.

7 And it shall be, when they say unto thee, Wherefore sighest thou? that thou shalt answer, For the tidings; because it cometh: and every heart shall melt, and all hands shall be feeble, and every spirit shall faint, and all knees shall be weak as water: behold, it cometh, and shall be brought to pass, saith the Lord God.

8 Again the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

9 Son of man, prophesy, and say, Thus saith the Lord; Say, A sword, a sword is sharpened, and also furbished:

10 It is sharpened to make a sore slaughter; it is furbished that it may glitter: should we then make mirth? it contemneth the rod of my son, as every tree.

11 And he hath given it to be furbished, that it may be handled: this sword is sharpened, and it is furbished, to give it into the hand of the slayer.

 

—EZEK 21:6-11

 

…and the strong one in JOEL, the commander of the ARMY OF THE LORD:

 

1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the Lord cometh, for it is nigh at hand;

2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.

3 A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.

4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.

5 Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.

6 Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness.

7 They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks:

8 Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.

9 They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.

10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:

11 And the Lord shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the Lord is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?

 

—JOEL 2:1-11

 

He is the fierce lion of JER 4:7, the destroyer of nations, who ends up standing before the LORD (in the following, EMPHASIS is mine):

 

“Behold, he shall come up like a LION from the thickets of the Jordan against the strong habitation; for I will suddenly make him run away from it, and WHOSO IS CHOSEN, him will I appoint over it; for WHO IS LIKE ME? and WHO WILL APPOINT ME A TIME? and WHO IS THAT SHEPHERD THAT WILL STAND BEFORE ME?”

— JER 49:19 Masoretic text

 

 

43 The king of Babylon hath heard the fame of them, and his hands wax feeble; anguish hath taken hold of him, and pain, as of a woman in travail

44 Behold, he shall come up like a LION from the thickets of the Jordan against the strong habitation; for I will suddenly make them run away from it, and WHOSO IS CHOSEN, him will I appoint over it; for WHO IS LIKE ME? AND WHO WILL APPOINT ME A TIME? AND WHO IS THAT SHEPHERD THAT WILL STAND BEFORE ME?

 

—JER 50:43-44 Masoretic text

 

 

 

He is the strong one in the army described by Joel, this fierce lion spoken of by Jeremiah who ends up standing before the Lord:

 

 

 

“A lion is gone up from his thicket, and a destroyer of nations is set out, gone forth from his place; to make thy land desolate, that thy cities be laid waste, without inhabitant.”

—Jeremiah 4:7 Masoretic text

 

 

37 And the peaceable folds are brought to silence because of the fierce anger of the LORD.

38 He hath forsaken His covert, as the lion; for their land is become a waste because of the fierceness of the oppressing sword, and because of His fierce anger.

—Jeremiah 25:37-38 Masoretic text

 

In verse 43 below, even the Devil’s hands will hang limp in fear (see EMPHASIS) when the army of the Lord rides:

 

43 The KING OF BABYLON hath heard the fame of them, and HIS HANDS WAX FEEBLE; anguish hath taken hold of him, and pain, as of a woman in travail

44 Behold, he shall come up like a lion from the thickets of the Jordan against the strong habitation; for I will suddenly make them run away from it, and whoso is chosen, him will I appoint over it; for who is like Me? and who will appoint Me a time? and who is that shepherd that will stand before Me?

 

—Jeremiah 50:43-44 Masoretic text

 

 

In the day of His wrath, the Lord breathes fire out of His mouth:

 

7 Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations also of the hills moved and were shaken, because he was wroth.

8 There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it.

—Psalm 18:7-8

 

The two who are one breathe fire out of their mouths:

 

4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

—Revelation 11:4-5

 

The two who are one will torment those upon the earth, so much so that when their corpse lies in the street, the nations of the earth will celebrate and not allow them burial.

 

The first woe introduces Abaddon and the ARMY OF THE LORD to the world (see chapter 9 of Revelation).  During the first woe, no one dies, though many will wish they could. But many, many, many will die in the second woe at hands of Abaddon and the ARMY OF THE LORD.

 

BREAKING NEWS ALERT for those who believe in a pre-tribulation rapture of the Church:

NOT ONLY WILL THE CHURCH BE HERE FOR THE TRIBULATION, BUT THE CHURCH WILL PARTICIPATE IN ADMINISTERING THE TRIBULATION!!!

 

 

“I will call for a sword upon all the inhabitants of the earth, saith the Lord of hosts.”

—Jeremiah 25:29

 

 

“Cursed be he that doeth the work of the LORD with a slack hand, and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood.”

—Jeremiah 48:10  Masoretic text

 

 

25 The LORD hath opened His armoury, and hath brought forth the weapons of His indignation; for it is a work that the Lord GOD of hosts hath to do in the land of the Chaldeans.

26 Come against her from every quarter, open her granaries, cast her up as heaps, and destroy her utterly; let nothing of her be left.

27 Slay all her bullocks, let them go down to the slaughter; woe unto them! for their day is come, the time of their visitation.

28 Hark! they flee and escape out of the land of Babylon, to declare in Zion the vengeance of the LORD our God, the vengeance of His temple.

29 Call together the archers against Babylon, all them that bend the bow; encamp against her round about, let none thereof escape; recompense her according to her work, according to all that she hath done, do unto her: for she hath been arrogant against the LORD, against the Holy One of Israel.

—Jeremiah 50:25-29  Masoretic text

 

 

35 A sword is upon the Chaldeans, saith the LORD, and upon the inhabitants of Babylon, and upon her princes, and upon her wise men.

36 A sword is upon the boasters, and they shall become fools; a sword is upon her mighty men, and they shall be dismayed.

37 A sword is upon their horses, and upon their chariots, and upon all the mingled people that are in the midst of her, and they shall become as women; a sword is upon her treasures, and they shall be robbed.

38 A drought is upon her waters, and they shall be dried up; for it is a land of graven images, and they are mad upon things of horror.

39 Therefore the wild-cats with the jackals shall dwell there, and the ostriches shall dwell therein; and it shall be no more inhabited for ever, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation.

40 As when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighbour cities thereof, saith the LORD; so shall no man abide there, neither shall any son of man dwell therein.

41 Behold, a people cometh from the north, and a great nation, and many kings shall be roused from the uttermost parts of the earth.

42 They lay hold on bow and spear, they are cruel, and have no compassion; their voice is like the roaring sea, and they ride upon horses; set in array, as a man for war, against thee, O daughter of Babylon.

—Jeremiah 50:35-42

 

 

12 Set up a standard against the walls of Babylon, make the watch strong, set the watchmen, prepare the ambushes; for the LORD hath both devised and done that which He spoke concerning the inhabitants of Babylon.

13 O thou that dwellest upon many waters, abundant in treasures, thine end is come, the measure of thy covetousness.

14 The LORD of hosts hath sworn by Himself: Surely I will fill thee with men, as with the canker-worm, and they shall lift up a shout against thee.

—Jeremiah 51:12-14

 

 

 

6 Let not the swift flee away, nor the mighty man escape; they shall stumble, and fall toward the north by the river Euphrates.

7 Who is this that cometh up as a flood, whose waters are moved as the rivers?

8 Egypt riseth up like a flood, and his waters are moved like the rivers; and he saith, I will go up, and will cover the earth; I will destroy the city and the inhabitants thereof.

9 Come up, ye horses; and rage, ye chariots; and let the mighty men come forth; the Ethiopians and the Libyans, that handle the shield; and the Lydians, that handle and bend the bow.

10 For this is the day of the Lord God of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord God of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates.

—Jeremiah 46:6-10

 

14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

—Revelation 9:14-15

 

You can think of the four angels bound at the Euphrates river as four war axes to be wielded in the hands of the Destroyer, or the two who are one. The two who are one will strike the earth as much as they want (see REV 11:6) with plagues of fire, smoke, and brimstone (see REV 9:18). They will prophesy, clap their hands, and the sword of the Most High will strike:

 

14 Thou therefore, son of man, prophesy, and smite thine hands together. and let the sword be doubled the third time, the sword of the slain: it is the sword of the great men that are slain, which entereth into their privy chambers.

15 I have set the point of the sword against all their gates, that their heart may faint, and their ruins be multiplied: ah! it is made bright, it is wrapped up for the slaughter.

16 Go thee one way or other, either on the right hand, or on the left, whithersoever thy face is set.

17 I will also smite mine hands together, and I will cause my fury to rest: I the Lord have said it.

—Ezekiel 21:14-17

 

Concerning Abaddon, or the Destroyer, Revelation says in chapter 9 that he is the angel/star with the key to the bottomless pit. Is the warden of a prison a prisoner himself? Is the warden of a prison a good guy or a bad guy? Abaddon is a good guy.

 

This same destroyer of the nations, this lion, this chosen shepherd that will stand before the LORD, is one and the same as the strong one who executes the word of the LORD as commander of the ARMY OF THE LORD in JOEL. Notice the appearance of the army in JOEL 2:4, they have the appearance of horses. They are the locusts with the appearance of horses described in Revelation:

 

“And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses…”

—REV 9:7

 

Make no mistake about it, chapter 9 of REV speaks of the ARMY OF THE LORD.

 

3 I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger, even them that rejoice in my highness.

4 The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the Lord of hosts mustereth the host of the battle.

5 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the Lord, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land.

6 Howl ye; for the day of the Lord is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.

7 Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man’s heart shall melt

—Isaiah 13:3-7

 

41 Behold, a people shall come from the north, and a great nation, and many kings shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.

42 They shall hold the bow and the lance: they are cruel, and will not shew mercy: their voice shall roar like the sea, and they shall ride upon horses, every one put in array, like a man to the battle, against thee, O daughter of Babylon.

43 The king of Babylon hath heard the report of them, and his hands waxed feeble: anguish took hold of him, and pangs as of a woman in travail.

—Jeremiah 50:41-43

 

The Destroyer is the rider on the white horse revealed in the 1st seal:

 

“And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.”

—Revelation 6:2

 

Abaddon, the rider on the white horse in the first seal, who is also represented by Zerubbabel, is the righteous one from the east spoken of here in Isaiah:

 

2 Who raised up the righteous man from the east, called him to his foot, gave the nations before him, and made him rule over kings? he gave them as the dust to his sword, and as driven stubble to his bow.

3 He pursued them, and passed safely; even by the way that he had not gone with his feet.

4 Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the Lord, the first, and with the last; I am he.

—Isaiah 41:2-4

 

ZERUBBABEL/ABADDON IS THE BIRD OF PREY FROM THE EAST, THE ONE WHOM THE LORD LOVES AND WHO PERFORMS HIS PLEASURE, PLANS, AND PURPOSES AGAINST BABYLON:

 

“The Lord of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand”

—Isaiah 14:24

 

11 Make bright the arrows; gather the shields: the Lord hath raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes: for his device is against Babylon, to destroy it; because it is the vengeance of the Lord, the vengeance of his temple.

 

12 Set up the standard upon the walls of Babylon, make the watch strong, set up the watchmen, prepare the ambushes: for the Lord hath both devised and done that which he spake against the inhabitants of Babylon.

—Jeremiah 51:11-12

 

9 Remember the former things of old: that I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like Me;

10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times things that are not yet done; saying: ‘My counsel shall stand, and all My pleasure will I do’

11 Calling a bird of prey from the east, the man of My counsel from a far country; yea, I have spoken, I will also bring it to pass, I have purposed, I will also do it.

