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Up to 50 Books Were Left Out of the Bible - Here's Why

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    • Ambicatus

      [email protected]! MAH FORTE!!! i aint even watched teh video due to wooden internet!

      FIRSTLY! The Main reason they “left out” xD is, Proverbs 25:2, simple as that, the “missing” Books are MENTIONED by NAME in THE BIBLE, then, the SHEER HARDCORENESS of said Books, and how Books Like Jasher, and the facts they contain, which make all movies an books look UTTERLY lame and gay, lets see how many i can list off me hed!

      THE APOCRAPHA! there used to be a MASSIVE penalty for leavin them out! 2 Esdras! good grief! VITAL Book! Book of [email protected] VITAL! ag listin apoc to easy, the missing ones i know of, cause Bible is 5 parts,
      1: Torah (Gen-Deut)
      2: The History (Josh-Ester)
      3: The Wisdom (Psalms – Song)
      4:The Prophets (Jeremiah- Malachi)
      5: The Message (Matt-Rev)

      Now, Missing from the History is,Jubilees, Testimony of the 12 Patriachs, Jasher an Maccabees, from the Wisdom, Yehoshua ben Sirah, Judit, Tobias, Wisdom of Solomon, and Odes of Solomon, then in the Prophets, Enoch 1 and The Revelation of Enoch, an 2 Ezra/Esdras, then in the Message, Boek van Jakobus (dont know its name in stupid engrish) Gospel o Thomas, Nicodemus 1 an 2, Letters of Abragus, Revelation of Peter,

      the book of mormon? yeaaaah, like, how come all the cities these [people were raptured from, are like full of sunworship symbols? hmmmmm, lemme see,

      Joh 21:25 Now there is much else that יהושע did. If every one of them were written down, I think that the world itself would not contain the written books. Amĕn.

      SO there are PLENTY Books that Accord with Isaiah 8:20,,, The entire libray of E.G.White, Jakob Lorber, Ellen White and Emmanuel Swedenborg, i would hazard to say, there is NO BOOK LEFT OUT NOR MISSING, EVERYTHING is in the Standard 66 Books of the Canon, everything else just brings CLARITY, its all about the FIRST 5 BOOKS ALLLLL the other Books, EXPLAIN and DETAIL TORAH, with the MASTER HIMSELF showing the Way.

      The KJV is how one would say, a starter pack, which you read, and then after readin that, you read THIS ONE:

      FREEE for download in ANY format! NO COST NO NOTHING

      http://www.isr-messianic.org/

      • VirusGuard

        Yes good we agree parts were kept out and i plus others say they controdicted other parts in the bible !

        Now this huge book has been worded in many places so that the words could be taken to mean anything and if read them backwards using a computer then i am sure it will give full instructions on how to build a car.

        The general jist of the bible comes from a story that is 5000 years old and the common story goes like

        1. Man born to virgin, mums name always starts with ‘M’
        2. His name always starts with “J” Jesus was a very common name 2000 years ago
        3. Has a vision
        4. Dies
        5. Rises from the dead

        Lets just pretend the bible is a pack of lies then would it not be a sin to keep putting words into gods mouth ?

        Mayians “I chopped his head off” god told me to do it.
        Native Americans “We killed the girls to make the corn grow”
        Preists all over “Bring us food to the temple to feed god” but don’t ask why we are so fat.
        UK 200 years ago “Kill her, shes a witch”

        I mean, it just does not do it for me so maybe god made a mistake with me by allowing me to think for myself.

      • Judge Roy Bean

        Jesus was not a Hebrew name, his name is Yahshua and no matter how common you may think it was his fruits speak for themselves.

      • Amminadab

        Deuteronomy 29:29
        The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.

      • Klemens

        A. Such non-Catholic religions, being outside the only true religion, apparently do not feel bound by the fixed truths that were handed down by the Apostles. While we cannot speak to their motives, we can condemn their actions. Certainly no one on earth – not even the Pope – has the right to “add to” or “re-make” Holy Scripture.

        Nobody can change the Bible!
        Q. What does the Church say about those who accept other ‘scriptures’ besides the canonical books of the Old and New Testaments?

