Rick Warren's Chrislam Becomes One Of The Fastest Growing Religions In America (VIDEOS)
Chrislam is the merging of apostate christianity and the ideology of Islam, and it is truly a pit of serpents and devils. One of the main founders of Chrislam and one of it’s main drivers is Rick Warren from Saddleback Church in Southern California. Warren at the same time passionately denies his connection with Chrislam while at the same time promoting it through his many ministries and outlets.
To understand where it all started, journey back with us to 2009 where Rick Warren addressed a the annual meeting of the Islamic Society of North America. He opened by telling the audience how much he had in common with Muslims and the ideology of Islam. He preached a pro-globalization message of uniting together at any cost by laying down our differences.
Where Chrislam Was Born: Rick Warren at the ISNA 2009 Conference from Now The End Begins on Vimeo.
He quoted no scripture from the bible, and only mentioned the Name of Jesus Christ once in passing. But what he did repeat over and over was how Muslims and Christians needed to “band together” and start work right away on “interfaith projects”. Warren poured out his interfaith slop, and the Muslims ate it up.
Why does John Hagee’s son use the Muslim crescent moon and christian cross in his logo? That’s Chrislam!
By the time he was done speaking, Chrislam was born. But Warren was only just getting started. The Yale Covenant was right around the corner.
A Common Word Between Us and You
Around this same time, Rick Warren was instrumental in the creation and signing of the Yale Covenant Between Islam and Christianity. This is the preamble to that covenant:
As members of the worldwide Christian community, we were deeply encouraged and challenged by the recent historic open letter signed by 138 leading Muslim scholars, clerics, and intellectuals from around the world. “A Common Word Between Us and You” identifies some core common ground between Christianity and Islam which lies at the heart of our respective faiths as well as at the heart of the most ancient Abrahamic faith, Judaism. Jesus Christ’s call to love God and neighbor was rooted in the divine revelation to the people of Israel embodied in the Torah (Deuteronomy 6:5; Leviticus 19:18). We receive the open letter as a Muslim hand of conviviality and cooperation extended to Christians worldwide. In this response we extend our own Christian hand in return, so that together with all other human beings we may live in peace and justice as we seek to love God and our neighbors.
Muslims and Christians have not always shaken hands in friendship; their relations have sometimes been tense, even characterized by outright hostility. Since Jesus Christ says, “First take the log out your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor’s eye” (Matthew 7:5), we want to begin by acknowledging that in the past (e.g. in the Crusades) and in the present (e.g. in excesses of the “war on terror”) many Christians have been guilty of sinning against our Muslim neighbors. Before we “shake your hand” in responding to your letter, we ask forgiveness of the All-Merciful One and of the Muslim community around the world. Yale Covenant
You will note that the Yale Covenant preamble ends with this esteemed board of Laodicean apostates asking for “forgiviness from the All-Merciful One, Allah”. They have placed the Muslim moon god on the same playing field as the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob from the bible. This Covenant was signed by hundreds of religious leaders from all across America.
So though Rick Warren issues a constant stream of denials about his role in Chrislam, everywhere you look there he is. All the evidence always leads back to him. And he has recruited many others to join him.
Today in 2013, Chrislam is rising rapidly. John Hagee’s son Matthew has a ministry that uses the crescent moon of Islam and the christian cross as a logo.
Glenn Beck went to Israel and made a video promoting a universal religion with Christianity and Islam as its core. Note how he equates the God of the bible as the same as the moon god of Islam, this is the essence of what Chrislam is all about.
Beck’s universalist message is in perfect harmony with Rick Warren’s global interfaith vision of Chrislam. We are seeing more and more pastors getting in line behind Warren’s demonic vision.
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14Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? 15Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever?…2 Corinthians 6:14
If it’s true this “Chrislam” is rapidly growing, it’s proof the true Christian church is very small. There is no nexus between Christianity and Islam.
The Bible is clear it’s Jesus Christ and the gospel or nothing, that there is no other way a man can be saved but by repentance from being a sinner and acceptance of His blood for the remission of sins, making Jesus Christ the Lord over our lives, faith in Him as very God and our Master, in obedience to His whole word, and not all the Johnny-one-verse theology of partial truth and deception. There’s no such thing as serving two masters. Muhammad saves nobody, as a matter of fact, Islam denying Jesus Christ’s deity, antichrist by the Lord’s definition through John.
You believe some of these mega-church religious hucksters at your own peril. Anybody claiming Christ who doesn’t know this is a deluded fraud, anybody in disobedience to the simplest gospel a child could understand, and, yes, having fellowship with darkness, such a person has no spiritual eyes. Error and deception is never the leading of the Holy Spirit, and this is the sort of behavior one can expect from the spiritually dead and their dead “churches.”
2 Peter 2
1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time… 22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
“If it’s true this “Chrislam” is rapidly growing, it’s proof the true Christian church is very small. There is no nexus between Christianity and Islam. ”
They are self-defining gentiles who think that Jesus will return to defeat the anti-christ at the apocalypsse to judge people.