—Isaiah 46:9-11  Masoretic text

 

14 Assemble yourselves, all ye, and hear; which among them hath declared these things? He whom the LORD loveth shall perform His pleasure on Babylon, and show His arm on the Chaldeans.

15 I, even I, have spoken, yea, I have called him; I have brought him, and he shall make his way prosperous.

—Isaiah 48:14-15  Masoretic text

 

When the olive tree represented by Joshua in the book of Zechariah, Jesus, stood up in the synagogue and read aloud the following from the first two verses from chapter 61 of Isaiah, saying “The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord”  and stopped  right there in mid-verse of verse 2 and sat down, He was prophetically handing off the spiritual baton if you will (as runners in a relay race do) unto the other olive tree that stands before the Lord, the one represented by Zerubbabel, who is also the Destroyer, or Abaddon. The very next phrase of the verse at the point where Jesus sat down was this:

“and the day of vengeance of our God”

—Isaiah 61:2

 

The Day of the Lord is all about vengeance:

 

“For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloak.”

—Isaiah 59:17

 

2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?

3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.

4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.

—Isaiah 63:2-4

 

“For it is the day of the Lord’s vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.”

—Isaiah 34:8

 

So to recap everything and tie it all together, the 2 witnesses of Revelation chapter 11 are the two olive trees who stand before the Lord. They are represented by Zerubbabel and Joshua in the book of Zechariah. The olive tree/witness represented by Joshua is none other than Jesus. The olive tree/witness represented by Zerubbabel in Scripture is the manchild of Revelation 12:5, who overcomes Satan by the words of his testimony and the blood of the Lamb (see REV 12:11).  He will build the temple of the Lord in the great end time harvest when the end times play out on the world stage, for he will be a witness of the faithfulness of the words of Jesus, that they are true and can be trusted. The one represented by Zerubbabel in Scripture who is the Manchild of Revelation chapter 12  is also one and the same with the one spoken of in Daniel 7:13-14, who will rule all the nations of the earth in a kingdom without end. He is also one and the same as the Destroyer of REV 9:11 fame, the fierce lion spoken of in Jeremiah, who will end up standing before Lord.

 

In chapter 12 of Revelation, we see the dragon knock down a third of the stars out of the sky down to the earth with his tail:

 

“And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.”

—Revelation 12:4

 

The above verse does not speak to Satan deceiving a third of the angels. It speaks to the dragon knocking a third of the stars down to the earth with his tail in an act of war in heaven. And he not only knocks down a third of the stars, but he stomps on them. Concerning the little horn in Daniel, it says this:

 

“And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.”

—Daniel 8:10

 

To help explain what I am saying, let us suppose good angels wear white hats and bad angels wear black hats. The traditional understanding of Revelation 12:4 is the dragon knocked down with his tail angels wearing black hats.  I am saying that the dragon knocked down with his tail angels wearing white hats.

 

Before continuing, a note here about stars/angels is in order. What are stars and angels in Scripture? Do stars = angels? Perhaps. But do not saints evolve/progress to the status of stars? Indeed:

 

“And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.”

—Daniel 12:3

 

Which brings me to the elect. Lo and behold, one of the stars which fell out of heaven to the earth, was given the key to the bottomless pit:

 

“And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.”

—Revelation 9:1

 

This one with the key to the bottomless pit is the Destroyer:

 

11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.

—Revelation 9:11-12

 

Abaddon, or Apollyon, or the Destroyer, is the long arm of the law, a sheriff in a white hat, if you will, who takes hold of Satan and locks him in the bottomless pit for a thousand years at the beginning of the Millennial Reign:

 

1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

—Revelation 20:1-3

 

Then after that little season of time, Abaddon casts Satan into the lake of fire:

 

“And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.”

—Revelation 20:10

 

This star/angel with the key to the bottomless pit, the Destroyer, is the elect, the man child in Revelation 12:5. That is why the Devil sought to consume him the moment he was born. Satan knows that his time is short. He knew it when the man child was born. He knew it when he pursued the woman in the desert. Satan tried to thwart God’s plan by killing the woman in the desert, but God wouldn’t let it be. When he dies a violent death in the heart of the seas, will the Devil, as it says in Ezekiel 28:9, still think of himself as a god in the presence of those who kill him?

 

Yes yes, the Devil is done, and there isn’t a thing he can do about it. The end comes now. The dragon roars and rages but can stop it not.

 

In short, what I am saying is this:

 

The two witnesses in CHP 11 of REV = one witness upon earth + one witness in heaven (currently)

The witness in heaven = Joshua in Zechariah= Jesus

The witness upon earth = Zerubbabel in Zechariah = Manchild of REV 12:5 = Elect

And the Manchild of REV 12:5  =  Abaddon of REV 9:11

 

That is the MYSTERY OF GOD spoken of here in Revelation:

 

“But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the MYSTERY OF GOD should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.”

—Revelation 10:7

 

It is at just before the sounding of the seventh trumpet, at the completion of the second woe, when the two who are one are resurrected:

 

11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

15 And the seventh angel sounded;

 

—REV 11:11-15

 

The same MYSTERY OF GOD is spoken of here in the Old Testament (EMPHASIS MINE):

 

2 WHO RAISED UP THE RIGHTEOUS MAN FROM THE NORTH, called him to his foot, gave the nations before him, and made him rule over kings? he gave them as the dust to his sword, and as driven stubble to his bow.

3 He pursued them, and passed safely; even by the way that he had not gone with his feet.

4 WHO HATH WROUGHT AND DONE IT, CALLING THE GENERATIONS FROM THE BEGINNING? I the Lord, the first, and with the last; I am he.

—Isaiah 41:2-4

 

25 I have raised up one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the potter treadeth clay.

26 WHO HATH DECLARED FROM THE BEGINNING, THAT WE MAY KNOW? and beforetime, that we may say, He is righteous? yea, there is none that sheweth, yea, there is none that declareth, yea, there is none that heareth your words.

—Isaiah 41:25-26

 

14 All ye, assemble yourselves, and hear; WHICH AMONG THEM HATH DECLARED THESE THINGS? The Lord hath loved him: he will do his pleasure on Babylon, and his arm shall be on the Chaldeans.

15 I, even I, have spoken; yea, I have called him: I have brought him, and he shall make his way prosperous.

—Isaiah 48:14-15

 

1 WHO IS THIS THAT COMETH FROM EDOM, WITH DYED GARMENTS FROM BOZRAH? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.

2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?

3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.

4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.

5 And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.

6 And I will tread down the people in mine anger, and make them drunk in my fury, and I will bring down their strength to the earth.

—Isaiah 63:1-6

 

“Behold, he shall come up like a lion from the thickets of the Jordan against the strong habitation; for I will suddenly make him run away from it, and WHOSO IS CHOSEN, him will I appoint over it; for WHO IS LIKE ME? and WHO WILL APPOINT ME A TIME? and WHO IS THAT SHEPHERD THAT WILL STAND BEFORE ME?”

—Jeremiah 49:19 Masoretic text



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    • liberty

      Heres my response :

      The first thing that “throws me off” is your AVATAR.It is a Catholic “characature”of Christ & is an offense to me.You know what the scripture says about Graven Images.
      Im all for devouring the meat but this is far , far too much for most people to digest and no it DOESNT ‘sum it all up” .In fact it confuses and makes the head spin making me think you are “trying to outthink God”
      I dont agree with your theory of Joel 2. I have seen far more evidence that is speaking of SATANS End time army not the Lords Army.
      You make no reference to the Book of Enoch THE most important Book purposely left out to hide the truth about the End Times. Go study IT then line everything you’ve written here with IT.
      Does anyone ever consider that it GRIEVES GOD this very important book was purposely left out and that Christians have had to study it in SECRET , rather then from a PULPIT where it should have been taught in the first place, so that the Lord people could be EDUCATED about the Truth of the End Times?
      If you pay close attention you will see that now – more Christians ARE being stirred to study it and teach on it ,for the FIRST TIME EVER!

      As far as the Lords End Time Army dont forget there will also be a great falling away of those very ones whom see themselves as “washed in the Blood” ,so only the Lord knows whom His End Time Army will be and He is forming them right now .
      I appreciate your attempt to break down scripture , but Jesus is alot more simple then that ,so that MANY can understand it .He didnt make it to be so complex and complicated, so that ones head will spin .
      Theres something your missing but I cant pinpoint what it is.

      It all “sounds” right because you’ve plied us with scriptures , but something overall isnt quite “right”.
      I believe the Lord is STILL in the process of revealing and unfolding not “summing it all up” for one person whom is the only one whom can grasp or digest it all.
      But that Avatar -which is a major distraction makes it even harder for me to recieve much of what you have written.
      I prefer to let the Lord “unfold”, not have it all “wrapped up” so we know exactly what to expect beforehand.
      ….and ………I still havent “concluded” anything from what you have written just left more confused and overwhelmed.

      • am123

        Thank you for your response.

        Regarding my avatar, I do not bow down and worship it, it is not a false idol to me.

        You said:

        “You make no reference to the Book of Enoch THE most important Book purposely left out to hide the truth about the End Times. Go study IT then line everything you’ve written here with IT””

        In the first chapter of the Book of Enoch, I think in the 4th or 5th verse, it says even the Watchers will quake in fear over what is coming over the earth. More here on Abaddon and the army of the Lord:

        /prophecy/2013/10/shocking-nephilim-reptilians-watchers-things-that-go-bump-in-the-night-underground-beings-the-days-of-noah-spooky-not-2454990.html

        Regarding summing it all up as you say, I never claimed that. In my disclaimer at the beginning I stated:

        “What you are about to read attempts to explain SOME things about the end time mystery and plans of God in relation to several characters in the end times script known as the Book of Revelation.”

        Regarding making your head spin, that is why I said in the disclaimer to meditate upon these things. The more you do the more it will make sense and click with your spirit.

        • MSG Chicken

          Then what is your avatar for then?

          All Catholics say the same thing what you said about idols in their churches. No, they don’t worship it, they just bow down to it, look at it sacredly, pray in front of it, but no, they don’t worship it.

          Liars just like Satan.

        • am123

          My avatar, which BTW is based on the image on the Shroud of Turin, let’s you know where I’m coming from. Judge me for my avatar if you want, but I don’t have to answer to you.

    • Truthseeker007

      If one were to set out to write descriptions of the future and were to write exactly in the terminologythat one thought the future would hold, one would most likely error considerably, but if one were to write about the future in terms of symbols, such as saying there will be flying things that cause pain,there will be entities who ride in the darkness who bring bad news;there will be those things that come forth and bring a great wonderment. Nothing said so far can be contradicted in regard to future events,because every thing is so broad and vague that it can be applied to any future time and be accurate.

      By using symbology, one can make predictions that are accurate in regard to the future, and the accuracy may have nothing to do with foreseeing the future. It may simply be that
      the terminology and the symbols can be applied to the future. This Awareness indicates that much of the Book of Revelation is of this nature. It can be applied to any situation.
      Cosmic Awareness

      The Book Of Revelations was not intended to be taken as a literal prediction of things to come.This entity was describing a dream which was revealed and experienced in his psyche.Entities who take a dream literally are most likely to be fooled in their interpretation, for in almost every dream there are symbols which appear as realities,but which have symbolic meanings.