        A. Persons who accept other ‘scriptures’ besides the canonical books of the Old and New Testaments have been anathematized. Consider the following: “If anyone either believes that any scriptures, except those which the Catholic Church has received, ought to be held in authority or venerates them…let him be anathema.” (Creed of the Council of Toledo, 400/447 A.D.)

        http://www.mycatholicsource.com/mcs/pcs/bible_facts_q_and_a_cont.htm#Q.%20Which%20Bible%20should%20I%20use?

        the tamudic jews did try to gave the christians since 2000 years wrong scriptures :!:

        so “up to 50 new books” is made by the Synagogue of Satan!

        • Amminadab

          The belief in the Bible as the sole source of faith is unhistorical, illogical, fatal to the virtue of faith, and destructive of unity.” -The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume XIII, “Protestantism”, Section III A – Sola Scriptura (“Bible Alone”), Nihil Obstat, February 1, 1912 by Remy Lafort, D.D., Censor, Imprimatur. +John Cardinal Farley, Archbishop of New York. (online source: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12495a.htm )

          “Unfortunately many of these books were lost during the persecution of the 17th century, and only those books and ancient documents sent to the libraries of Cambridge and Geneva by Pastor Leger were perserved. The Papists took care, after every persecution, to destroy as much of the Waldensean literature as possible. Many of the Barbes were learned men and well versed in the languages and science of the Scriptures. A knowledge of the Bible was the distinctive feature of the ancient, and now the modern Vaudois. Deprived for centuries of a visible church and forced to worship in caves and dens, this intimate knowledge of God’s word was their only light. Their school was in the almost inaccessible solitude of the deep mountain gorge called ‘Pra Del Tor’, and their studies were severe and long-continued, embracing the Latin, Romaunt and Italian languages.”-Bompiani – A Short History of the Italian Waldenses

          Their refusal to surrender the scriptures was an offense that the Papacy could not tolerate. The Papacy was determined to exterminate the heretics from the face of the Earth. The heretics greatest offense, was that they refused to worship God according to the will of the Pope. For this crime, the heretics suffered every humiliation, insult and torture that man could event: ( Fox’s Book Of Martyrs)

          1) Hanged and their genitals were cut off
          2) The mothers were whipped
          3) The women’s breast were ripped off
          4) They were tied up and fried in a large pan
          5) Their mouths were sewed shut
          6) They were placed into a pot of boiling water
          7) Their arms and legs were cut off
          8) Some had their eyes bored out

          (Rev.) Dr. Cahill declared that “he would rather the Catholic should read the worst books of immorality than the Protestant Bible-that forgery of God’s Word, that slander of Christ.” – (Roman Catholic Tablet, December 17, 1853, p. 804).

          “Do you allow your flock to read the Bible at all?” said a writer in the Contemporary Review to a friend of his, a parish priest. “No, sir, I do not; you forget that I am a physician, not a poisoner of souls.” -Contemporary Review April, 1894, p. 576.

          “The doctrines of the Catholic Church are entirely independent of Holy Scripture.” Familiar Explanation of Catholic Doctrine, Rev. M. Muller, p.151.

          The decree set forth in the year 1229 A.D. by the Council of Valencia… places Bible on The Index of Forbidden Books. The doctrine withholds “it is forbidden for laymen (common man) to read the Old and New Testaments. – We forbid them most severely to have the above books in the popular vernacular.” “The lords of the districts shall carefully seek out the heretics in dwellings, hovels, and forests, and even their underground retreats shall be entirely wiped out.” Council Tolosanum, Pope Gregory IX, Anno. Chr. 1229

          The church Council of Tarragona ruled that: “No one may possess the books of the Old and New Testaments in the Romance language, and if anyone possesses them he must turn them over to the local bishop within eight days after the promulgation of this decree, so they may be burned.” D. Lortsch, Histoire de la Bible en France, 1910, p.14.

          “Socialism, Communism, clandestine societies, Bible societies… pests of this sort must be destroyed by all means.” The encyclical Quanta Cura Issued by Pope Pius IX, December 6, 1866

          “The Bible does not pretend to be a formulary of belief, as in a creed or catechism. There is nowhere in the New Testament a clear, methodical statement of the teaching of Christ” -Question Box, p. 66

          “The very nature of the Bible ought to prove to any thinking man the impossibility of its being the one safe method to find out what the Savior taught.” Ibid., p. 67

          …It was well for Luther that he did not come into the world until a century after the immortal invention of Guttenberg. A hundred years earlier his idea of directing two hundred and fifty million men to read the Bible would have been received with shouts of laughter, and would inevitably have caused his removal from the pulpit of Wittenburg to a hospital for the insane.” -The Faith of Our Fathers, p. 69; see also The Faith of Millions, p. 152

