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Trump's Decision on JCPOA Triggers Biblical Birth Pangs

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On May 8th, President Trump will make a very important decision that will affect the world according to Biblical prophecy. This is whether to remain in the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) otherwise known as the Iranian Nuclear Deal or to withdraw from this deal that was made in 2015.

When we look at Isaiah 21, it would seem that Iran (Elam and Media) is called to besiege after an event that would be viewed by them as “a betrayal” and from what we see happening with the JCPOA, this would seem to fit right in with that prophecy. Not only that – this event is associated with a woman going into labor – which would also point to a “birthday” and with Israel’s 70th anniversary on the 14th of May, is it possible that Trump’s decision which is scheduled for the 12th of May, could result in these birth pangs to errupt and the New World Order being birthed on the 14th?

Isa 21:2-4  A grievous vision is declared unto me; the treacherous dealer dealeth treacherously, and the spoiler spoileth. Go up, O Elam: besiege, O Media; all the sighing thereof have I made to cease. Therefore are my loins filled with pain: pangs have taken hold upon me, as the pangs of a woman that travaileth: I was bowed down at the hearing of it; I was dismayed at the seeing of it. My heart panted, fearfulness affrighted me: the night of my pleasure hath he turned into fear unto me. 

In addition, the Revelation 12 sign that occurred on September 23rd, may very well have been pointing us to this “birthday” – just as one would expect a road sign before an event displayed to a road user so that they can be prepared when they encounter the event. The Revelation 12 sign describes a woman in travail and this passage from Isaiah 21 would seem to provide more detail in how this all will start.

The Word of God also tells us about the nations gathering together and rushing toward Israel to destroy it and I was wondering what action on Irael’s side would result in such a response:

I am wondering if Israel will not launch a rather devastating preemptive strike against Iran – maybe even in Syria – once Trump has withdrawn from the Iranian nuclear deal… Based on everything that has happened, it may unite the world to act against Israel who is simply trying to protect itself from the surrounding enemy which seem to be increasing on a daily basis and who would be released from their obligations to the nuclear deal – should Trump withdraw.

This could be a scenario that could lead to Damascus being completely destroyed (Isaiah 17), based on Israel’s warning to Assad that they would remove him if he allows Iran to establish a foothold in Syria and given that the world would consider Israel acting on evidence that Israel provided about Iran’s nuclear projects – without vetting this properly. This may be enough reason for the world to condemn Israel’s actions should they launch a preemptive strike against Iran who would be seen by Israel as no longer bound by the nuclear deal and delivering on their promises to Trump. When we consider Iran’s warnings to Trump about their reaction especially (“expected and unexpected”) as reported in some news that would follow Trump’s withdrawal, this would be the logical move by Israel to ensure that Iran does not launch a nuclear attack against them and that would be to strike Iran first.

Will Trump’s decision to withdraw from the JCPOA result in World War 3 breaking out as the Bible would seem to predict – if our understanding is correct? We have little time left before we find out! 

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    • Man

      That cheistian WW3 boner must be so hard!

      • CUB4DK

        …actually Foe Me…It’s just starting to GET HARD! :lol:

        Cheers, Uncle Hexy :lol:

      • CUB4DK

        ..” That cheistian WW3 boner must be so hard “…that’s funny, I’m starting to GET HARD also!!…this must be a
        Case of Synchronicity! :lol:

        Cheers, Uncle Hexy :lol:

        • KrispyK

          A Mysterious Explosion Off Leeward Oahu’s Coast :lol:

          (KHNL) – A scary Sunday for some residents in Leeward Oahu as they witness a mysterious explosion at sea.

          Fire and Coast Guard crews search by land, air and sea, trying to figure out what it was.

          “Something splash with black smoke,” said Jeff Lono, witness.

          “It was a really, really tall splash,” said another witness.

          People who saw the event describe it as a blast about a couple miles away from Ewa Beach.

          “I had no idea. I thought we were getting attacked at first,” said Josh Shin, witness.