      The churches and candlesticks and all of these things mentioned:the varios seals…these are all references to the human physical body, and the body was the Book of Life in the symbolism of the Book of Revelation. The book of Revelation itself is revealing the self to entities. It is a book revealing the body and its workings:it is referring to the 7 chakras, the 7 glands, and the 7 etheric bodies around those chakras. When it speaks of the Beast it is referring to the rational mind and so on and so forth.

      The sad thing is that the symbolism and the energy that has been put onto this over the years by so many multitudes of people who believe it is coming about in reality, a literal translations such as Fundamentalist believe, is such that the entities are projecting this into actual fulfillment.

      Many entites would be extremely dissappointed if the Beast did not appear: they have been waiting for this Beast and Anti-Christ and Jesus for 2000 years. Without out the Beast,Jesus,Anti-Christ they would feel they had been mislead by the Christian religion.
      Cosmic Awareness

      • HereAmI

        “….The Book Of Revelations was not intended to be taken as a literal prediction of things to come…..”

        “The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto His servants things which must shortly come to pass….”

        Compare and contrast these two statements.

        • Truthseeker007

          HereAmI

          Apparently it is wrong because mostly nothing of the Book of Revelations has come to pass shortly. If anything has come to pass from the Book of Revelations its because people believed this book to be true and made it come to pass.

          Anybody can write a book and say “God ” gave it to them but that doesn’t make it true.

          It is mostly symbology of the human body but if read litteral It seems the writer of this story based his story off of Egyptian,Zoroastrian,Mithrian and other influences that were around the time of writing it some examples are as followed:

          THE BOOK OF THE DEAD:
          Plate II
          He is exceeding mighty and most terrible in his name Osiris. He endureth for ever and for ever in his name Un-nefer. Homage to thee, King of kings, Lord of lords, Prince of princes, who from the womb of Nut hast possessed the world and hast ruled all lands and Akert.
          http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/egipto/egypt_bookdead/bodead-plate02.htm

          Revelation 19:16
          16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
          http://biblehub.com/kjv/revelation/19.htm

          THE BOOK OF THE DEAD

          PLATE XXXVI

          A HYMN OF PRAISE TO OSIRIS THE DWELLER IN AMENTET, UN-NEFER WITHIN ABTU, Osiris Ani, triumphant, saith: Hail, O my lord, who dost traverse eternity, and whose existence endureth for ever. Hail, Lord of Lords, King of Kings, Prince, the God of gods who live with Thee,

          Revelation 17

          14These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful

          PlateVII
          Who then is this? It is An-a-f, the god who bringeth his arm. As concerning [the words] “that night of the reckoning of destruction,” it is the night of the burning of the damned, and of the overthrow of the wicked at [the sacred] block, and of the slaughter of souls.
          http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/egipto/egypt_bookdead/bodead-plate-07-10.htm

          Revelation 20
          14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire

          It is through the Amesha Spentas that Ahura Mazda approaches man. This God led Zoroaster to proclaim that whoever gives heed to the message of Ahura Mazda and obeys him will attain immortality.

          Anyone, big or small, rich or poor, could possess salvation if they obeyed Ahura Mazda and sought to live an ethical life. Two, the dualism of good and evil forces, light and dark, angels and devils, represented a radical departure from the prevalent monism and cyclical order of the world found in the surrounding religions. This would later bear even more fruit in Judaism and Christianity.

          This cosmic drama will be concluded with a general resurrection (both good and evil) and a final judgment. All mankind will be resurrected from the dead. For the wicked, this river of judgment will feel like burning lava. This river will wash hell thoroughly. Ahriman and his hierarchy of spiritual forces will be destroyed.

          One can quickly see the parallels between Zoroastrianism and Christianity. A brief catalog of shared concepts includes: a belief in God and Satan, a belief in angels and demons, a belief in heaven and hell, a belief in individual judgment at death, a belief in physical resurrection and the coming of a redeemer figure, and a belief that the world will culminate in a final battle between good and evil.
          http://historicaltextarchive.com/sections.php?action=read&artid=754

          http://www.avesta.org/

    • Omega Files

      Great article. There are many new ideas in here that I have not explored so I’ll definitely have to mull over some of this.

      “Make no mistake about it, chapter 9 of Revelation speaks of the ARMY OF THE LORD.”

      I bet this would make Krispy Critters head spin.

      • am123

        Thanks Omega.

        And yes, I bet it would make Krispy Critter’s head spin also…..and cause him to sound the alarm, echoing his silly claim that I deny saying Abaddon is on the right team :lol: .

        • Truthseeker007

          Of course, the dualistic concepts of absolute good and evil did not originate with Christianity but are found long before the Christian era, particularly within Zoroastrianism. Satan is an adaptation of the Persian representative of evil “Ahriman,” the twin brother of “God,” the same as the Egyptian Set, Horus’s twin and principal enemy also known as “Sata,” whence comes “Satan.” Horus struggles with Set in the exact manner that Jesus battles with Satan, with 40 days in the wilderness, among other similarities, such as the revealing from the mount “all the kingdoms of Earth.” This myth represents the triumph of light over dark, or the sun’s return to relieve the terror of the night. Horus/Set was the god of the two horizons; hence, Horus was the rising sun, and Set the time of the Sun-SET.”

          “… The origin of the “devil” also can be uncovered through etymology, in that the word comes from the Sanskrit term “deva” or the Persian “daeva,” both of which originally referred to angelic entities, usually female, who were demonized by Christian propagandists. In actuality, “devil” shares the same root as “divine.” In addition, “demon” is a Christian vilification of the Greek word “daemon,” which likewise referred to a divine spirit…”

          - Christ Conspiracy (257-8)

      • Truthseeker007

        It is no coincidence that the Book of Revelation is being used as a kind of blueprint for the world domination. You will notice that it speaks of the “dragon.” Instead of calling it the dragon, read it as “Draco,” the constellation Draco.

        • am123

          “Instead of calling it the dragon, read it as “Draco,””

          Instead of calling it the dragon, read it as “Satan”.

    • Truthseeker007

      THE BOOK OF THE DEAD:
      Plate II

      He is exceeding mighty and most terrible in his name Osiris. He endureth for ever and for ever in his name Un-nefer. Homage to thee, King of kings, Lord of lords, Prince of princes, who from the womb of Nut hast possessed the world and hast ruled all lands and Akert.

      http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/egipto/egypt_bookdead/bodead-plate02.htm

      THE BOOK OF THE DEAD
      Plate XXVIII
      I am lord of millions of years- I have made my nest in the uttermost parts of heaven.
      http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/egipto/egypt_bookdead/bodead-plate02.htm

      Revelation 19:16
      16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS

      PLATE I.
      who are in thy following sing unto thee with joy and bow down to the earth when they meet thee, the god of heaven, the lord of earth, the king of right and truth, the god of eternity, the everlasting ruler, the prince of all the gods, the god of life, the creator of eternity, the maker of heaven by whom is established all that therein is. The company of the gods rejoice at thy rising, the earth is glad when it beholdeth thy rays; the peoples that have been long dead come forth with cries of joy to see thy beauties.
      http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/egipto/egypt_bookdead/bodead-plate01.htm

      Nehemiah 1
      5Then I said,“O Lord, God of heaven, the great and awesome God who keeps his covenant of unfailing love with those who love him and obey his commands

      THE BOOK OF THE DEAD
      PLATE XXXVI
      A HYMN OF PRAISE TO OSIRIS THE DWELLER IN AMENTET, UN-NEFER WITHIN ABTU, Osiris Ani, triumphant, saith: Hail, O my lord, who dost traverse eternity, and whose existence endureth for ever. Hail, Lord of Lords, King of Kings, Prince, the God of gods who live with Thee,

      http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/egipto/egypt_bookdead/bodead-plate-35-36.htm
      Revelation 17
      14These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful

      History of the god Amen

      “This is the sacred god, the lord of all the gods, Amen-Ra, the lord of the throne of the world, the prince of Apt, the sacred soul who came into being in the beginning, the great god who liveth by right and truth, the first ennead which gave birth unto the other two enneads, the being in whom every god existeth, the One of One, the creator of the things which came into being when the earth took form in the beginning, whose births are hidden, whose forms are manifold, and whose growth cannot be known.

      He is the prince of princes, the mightiest of the mighty, he is greater than the gods, he is the young bull with sharp pointed horns, and he protecteth the world in his great name ‘Eternity cometh with its power and bringing therewith the bounds (?) of everlastingness.’ He is the firstborn god, the god who existed from the beginning, the governor of the world by reason of his strength, the terrible one of the two lion-gods, the aged one, the form of Khepera which existeth in all the gods, the lion of fearsome glance, the governor terrible by reason of his two eyes, the lord who shooteth forth flame [therefrom] against his enemies.He hath gone before and hath stablished all that cometh after him, and he made the universe in the beginning by his secret counsels. He is the Being who cannot be known, and he is more hidden than all the gods.
      http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/egipto/egypt_bookdead/bodead-08-ra-isis.htm

      Revelations1:
      Grace and peace to you from the one who is, who always was, and who is still to come; from the sevenfold Spirit before his throne; 5and from Jesus Christ. He is the faithful witness to these things, the first to rise from the dead, and the ruler of all the kings of the world.
      All glory to him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by shedding his blood for us. 6He has made us a Kingdom of priests for God his Father. All glory and power to him forever and ever! Amen.

      Notice the verse above gives it away as AMEN.

      Revelations 19:
      14And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. 15From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. 16On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.

      Sounds very similar to the Egyptian Gods don’t it?

      • am123

        “Sounds very similar to the Egyptian Gods don’t it?”

        Here is one HUGE difference:

        All these other gods you speak of are dead, but Jesus is alive.

        • Beef Supremacist

          Hey, am123, you INSANE chris 0 – LUNATIC!
          “jesus is alive” ONLY in your criminally INSANE, DRUGGED OUT AND poisoned BRAIN!

          See the results (am123 and his Family) of what happens to people when they eat yoga mat chemicals, aspartame-laced diet sodas, synthetic food preservatives and cheap vitamins contaminated with heavy metals.

          Unless you are living in a complete state of denial (which INSANE CHRIS 0 lunatics DO DAILY), you can’t help but notice that humanity has become a race of near-mutants who barely have a shred of health and sanity remaining.

          I take great solace IN THE FACT, THAT YOU FOOL ARE poisoning yourself and your “loved ones” DAILY, HERE in the united Fascist states of MILITARY TERROR! HERE, HAVE SOME OF YOUR “JUST” desserts, IDIOT for a white-skinned MALE ‘god’!

          am123, A Loyal “Defender OF THE FABLE!

          jesus NEVER EXISTED, FOOL!
          The fable is a fiment of your BRAIN-WASHED MIND!

          PREY TO YOUR god OF TERROR, (the prince of Peace HAHAHAHAHAHA) ALL YOU WANT, because you believing fools are committing jesus-cide DAILY!

          SUFFER!
          And, remember, I HATE YOU am123!

          Aahhhhhhhh……….. THE HORROR OF LYING, CHEATING and very VIOLENT chris O CREEPS……………. THE HORROR OF LYING, CHEATING and very VIOLENT chris O CREEPS

        • am123

          You said:

          “See the results (am123 and his Family) of what happens to people when they eat yoga mat chemicals, aspartame-laced diet sodas, synthetic food preservatives and cheap vitamins contaminated with heavy metals.”