The only real difference between the christian self defining gentile and the islamic self defining gentile is that the muslim is not tresspassing against the zionist christians holy Jews as other ‘flase’ (to them) christians are. Chrislam IS an inevitable logical consequence of the fundie christianity destroying and hating ethniic christianity and this mentality continuing and intensifying amongst their fundie atheist childrens self identifying gentilism (non-jewishness) as the only important identity above all ethnicity and hinderences to a one world of a mass of humanity on the one side and the jews on the other (some pretend to love some pretend to hate but it is the structure that is common to all and to islam – no christian fundie wants to convert jews into the mass of humanity and neither does any muslim. The mass of humanity to them is just Chrislam arguing with each other under the Jew.
In fact though the fastest growing religion in the States is paganism / witchcraft (specifically wicca). It is doubling its numbers every year and has been for the last 20 years.
The American Religious Identification Survey gives Wicca an average annual growth of 143% for the period 1990 to 2001 (from 8,000 to 134,000 – U.S. data / similar for Canada & Australia). According to The Statesman Anne Elizabeth Wynn claims “The two most recent American Religious Identification Surveys declare Wicca, one form of paganism, as the fastest growing spiritual identification in America“.
Ya know, Freemasons.
Masons originated by and serve jews.
“Freemasonry is a Jewish establishment, whose history, grades, official appointments, passwords and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end. ” – Rabbi Isaac Wis
jew world order. There are no religions growing ‘fast’ today, fast-er being a relative term. Some are waking and leaving the religious schemes but most are still stuck. This bunk psy ops story is to keep christian dopes clinging to their jew fable bibles so they can still be controlled from doing anything.
Rick Warren only embraces the part of Islam that preaches intolerance towards heretics. Islamic policy toward women, children, homosexuals, and agnostics is what appeals to Pastor Warren. His trips to Africa to help shape political opinion against human rights is proof that he embraces hate and is courting Islam in hopes to have all women wearing black body veils throughout
America. and all homosexuals incarcerated and tortured to death.
Hmmm … John “Mr. Israel” Hagee has a son who’s busy syncretizing Christianity and Islam.
Curiouser and curiouser. Apostasy now changing spots in neon technicolor.
oood video about islam vs Christianity
Check out the viral article at BIN.
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they’re clsoing down Islam in MIchigan it’s good news.
Christian greeting’s everyone in these last days of Earth’s history. Are you concerned with the growing number of politicians and governing officials, as well as church leaders that are getting a bit too chummy with the nation of Islam? Is it becoming more and more obvious that the desires of the Muslim are being preferred by the powers that be no matter what faith they claim to embrace?
A couple or so years back I noticed something a bit strange going on in this area. In fact, it was so strange that I decided to keep track as best I could. I wasn’t looking by the way for any confirmation, or documented info on it at this time. Only an inkling as to what I perceived. I just wanted to see if my discernment was accurate on this. After a year or so of watching the news, especially in areas regarding the Pope, and Islam, I noticed in my last count that John Paul II had eleven meetings with Palestinian leader Yassir Arafat regarding Middle eastern peace, and NONE with the Jewish leader Ariel Sharon during their ongoing unrest. It was then I decided to start keeping track of any and all articles that connected the two together. All the while I am researching this, the thought kept crossing my mind that Roman Catholicism sports 1.2 billion people that claim the Pope their leader, and Islam has just as many claiming Arafat theirs. One would think a joining of the minds here would be VERY advantages in the Pope’s global aspirations, as well as his boss Antichrist. Especially if he starts to show desires of the land we call Jerusalem as Daniel 11:45 says he most assuredly will.
This also became more plausible in my mind after researching how the Islamic faith came to be, and Rome’s obvious involvement in it. History show that the Vatican arranged the marriage of Mohammed and his wife who was a catholic, and the Catholic bishops help Mohammed write the Koran and gain his power. This was done by Papal Rome all in an effort to cause the Muslims to hate the Jews, as well as all Christians who were not catholic. Two birds with one stone if you will. Get rid of the Christians so that Rome could stand as the supreme moral authority, and rid the Jews of their land so that Rome can set her temples upon the holy land in triumph. Of course history proves it backfired for the Pope, which in turn caused him to growl across Europe in the crusades that saw countless deaths for centuries. However lately, it seems Jerusalem is finally within the grasp of Rome once again!
Also keep in mind I have not put all ministerial duties on hold and immersed myself in researching this project. I wanted it to be that way so that I can see just how subtle this movement was going to creep upon us all. The media has been ever so gently programming the people of the World that the Islamic religion is good and we should all embrace them as friends that are just as wholesome as our Christian brothers and sisters. Not to mention the fact that all Muslims embrace the Koran (or Quran) as a holy book. A book literally drenched with words declaring the Christians worthy of death and damnation. Is it any wonder I ask, that Rome, a KNOWN Christian persecutor and killer would join forces with the nation of Islam?
Think about this reality for a moment… During the persecutions of the Vatican where we see over 150 million Christians tortured and killed, we also see Rome having most of these murders performed by officials “outside” the Vatican itself so as to play the innocent card. It wasn’t until the “Mea Culpa” of John Paul II on March 12, 2000 that the Vatican actually admitted they did this. Seeing how we now have graphic proof that Islam sees no wrong in “killing the infidel” as their Koran states is the fate of all Christians. Was the Pope making nice with Arafat so as to assure he has a ready supply of henchmen hell bent on killing Christians or Jews for Allah? Fact is, this has always been the way of Rome. They kill in the background, and denounce the murders in the foreground. In fact, Rome actually invented what Politicians refer to today as “spin-doctoring.” Looking at what’s happening today in the Homosexual agenda should point that out nicely. Everyone knows that the Catholic priesthood is mostly Gay in orientation, and we all know for a fact they molest little boys, and we all know for a fact they hate the Bible. Yet when laws are passed in Canada, or the USA, helping the Gay agenda move forward as well as ban the Bibles, we see Rome acting as if they are totally against it. This two-faced, or wolf is sheep’s clothing theology works well. But it only works well on “sheeple.” Honest Christians are not the least bit hoodwinked by this! Especially Christians that have understanding of prophecy.