          After combing the area for 90 minutes, rescue crews called off the search.

          “We didn’t find any evidence of a crash of any kind or other activity that would’ve indicated an an emergency,” said Capt. Terry Seelig with the Honolulu Fire Dept.

          But numerous witnesses describe the same scene. Lono even used his binoculars to get a closer look.

          “Just a couple of military boats out there,” said Lono.

          “I was thinking the Navy was out there doing something,” said another witness.

          They’re right.

          Navy officials confirm the loud explosion was part of RIM-PAC, which continues this week.

          Officials say the area off Iriquois Point is designated for military training. They also say they obtained the proper permits and notified nearby vessels.

          RIM-PAC continues until July 28. :evil:

          The Navy has not said whether more tests will be conducted in that area.

    • Mica Molecule

      All talk of a miraculous, instantaneous removal (rapture) of believers from the earth before the Day of Judgment is part of a delusion promoted by Christians who have been indoctrinated into a religious fantasy. Christians like James fail to understand the Word of God because they are under the influence of erroneous Roman Catholic doctrines which reject much of what was taught by Yeshua’s original Ambassadors (Apostles in Greek) concerning God’s Kingdom and which trashes or denies the Ancient and Eternal Pledge (so-called but incorrectly translated “Covenant” which God’s established with His Chosen Nation, the real Israel. These Christian teachers and their deluded followers are in for a big and shocking surprise.

      • James

        I will pray for you Mica – that you will discover the truth in time.

        You are right when you say that we who believe that our Heavenly Father will remove those from the earth, who are watching for His return to remove us from the earth before the Tribulation will be in for a huge shocking surprise – it is explained to us in this passage:

        Isa 64:4 For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.

        Jesus specifically instructs us to expect Him early and not later – as in after the Tribulation – in these passages:

        Luk 12:37 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.

        Jesus also addresses those who believe not in the Rapture – those who believe that God requires His Bride to be burned by Him before marriage and for whom He already paid the full price on the cross – removing all condemnation from us, but who insist that God needs us to add to what Jesus did for us on the cross or to prove our worthiness in the Tribulation to Him, in the following passage:

        Luk 12:45-46 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

        Mat 7:21-22 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

        If you believe in your heart that the Lord will not take His Bride out of this world before the Tribulation, then you are as the Israelites who did not believe the Lord about the promised land, and if you continue in unbelief, then you will receive a portion with the unbelievers just as those of Israel, who believed not, were refused entry into the promised land. The earth will not be a fun place to be then and this is what those who discover their error – when it is too late – will say:

        Mat 25:11-12 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

        Mat 7:22-23 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

        Mat 24:51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

        Mat 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

        You have a free choice in what you believe and you have to be logical and clever about this: If I am wrong and I find myself in the Tribulation, then we are both in the same boat and I will have no issue with laying my life down for the Lord should that be the case. However, if I am right and you are wrong, then I am out of here before the Tribulation starts, enjoying my heavenly rest, while you will be on earth knocking on the door and asking the Lord to open it for you having to lay down your life in order to become a Tribulation Saint and to enter heaven. Which position provides logically more benefit and which is the right one to choose?

        Time is running out and by the looks of it, this could very well be our last week to make the right choice about the matter. I hope you will go with the choice that provides most benefit – even if it is just from the perspective of logic.


        • Truthseeker


          can you give us a clear direct statement by Jesus Christ or an apostle stating the reward of the saved is heaven or that any have or will ever go to heaven?

          Just one simple statement like: when we all meet in heaven or the meek shall inherit heaven, is there not one clear statement that does not require twisting ??

          I am sure you have read this statement from our savior:

          13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

          The meek shall inherit the EARTH not heaven and they shall rule with Christ on His Throne here on the earth as kings.

          • James

            Hi Truthseeker,

            It is common for people to ask this, but we also have to consider the timing of certain events – eg. when Jesus said what is written in John 3:13 in relation to what was said and also to what happened after this point.