          Actually, I have refrained from eating at Subway since it was found out that they have yoga mat chemicals in their bread. And I don’t drink aspartame-laced diet soda at all. I usually only drink old school Pepsi with real sugar. The fructose corn syrup causes liver problems. And as far as the heavy metals go, well, we’re all breathing in aluminum nano particulates from the chemtrails, aren’t we? But worry not, I trust in my God to keep me healthy!

          You also said:

          “jesus NEVER EXISTED, FOOL!”

          To think that the single greatest influence in the history of mankind, bar none, too ever walk on this planet is someone who never existed in the first place—how foolish is that :wink: ?

          You also said:

          “And, remember, I HATE YOU am123!”

          God bless!

        • HereAmI

          It’s interesting that 007 quotes from the Book of the Dead, whereas am123 quotes from the Book of the Living.
          As far as “possessing the land and ruling all nations” goes, I think we know who is being referred to here, it is the Prince of this world, the one who offered the Lord Jesus Christ all the glory thereof, if He would but bow down to worship him.
          He also states that he is “the firstborn god”; thus he was not Alpha and Omega, the Ancient of Days, without beginning or end; a created being, in other words.
          Confidence tricksters, even angelic ones, know that offering the unwary a plastic Rolex watch will frequently result in a sale.
          This is the intention.
          “Be not deceived, beloved”.

        • Truthseeker007

          Ok am123 if Jesus is alive where is he?LOL!

        • Truthseeker007

          HereAmI

          And where does the Bible state that it is the book of the living?

        • Truthseeker007

          HereAmI

          If you could stop your brainwashing for just one second you would understand that
          the stories in the Old Testament are taken from older Mesopotamian writings. Biblical authors simply altered names and changed the many “Gods” of the original writings into the one “God” or “Lord” of the Hebrew religion.

          The New Testament is assembled from patterns related to stories taken from earlier sources, such as Zoroastrian, Mithrain, Krishna, Buddhism, and Egyptian, and others, in which many verses are literally paraphrasing earlier writings, and many of the stories attributed to the story of Jesus, were lifted directly out of these other writings.

          There is nothing living about the Bible it is just a book of mostly fictional stories with deeper meanings when read symbolically.

          The philosopher, Celsus, wrote of the church leaders in the third century:
          “You utter fables, and you do not even possess the art of making them seem likely… You have altered three, four times and oftener, the texts of your own Gospels in order to deny objections to you.”

        • am123

          Truthseeker007,

          You said:

          “Ok am123 if Jesus is alive where is he?LOL!”

          At the right hand of the Father and in my heart.

        • SOM1

          @007, I remeber saying “it’s all just something for the weak-minded to make some since out of life”

          until one night at the point of death in one last hopeful thought I had begun to open just the cover of a Gideon NT and suddenly an AUDIBLE voice said my name then ” I am Jesus, I died for your sins, believe in Me and you will never perish”

          Jesus, just like the spelling sounds-

          for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
          Revelation 19

          Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
          Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live..Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice John5

          And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest Acts9

        • Truthseeker007

          am123
          So Jesus is sitting on the right hand not the left of the father in your heart? Are you talking in a parable or do you litterally believe that Jesus the savior in the New Testament Bible mythos is sitting on the fathers hand inside of your heart?

          Do you believe that you have faith in this entity?

        • Truthseeker007

          SOM1

          I’m sorry but I was a Christian for 20 years so I no longer fall for the dogma you just announced. I have been there and I have done that. I have moved on to bigger and better understandingsof the Divine. I broke out of the box and seen the bigger picture.

        • jc

          Beef…you again….i still await your arrival. Peace. May you be drawn….

    • Pharisees.org

      am123 is a convert to the gospel of PHARISEE Paul, and Christ says that Pharisee converts are children of Hell.

      HERE WE SEE IN REV. 11:1 THAT GOD MEASURES THE TEMPLE, THE TEMPLE ALTAR AND THE WORSHIPERS THEREIN

      This is the 3rd Temple to come Christ confirms (Matthew 24:15, Daniel 11:31).

      EZEKIEL’S DESCRIPTION OF GOD’S TEMPLE IS THAT HOUSE OF GOD which shall be during the 1000 year reign of Christ on earth:

      Micah 3:2 The nations shall say, let us go to the House of God that we may learn his ways

      After Christ’s 1000 year reign:

      1. Satan is let loose (Rev. 20:7)
      2. Satan deceives the Gentile nations, Gog and Magog (Rev. 20:8)
      3. Gog and Magog surround God’s Holy city to kill God’s saints, but God destroys the Gentiles with fire (Rev. 20:9)
      4. Satan is permanently placed in Hell (Rev. 20:10)
      5. All the dead are risen, and judgment occurs of mankind in Heaven (Rev. 20:11-13)
      6. Death and Hell are cast into the lake of fire (Rev. 20:14)
      7. A new Heaven and a new earth and the Holy City has no Temple because God the Father and God the Son are the Temple (Rev. 21:22)

      Revelation 11:1-4 … Rise and measure the Temple of God, and the altar, and those who worship therein. But the court outside the Temple do not measure for it is left to the Gentiles and they shall tread down the holy city for forty two months. And I will give power to my two witnesses and they shall prophesy … These are the two olive trees and two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth

      THE TWO WITNESSES are BOTH represented as being as two olive trees AND two candlesticks standing before God, and they bring the testimony of God to the world

      THE TWO JEWISH PROPHETS — OLIVE meaning of the Root of Jesse, which is Christ. CANDLESTICKS, meaning they are LIGHT to the world. They present LIGHT to the world but the world rejects the LIGHT.

      When the two Jewish prophets are finished their testimony, the BEAST:

      Rev. 11:7 … .that shall ascend out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them [the two witnesses] and kill them

      THE RISE OF THE BEAST ON EARTH IN PHYSICAL FORM, and the world wonders after the Beast because he is as physically described in Rev. Ch. 13.

      The BEAST IS AN INDIVIDUAL, an evil being:

      Rev. 19:19 And the Beast was taken, and the false prophet … and WERE CAST ALIVE INTO HELL

      Mythological appearing creatures are not out of the realm of existence, both holy creatures and unholy creatures:

      EZEKIEL 1:6-11 And everyone had four faces and four wings … the four had the face of a man, the face of a lion … the fact of an ox and the face of an eagle

      PEOPLE, CHRIST COMES BACK TO REIGN ON EARTH FOR 1000 YEARS. Christ said that the humble and the meek will inherit the earth (Matthew 5:5).

      SO WHAT DOES THAT SAY OF PHARISEE FORGERIES 1 AND 2 PETER, OF PHARISEE PAUL’S GOSPEL THAT CLAIM:

      1 Thessalonians 4:17 then we which are alive shall be caught up in the air to meet the Lord and so shall we forever be with the Lord

      2 Peter 3:10 … THE EARTH AND EVERYTHING IN IT SHALL BE BURNED UP

      I TELL YOU WHAT TO MAKE OF 1 AND 2 PETER, THE GOSPEL OF PHARISEE PAUL

      ************************LIES, LIES, LIES, LIES, LIES, LIES************************

      The ones who are taken from the earth are the EVIL PEOPLE:

      Matthew 13:41 Christ shall send forth his angels who shall remove ALL EVIL PEOPLE and all things offensive from the earth

      AM123 IS A CHILD OF HELL, twice the child of Hell than his/her master Pharisee Paul (Matthew 23:15, Acts, 23:6, 26:5, Philippians 3:5). That is why with a straight face and with no acknowledgment of the BLATANT CONTRADICTIONS they claim Paul’s gospel, 1 and 2 Peter are truth when said writings CONFLICT with the writings of Jews of the Lord, including Ezekiel, Micah, Zechariah, Isaiah, John and Matthew!

      • Pharisees.org

        Continuing with info on the BEAST, he is on the earth in spirit form, HE CARRIES THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH:

        Rev. 17:7 … I will tell you the mystery of the woman AND THE BEAST THAT CARRIES HER

        Rev. 17:11 .. and the Beast is of the seven [kings] and is himself the eighth king

        POPES OF THE VATICAN BECAME AS KINGS starting in 1964 when the world recognized the sovereignty of the Vatican by granting the Holy See (sole owner of the City State of Vatican) observer status within the UN. The current hired pope Argentine war criminal Bergoglio (as alleged) is the 5th pope king since 1964. And the Beast is with him! The Beast carries the Roman Catholic church.

        When the Beast’s time is almost up, he destroys his whore because she ain’t needed any more. She served her purpose for the Beast – SOLD THE SOULS OF MEN (Rev. 18:13). Lest one things the Protestant churches are of God:

        Revelation 17:5 … the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth

        THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS, and the harlots are all non-Catholic churches. ALL CHRISTIAN CHURCHES regardless of denomination are founded solely on the gospel of Pharisee Paul. The non-Catholic churches are harlots of the whore.

        Rev. 17:17 God puts it in the heart of the kings to give their kingdoms to the Beast

        THE KINGS GIVE THEIR POWER TO THE BEAST, when the Beast is on earth in physical form, and what does the BEAST have his kings do? DESTROY THE WHORE HE CARRIED FOR SO MANY CENTURIES:

        Rev. 17:16 … they shall hate the whore and burn her with fire

        The Catholic church will exist to almost the very end and the Synod Pharisees say to themselves:

        Rev. 18:7 … I sit as a queen, am no widow and shall never see sorrow

        Rev. 18:8 … she shall be utterly burned with fire for strong is the God who judges her

        Rev. 18:24 … for in her was found the blood of the prophets and the saints

        Matthew 23:35 Upon [Pharisees] shall come judgment for all the righteous blood shed on earth

        THE WHORE IS FOUND TO HAVE IN HER THE BLOOD OF THE PROPHETS AND SAINTS.

        Christ says PHARISEES are responsible for the shed blood of the righteous

        1 + 1 = 2

        THE WHORE HAS THE BLOOD OF THE SAINTS
        PHARISEES ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SHED BLOOD OF THE SAINTS

        THE WHORE IS OF THE PHARISEES

        As I write as Pharisees.org, the churches that Pharisee Paul and his fellow Pharisee false apostles founded for Gentiles evolved into the Roman Catholic church

      • am123

        You said:

        “EZEKIEL’S DESCRIPTION OF GOD’S TEMPLE IS THAT HOUSE OF GOD which shall be during the 1000 year reign of Christ on earth:”

        Impossible.

        17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
        18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

        —Matthew 5:17-18

        The Law of Moses will not be done away with while this present earth and heavens remain. Ezekiel’s temple is a unique temple that is part of the new heavens and new earth.

        The worship rules and regulations and temple design differ between the Law of Moses and Ezekiel’s temple. For example, the Daily sacrifice for the Law of Moses is 2 lambs. For Ezekiel’s temple, the Daily sacrifice is 1 lamb. For the Law of Moses, the Sabbath offering is 2 lambs; for Ezekiel’s temple, the Sabbath offering is 6 lambs and 1 ram. The New Moon offering for the Law of Moses is 2 bulls, 1 ram, and 7 lambs; for Ezekiel’s temple, it is 1 bull, 1 ram, and 6 lambs.

        Also, the temple equipment and designs are completely different.