More concerned about the Christians chummy with Israel, the synagogue of Satan. The Jews don’t even recognize Jesus. At least Islam recognized Jesus as a prophet. I’ve found none of them to be the right path for me. I find organized religion exclusive and controlling, and seeking bigger buildings and fancier robes instead of truth.
… and more people everyday, including believers, are learning that their Church and their Religion is not at all about knowing that all glory belongs to YHWH Elohim. Creator.
Islam is a control mechanism for sheople like every other one. Islam is jew in orign same as christianity, to control sheople. The jews and paid trolls like 3am are doing every angle to keep sheople heading to organized religion, in your case islam. You’re a troll, seen it in other comments, you mix in truth here on christians/jew but then push islam by claiming you’re islamic, trying to lead people to that brand of scam like warren and his hybrid scheming. Following organized religion is a conjob to control sheople. Don’t need to religion for community or god. The votes on your pro religion pro islam angle are probably from other paid trolls. “Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet.” – Napoleon
So glad there are some who see into the truth of what is now going on!!!
Rick Warren’s book “Purpose driven church” was circulated in a big way amongst Dutch Reformed churches here in South Africa… Warren is a 32 degree mason and thus under the Jesuits who in turn is the roman catholic military arm of the church.
Wonder if anybody saw that picture of pope JP2 kissing the Quran… Doesn’t really matter much because he also received the mark of Shiva (Hindu thingy) on his forehead. WAS THIS POPE EVEN CATHOLIC?.. I wonder…
On the other hand… Catholicism is esoteric Mithraism (Medo-Persian sunworship system) which in essence is luciferianism and Mary (statues of) is an acronym for satan…
Why do I say this you may ask?.. I say this purely because of the fact that the catholic church says that Mary was immaculate. In catholic terms this (“immaculate conception”) has got nothing to do with Jesus having being born of a virgin, but rather that she herself was without sin and that Jesus was what He is because of her sinlessness. IF GOD COULD HAVE CREATED HER SINLESS, COULDN’T HE HAVE DONE SO FOR ME OR YOU ALSO?.. Where then does this put Jesus?.. DID HE DIE FOR NOTHING?.. and why does the catholic church usually portray Jesus as being nailed to a cross or as a baby on his mother’s lap?.. HELPLESS!
Rom3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SAYS: NO!!!
The devil HATES Jesus… and what he/she/it thought was his greatest victory (the crucifiction of Jesus Christ) turned out to be his greatest defeat.
The first Messianic prophecy in the Bible states… Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it (the Righteous seed of Eve) shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. THE CATHOLIC BIBLE STATES THIS it TO BE MARY…
The devil received his deadly head-wound on Calvary and Jesus regained dominion of the earth after the serpent caused the fall of man in Eden and stole it…
This is why the Bible states in…
Luke 4:5-8 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
AFTER THE 1000 YEARS, THE DEVIL WILL RECEIVE ITS DEATHBLOW!
“Wonder if anybody saw that picture of pope JP2 kissing the Quran”
Didn’t know that, but no surprise. What would you expect of people who defiantly call the Pope and priests Father, in direct disobedience to a command of Jesus Christ,
Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
This is such a plain and simple verse, no room for ambiguity. What of bowing to a man, a Pope, and kissing his ring, just as unambiguously an act of worship accorded a man?
It gets worse. They call the Pope “Holy Father,” a title of God Jesus Christ prayed to as the Son of God on earth, a title of the Father in heaven. It is out and out blasphemy for a sinful man to usurp this title. By the way, you’d be tortured/murdered by this so-called church for saying this in other times, would be murdered for being caught with scripture in your own language, the gospel our Lord Jesus and the apostles plainly and freely preached to all.
“Christian” murderers? No such thing in my Bible,
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Look on YTube for a documentary called 666-The cult of saturn.
3 am do you have a website?
No I don’t.
Rick Warren, member of the CFR, ’nuff said.
“..One Of The Fastest Growing Religions..”
ROFLIMAFO. There are lies, damn lies, and then there’s statistics. Anyone can invent a religion and claim the same. Year 1 you have 1 member, yourself = 100% increase. Year 2, your girlfriend joins, = 100% increase. Year 3, your parents join = 200% increase… Wow you have the fastest growing religion of all time.
Saddleback church is a little more than a family affair I’m afraid.
Saddleback is practically a denomination.
The fastest growing religion is GREED … …
With so much greed out there, how could we possibly consider Chrislam … the fastest …
You know all it will do is create more division and hate. Religions are perfectly designed to start wars.
and so is science….even atheism is getting confrontation of those who have beliefs in higher powers….
It has NOTHING to do with a religion….and EVERYTHING to do with human nature, greed and power, pure and simple….
Yes. Religions are man’s efforts to provide meaning and approval. They sprung up in various, isolated locales. Empires found religion useful in unifying a consensus.