          “Again it has ever been practically impossible for men, generally, to find out Christ from the Bible only.” -Question Box, p. 70

          “…The Bible nowhere implies that it is the only source of faith.” -Ibid., p. 77

          “The Scriptures indeed is a divine book but it is a dead letter, which has to be explained, and cannot exercise the action which the preacher can obtain.” -Our Priesthood, p. 155

          “…A dead and speechless book.” -Question Box, p. 67

          • Crow (hex)

            Excellent commentary. Its amazing you didn’t get one mark up for that piece, but it sums up the vacuous nature of BINs readers. All they’re interested in is fantasies like the ” tooth fairy” and ” santa claus”.

            • Lich king

              Amminidab is badass, we like him greatly

            • The Clucker

              +1 for Amminidab.

            • Louis

              Amminadab, Toucan, Clucker — all hate Christ for founding the Papacy, maintaining it in grace, and keeping it free from doctrinal error for the past 20 centuries.

              Among the three, Amminadab will burn the hottest for continuously repeating the despicable lie that the papacy is Antichrist.

              Sizzling like a slab of swine flesh on a spit is exactly what Amminadab deserves for being such a noisome cesspool of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

            • BEEF SUPREME

              You actually hate Amminadab more than you hate me, don’t you Louis.

              I’m insulted.

            • Amminadab

              The sad thing is even with millions of pages of proof Louis is too brainwashed by satan he will never open his eyes and see the truth.

            • Louis

              Beef — where did you ever get the idea that I hate you? Just because I don’t buy your pseudo-intellectual BS isn’t grounds for contempt.

              Smarten up and stop whining.

            • Gus Fung

              Poor Louis… Might as well be MikeSavage pimping for the JWs.

            • DK

              +1 :grin:

            • cyberkahuna

              Louis

              “Amminadab, Toucan, Clucker — all hate Christ for founding the Papacy, maintaining it in grace, and keeping it free from doctrinal error for the past 20 centuries.
              Among the three, Amminadab will burn the hottest for continuously repeating the despicable lie that the papacy is Antichrist.

              Sizzling like a slab of swine flesh on a spit is exactly what Amminadab deserves for being such a noisome cesspool of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.”

              Amminadab spews his hateful CRAP he gleens from his nasty internet cult. consider the source.

          • Klemens

            Amminadab, you just repeating the MSM (NWO) BS.
            But it is possible to search for the truth, for example:

            How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization
            http://www.amazon.com/Catholic-Church-Built-Western-Civilization/dp/1596983280/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8

            just to remember, without the catholic church there were no christians church.

            • Lich king

              WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!! YOU LYING PAPIST!

              LET ME REMIND YOU OF YOUR PAST FUTURE!

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qnbh15QUp0M

              >: THOUSAND YEARS IS UP PAPIST AND WE BACK< JUST WAITING FOR YOUR BOSS TO PULL IN AND ITS GAME ON!

            • Amminadab

              I humbly suggest you stop with the propaganda for the papacy and learn to think and research for yourself.

              Start with:
              The Two Babylons
              Catholic Concerns
              Foxes’ Book of Martyrs
              The History of the Christian Church – by Phillip Schaff

            • DK

              Britain already had the Church of Iona which replaced the dispersed Christian faith brought over by the Samaritans in 70AD, Britain already had western civilization with Roman contact before the Birth of Christ and southern invited itself into being part of the Roman Empire in 60AD therefore was as civilized as any other part of the Empire.

              Therefore the Catholic church had to subdue and convert heathen British to the Catholic faith, through a coerced union and later in 1066 through Norman conquest whereby the Heretic Bishop of Rome sect on its split with the Eastern Orthodox Catholic Church (in 1054) gave its blessing to William the conqueror to invade England under its banner. This event led to the extermination of half the nation, 800 years of Norman genocide in Ireland and 500 years of Wars in Scotland.

              Your definition of what is civilization is skewed somewhat.