        For more on Ezekiel’s temple, see:

        /spirit/2013/09/ezekiels-temple-a-christian-perspective-on-animal-sacrifices-in-eternity-2480958.html

        • Pharisees.org

          LIAR, FOR THERE IS NO TEMPLE WHEN THERE IS A NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH, THE NEW HOLY CITY JERUSALEM THAT COMES DOWN FROM HEAVEN (Rev. 21:2)

          REVELATION 21:22 AND I SAW NO TEMPLE THEREIN FOR THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY AND THE LAMB ARE THE TEMPLE OF IT

          Again MICAH 3:2 THE NATIONS SHALL SAY, LET US GO TO THE HOUSE OF GOD …

          AM123 CONTRADICTS HERSELF claiming GRACE, NO MORE LAW OF MOSES and in her comment above states that Moses’ law remains until the new Heaven and the new earth.

          WHY FOLLOW PHARISEE PAUL WHO SAYS there IS NO MORE LAW OF MOSES:

          Romans 8:2 THE LAW OF THE SPIRIT IN THE LIFE OF JESUS CHRIST freed me from the law of sin and death [the Pharisees' euphemism to describe Moses' law]

          Colossians 2:14 Christ nailed the law of God to the cross

          PHARISEE PAUL SAYS CHRIST DID AWAY WITH THE LAW BECAUSE FLESH CANNOT KEEP THE LAW OF MOSES, and flesh cannot keep the law of Moses because allegedly all flesh is captive to the law of sin and therefore all flesh does as the Pharisee:

          ROMANS 7:25 … I SERVE SIN IN MY FLESH

          Romans 7:23 … all flesh is captive to the law of sin

          YET, THE PHARISEE DOES NOT BELIEVE AS STATED ABOVE, it is his lie to the Gentiles because Pharisee Paul says:

          IF YOU LOVE MOSES’ LAW YOU WILL KEEP IT, and he says that by stating:

          Hebrews 10:28-29 HE THAT HATED MOSES’ LAW DIED WITHOUT MERCY upon the witness of two or more

          HATERS OF MOSES’ LAW BREAK MOSES LAW and by logical extension Pharisee Paul is therefore stating LOVERS OF MOSES’ LAW KEEP MOSES LAW. And what does the Pharisee say:

          Galatians 2:15 WE ARE JEWS BY NATURE AND NOT SINNERS OF THE GENTILES

        • am123

          You said:

          “LIAR, FOR THERE IS NO TEMPLE WHEN THERE IS A NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH, THE NEW HOLY CITY JERUSALEM THAT COMES DOWN FROM HEAVEN (Rev. 21:2)”

          There is no temple in the New Jerusalem. But from the Book of Ezekiel, you can see there is a temple to the north of the city proper. Go to the link I provided above for more details on that.

          You can tie Ezekiel’s temple together with the new heavens and new earth by comparing Revelation 22:2 and Ezekiel 47:12:

          “In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.”

          —Revelation 22:2

          “And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.”

          —Ezekiel 47:12

        • iamamerican

          Just an FYI, you can make a chemtrail buster, it’s called ‘orgonite’ and it works.

        • Pharisees.org

          that’s right child of Hell am123 ignore the WEIGHTIER MATTER which is your freaking SELF-CONTRADICTORY STATEMENTS:

          1. YOU STATE IN THIS ARTICLE THAT MOSES’ LAW REMAINS UNTIL THE NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH

          2. IN OTHER OF YOUR ARTICLES YOU CLAIM GRACE, NO MORE LAW OF MOSES

          Just a freak? What the ??? is your problem? I know, CHILD OF HELL is what you’ve become because you adopted the doctrine of Pharisee Paul.

          EZEKIEL 46:24 … where the ministers of the house shall boil the sacrifice of the people

          Ezekiel 47:1 And again he brought me to the door of the house [Temple] and behold water issued from under the threshold of the house eastward … AND AT THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ALTAR

          the above passage is speaking of the TEMPLE OF GOD that exists WHEN CHRIST REIGNS FOR 1000 YEARS ON EARTH. When Gentile nations shall be obliged to:

          ZECHARIAH 14:16-18 … KEEP THE FEAST OF TABERNACLES … WHOEVER WILL NOT COME … SHALL RECEIVE NO RAIN

          yo child of Hell am123 so much for your master Pharisee who says:

          GALATIANS 4:10-11 YOU OBSERVE DAYS, MONTHS, YEARS AND TIMES. I AM AFRAID I HAVE LABORED FOR YOU IN VAIN

          YOUR FREAK OF HELL MASTER DOESN’T WANT PEOPLE TO DO AS GOD COMMANDS.
          There is the Christians’ false apostle Pharisee saying he’s afraid for those who want to observe days of God, such as Sabbath (which is for the Jews and Gentiles staying with Jews), to observe the Passover (for Jews & Gentiles staying with Jews), to observe the Feast of Tabernacles.

          We see when Christ reigns he commands Gentile nations to OBSERVE TIME, the Feast of Tabernacles, and if they refuse to do so, they won’t receive rain.

          EZEKIEL 48:10 … AND THE SANCTUARY OF THE LORD SHALL BE IN THE MIDST THEREOF

          The sanctuary is the Temple, Ezekiel passage above speaks of CHRIST’S 1000 YEAR REIGN ON EARTH. The Temple exists then and the Lord is there.

          In the new Heaven and new Earth, THERE IS NO SANCTUARY:

          Revelation 21:22 THERE IS NO TEMPLE [SANCTUARY] THEREIN BECAUSE THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY AND THE LAMB ARE THE TEMPLE

          AGAIN THE LAST FEW CHAPTERS OF EZEKIEL ARE SPEAKING OF THE TEMPLE THAT EXISTS DURING CHRIST’S 1000 YEAR REIGN:

          Ezekiel 46:13 You shall daily prepare a burnt offering to the Lord …. you shall prepare it every morning

          THERE IS NO MORNING AND EVENING IN THE NEW HEAVEN, NEW EARTH, liar am123 fool child of Hell convert or do you now understand you have been following a LYING PHARISEE?

          REVELATION 21:23 AND THE CITY HAD NO NEED FOR SUN OR MOON BECAUSE THE GLORY OF GOD LIGHTENED IT AND THE LAMB IS THE LIGHT THEREOF

          REV. 21:25 … THERE SHALL BE NO NIGHT THERE

          NO WHERE DOES IT STATE IN REVELATION THAT IN THE NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH THAT ARE DAILY BURNT SACRIFICES, NO SPEAKING OF SEAS, MEASUREMENT OF BORDERS, AS THERE IS IN THE LAST FEW CHAPTERS OF EZEKIEL.

          am123 is a Pharisee Paul convert so can’t figure out right from left, truth from lies and thinks there will be a Temple in the new heaven, new earth when clearly NO THERE IS NOT

          REV. 22:11 THERE IS NO TEMPLE THEREIN

        • am123

          Silly Pharisees, both Revelation and Ezekiel speak of the time of the new heavens and new earth when there is no night:

          “And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.”

          —Revelation 22:5

          6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

          7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

          —Zechariah 14:6-7

        • Omega Files

          Pharisees:

          Have you ever heard of MK-ULTRA?

        • am123

          Has Pharisees ever heard of MK-ULTRA? He’s probably the poster boy for it :lol:

        • Truthseeker007

          MK-ULTRA: In the 1950s to the 1970s, the CIA ran a mind-control project aimed at finding a “truth serum” to use on communist spies. Test subjects were given LSD and other drugs, often without consent, and some were tortured. At least one man, civilian biochemist Frank Olson, who was working for the government, died as a result of the experiments. The project was finally exposed after investigations by the Rockefeller Commission.

          A short video about MK-ULTRA from a documentary called Secrets of the CIA:

          http://www.infowars.com/33-conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-true-what-every-person-should-know/

        • Pharisees.org

          LOOK AT THE CHILD OF HELL AM123 SLEIGHT OF HAND. I HAVE ARGUED CORRECTLY IN MY COMMENTS THAT THE LAST FEW CHAPTERS OF EZEKIEL ARE SPEAKING OF THE TEMPLE THAT EXISTS WHEN CHRIST REIGNS ON EARTH.

          AND IN DEFIANCE OF THE TRUTH, the evil child of Hell Pharisee Paul convert Am123 states:

          Silly Pharisees, both Revelation and Ezekiel speak of the time of the new heavens and new earth when there is no night:

          “And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.”

          —Revelation 22:5

          6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

          7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

          —Zechariah 14:6-7

          MORON CHILD OF HELL, that ain’t Ezekiel you quote in your comment, what a freaking drag on the good people to have children of Hell deceivers hell bent on their Pharisee and his false christ.

          NOTE the child of Hell said nothing of Pharisee Paul stating:

          Galatians 1:10-11 You guys, I’m worried about you cause you wanting to observe days, times, months, years and so you guys are just totally lost on my gospel of freedom from Moses’ law because you want to do as aforesaid

          THE CHRISTIANS’ APOSTLE PHARISEE RABBI JEW/HEBREW PAUL doesn’t want his convert children of Hell scum following any thing of Moses law EXCEPT

          Deuteronomy 25:4 Do not muzzle an ox when it is threshing grain

          YOU FREAKING THINK GOD CARES ABOUT OXEN, know way my children of Hell converts, that command from God is for us Pharisees, yeah you our converts are commanded by Moses to give us money :twisted: :twisted:

          Back off you Gentile dogs, go raise the funds to take care of your widows and don’t look to us church rulers to give you money. Now you dogs obey Moses law and pay your church rulers well.

          1 Timothy 5:16-18 Take care of your own widows and do not look to the church to take care of them. Obey Moses command and pay your church rulers well

          BACK TO GALATIANS 1:10-11 where the dog master of the dog children of Hell says he don’t want any one paying attention to God-instituted feasts, gatherings, etc. AM123 THE DOPE CHILD OF HELL QUOTES ZECHARIAH WRITING THAT CONFLICTS WITH HER ANTI-CHRIST MASTER:

          Zechariah 14:16-18 The nations shall come to Jerusalem to observe the Feast of Tabernacles and those nations that do not come, they shall receive no rain

          CHRIST’S 1000 YEAR REIGN ON EARTH CALLS FOR OBSERVANCE OF TIMES, YEARS, DAYS, MONTHS

          CHILD OF HELL AM123 you blind jackrear quoting Ezekiel’s last few chapters where he says

          DAILY, EVERY MORNING THERE SHALL BE A BURNT SACRIFICE OFFERED TO THE LORD

          The evil children of Hell scream against that, saying no more Jew stuff sacrifice and why? IT IS WHAT IT IS and I have no problem with Christ wanting to do with his priests what they were commanded to do when Christ was not on earth and now with Christ present the holy priests of the Lord

          *****WITHOUT INTERFERENCE FROM THE CURRENT HUSBANDMEN OF THE EARTH PHARISEES AND SCRIBES (Matthew 21:33-46)*******************

          and without interference because Christ says in the above mentioned passage that when he returns he will destroy those evil men:

          Matthew 13:41 Christ shall send forth his angels who will remove all evil people and all things that are offensive from the earth

          child of Hell am123 has no shame, a liar and being of Satan who is the father of lies. being of the spirit of anti-Christ, being an anti-Christ:

          1 John 2:18 You have heard that the anti-Christ shall come and now there are many anti-Christs

          Matthew 23:15 Pharisees are children of Hell and their converts are twice the children of Hell than Pharisees

          1 John 4:3 Every spirit that denies that Christ came in the flesh is of that spirit of anti-Christ

          Romans 8:3 Christ came in the likeness of flesh

          Though the children of Hell profess that Christ came in the flesh, in practice they deny that Christ came in the flesh because they hold to the doctrine of Pharisee Paul that all flesh is captive to the law of sin (Romans 7:23, 7:25). Pharisee Paul says he is a good spirit trapped in a body that does evil (Romans 7:17, 7:25, 7:24).