            When Jesus said this – the Old Covenant was still in place and the sins of the world had not yet been dealt with. After Jesus died on the cross, the New Covenant was established and our sins no longer prevented us from going to heaven if we die in Christ. So what are some of the examples:

            Firstly, what happened when Jesus died?

            The Bible tells us the following:

            1Pe 3:18-22 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

            This passage tells us that Jesus carried the good news to those who were not able to ascend to heaven who died having faith in Jesus in the Old Testament times. These are described in Hebrews 11 and they are called “The Elders”.

            Heb 11:1-2 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. For by it the elders obtained a good report.

            Many of the Elders are named by Paul in Hebrews 11 and we can also through study find some of them who are not named by Paul, such as the thief on the cross next to Jesus as well as Lazarus who was seen in Abraham’s bosom.

            These were the ones in prison whom Jesus spoke to while He was in the grave and at the same time removed the barrier of sin which prevented these people from ascending to heaven before. We then read the following:

            Mat 27:52-53 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

            Who are these that were resurrected with Jesus? They are the Elders that are described to us in Hebrews 11 and they received their glorified bodies with Christ and ascended into heaven with Him as the First Fruits of God’s “Faith Harvest”.

            If we have any doubt whether this is in fact true, John describes the elders to us positioned on 24 thrones in the Most Holy Place of God’s Temple – and note that Isaiah and Ezekiel who was allowed an audience before God in the Old Testament, never saw elders in the throne room of God.

            Rev 4:4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.

            They are described as Kings and Priests before the Lord and are clothed in white raiment, which is to be clothed with the righteousness of Jesus.

            when we study the harvest and temple models we see that there are three parts to each and as such we know that the Elders, with Jesus represent the First Fruits of the harvest which make up the Most Holy Place of the Temple. Next will be the main harvest of the Field – taking place at the start of the Tribulation and representing the Holy Place (where the Menorah (Church) is positioned) and leaving the outer courts which will be the final part of the harvest – also known as the gleanings to come in after the Tribulation as those who will be beheaded for the Word of God and for the Testimony of Jesus.

            In addition to this Paul, who was shown many revelations when he was caught up into heaven on the road to Damascus said the following:

            2Co 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

            1Th_4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

            Both of these passages would indicate that there is now no longer any separation between those who are in Christ that would prevent them from going to heaven when they die or are changed.

            I hope this helps?

            I have a video in which I look at this in more detail if you are interested and you can view it here:



            • Truthseeker


              It does not help!

              First you are reading INTO scripture what you want scripture to say:

              for instance;

              1Th_4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

              At the Last Trump the Saints of God — all of them — rise from their graves plus the few still alive, to meet Christ as He returns to earth bringing with Him the government of God and they all meeting in the air.

              The Air is not the 3rd heaven.

              They meet in the clouds in the air — and the Saints born of God at the Last Trump as Spirit will always be with Christ as kings and lords ruling with Him here on earth.

              There is no way this can be twisted to say Christ returns to the 3rd heaven with the Saints –

              Plus if one were to use other scriptures as one is suppose to do they will find that Christ is coming to earth to rule with a rod of iron with ALL the Saints and on that DAY the Feet of Jesus Christ will not return to heaven but will land on the Mount of Olives.

              3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

              4 —- And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, —–which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

              5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, —— and all the saints with thee.

              At the return to earth of Jesus Christ HIS FEET shall stand on the Mount of Olive and all the Saints that met Him in the clouds will be with Him on that Mount.

              James what do you make of Revelation 20:

              1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

              2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

              3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

              4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; —-and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

              5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

              James the “rest of the dead” do not live again until after the 1000 years thus this is the 2nd resurrection that follows the first which occurred 1000 years earlier?

              James as the saying goes “”this is not my first rodeo”" —

              There are tons of scriptures pointing to 3 resurrections and NOT ONE RAPTURE and Tons more showing the people of God, Israel, will live on this earth.

              The Work God is doing is here on earth and Jesus Christ is returning to restore this destroyed earth into the Garden of Eden.