      • finaltestament

        BIBLE IS CORRUPTED : ISLAM CAME AS FINAL REVELATION, LIVING MIRACLE ; NOT ONE IOTA CHANGED, PRESERVED FOREVER ON LIPS OF MUSLIMS EVERY DAY, 5 TIMES

        CLAIM : THIS IS A POPULAR LIE AMONG CHRISTIANS THAT QURAN DOES NOT SAY THAT THE BIBLE IS CORRUPTED,

        Where the Quran says the Bible has been corrupted :

        The Quran says that the current Torah, Psalms and Gospel (the New Testament) have been badly corrupted. Numerous passages of the Quran refer to man’s distortion and alterations of the previous books of revelations from Allah. These passages in the Quran note that the received books by the People of the Book, The Jews and the Christians, do not conform to the original revelations that were given to Moses, David and Jesus.

        Can ye (o ye men of Faith) entertain the hope that they will believe in you?- Seeing that a party of them heard the Word of Allah, and perverted it knowingly after they understood it… Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:”This is from Allah,” to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. (Quran 2:75,79)

        There is among them a section who distort the Book with their tongues: (As they read) you would think it is a part of the Book, but it is no part of the Book; and they say, “That is from Allah,” but it is not from Allah: It is they who tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it! (Quran 3:78)

        But because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard; they change the words from their (right) places and forget a good part of the message that was sent them, nor wilt thou cease to find them- barring a few – ever bent on (new) deceits: but forgive them, and overlook (their misdeeds): for Allah loveth those who are kind. From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, with enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done. (Quran 5:13-14)

        No just estimate of Allah do they make when they say: “Nothing doth Allah send down to man (by way of revelation)” Say: “Who then sent down the Book which Moses brought?- a light and guidance to man: But ye make it into (separate) sheets for show, while ye conceal much (of its contents): therein were ye taught that which ye knew not- neither ye nor your fathers.” Say: “Allah (sent it down)”: Then leave them to plunge in vain discourse and trifling. (Quran 6:91)

        But those who wronged among them changed [the words] to a statement other than that which had been said to them. So We sent upon them a punishment from the sky for the wrong that they were doing. [quran 7:162]

        Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] usages and say, “We hear and disobey” and “Hear but be not heard” and “Ra’ina,” twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], “We hear and obey” and “Wait for us [to understand],” it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allah has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few.[quran 4:46]

        And [mention, O Muhammad], when Allah took a covenant from those who were given the Scripture, [saying], “You must make it clear to the people and not conceal it.” But they threw it away behind their backs and exchanged it for a small price. And wretched is that which they purchased. [Quran 3:187]

        O People of the Scripture, there has come to you Our Messenger making clear to you much of what you used to conceal of the Scripture and overlooking much. There has come to you from Allah a light and a clear Book.[Quran 5:15]

        Indeed, those who conceal what We sent down of clear proofs and guidance after We made it clear for the people in the Scripture – those are cursed by Allah and cursed by those who curse[Quran 2:159]

        Indeed, they who conceal what Allah has sent down of the Book and exchange it for a small price – those consume not into their bellies except the Fire. And Allah will not speak to them on the Day of Resurrection, nor will He purify them. And they will have a painful punishment.[Quran 2:174]

        Where Hadith Says Bible is corrupted :

        The Hadith (sayings and actions of Prophet Muhammad in Islam) as well point out to Biblical Corruption. Consider these hadith:

        Narrated Abu Huraira: The people of the Scripture (Jews) used to recite the Torah in Hebrew and they used to explain it in Arabic to the Muslims. On that Allah’s Apostle said, “Do not believe the people of the Scripture or disbelieve them, but say:– “We believe in Allah and what is revealed to us.” (2.136) (Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 12)

        Narrated Ubaidullah: Ibn ‘Abbas said, “Why do you ask the people of the scripture about anything while your Book (Quran) which has been revealed to Allah’s Apostle is newer and the latest? You read it pure, undistorted and unchanged, and Allah has told you that the people of the scripture (Jews and Christians) changed their scripture and distorted it, and wrote the scripture with their own hands and said, ‘It is from Allah,’ to sell it for a little gain. Does not the knowledge which has come to you prevent you from asking them about anything? No, by Allah, we have never seen any man from them asking you regarding what has been revealed to you!” (Bukhari Volume 9, Book 92, Number 461)

        Narrated ‘Ubaidullah bin ‘Abdullah: ‘Abdullah bin ‘Abbas said, “O the group of Muslims! How can you ask the people of the Scriptures about anything while your Book which Allah has revealed to your Prophet contains the most recent news from Allah and is pure and not distorted? Allah has told you that the people of the Scriptures have changed some of Allah’s Books and distorted it and wrote something with their own hands and said, ‘This is from Allah, so as to have a minor gain for it. Won’t the knowledge that has come to you stop you from asking them? No, by Allah, we have never seen a man from them asking you about that (the Book Al-Qur’an ) which has been revealed to you. (Bukhari Volume 9, Book 93, Number 614)

        What Scholars of Bible says :

        The gospels are not eyewitness accounts

        -Allen D. Callahan, Associate Professor of New Testament, Harvard Divinity School

        Some scholars say so many revisions occurred in the 100 years following Jesus’ death that no one can be absolutely sure of the accuracy or authenticity of the Gospels, especially of the words the authors attributed to Jesus himself.