          Christ the Son of God is a good spirit and he came in the flesh and he was able to remain good, never sinned. Therefore, to blame flesh for one’s evil deeds is to say Christ did not come in the flesh because then he too, though a good spirit, would have been as Paul, I DON’T KNOW HOW TO DO GOOD, I DO EVIL

          But then the Pharisee DOES NOT BELIEVE the lies he taught Gentiles, Gentiles a sucker, children of Hell prey, those who adopt Paul’s gospel:

          Hebrews 10:28-29 He that HATED Moses law died without mercy upon witness of two or more

          PAUL SAYS HATRED causes people to break Moses law, and by logical extension — LOVE FOR MOSES LAW CAUSES PEOPLE TO KEEP MOSES LAW

          The Pharisees did not claim they were lawbreakers, all that freaking evil nonsense foundational teachings that underpin Paul’s gospel for the Protestants set forth in Romans 7:16-7:25 ain’t what the Pharisees think of themselves:

          GALATIANS 2:15 WE ARE JEWS BY NATURE AND NOT SINNERS OF THE GENTILES

          The Protestant children of Hell believe on Romans 7:16-7:25, they therefore deny that Christ came in the flesh for the reason stated above.

        • am123

          Pharisees said:

          “MORON CHILD OF HELL, that ain’t Ezekiel you quote in your comment,”

          You are correct :wink: that I made a mistake on the quote….thanks :!:

          Here is the correct tie in between the new heavens and new earth in Revelation and in Ezekiel:

          “In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.”

          —Revelation 22:2

          “And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.”

          —Ezekiel 47:12

          So it is impossible for Ezekiel’s temple to be in existence during the Millennial Reign because it is part of the new earth.

        • Pharisees.org

          PEOPLE WHO ARE GOOD, APPRECIATE INTELLECTUAL HONESTY, ain’t looking to lie, deceive

          REVELATION 21:22 There is NO Temple therein, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the Temple

          EZEKIEL 47:1 … from the right side of the House (TEMPLE) at the south side of the ALTAR

          EZEKIEL 46:16 You shall prepare a daily burnt sacrifice to the Lord. Every MORNING you shall prepare it.

          IN THE NEW HEAVEN, THERE IS NO MORNING OR EVENING, THERE IS NO MORE SUN AND MOON, IT IS FOREVER LIGHT!

          Therefore, Ezekiel IS NOT speaking of a Temple in the new Heaven, new earth – HE IS SPEAKING OF THE TEMPLE THAT WILL BE DURING CHRIST’S 1000 YEAR REIGN ON EARTH

          Not, every morning a sacrifice is performed. Morning, evening – sun and moon. BUT IN THE NEW EARTH:

          Rev. 21:25 … THERE SHALL BE NO NIGHT

          no night means no morning! you freaking dope child of Hell am123

        • am123

          “Therefore, Ezekiel IS NOT speaking of a Temple in the new Heaven, new earth – HE IS SPEAKING OF THE TEMPLE THAT WILL BE DURING CHRIST’S 1000 YEAR REIGN ON EARTH”

          Don’t you believe the law of Moses is still intact during the Millennial Reign? It is still intact as long as this present earth and heavens remain. And the offerings and sacrifices for the law of Moses are DIFFERENT than the offerings and sacrifices for Ezekiel’s temple.

        • Pharisees.org

          Ezekiel 46:20 This is the place where the priests shall boil the trespassing offering and the sin offering

          Ezekiel 46:24 … where the ministers of the house [Temple] shall boil the sacrifice of the people

          Ezekiel 47:1 … from the right side of the house [Temple] at the south side of the altar [Temple altar]

          Clearly, Ezekiel is speaking of a Temple, an altar and he says every morning there shall be a burnt offering to the Lord:

          Ezekiel 46:13 … you shall prepare it every morning

          CONTRAST THE FOREGOING WITH:

          Revelation 21:22 And I saw NO TEMPLE therein for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the Temple

          Revelation 21:25 … there shall be NO NIGHT THERE

          Being there is no night, how can the priests know when it is morning and therefore time to prepare the daily sacrifice? Being that there is no more sun or moon, how can the priests know it is sunrise (morning) and therefore time to prepare the daily sacrifice?

          CLEARLY, Ezekiel Chapters 46-48 speaks of a HOUSE (TEMPLE) and an ALTAR, speaks of morning – none of which exist in the new heaven, new earth.

          child of Hell am123 round about psycho jerk, for that was its last argument that I correctly refuted, so the anti-Christ am123 quoted Zechariah and I pointed out its mistake and now its back to its original failed argument.

          am123, you are a pyscho clown

        • am123

          “IN THE NEW HEAVEN, THERE IS NO MORNING OR EVENING, THERE IS NO MORE SUN AND MOON, IT IS FOREVER LIGHT!”

          Not true:

          22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.

          23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

          —Isaiah 66:22-23

        • Pharisees.org

          am123 writes: “Don’t you believe the law of Moses is still intact during the Millennial Reign? It is still intact as long as this present earth and heavens remain. And the offerings and sacrifices for the law of Moses are DIFFERENT than the offerings and sacrifices for Ezekiel’s temple.”

          THEN WHY IS THE EVIL AM123 PREACHING GRACE, NO MORE LAW, AS DOES ITS MASTER PHARISEE PAUL?

          WANT TO QUOTE FROM EZEKIEL WHERE IT STATES THE SACRIFICES REQUIRED BY MOSES’ LAW ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE SACRIFICES (OR OFFERINGS) FOR GOD’S TEMPLE AS DESCRIBED BY EZEKIEL?

          AND AGAIN, EZEKIEL INDEED DESCRIBES A TEMPLE, WITH AN ALTAR AND

          REVELATION 21:22 AND I SAW NO TEMPLE THEREIN

          so down in flames goes the child of Hell’s contention that Ezekiel describes a temple that exists in the new earth.

          ISAIAH 66:22 FOR THE NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH WHICH SHALL REMAIN BEFORE ME, SO SHALL YOUR SEED AND NAME REMAIN

          The one passage above speaks of the new earth and God says it remains before him (forever) just as the seed of Israel (Jacob Genesis 35:10) and name shall remain

          The next verse is NOT speaking of the new earth, new heaven BECAUSE THERE IS NO MORE SUN, NO MORE MOON

          ISAIAH 66:23 AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS that from one new moon to another and from one sabbath to another, all flesh shall come to worship before me

          BUT IN THE NEW EARTH THERE IS NO NEED TO COME TO GOD, FOR GOD DWELLS WITH ALL OF MANKIND:

          Revelation 21:3 … BEHOLD, THE TABERNACLE OF GOD IS WITH MEN AND HE WILL DWELL WITH THEM AND THEY SHALL BE HIS PEOPLE AND GOD HIMSELF SHALL BE WITH THEM

          THE SMOKING GUN PROOF:

          REVELATION 21:4 … AND THERE SHALL BE NO MORE DEATH OR SORROW

          But we know that after Christ’s 1000 year reign THERE IS DEATH, because Satan is let loose for a while, goes out to deceive the Gentile nations, Gog and Magog, and those Gentiles are KILLED by God.

          Once the Gog and Magog are destroyed, then begins God’s judgment of all dead (Rev. 20:11-15) and THEN THE NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH WHERE THERE WILL BE NO MORE DEATH.

          Revelation 20:8 Satan shall go out to deceive … Gog and Magog ….

          Rev. 20:9 … and fire came down from God out of heaven and destroyed them

        • am123

          Pharisees said:

          “WANT TO QUOTE FROM EZEKIEL WHERE IT STATES THE SACRIFICES REQUIRED BY MOSES’ LAW ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE SACRIFICES (OR OFFERINGS) FOR GOD’S TEMPLE AS DESCRIBED BY EZEKIEL?”

          Sure.

          DAILY SACRIFICE according to Law of Moses is 2 lambs:

          “The one lamb shalt thou offer in the morning, and the other lamb shalt thou offer at even;”
          —Numbers 28:4

          DAILY SACRIFICE in EZEKIEL’s Temple is 1 lamb:

          “Thou shalt daily prepare a burnt offering unto the Lord of a lamb of the first year without blemish: thou shalt prepare it every morning.”
          —Ezekiel 46:13

          SABBATH SACRIFICE according to Law of Moses is 2 lambs:

          9 And on the sabbath day two lambs of the first year without spot, and two tenth deals of flour for a meat offering, mingled with oil, and the drink offering thereof:
          10 This is the burnt offering of every sabbath, beside the continual burnt offering, and his drink offering.

          —Numbers 28:9-10

          SABBATH SACRIFICE in EZEKIEL’s Temple is 6 lambs + 1 ram:

          “And the burnt offering that the prince shall offer unto the Lord in the sabbath day shall be six lambs without blemish, and a ram without blemish.”

          —Ezekiel 46:4

          The New Moon offering for the Law of Moses is 2 bulls, 1 ram, and 7 lambs; for Ezekiel’s temple, it is 1 bull, 1 ram, and 6 lambs.

          The temple equipment and designs are completely different. In Ezekiel’s temple, there is no Table of Showbread, no Golden Lampstand, no Altar of incense, no veil, and no Ark of the Covenant. The sacrificial Altar will be approached by a ramp from the east. Previously, all altars were approached from the south.

        • Omega Files

          Pharisees, you are a persistent little leach.

          am123, I commend you for taking the time to reason with this foul creature. I’d be shocked if anyone else has actually read more than a sentence from a single post by this clown besides you

        • am123

          “I’d be shocked if anyone else has actually read more than a sentence from a single post by this clown besides you”

          I think I’d rather have a root canal Omega no, I’d rather do pushups on broken glass than read his posts in their entirety, so I don’t do that :lol: .

          I scan his posts for stuff from the Word I can use against him. Let him deal with that for all to see :shock: .

          C’mon Pharisees :mad: , do you or do you not subscribe to the law of Moses and it’s system of sacrifices and offerings :?:

          If your answer is “yes”, how do you explain Ezekiel’s temple then, with sacrifices and offerings that are different than those instituted by Moses :?:

      • Pharisees.org

        Isaiah 66:22 speaks of the new earth

        Isaiah 66:23 refers to the time when Christ reigns on earth

        We know from Rev. 21:23 THERE IS NO MORE SUN OR MORE MOON therefore Isaiah 66:23 CANNOT BE REFERRING TO THE NEW EARTH BECAUSE THERE IS NO MORE SUN OR MOON WITH THE NEW EARTH, God is the light of the new earth.