Today’s religious efforts are a reflection of the trend toward globalism. This trend is a huge but slow motion for the past twenty years. Right after 9/11 there was a lot of chatter about unifying religions in order to avoid Armageddon.
Syncretism is the combination of different forms of belief or practice. Entities such as B’nai B’rith seek to syncretize various beliefs by trying to unify and harmonize them even at the expense of logic or critical examination. It was a compromise with the existing forms of religion that were already in Eretz Yisrael in ancient and in modern times. All roads lead to *God* is the main idea there.
It was also political maneuver used by Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar to keep the conquered from rebelling by acquiescing to their religion. He was then able to gather all political leaders into one Consciousness to serve his global ambitions.
The Roman Catholic church has done the same kind of accommodation with Druidism, Dia del Muerte, etc.
This is obviously the Evanjellycal contribution to syncretic, global religious unification.
The Faith, however small, survives through all attempts to dilute, discredit and crush it. ~*~
Originally religions were mild earth worship, then myth entities. Zoroasterism had some merit ordering society in terms of self responsibility and accounting for it. That was changed by the jew tribe who hijacked parts of zoroaster to gin up christianity and turn adults into sniveling adolescent followers, and turn self responsibility into communism to benefit the jew, ‘sell everything and give it to communist leeches that’s what jezus wood doo’ – while the jew does usury on you. Proven by jewMerica and the church cons wanting us to pay for leeches as they swarm hoards of immigrants telling us we’re ‘rich’ even as we are schemed by jew usury banking and government scums passing killing ‘laws’ against us. Empires used religions as justifcation to kill and force obedience. Only rarely has religion been useful to protect individual freedom, more often it has proven to be a tool of enslavement, willfully accepted by idiots. A big proof is christian and other religious dopes are one reason we’re in this position now. Sheople ignoring reality and blubbering over jew fables, or just ignoring reality period. Organized religion are lackeys for the jew world order. “Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet.” – Napoleon
You can bet conjob warren and netenyahu are buds. Those -small faith- evangelists better grow up. They and everyone ignorant are just as much to blame as the jews and lackeys trying to force their jew world order.
“My opinion of Christian Zionists? They’re scum, but don’t tell them that. We need all the useful idiots we can get right now.” – Benjamin Netanyahu
Total piffle. Every religion has been invented by Pharaohs, Emperors, Kings and rulers, even Buddhism was invented by a prince ffs.
Ya’ll need to brush up on your religious history by reading real history. Tiberius Caesar wanted to add Christ to the Roman avenue of the gods based on the report of Pontius Pilate. The Senate refused him. He retorted by saying, “It would be dangerous for anyone to accuse a Christian.” This was recorded by Tertullius in Apology as well as Eusibius in Chronicles and is a testament to Caesar’s understanding of Christ’s significance.
Christianity flourished on it’s own without the help of Tiberius to canonize Christ among the *gods.*
Many people decide they know the facts without investigation, based on the analysis and hearsay of others. The question Christ asked was,” Who do you say I am?” How you answer that as an independent individual will color your worldview. Warren and Hagee have answered differently than a follower of Christ would answer, i.e., that Christ is sufficient.
The question “What would Jesus do?” is moot. The question “Who do you say I am?” determines the efficacy of The Faith.
Christ asked, “When the Son of Man returns, will he find The Faith?” The Faith is based on Who Christ is — The Son of God come in the flesh [which accomplished salvation]. 1 John 4
All the rest is turbid obfuscating syncretism.
W. Willow said:
“…turbid obfuscating syncretism.”
Smells like mingled seed.
Mr. Free American . . . I understand your sentiments about religion completely.
The distinction between Judaism and Christianity is that Judaism attempts to tame God and make Him man’s slave by which they also justify making their fellow man their slave while giving license to all the baser instincts of mankind — especially their own. In essence, it is the deification of man and one tribe in particular.
What escapes their notice is that, if God is the Creator of the Universe, then He is not a tame God!
One cannot slog through The Controversy of Zion (Reed) without understanding the content of the issue in this way. The rabbis took revelation and turned it into something for their own use. The Talmud is a bastardization and bowdlerized form of the Torah. This commentary upon commentary in the “tradition of men” makes void the Word of God by preying on the gullibility and corruptiblity of people through “judaizing” with a variety of mystical secret avenues. Judification is as absurd on it’s face as Hagee&Son are totally capable of displaying their true colors. They deny Christ for the sake of *Israel* and it’s backdoor, Islam.
The only way to understand the distinctiveness of Christianity is to fully read the New Testament and decide for one’s self. The Law of Liberty is an amazing concept to wrap one’s mind around. “Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty.” If there is no liberty, then that is not the Lord.
The Faith is distinct and incompatible with Judaism and Islam. It’s *form* is used in pretense by Warren&Co. Everyone is fully responsible to scrutinize and discern truth for themselves. Just be sure not to sell yourself short by settling for anything less.
Powerful post Willow.
“The only way to understand the distinctiveness of Christianity is to fully read the New Testament and decide for one’s self.”
“Everyone is fully responsible to scrutinize and discern truth for themselves.”
…are two of the most crucial truths to comprehend in these dark days.
And I had to look up ‘bowdlerized.’ It’s been a while since a BIN commenter left BEEF reaching for his dictionary.