        -Jeffery L. Sheler, [2]

        and WHAT MORE BIBLE ITSELF SPEAK ABOUT CORRUPTION :

        ” ‘How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely? (Jeremiah 8:8 New International Version)

        Which Part of Bible is corrupted :

        Anypart which says:[my personal view]

        GOD have Son.

        God turned in to man.

        God sent his son to die for us.

        Salvation by Jesus Blood.

        Every things which makes a human Equal to God.

        Verse 4:136 of the Holy Quran:

        “O you who have believed, believe in Allah and His Messenger and the Book that He sent down upon His Messenger and the Scripture which He sent down before. And whoever disbelieves in Allah, His angels, His books, His messengers, and the Last Day has certainly gone far astray.”

        After this they may Ask ,if Bible is corrupted then Why Quran says “Ask People of Book” :

        so read this note for the answer :

        Why Quran says “Ask People of Book”

        Abrogation in Bible

        Who Corrupted the Gospel

        Quran Verse Eaten By God ?

        MORE QUERIES ? MORE CLAIMS ? Pls Post it..We will love to Answer !

        jazakAllah khair for reading !

        • BEEF SUPREME

          You owe proof. All things are to be confirmed in the mouth of TWO or THREE witnesses.

          Your Koran manuscripts differ, the one to another. Did you know that? Your Koran traditions have been handed down through multiple sources. Did you know that? Much of the oldest manuscript material for the Koran has been intentionally destroyed by fire. Did you know that? Do you know why?

          You are the one making the claim that the Old and New Testament Scriptures have been changed. You are the one who owes the proof for your claim. You can’t just say: ‘Allah said so’ to those who do not believe in Allah. If you wish to prove your argument, then you have to come prepared with evidence.

          Have you any evidence?

          Because believers in the Word of God have plenty.

    • Anonymous

      If it was at all that important, wouldn’t you have thought that God would have sent a messenger that could be believed to tell us so? You know, someone who didn’t appear to be making a very lucrative lifestyle off of religion, yet could prove his stated facts?

      • HereAmI

        Your criteria fit Vernon Jenkins to a T.
        “What a beginning” is the website.

    • Crow (hex)

      With regards to the article. ” The Dead Sea Scrolls Uncovered” by Robert Eisenman and Michael Wise is a very good book to read. I bought it for 1p, yes 1p! Plus p&p from Amazon. It was hardback too, an absolute bargain! It covers 50 texts that were only accessible to the public in 1991.It contains stuff such as ” the birth of Noah”, “The Tree of Evil”, ” Enochic Book of Giants”, “The Demons of Death”, ” The Servants of Darkness”, ” The Angels of Mastermoth and the Rule of Belial”, ” The Era of Light is Coming” and ” An Amulet Formula Against Evil Spirits” amongst other things.

      • Ambicatus

        i LOVE that Book! its very “fill in the blanks” if you have red enough Bible, you can fill in quite a few of the gaps, that birth of Noah part, that very interesting, cause it not the birth of Noah, but of someone else, the JEWS say its about Noah, but on closer study, Noahs Birth is already recorded in Jasher, and is totally different, that chapter ia bout the birth of the Nasi’Ha-edah, our coming ruler.

    • Anonymous

      The biggest reason is that the early church didn’t consider them to be part of the Bible. Some of them are obvious forgeries like the Gospel of Thomas that contained historical errors. Others contained heresies. Some contain accurate history but have no spiritual inspiration.

    • MikeSavage

      Complete bunk. This narrator’s description of things like immortal soul and other things is the opposite of the truth.

      • MikeSavage

        It appears that at least three don’t like what the inspired word of God says. Or they have no idea to begin with. Almost no one understands the scriptures, because Satan has veiled their meaning to all except those whom God sees have an honest hearted desire to know Him and to draw close to Him. God must use holy spirit to expose the meaning of scriptures by removing Satan’s veil.