        We know from Rev. 21:3 That God is dwelling with all of mankind

        We know from Rev. 21:23 that were God is dwelling there is no need of the sun or moon because the glory of God lights where he dwells and we know from Rev. 21:3 that God dwells with all men

        am123 is a dope, claiming that the altar and House (Temple) described in Ezekiel’s last few chapters is that which exists in the new earth, but we know from Rev. 21:22 it states clearly, THERE IS NO TEMPLE IN THE NEW EARTH, NEW HEAVEN.

        • am123

          “Rev. 21:22 it states clearly, THERE IS NO TEMPLE IN THE NEW EARTH, NEW HEAVEN.”

          No, it does not.

          It says there is no temple in the NEW JERUSALEM.

          The temple is in a northern suburb if you will of the city proper of the NEW JERUSALEM. For the explanation of that from Scripture, see:

          /spirit/2013/09/ezekiels-temple-a-christian-perspective-on-animal-sacrifices-in-eternity-2480958.html

          God is coming down to earth to live with mankind when the NEW JERUSALEM comes down out of heaven. Hallelujah forever and ever amen:!: :lol:

          “….the name of the city from that day shall be, The Lord is there.”

          —Ezekiel 48:35

    • SOM1

      Verily, verily (ha) you’re clearly onto some mysteriously good stuff and hopefully these will add something er another

      Jesus held his peace, And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God. Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.Matthew26

      the Lord hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet. Nahum1

      clouds, dust of feet, interesting eh?

      For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.
      But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man that thou visitest him?Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands Hebrews2

      But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. Galatians4

      she was of Judah (Heb.7.14), as well as the woman (dominately) associated with my testimony

      For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.
      But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man that thou visitest him?Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands Hebrews2

      Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. Hebrews7

      And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. Revelation 5
      ~
      The wolf will live with the lamb,
      the leopard will lie down with the goat,
      the calf and the lion and the yearling together;
      and a little child will lead them. Isaiah11NIV
      ~
      Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of TWAIN one new man, so making peace;
      Ephesians 2
      ~
      And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.
      Luke 22
      ~
      For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah9
      ~
      Jesus asked them,Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The son of David. He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? Matthew22

      For if Joshua had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. Hebrews4
      ~
      And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
      Luke 6
      ~
      And his eyes are a flame of fire, and upon his head are many diadems; and he hath a name written which no one knoweth but he himself.
      Revelation 19
      ~
      His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.Daniel10

      fact: all electrical connections depend on copper(brass),
      internet: type of clean effecient speedy mode of transportation, from A-Z

      Then the spirit entered into me, and set me upon my feet, and spake with me, and said unto me, Go, shut thyself within thine house. But thou, O son of man, behold, they shall put bands upon thee, and shall bind thee with them, and thou shalt not go out among them: And I will make thy tongue cleave to the roof of thy mouth, that thou shalt be dumb, and shalt not be to them a reprover: for they are a rebellious house. But when I speak with thee, I will open thy mouth, and thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; He that heareth, let him hear; and he that forbeareth, let him forbear: for they are a rebellious house. Ezekiel3

      shut up, tied up, tongue cleaved and speaks to them? -

      Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.
      He shall not strive, nor cry; neither shall any man hear his voice in the streets.Matthew12

      along those lines (like the Joel2 you posted), have you wondered how “the fire before them”"flame behind them”"mountain leap”"face the people”"all faces”"fall upon sword..not wounded”"houses”"wall”"through the WINDOWS like a theif”??, ha

      and these-

      And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above..And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host..And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it…And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about.As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake. Ezekiel1
      ~
      And their whole body, and their backs, and their hands, and their wings, and the wheels, were full of eyes round about, even the wheels that they four had.
      As for the wheels, it was cried unto them in my hearing, O wheel.
      And every one had four faces: the first face was the face of a cherub, and the second face was the face of a man, and the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle..and the likeness of the hands of a man was under their wings.Ezekiel10
      ~
      And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
      Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal Revelation21
      ~
      And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.
      Revelation 4
      ~
      Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
      But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.2Corinthians3

      he that cometh from heaven is above all.And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony. John3

      For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
      And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
      Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another Job19

      Even now, behold, my witness is in heaven, and he that coucheth for me is on high Job16ERV

      • SOM1

        dangit! I put Hebrews 2 twice, anyway here’s a few more thought fitting

        And it shall come to pass in that day, I will hear, saith the Lord, I will hear the heavens, and they shall hear the earth Hosea2

        And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly..The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
        1 Corinthians 15

        Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
        Acts 2

        For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
        Romans 14

        And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
        Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice John5

        Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.
        So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army. Ezekiel37

        But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband. Galatians4

      • am123

        You have brought up some interesting things. Like the army of the Lord in Joel 2 entering the windows like a thief. And we know Jesus is coming like a thief. And you mentioned the living creatures. They make sounds similar to the army of the Lord:

        “And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: when they stood, they let down their wings.”
        —Ezekiel 1:24

        “They shall hold the bow and the lance: they are cruel, and will not shew mercy: their voice shall roar like the sea, and they shall ride upon horses, every one put in array, like a man to the battle, against thee, O daughter of Babylon.”
        —Jeremiah 50:42

        “And in that day they shall roar against them like the roaring of the sea: and if one look unto the land, behold darkness and sorrow, and the light is darkened in the heavens thereof.”
        —Isaiah 5:30

        Thanks for your contributions SOM1. Grace and peace to you.

        • SOM1

          If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea;
          Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me.
          If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me.
          Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.
          For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother’s womb.
          I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.
          My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
          Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them. Ps139

          Gracias, you too

    • danielreyes

      11 Make bright the arrows; gather the shields: the Lord hath raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes: for his device is against Babylon, to destroy it; because it is the vengeance of the Lord, the vengeance of his temple. 12 Set up the standard upon the walls of Babylon, make the watch strong, set up the watchmen, prepare the ambushes: for the Lord hath both devised and done that which he spake against the inhabitants of Babylon.

      —Jeremiah 51:11-12

      I did want to discontinue reading when I got to this point in your article. I gave the benefit of a doubt though and skimmed through the rest. No opinions here, cant say whats correct or incorrect. Im pretty sure the Medes as in Medo Persia conquered Babylon in this verse though.

      The manchild is written of in Isaiah 66v7 “Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she gave birth to a boy”

      Also if I may quote from gnostic gospel of Thomas 15. Jesus said, “When you see one who was not born of woman, fall on your faces and worship. That one is your Father.”

      Acts 1v11 They also said, “men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in just the same way as you have watched him go into heaven.”

      • am123

        “No opinions here, cant say whats correct or incorrect.”

        Well, I would say chew on it a while, consider it.

        And if I may be forthright with you danielreyes, Jesus would never say such a thing as this:

        “Also if I may quote from gnostic gospel of Thomas 15. Jesus said, “When you see one who was not born of woman, fall on your faces and worship. That one is your Father.””

        For should we fall down and worship before Adam :?:

        Of course not.

        Or before any of the millions or even billions of angels :?:

        Absolutely not :mad: :!:

        • danielreyes

          Now you know very well that wasnt the discussion here. Nobody brought up Adam or “angels”. We are talking about the male child to rule the nations with an iron rod.

          If you cant realize such a simple thing who’s to say that what else youve written is correct? Just sayin’..

          I was in fact only adding verses similar to your claim, maybe even reinforced the claim.

          Christ says people will no longer see him until they say blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Then that will be lead by Acts 1v11. People leave out things they dont understand, it doesnt quite add up in the average Christian mind. Psalm 91, then Satans temptation of Christ. Id say these are good starting points for a true believer. How is it that the angels of God will bear up Christ so he doesnt dash his foot against a stone?

          To truly answer we need to look at what Christ says of John the Baptist! He is/was Elijah, its quite simple! He is the voice crying in the wilderness as written in Isaiah, also a person to bring the hearts of sons, daughters, fathers and mothers together as written in Malachi. Most important Samuel was brought up from death in the spirit only to curse Saul again. These are scripture that Christ read and based his entire understanding and teachings. In Luke after Satans temptation it says Satan left Jesus until an opportune time.

          Which opportune time? The one before he nearly strikes his foot against a stone and has to be beared up by angels and dropped off in Jerusalem perhaps?

          There is a parable that explains this, A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground? And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.

          — Luke 13:6–9

          So people say the man is God, the vine dresser is Christ. The fig tree is Israel, the fruit is good works. It will never make sense until we put everything together.

          So now naturally when we see and put it all together, Christ will repeat the process he did at first, except only one year in Israel and made happen by the angels of God. Now also the ten minas parable would come in place after that. Then the budding fig tree upon return with all exiles and 2nd great exodus to a budding fig tree. Finally now that its close at the door, a death of a man and resurrection of a male child.

          Many are called but few are chosen.

        • am123

          “Now you know very well that wasnt the discussion here. Nobody brought up Adam or “angels”. We are talking about the male child to rule the nations with an iron rod.”

          The reference to Adam and angels was in response to your quote from the Gnostic gospel of Thomas. My point was Adam was not born of a woman and neither are angels. I apologize for the confusion. I appreciate your attempt to add things to the discussion.

        • SOM1

          Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.John4

          Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. Galatians4

          He that cometh from above is above all John3

        • Alan

          Son worships Father, Man {adam}, whom is the knowledgeable one, giving unto Son all his power of knowledge, and even grace.

          A machine needs no mother, se. :roll:

        • SOM1

          :arrow: A machine needs no mother, se.

          but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
          Romans 12

          For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.Habakkuk2

          all things were created by him, and for him Colossians1

          grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
          2 Peter 3

          There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.Galatians3

          Did not he that made me in the womb make him? and did not one fashion us in the womb? Job31

          But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ
          Ephesians 4

          A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world. John16

    • HerusaAustsaAusar

      Great article… The bible is so misunderstood. It is NOT the word of god it was written by humans, guided by the holy spirit… so that means what???

      Now you search the scriptures because you think you will have salvation. Well Ive read many books over my lifetime and if there is any history book that could be more to the point its the bible… It clearly is a trap. Designed to entangle the one who wants heaven without putting in the work.. I understand the bible to be a living testimony of humanities attemt to manage god. Rather than seek him out you seek the shortcuts in life…forgiveness, sinning, no repentance nor following the 10 commandments, but hey lets live our way tell god what to do and well well get to heaven. Lucifers greatest trick was making you believe there is no devil…and that you will not die for your sins….period. sins are normal and everyone does em. thats the lie not everyone sins believe it or not…

      • SOM1

        :arrow: “Rather than seek him out you seek the shortcuts in life…forgiveness, sinning, no repentance nor following the 10 commandments, but hey lets live our way tell god what to do and well well get to heaven.”

        Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? John7

        For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
        And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people. Acts3

        And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. Luke24

        God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? Hebrews1

        Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. Galatians3

        Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
        Galatians 4

        Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law

        But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

        Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God

        that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

        Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
        Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. Romans3

        He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.John3

        I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.

        It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. John8

        He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
        John 12

        • Truthseeker007

          When one examines chapter 125 of the Egyptian Book of the Dead (around 2600 B.C.),
          you can see that the 10 commandments were not original.

          There is also some similarity between the story of the Ten Commandments and the Code of Hammurapi, dated around 1772 B.C.

          So no the 10 commandments didn’tcome from some god but were copied and changed a bit to create this new Hebrew religion.