Couldn’t wait for a good time to use *bowdlerize*. Flows, dudn’t it?
saim hear. Ta muchly, W.Willow u rock.
Anyone prole whose existence is not that of the state and the individual and only the state and the individual can always be demonized by those that actually feed off of war: ethnic cleansers and their globalists politicians like you Pix.
I’m for anarchy, a leaderless society, not a globalist politician. Because as soon as you make someone a figurehead, you’ve turned yourself into a subject of another. I’m a secular humanist, people should be the sovereigns they are and stand on their own two feet, not as subjects, the property of others.
You are the one doing all the demonising and making it personal.
You could also show respect and make a little more sense when insulting folk, Mirabolin.
Ezekiel 13:9-11 “And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord God.
Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it with untempered morter:
Say unto them which daub it with untempered morter, that it shall fall: there shall be an overflowing shower; and ye, O great hailstones, shall fall; and a stormy wind shall rend it.”
As Christians, or followers of Christ, we look to Jesus as our ONLY example of behavior. We can love muslims, buddists and folks of all faiths by listening, respecting and “BEING A GOOD EXAMPLE OF JESUS LOVE & PATIENCE”… not by surrendering / compromising our beliefs piece by piece.
When Jesus naturally becomes a warm, living, vibrant and natural part of your daily walking, talking, singing and laughing… just like any friend, He stops being a easily dismissed idea, concept or idea. Contrary to bad religions and church doctrine… you can talk about your deepest fears, filthiest sins and cruelest shames knowing you are in his “SAFE ZONE” of grace, forgiveness and healing.
The church teaches you must be perfect to go to HEAVEN… that is a lie straight from Hell. None of us are perfect. We all get deceived. We all screw up. And in spite of all yours and my stupidity, failures and shortcomings… Jesus really LIKES you!!! Yeah, no lightning bolts… just somebody who is here on a RESCUE MISSION to save those who want saving from eternal suffering. Once we take our resuers hands… Jesus… HE (not us) PERFECTS US… CLEANS US… RECYCLES US… ERASES OUR HISTORY (Past, Present & Future)… and REBOOTS our lives so God sees NOTHING BUT PERFECTION when we die & enter his home.
There is no room for other gods… GOD IS VERY JEALOUS… there is no room for hate, unforgiveness or the mistreatment of others. We are ALL made in GOD THE CREATOR’s Image and are part of his family until we REJECT JESUS… our own spiritual brother… and try telling God how we’ll save ourselves and STILL move into his house… but on our own terms… GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.
Another power/money hungry charlatan abusing religion for his own profit.
As a 5-point fundamentalist listening to all the inflamatory comments about Pastor Warren, I was surprised to find that I agree with most of what he said in the video:
1. I am supposed to actively love my neighbor, including Muslims and others with whom I disagree.
2. People can and should disagree without being disagreeable.
3. People can and should learn to live and work together in spite of their differences (But see below).
4. We can respect others and treat them with dignity, without compromising our beliefs (Pastor Warren seems firm on not compromising doctrine as some accuse him of doing).
5. These principles are more and more important as globalization unavoidably brings us closer and closer. We MUST learn to live together in peace and harmony.
6. Christians should not only be committed to the Good News of Jesus, but also to the common good.
7. We are commanded to love and respect everybody — everybody.
8. We may disagree over beliefs, but we are commanded to treat others with dignity & respect.
9. We need to do away with stereotyping which has been wrongly used against both Muslims and Evangelicals.
10. In an increasingly rude and disrespectful world, we need to work to restore civility and a “civil public square” where people of all faiths can freely debate, discuss and even disagree without demeaning or debasing one aonother — where we learn to persuade others rather than coerce them.
11. Just because we disagree with a man does not give us the right to demonize him.
12. We should NOT endorse a civil religion where everyone compromises his beliefs.
13. The only ones who benefit from rejecting civility are the extremists who garner support through smear & fear tactics.
14. We should be diligent to protect freedom of religion and freedom of speech or they will certainly be forfeited.
15. The world’s most pressing problems will never be solved by governments and secular agencies; solutions must involve people of faith.
I disagree with Pastor Warren in that:
1. I believe he goes too far regarding what kinds of projects people of different faiths can/should work on together. He thinks it’s OK for churches to provide resources for Muslim clerics to give medical aid in their village. I disagree. I want my money to go to aid projects that glorify Jesus, not ones that make Islam look good. I can work with a Muslim on a municipal neighorhood playground project, but not a playground in the backyard of the local mosque. Nor would I expect him to help pay for one in the backyd of the church.
2. Pastor Warren wants to establish a Coalition to eliminate stereotyping which has negatively portrayed both Muslims and Christians. I agree that that’s a problem. But I’d rather solve it by encouraging Christians to obey the 2 Greatest Commandments, rather than form a coalition.
3. Pastor Warren believes people can “walk hand in hand without seeing eye to eye” (cooperate with compromising beliefs). Yes we can, but there are limits (above).
1. Pastor Warren seems to hold to historic Christian faith.
2. He is deeply troubled by hurt and hatred in an ever-shrinking world.
3. He is seeking solutions to many of the problems plaguing us all.
4. He is wisely calling us to reclaim many principles found in Scripture, especially the second greatest commandment.
5. He is unwisely calling us to cooperative mission work with people of other faiths in order to solve problems that seem otherwise unslovable.