              God is not resurrecting folks so they can retire but so they can DO THE WORK.

            • James


              I was only addressing your question about no man ascending into heaven, but if you want me to address some of the other points I will gladly do so.

              Firstly, we have to distinguish between the resurrections that are described and what qualities the people will have that belong to each.

              From what I can tell, and as I described above each resurrection consist of three parts, as these are treated as harvests of people. Two of these events are performed by the owner of the field – God does the harvesting, while the third part is left to the poor who are then responsible for the harvesting.

              Paul describes a resurrection event in which there are people that will be raised from the dead while together with people who will be alive and who will be changed in an instant and meeting the Lord in the air.

              1Th 4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

              We see another event described in Revelation where John writes the following:

              Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

              How these people came to their resurrection is described in this passage:

              Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

              This is quite different to what Paul is describing in the fact that this group in Revelation requires all that belong to it to be killed through beheading and they gather under the altar of God – having to wait there for their resurrection and not meeting the Lord in the air as with Paul’s description.

              Paul’s group then describes the main harvest – harvested by God at the Rapture which leaves the final group to be “harvested” by Satan (the poor) during the Tribulation – through beheading. This last group is resurrected at the Second Coming when Jesus returns with those whom He met in the air and took with Him to Heaven before the Tribulation started.

              I agree that the air in not the third heaven, but we have to take all the other passages that relate to this into account as well. the first to consider would be this one:

              Joh 14:2-3 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

              We have to ask a few questions then:

              1. Where did Jesus go to prepare a place for us?
              2. Is the Father’s house? In the air or in the third heaven?
              3. If Jesus is going to take us to the place that He has prepared for us is there any other evidence that this means the Father’s house which should be in the third heaven?

              We have the next passage to consider then:

              Isa 26:20-21 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.

              Here a group called God’s people who are told to enter into their chambers (prepared by Jesus and where we will be taken to once we have met Him in the air) and to shut the doors, while God goes out to punish the inhabitants of the earth. These cannot enter into their chambers after the Tribulation as this would contradict what this passage is saying: They enter their chambers or dwellings before the Tribulation starts and to be hidden from the punishment with which those on the earth will be punished.

              Here are two more confirming passages:

              Zep 2:3 Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD’S anger.

              Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

              All these passages clearly describes the event that Paul is referring to which happens before the Tribulation where none of those who belong to this group were required to undergo beheading.

              The last group are those who were not found asleep at the time when the Rapture occurred and they have to be killed by the poor and then wait for their resurrection event under the altar of God, which is also in the third heaven.

              I hope this helps.

            • Truthseeker

              James we are very far apart.

              I will address only the resurrections as to do otherwise requires a book.

              Three is God’s number showing completion thus there are 3 resurrections.

              The first Resurrection is to eternal life and takes place at the Last Trump and the Last Trump is the Feast of Trumpets on the first of the seventh month.

              in this resurrection which occurs at the return of Jesus Christ, God’s First fruits i.e. the early barley harvest are born into the Family of GOD.

              Christ, when He returned to the Father’s Throne in the 3rd heaven, began to prepare positions of authority i.e. “mansion”, for all the Saints the Father calls to Christ.

              And those positions are as kings, lords and priests in the government of God.

              David will be king over all 12 tribes and the 12 apostles will each rule over one tribe as kings.

              The 2nd resurrection is to physical life and to judgment; see Ezekiel 37.

              the Billions that never had an opportunity for salvation are returned to flesh and blood and are given their one chance for eternal life. What do you think happens to all the billions of little kids that are killed or die of sickness or the pagans etc.?

              They must repent, be baptize and by the laying on of hands receive the gift of the Father’s Spirit just like the first fruits and they must also over come and bring forth the fruit of the Spirit.

              This is the large fall harvest of wheat, there are two harvest at Jerusalem each year.

              This time is foreshadowed by the 7th Holy Feast which is called The Last Great Day.

              The 3rd resurrection is to condemnation.