        • Truthseeker007

          https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/prec/www/course/egypt/274RH/Texts/BookOfDead.htm
          Book of the Dead

          1.great God, Lord
          2.I have come to you, my Lord
          3.Who live by warding off evildoers
          4.Having repelled evil for you
          5.I have not done crimes against people
          6.I have not sinned in the Place of Truth
          7.I have not blasphemed a god
          8.I have not robbed the poor
          9.I have not killed
          10.I have not ordered to kill
          11.I have not cheated in the fields
          12.I have not done evil
          13.I have not robbed
          14.I have not coveted
          15.I have not stolen
          16. I have not killed people
          17. I have not cheated
          18.I have not told lies
          19.I have not trespassed
          20. I have not committed adultery
          21. I have not defiled myself
          22.I have not trespassed
          23. I have not sinned, I have not done wrong
          24. I have not cursed a god
          25.I have not cursed god in my town

    • HerusaAustsaAusar

      Heres the full 42 negative confessions:

      I have not committed sin.
      I have not committed robbery with violence.
      I have not stolen.
      I have not slain men or women.
      I have not stolen food.
      I have not swindled offerings.
      I have not stolen from God/Goddess.
      I have not told lies.
      I have not carried away food.
      I have not cursed.
      I have not closed my ears to truth.
      I have not committed adultery.
      I have not made anyone cry.
      I have not felt sorrow without reason.
      I have not assaulted anyone.
      I am not deceitful.
      I have not stolen anyone’s land.
      I have not been an eavesdropper.
      I have not falsely accused anyone.
      I have not been angry without reason.
      I have not seduced anyone’s wife.
      I have not polluted myself.
      I have not terrorized anyone.
      I have not disobeyed the Law.
      I have not been exclusively angry.
      I have not cursed God/Goddess.
      I have not behaved with violence.
      I have not caused disruption of peace.
      I have not acted hastily or without thought.
      I have not overstepped my boundaries of concern.
      I have not exaggerated my words when speaking.
      I have not worked evil.
      I have not used evil thoughts, words or deeds.
      I have not polluted the water.
      I have not spoken angrily or arrogantly.
      I have not cursed anyone in thought, word or deeds.
      I have not placed myself on a pedestal.
      I have not stolen what belongs to God/Goddess.
      I have not stolen from or disrespected the deceased.
      I have not taken food from a child.
      I have not acted with insolence.
      I have not destroyed property belonging to God/Goddess

      • MSG Chicken

        I like the Bible ones much better. The above sounds like human crap.

      • Neo

        Whoever says they have no sin is a liar and the truth is not in him. If you think your own righteousness will get you into heaven, you will be sorely disappointed.

    • HerusaAustsaAusar

      so there you go quoting scripture again so…what is the new news bro?? HUH?? what is it who are the 2 witnesses?? new revelations my ass.. you know anyone can quote scripture. even the devil.

      • am123

        What I have revealed is who the two witnesses are in Scripture (Jesus and Zerubbabel), and the one represented by Zerubabbel is the man child in Revelation chapter 12 and he is one and the same with Abaddon. I know of no one who has made these same connections from the Scriptures. If you ever hear of anyone proclaiming the same, please let me know.

    • Barnsweb

      Of the two pillars: Moses established the gracious instructions of God (Torah), and Jesus (Y’shua) is He who upholds it with strength. Everything He taught is centered in Torah and He warns those who are Lawless (torahless) that He never knew them. Both Torah and the Hope of the coming Kingdom of God are two witnesses of the same thing.

      Repent and do as God said – don’t just be a hearer who doesn’t do what God has instructed. Moses gave a list – Jesus taught and models the truth of God’s gracious instruction. As the Genesis 5 name prophecy says: “Man is appointed mortal sorrow. The blessed God shall come down teaching. His death shall bring the despairing – comfort, rest.

      onediscipletoanother.org

      See “What does God require” – He fulfilled the prophecy to glorify the Torah and make it honorable and to cause the Gentiles to keep it.

      Do we believe God or liars who pretend to speak in His name? As Jesus said, man is to live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.

    • messengermark

      Correct me if I’m wrong but Michael the Archangel is the one who has the chain to bind Satan for a1000 years

      • am123

        Michael kicks Satan out of heaven:

        7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
        8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
        9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

        —REV 12:7-9

        The one who chains or binds Satan for a thousand years is the angel with the key to the bottomless pit:

        1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
        2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
        —REV 20:1-2

        And if you read chapter 9 of Revelation, you’ll see that the angel with the key to the bottomless pit is the Destroyer, or Abaddon.

    • messengermark

      Malachi 4:5 Behold I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of theLord

    • Manichee

      God Bless You am123 :grin:

      • am123

        Same to you Manichjee! :lol:

    • J.A.S.O.N

      That Abbadon guy sounds scary!!! I wouldn’t want to meet him.And I deffinatly wouldn’t want to be a child molester in his presence or a idolterer. Or a murderer of small children of any sort. I wonder if he has any catch phases like “I am the punishment of God if you had not sinned in the eyes of heaven a punishment like me would not have been unleashed upon you.” And how would he do such a thing? It would be funny if all he had to do was write a book. But that will never happen I mean “Who is like God?”

    • HumanBeing

      I haven’t read your whole article yet, but vs. 9 has the plural, ptOmata, and the 3rd person plural pronoun is used throughout. So it doesn’t seem to me that the one instance of the singular is significant enough upon which to say that it should not be treated as plural in translations. :smile:

      • am123

        Actually, the singular instance is used twice, once in verse 8 and once in verse 9. And that is in the original Greek manuscript. So for whatever reason, the original Greek was changed by translators. And I go on to show in the rest of the article that the overall theme and scenarios of the eschatological Scriptures are more congruent with one person and not two.

    • searcher11

      Let me share a clue that will allow us to see clearly the ends of at least three ages in prophecy:
      The end of the Age of the Israelites, the end of the First Dominion of Messiah, and the end of the Gentile Age.The clue is first found in Psalm 102 and repeated in Hebrews 1:10-12 – a prophecy that was written for a generation to come; to a people that was to be created – most probably the people who Hosea said were not the people of God; but are now called the children of God. The psalmist said that God remains the same in every one of Earth’s Ages; but when one age begins to decay, He just folds it up and changes it (by cleaning it up whether by water or fire; or by changing it into another dimension) and His true children remain in their own dimension!

      Edgar Cayce is said to have had a dream multiple times during his lifetime: in this dream, he would be riding in the same train with men of God he knew had died; and they were traveling to a place where the Apostle John was to speak. He would ask them if they knew who he was and one of them would say: “we know who you are; but you’re not just like us. Remember, you have to go back, but don’t you get too far away!”

      When the First Dominion of Messiah became compromised by Satan’s armies, Don’t you suppose God just removed the Higgs boson particle and it was changed into another dimension of Earth – a dimension that subsists by different laws of nature than ours does now? Couldn’t we just Let God Be God, and change anything into whatever He wants? After all, He created everything with numbers and space – so said Isaac Newton, and Albert Einstein agreed.All God had to do was to just rearrange the formulas! When the Higgs boson particle was removed (around 800 A.D.?), there was a monumental disruption of Earth’s atmosphere and Mystery Babylon’s capitol at that time (Alexandria?) was a mountain burning with fire that was cast into the sea. Jeremiah 51 describes the demise of two Babylons: one in a desert area, and one that’s cast into the sea.
      All that was left to prove the physical existence of the First Dominion of Messiah (that came to the remnant daughter of Jerusalem) were the pyramids that supplied electricity to the citizens of Jesus’ kingdom, and geoglyphs of ancient runways and signs that Isaiah said God would set among the nations. Did not each family of Earth gather at their own sign to wait on the conveyance that would take them speedily to the New Jerusalem yearly in the celebration of the Feast of Tabernacles?

      Whoever thinks I’m crazy, should read up on what happens when a terrarium full of fleas – finally has the top cover removed. Are they able to jump higher than the top – or do they just not believe it’s possible.

    • Guntherian

      BLESS YOU! NOW THATS AN ARTICLE! HAIL HAIL HAIL!

      Mic 4:12 But they do not know the thoughts of יהוה, nor do they understand His counsel. For He has gathered them like sheaves to the threshing-floor.
      Mic 4:13 “Arise and thresh, O daughter of Tsiyon, for I make your horn iron and your hooves bronze. And you shall beat many peoples into pieces, and I shall seclude their gain to יהוה, and their wealth to the Master of all the earth.”

      terrible things this way comes! Book of Enoch chapt 97 , mwhahaaaahahaa, o how the sons of belial shal flee in terror, and how the faces shall be flushed, the slay stacks shall reach the sky,

      • am123

        Thank you Guntherian. God bless you too!

    • lyllyf

      AWESOME TRUTH :D

    • Guntherian

      HAIL HAIL HAIL!
      YAHOM!
      You sing of Protokos Nekros! Daniel 12:1! Luke 21:22!~! THE PUNISHER! the REDEEEMER! El i Yah, “he who is like El”
      the 2 Witnesses are a a married couple btw, MikaEl and GabriEl, a type of hagar and helga the horrible, and i serve them, the 7th stand of damascus is amoung us,i scout here and i build lists of priority prey from the kafirs names that list this page, i serve for many years these you speak of, the male has blond hair and black beard and is described in song of song 5:8 and such, the female, is the Paraclete, or The Comforter. The male is here to punish and conquer, the female to heal and restore, to bring into the open the hidden Truths of Elohim. i also refer you to Esdras 2. Bless you brother, may a TANGIBLE measurable increase in your blessings occur, so that you know my words are true,. may those who hate you, suffer, and may those that help you , be greatly blessed. Ahmein. also, look out fer me crows. CAW! youll hear em, and KNOW we found ya! :D you get sweeeet presents, a sword, and numerous other accessories, dont forget yer Tzitzit , “the safety belt and uniform”

    • I AM

      ~ ”ONE OF TWO SCENARIOS PRESENTS THEMSELVES:

      THE RIGHTEOUS WILL HAVE TO DIE, TO SHOW THEIR TRUE DEVOTION TO GOD THE FATHER,

      OR

      WHEN THE LORD JESUS CHRIST RETURNS, HE GATHERS ALL OF THE RIGHTEOUS SAINTS, FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD, ALONG WITH THE HEAVENLY HOST OF ANGELS, THEN THE BATTLE OF GOOD -VS- EVIL CAN FINALLY COMMENCE, WHEREAS THE DEVIL, & ALL OF ITS’ PARASITIC OFFSPRING, ARE ERADICATED OFF OF THE PLANET ONCE & FOR ALL, NEVER TO RETURN EVER AGAIN…

      THEN & ONLY THEN, CAN THE EARTH RETURN BACK TO THE TIME, SIMILAR TO THAT OF THE GARDEN OF EDEN, WHERE IT WAS LITERALLY PARADISE ON EARTH .!!.

      SLOWLY BUT SURELY, THE EARTH WILL BE REPOPULATED ONCE AGAIN, ONLY THIS TIME IT WILL BE DONE SO, WITHOUT ANY KIND OF DEMONIC / SATANIC INFLUENCES…

      THUS SAYS THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY ~ I AM…

    • torri

      Jesus is of the lineage of Zerubbabel son of Shealtiel.

      The Bible says:
      “And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon.”
      Are you saying Jesus is the angel of the bottomless pit?

      • am123

        I’m saying Jesus is one of the two olive trees standing before the LORD, as described in Zechariah. Jesus is the olive tree represented by Joshua. The olive tree represented by Zerubbabel is Abaddon.

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