6. He deserves our love, respect, prayer and gracious counsel, not the demonization and malicious slander he has received from many claiming to follow Jesus.
Christianity and Islam BOTH came from Judaism….
Christianity followed Abraham’s son Issac, Islam Abraham’s son Ishmael…..
Judaism is the thrice-cursed satanic religion of the rabbis, who place themselves above God, and attempt to replace the divine revelation given to Moses with something they call the Oral Torah.
These are the vile offscourings of the earth who had the Son of God nailed to a tree, and then tried to blame the Romans for it.
How dare you say that this foetid filth sprang from Abraham, the father of the faithful.
God rebuke thee.
And it is this debased Semitic (racist) / Anti-semitic (anti-racist) identity that is the basis of chrislam.
The anti-racism that fuels chrislamists like the atheist pix and his hatred of prole humanity not conforming to the state (the closed of racial elite) and the individuals (the anti-racists of the proselytizers for love)
“The anti-racism that fuels chrislamists like the atheist pix and his hatred of prole humanity not conforming to the state (the closed of racial elite) and the individuals (the anti-racists of the proselytizers for love)”
= senseless vitriolic SPAM. Put your teeth and claws away. There is no such thing as “prole humanity”. If you think there is, then I hope you get well soon.
Another major trend in religion is a movement called “The New Message from God” which claims to have a New Messenger named Marshall Vian Summers, who comes in the lineage of Jesus and Muhammad.
Read about it here:
The God of the Bible is not the God of the Koran. The Koran urges Allah to destroy or curse Christians because they say Jesus is the Son of God (see Koran 9:30). The Koran also says the idea that God has a Son is an abomination (see Koran 19:88-89). And the Koran denies the resurrection of Jesus Christ (see Koran 4:157). So without Jesus as the Son of God, without the resurrection, there is no Gospel message of Christianity. And this is what the Bible says about erroneous Gospels like those preached to Mohammed by an angel posing as an angel of light:
“But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!”
So where does that put Mohammed?
Putting it into context might help….
Koran 9:30: They have taken as lords beside Allah their rabbis and their monks and the Messiah son of Mary, when they were bidden to worship only One God.
This references the first commandment
Koran 19:(90-91) That ye ascribe unto the Beneficent a son, (91) When it is not meet for (the Majesty of) the Beneficent that He should choose a son. (92) There is none in the heavens and the earth but cometh unto the Beneficent as a slave. (93)
They believe that God does not need a partner.
Koran 4: (157:158) And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah’s messenger – they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain. (157) But Allah took him up unto Himself. Allah was ever Mighty, Wise. (158)
“they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them…” is certainly not denying the resurrection.
Try again. The Koran 9:30 says this:
[9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!
The Koran came from the pits of hell.
To read the Koran is to learn that it is utterly, completely, and irrevocably at enmity with the written Word of Scripture.
The Koran DENIES the core fundamental Message of Scripture.
The Koran DENIES the saving blood sacrifice of the only Born Son of the Most High.
The Koran has no part in the Message of Scripture.
And it never will.
Scotty is putting out misinformation, trying to deceive people. Read the Koran for yourself:
Here is where the Koran says the idea that God has a son is an abomination:
[19.88] And they say: The Beneficent God has taken (to Himself) a son.
[19.89] Certainly you have made an abominable assertion
Here is where the Koran denies the resurrection:
[4.157] And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the apostle of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.
The Koran totally contradicts the Bible and people like Scotty are apologists for Islam and allies of Islamic terrorists.
christianity and islam have FARRR more similiar beliefs than judaism and christianity. anybody that disagrees is clearly ignorant.
I guess that makes me ignorant in your eyes. The OT and NT compliment each other. In fact Jesus taught from (what we would call the OT) Scriptures, and quoted specific verses or preached sermons that derived from their wisdom often. The Sermon on the Mount verses are basically the Ten Commandments restated in a more forceful way. There is no conflict between the two.
The Koran contradicts itself in many areas. So much so, that the rule of abrogation (later verses supercede earlier verses, if they conflict) is used by Mullahs to disregard many of the verses Western readers use as examples of Islam being a “religion of peace”. The Koran is so convoluted, in fact, that many Mullahs don’t recommend that the average Muslim read it for fear of being confused by it all.
Beside being the Son of God, Jesus was a great teacher/man of peace who came to save the world from sin. Mohammad was a teacher/warrior who advocated deception and the killing of those who would not convert to further the goals of his invented faith. You can bring up many of the terrible things that were done by self-identified Christians in the name of Christianity (Crusades, Inquisition, etc.), but they were not done in the spirit of Christianity.
Christianity is a chosen faith. You must freely accept the free gift of salvation. Islam is a compulsory faith, and you must take an oath of allegiance.
They couldn’t be more different.
Bull. Sheople have been killed throughout time for refusing your jew christian psy ops fables to enslave people, while the jew follows their talmud allowing them to kill, lie to and steal from non jews.
The “New Testament” is based on the counterfeiter Paul who contradicts the Word of God and negates the Torah. It forms the foundation of Christianity and thus leads billions of souls to destruction.
Mayhem bows slightly and knuckles forelock at Forthwithtx. Truth brother.
Thanks for standing for the truth Forthwithtx. Ashley robinson is the ignorant one. Christianity and Judaism came from heaven and Islam came from hell—they couldn’t be farther apart.