              All those that refuse to allow Jesus Christ to rule over them, refuse to obey the Law are resurrected to physical life and are judged. No one can be put to death unless there are 2 witnesses that testify to their sins. Why do you think there are two Tables of stone containing the 10 Commandments ?

              those in the 3rd resurrection are condemned to death and are cast into the Lake of Fire and cease to exist for all eternity. They will become ashes under the feet of God’s Saints.

              James there is no rapture– God is not so weak that He can not protect HIS Holy Ones here on earth, and every scripture you use to show a rapture can be used to
              prove no one goes to heaven and the 3 resurrections.

              James I follow Jesus Christ, I rest on the Sabbath, observe the 7 annual Holy Feasts of God and the Law, the Statues and the Judgments and have since 1969.

              So called christianity does not follow Jesus Christ.

            • Daughter of the Church

              “… if we die in Christ”.
              James from your own quote, which is the absolute and most truthful condition to go to heaven, I bring you one more proof of condition to salvation to your lecture. This proof comes from the second and third last words said by Our Lord on the Cross.
              Jesus Christ said: “Amen I say to you, to day you shall be with me in Paradise” to St. Dismas, the good robber. There is no cavil in this promise, because Dismas believed, he repented, he confessed, he preached, he loved, he trusted and prayed, and he was a martyr. Dismas, although a sinner met seven conditions which gained him a divine promise. This is the hard way to go to heaven.

              There is an easier way to go to heaven, and this was given by the next words of Our Lord: “Woman behold your son” and to the disciple: “Behold your mother”. Mary Mother of Jesus Christ, the Blessed Virgin becoming our mother will help us follow her into heaven since she was the first disciple of God and of His Christ, and She is in heaven in body and soul as the nearest creature to God.

      • The Ferrett

        Well said Mica, totally agree – James is one of so many tragically hooked on jewish fables . .

    • Britnay Smithh

      In 2033.

    • Jerry

      James, maybe Mica should be praying for you and your “Truth.” I find Mica correct in his statement and unlike yourself, I have explored religions and philosophies for many years. What you have been indoctrinated with as “Truth” may not be as you think it to be. It is up to you to seek for the answers and not simply be a believer in your indoctrination. Dare to step out of the box and explore. If you do that with an open mind, you might find yourself thinking a whole different way.

    • Deniele

      for those who voted Trump to see what he is doing at the moment.

      • CUB4DK

        ….wouldn’t it be nice to be the fly on the wall :grin:

    • Winston

      So very weary of prognosticators guessing when the Rapture will come when the Bible is crystal clear that “only God knows the day and time, not even the Son knows”. So, given the clear directive, yes there will be signs and signs have been occurring for hundreds of years, so what’s new? We who believe in Jesus are to keep our eyes heavenward and BE READY. So, if you aren’t ready, then will you ever be?

    • Firmament Does Exist

      “rapture” is not a word that is contained in scripture. “Jesus” never existed as His Hebrew name was Yahushua. Don’t trust any “techer” who doesn’t know His name and quotes from Jesuit translations that removed all the Hebrew, he hasn’t got a clue teaching from a Hellenistic perspective…

    • rmstock

      Haspel confirmation vote set for Wednesday
      BY KATIE BO WILLIAMS – 05/14/18 12:57 PM EDT
      “The Senate Intelligence Committee will vote Wednesday on Gina Haspel’s
      nomination to lead the CIA, a committee aide said Monday.

      The vote will take place in closed session prior to a scheduled
      classified hearing on the intelligence community’s 2017 assessment that
      Russia attempted to interfere in the U.S. election.

      Haspel appears poised to pass out of committee with a favorable
      recommendation, teeing up a full Senate vote likely next week.
      [ ... ]“

    • CUB4DK

      You Know at this point…I’m feeling Really GOOOD!!
      SCREW that Uncle Hexy SHIT…from now on i’ll be Dr. Sexy Rexy!! :grin:

      Cheers, Dr. Sexy Rexy :lol:

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