    • Alan Schuetz

      One has to look no further than the Dead Sea Scrolls (DSS)… Bye, bye to Esther and Purim; it wasn’t found. Jude takes a direct quote from 1 Enoch, but the later wasn’t canonized. We were provided the appointed times in Leviticus 23 with the promise of signs, seasons, days, and years from the fourth day of creation but no calendar? The DSS provided the definitive one; see http://www.haderech.info/DSS/Calendar/QumranCalendar.pdf. The Julian/Gregorian calendars were pagan as is the Masoretic calendar — where the fourth month is named after the Babylonian deity Tammuz. THAT IS AN ABOMINATION!

      There are other apocryphal books that should’ve made it into canon like Jubilees and Giants to name a few. The early church “fathers” ensured that all Jewishness was removed from the NT. Yochanan (John) studied in the desert wilderness of Qumran where the DSS was discovered; he was the voice crying out in the wilderness making “The Way” (the Jewish sect mentioned in Acts) straight for Yehoshu’a (Joshua), our Messiah. He performed a tevilah (ritual water purification of Jewish converts to The Way) in the miqveh (a collection of “living water”) in the Jordan River. It qualified as a miqveh because the Jordan has as its source a natural spring. He wasn’t doing anything new; baptism was simply based in the Greek word for water immersion. The Congregation of men and women of this sect lived in Damascus; cf. Acts and the Danascus Document of the DSS. WHERE WAS SHA’UL (SAUL) GOING TO PERSECUTE THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE WAY UNDER ORDERS FROM THE SANHEDRIN?!? Wake up, people!

      Catholicism is and always has been pagan, and the Protestant denominations sprung from it after the Reformation but clung to many pagan doctrines and traditions. Many still recite the Nicene Creed, which is nothing more than a pledge of allegiance to the RCC. The sect of the Pharisees won out and became rabbinic Judaism; see what Yehoshu’a thought of them in Matthew 23! The last traces of The Way were discovered at Masada, but there is a reawakening. Shema Yisrael!

      • Ambicatus

        :D

        Yisra’el

        The name means to strive, to overcome, then rule with Ěl, given to Yaʽaqoḇ as a new name, when he strove, overcame with Ěl (Ber. 32:28 / Gen_32:28). See Overcome. Only the overcomers are going to survive in the Great Distress of the end-time, and according to Scripture, Yisra’ĕl, though they are to be tried and refined as silver and gold is refined, will yet be chosen – again! See Yesh. 14:1 / Isa_14:1, Yesh. 45:17 / Isa_45:17, Yirm. 30:11 / Jer_30:11, Yirm. 46:28 / Jer_46:28, Yo’ĕl 2:32 / Joe_2:32, Yo’ĕl 3:1 / Joe_3:1, Amo_9:8, Miḵ. 5:3-4 / Mic_5:3-4, Zeḵ. 1:16-17 / Zec_1:16-17, Zeḵ. 2:8-12 / Zec_2:8-12, Zeḵ. 8:3-8 / Zec_8:3-8, Zeḵ. 8:23 / Zec_8:23, Zeḵ. 9:9 / Zec_9:9, all of Zeḵ. 13, all of Zeḵ. 14, Rev_3:8-12, Rev_14:1-5, etc. Whenever Elohim refers to Yisra’ĕl in a positive way, it means true Yisra’ĕl. In Rom_ 9:6 we read, “For they are not all Yisra’ĕl who are of Yisra’ĕl.” Theologians speak of an Yisra’ĕl within an Yisra’ĕl, also called the “remnant.” These are the Yisra’ĕlites who believe and obey. These Yisra’ĕlites are those who are Spiritual, saved, living righteous lives. There are many Yisra’ĕlites who are carnal, who are not true Yisra’ĕlites. For instance, in Yirm. 9:26 / Jer_9:26 Yisra’ĕl is strongly reproved because their hearts are not circumcised. Yet Scripture repeatedly speaks of “the remnant of Yisra’ĕl” that shall return (turn back), “the remnant of Yisra’ĕl” that shall be saved. True Yisra’ĕl (the true Yehuḏim) are those whose hearts are circumcised, who keep the Law! (Rom_2:25-29, Deḇ. 10:12-16 / Deu_10:12-16, Deḇ. 30:6-8 / Deu_30:6-8). And the truly born again gentiles are grafted in among these Yisra’ĕlites who are Spiritual – those who no longer wish to sin, who no longer live according to the flesh (Rom. chs. 6-8).