Looks like the zealots finally figured out what to call their new killing machine.
” identifies some core common ground between Christianity and Islam which lies at the heart of our respective faiths as well as at the heart of the most ancient Abrahamic faith, Judaism.” Like I said, the jews ginned up christianity and muslims to dope sheople and when it suits them, pit against each other. Then when it suits them they use it the other way, scum shills like warren is he doing a come together act to stop chemtrails? No. To stop the jews? NO -see he’s praising the jew. To send back immigrant leeches and illegals because it’s an attack against Americans? No. Tell the truth that jews did 911 not muslims? No. This is what tax free church lying scum psy ops do, he isn’t bringing people together to tell the truth he’s doing it to keep American sheople accepting immigration and to keep sheople under the boot of the jew. And you pay the taxes for that scum because he doesn’t. http://www.enslavementofmankind.com/enslavementofmankind_christianity.htm
THESE ARE THE PAPACY’S TRUE COLORS…
A few hundred years after jews ginned up christianity another jew ginned up the vatican scheme to get in on the action. Pope wears a yamulke.
You can read your bible and talk to God anytime. You don’t have to sit in one of these houses of Satan and listen to heretics like this.
Go to those houses of Satan you twit. The state and the individual alone is not a life.
12,000 people that have not given complete attention. This site has pushed several stories. One said “muslim is the fastest growing religion in the U.S.” . The following one said “Atheist church the fastest growing church in the U.S.”. I can not remember the third one and then there is this one.
Posted under different identities. Decide for yourself if it is the same person. What is funny is that the jews keep feeding and you citizen, keep eating
BIBLE 101 and QURAN 101:
The Bible commands believers to love God and to love others:
“And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.”
—Mark 12:30 and Deuteronomy 6:5
“You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
—Mark 12:31 and Leviticus 19:18
The Quran on the other hand, contains no such noble verses about loving others. Here are some commands by Mohammad to Muslims:
9.5 – So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
48:25 – Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. –
48:29 – Muhammad is Allah’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. –
And no doubt the captors of Daniel Pearl had the following 2 verses in mind when they performed their demonic deed:
47:4- “Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers, strike off their heads.”
8:12- “I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off.”
So to summarize, in both the Old and New Testaments of the Bible, the command for believers is to love God and love others. The Quran on the other hand does not command Muslims to love others. It in fact commands Muslims to kill infidels (non-Muslims). The Bible commands believers to love others, the Quran commands believers to kill others. See the difference
One book is from heaven, and the other book is from hell .
And he said unto them, Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.
1 Samuel 15:2-3
Thus saith the Lord of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt. Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
Scotty is trying to beam up some more disinfo. He quoted verses from the Old Testament showing explicit instructions from the LORD to the Israelites to kill specific people for things they did. It is not a command to kill any and all non-believers, like the instructions the Quran telling Muslims to kill non-Muslims.
Are you a Muslim Scotty, looking to kill infidels? Or are you just a liberal who supports Islam because the enemy of your enemy is your friend?
Keep sighing away, Scotty, we have seen this argument presented before and it failed to succeed faced with critical scrutiny ie am123 tells you Truth, listen up.
Let the sifting begin.
Down with the moon spirits and their agency – false impersonators – corruptors of the memories of the heroes of old
cancerous beings – criminal killers of the universe – piratical bandits
What will they do when it’s no longer possible to keep everyone in the dark about matter still existing in ‘higher orders’ or ‘dimensions of domain of energy levels.’
No mystery–it’s in the numbers.
Can’t hide it much longer!
Give yourselves up!
The end is here!
Please Understand who your ENEMY is here. Lets take words from the BIBLE to prove all you guys have said wrong. LOVE the SINNER hate the SIN.
FUnny how islam is still on the rise. MALACHI warned about the last pope and he will lead the CHristians to DOOM .
People here have very little understanding with what we are dealing with. We are basically dealing with a movement which is RACIST . OBAMA being a muslim , by butt , especially him being Sunni muslim, which basically means ORTHODOX muslim. So he should look like all the prophets did, have a beard, help the needy and the poor, help the sick etc. Tax the rich more so the wealth is shared , no insurance, . How many here even follow the 10 commandments and then go on preaching scriptures ? How many women of yours dress up like a nun? Thats orthodox. USUARY , Interest , MORT-gauge (death gauge , its in the name) How many of you’s involved in failing the 10 commandments ? I still live in rent and am 40 . PC engineer a foster carer, to inspirational talks, help people with marriages and do most of this for free. Only the work PC/network engineer and the foster caring I get paid for but still am a free man this way. Not tied to no system.
Extremely easy to go and point out mistakes in other religions, just look at yourself in the mirror and see how christian or how jew or how muslim you are . And no we don’t think god lives in the KAABA, its a mere central point, we shouldn’t even touch it as it becomes idol worshipping .
Give you some facts about islam. The only religion where you will find MILLIONS who memorize the holy quran, how many of you know your holy scripture by heart ?
We have more information about Jesus in our quran than you do in your BIBLE . Read Ale IMRAN by IBN KATHIR so everything is in CONTEXT . It weighs 18KG and comes in 10 volumes so everything is in CONTEXT and its dated 1350 years old .