        • VirusGuard

          “5 Near-Identical Jesus Christ Myths That Predate Jesus”

          See http://www.liberalamerica.org/2015/03/17/5-near-identical-jesus-christ-myths-that-predate-jesus/

          Is you sure you are reading the right books because i cannot make much scence from what you has posted above

          • Ambicatus

            because, the above is not for you, o hollow secular, you are like the smoke after a fire, here now, gone shortly./

            • VirusGuard

              A holly man like you seems to resort to insults a bit quick for me and like my local vicor, likes to preech but does not have the wisdom to answer any questions.

              Again i ask how do you know that you are reading the right books or could it be that your mind is playing tricks with you because it has a virus of religion.

              Still the new vicar is better than the old one because the old one insisted that the earth was only 2000 years old and everything in the universe went around the earth.

              Now if these religious freaks want to make out the story is so true then how come they keep changing their minds and invite faggots to marry before god or does you think withdrawal of government funding might have something to do with that.

              Seems to me that people who interpret this bible of yours can be brought, facts speak for themselves

    • Judge Roy Bean

      Nothing surprises me when it comes to the forces of Satan.

    • Amminadab

      Are the Scriptures just the “ideas” of God, or are they the very WORDS of God? You decide!
      God promises to preserve His words. The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. (Psalms 12:6-7)
      You shall not add or take away, says God. Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the statutes and unto the judgments, which I teach you, for to do them, that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which the LORD God of your fathers giveth you. Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
      (Deuteronomy 4:1-2)
      God cares about every one of His words. Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. (Proverbs 30:5-6)
      God’s words will never pass away. Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. (Jesus Christ, Son of God) (Mark 13:31)
      God will curse those who change His Word. For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. (Revelation 22:18-19)

      This doesn’t sound like God inspired only the “concepts” in Scripture. He clearly directed every word and will not tolerate man’s meddling with it. He calls them “His Words.”

      If your Bible is a King James Bible, it preserves God’s words because it was translated using “formal equivalence.” All other Bibles were translated using “dynamic equivalence,” in which the translator is free to change words as long as he conveys the “idea.”
      Read the above Scriptures again. Which kind of Bible do you think God wants you to have?

      • cyberkahuna

        Amminadab

        How are you still around? Maybe you choose to conveniently forget how you LIED by going anti Catholic when you first got here all the while claiming you were a minister for a online church who was against EVERY evil, nasty hateful thing you wrote. And you still lied to EVERYONE and called yourself a minister for a long time after you supposedly left to join your internet cult. I don’t forget and while I can’t speak for all there are also many that haven’t forgot. How sad……