The drawings you see by da vinchi , he was a freemason misleading christians . According to St barnabas there was a another prophet before the end of times where jesus would come again . If my calculations are correct using the hybrid moons Jesus will come in another 4 years . As we have another 3 hybrid moons on the way.
Do some research on hybrid eclipses , four moons by John HaGee and you will understand they are bad NEWS . The news reflects this .
See most of you have a summarized version of your holy scripture and I have studied all of them so I have a better understanding what fits and what doesn’t . CONTEXT is everything in religion as things can be misinterpreted.
My advice to the christians out there get the oldest version of the BIBLE which isnt misinterpreted and then practice what it tells you. Only the orthodox wil go into heaven you will learn . All of you taking scripture left right and center out of context taking the 10 commandments out of the picture. Even the 10 commandments are different everywhere you go and then you judge islam?
Please keep things in context. Islam is not the enemy here SATAN is . All you are divided with your own sects . I follow pure doctrine of ISLAM and the oneness of god. You adjoin anything to god then he is not one. Yes he was born without a father , doesn’t make him the son . He spoke from birth to prove he was prophet and not a bastard child . READ ALE IMRAN by IBN KATHIR and then JUDGE . ILLUMINATI has got you guys where they want you and your foolish for falling into his trap.
What CHRISLAM is doing is bringing the people of faith together as we are ILLUMINATI or the new world orders enemy . If you cant see that its not worth my time speaking to you guys. SIgns for the believer no signs for the non.
BTW antichrist will be a MUSLIM and we were told that nearly 1500 yrs ago and he will come from east . So they devide india and make pakistan and break afghanistan and make them so called free and bring more turbulence and more sects . Divide and conquer , the oldest trick in the book for SATAN
See what you guys need to understand is a bit of religious history . King SOLOMAN Peace be upon him had a army of GOOD demons working for him and the ARK of the Covenant provided infinite light to the pyramids . Now the illuminati have both of them . Its called KABBALAH and the abuse of it as they stole it to worship demons and SATAN . So today all the shapeshifting you see, read SURAH JINN by IBN KATHIR to understand what we are dealing with today before taking scriptures which mean very little without the 10 commandments.
“Give you some facts about islam. The only religion where you will find MILLIONS who memorize the holy quran, how many of you know your holy scripture by heart?”
No one has been instructed to memorize the Scriptures. We have been instructed to study and to meditate on what we read.
“We have more information about Jesus in our quran than you do in your BIBLE.”
This is simply not true. We can determine the verity of your claim right now and very easily. The Old and New Testaments are about many things, but they are most certainly about the Messiah. Therefore, based solely on the VOLUME OF CONTENT alone, there is more information about the Messiah, BY FAR, in the Old and New Testaments then there is in the much newer, much smaller, Koran.
“See most of you have a summarized version of your holy scripture and I have studied all of them so I have a better understanding what fits and what doesn’t.”
Your belief in your ability is misplaced if you have convinced yourself that the Old and New Testament Scriptures have any fellowship with the Koran. Your ‘better ideas’ have led you astray. One must not simply READ the Scriptures; one must study them, become immersed in them, literally MARINATE in them, in order to glean the best fruit and the most valid perceptions and understanding. One should not read the Scriptures, once, like a book, and imagine oneself to have attained to a sound understanding of the Message of Scripture. It takes years to acquire sound scriptural insight.
“…you go and then you judge islam?”
Yes. We judge Islam. I judge Islam. But if we judge Muslims (and sometimes we do), we do so against our Master’s Instructions. We are not at liberty to judge individual Muslims.
“I follow pure doctrine of ISLAM and the oneness of god.”
ALL followers of THINK they are following the purest and most correct precepts from on High. This is true of everyone who calls himself Christian, Jew, or Muslim. Because you BELIEVE this about yourself does not make it true. If ALL of us think the same thing about ourselves, then chances are ALL of us are wrong. Your claim is vain and proud – you should re-think it.
“Yes he was born without a father, doesn’t make him the son.”
You just made Him out to be a liar. He Himself has told us over and over again that HE IS the Son. Speaking only for myself, I will deny you to your face and believe the words of my Master, The Son, until my words are at an end. Let YHWH Elohim be true and all men be a liar. YHWH is true. His Son is true. Anything other than that is kindling for the flames. Do you think you can change that with the edge of a sword? You can’t.
And imagining yourself, and perhaps other Muslims, to be the only believers who actually study to show themselves approved, is a big mistake. If you are a regular reader at this website, and you think there are no commenters here who have much of a correct idea about any of these concepts, then you haven’t been reading here long enough, or you don’t pay very careful attention to what you have been reading.
Intercede for the Muslim.
We are all brothers. Remember that on the day when you reach for your sword. And remember all of your words of ‘peace.’ If you sing ‘peace’ while you swing a sword, then you speak lies and the Truth is not in you.
For those of you keeping score at home on the scorecard of truth:
“Read Ale IMRAN by IBN KATHIR so everything is in CONTEXT” Don’t you see, nooh? Believers, people of Faith never point to anything other than Scripture, the opinions of men, albeit interesting at times, have no bearing on what the Bible says.
So i read your Quran, Hmmm. Do i really have to read this opinion of it?
Who titled this You Tube Video with Glenn Beck speaking? “Glenn Beck converts to Chislam”- Don’t believe it. Look, we have enough false prophets and false religions. By the way- what is Chislam? What do they believe? Who is their GOD? What is their”BOOK”