    • Everette

      The Vatican as the book of revelations brings out is the whore that has caused kings and nations to era from the truth . God in Malachi chapter 1 expresses HIS anger against them . And says they are of Esau , Jacobs brother that sold his birth right because he thought very little of GOD and HIS blessings . Esau or the Edomites also known as Rome hates Israel ( America and Europe ) and Judea . They removed much of the truth as GOD said to cover their evils being brought to light . About 15 years ago after reading the bible over and over , suddenly contradiction became apparent . Example Matthew contradicts Luke in Jesus linage . The names do not match from David to Jesus . And No one is not Mary’s linage . It plainly mention Joseph as dad . And besides Mary was a Levite because her cousin married to the High Priest and had to be a Levite to marry him . So she could not run the line from Judea . The Vatican also started up if a Jewish woman is your mother , no matter who she is married to you are a Jew of the tribe of Judea . Wrong , Wrong , Wrong ! The bible uses the male linage and not the female lines . The males carry the seed line and not the female . The tomb scene . Was the angles in the tomb or outside the tombs ? Was there 1 angle or 2 ? the 3 Gosples contradict each other . But wait the book of John is left . For 10 years I ask GOD to show me the truth . I believed the bible was without era . For 10 years I could not read it as I did . Then after I finally was open GOD brought the light of the truth to me . At that time I was willing to except anything that would lead to GOD in truth . Even if I had to set aside the bible . I read many books up to that time . The Vatican had their noses in the dealing with its being brought together. The I began hearing and seeing things about the bible code and how it predicted history thousands of years ago . Details were astounding . Like who shot JFK . And details of his life . Finally something that would bring GOD back to life for me . But then I found out that only certain books in the bible had this code of the future . Here was my answer . I then realized that only certain books were really GODs book . And it took thousands of years for man to invent the computer that could help bring these secret codes to light . Now I know the books in the bible have been tampered with by the Vatican . But there is still enough truth from those bible code books . Matthew , Mark and Luke lived from 120-150 years after Jesus . There information was only passed down . This is why the contradict each other . But John the book of Love contains the bible code . So now I reverence the Bible once again . But still I know there is also Satan’s work in it . GOD even allows Satan equal time . But GOD knows those that will be HIS and the truth that is in the bible will enlighten them and bring them into HIS kingdom . Even Satan’s best attempts still fall short . Those whom GOD for knew were predestined to be conformed to be HIS children . In the end the Vatican will be destroyed for their evil and their worship of lucifer the father of lies and not the father of Jesus . Many books left out Speek of a man from David’s seed that GOD aka Jesus will use to protect the Church of Philadelphia and make war with the 144,000 on the evil kings of earth . But this man must rise to meet GOD first to receive this piwer . Jesus speaks of this man or son of a man like Ezekiel that GOD addresses as son of man in Matthew 24: 29-31 . And says HE (not I ) shall send HIS ( not MY) angels to gather HIS ( not MY) elect . In verse 24:5 Jesus says HE is not the Christ ( anointed man or woman ) . The book of John says Jesus was GOD ! He was the Word that was with GOD and the Word was GOD . So thank GOD for HIS opening my eyes to the truth and to satans lies . The bible code also contains GODs children’s names in it and some of their lifes doings . Could this be the book of life spoken of in Revelations ? Those written in the book of life are to enjoy eternity with HIM .

    • truthseeker4809

      You can’t build an empire based on the story of the Gospel of Thomas. You can be enlightened and go to heaven by knowing yourself according to the Gnosticism. No wonder it had to be suppressed. You can’t extort money out of the people who are the believers of Gnosticism. But then Christianity in other form than Catholic may have not been successful to spread all over the world. The empire itself was engaged in the propaganda of the evil, bipolar disordered god to the world justifying itself to kill the non believers and heretics by any extreme means possible. The Roman empire basically used its power to propagate the doctrine of the Jewish Torah to the entire world, free of charge of the advertisement for the Jews by including the doctrine in the old testament.

      Now you have become the slaves of the inherited owners of Torah which is a very destructive and sectarian doctrine that is not suitable to lead the modern day multi-ethnic population of the world.

      It is time to get over the biblical nonsense and get to the real science of the peaceful scientific doctrine that is the free energy society based on the doctrine of the free energy physics which has been mathematically proven beyond the shadow of doubt.

      • Lich king

        >:

    • roachclip

      “Between your faith and my Glock nine millimeter, I’ll take the Glock.” #JerichoCane’End of Days’

    • Man

      Well it was just roman men in the council of Nicea who chose the best stories they liked and made it the bible.

      Of the bible was divinely inspired, he did a voor job of writing it. Mohammed and also the jews never had problems with their books

      • The Clucker

        “he did a voor job of writing it.”

        Oh, the irony.

        • Lich king

          its bad hey! badly Written! omw tell that to Panin!!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Panin

          badly written!!!!
          ! you see what they say! o and well done on convincing me to become poultry also, i even has a song:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n-9uq_lyRQ

          • The Clucker

            Poultry!

            I saw Green Jello when they came to where I live a few years ago. It was a fun show with lots of mosh pit action. A fat guy smashed into me from behind and my beer glass shattered all over the floor and people were falling down in the broken glass.

            Speaking of poultry… guess who opened for them…

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaEP-kQJpug

            …and guess who that song is about…

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_the_Headless_Chicken

            • Lich king

              i have come full circle, i used to listen to the green jello TOOOOO MUCH back in the day, and GWAR, xD they terrible, actually, me an my buds are zactly like GWAR, but without any sexual perversion, we dont like that nuthin, extreme mind crackin violence, and juvenile antics a plenty, but sexual rudeness and filthyness is grounds for muting, and bless you Clucker, in all the posts you have posted , you are UTTERLY filth free, Pennywise made a wee slip on that hammond omama article, but i think we can let that slide, this time, i think he laments the no delete button fer comments ahyuk!

            • The Clucker

              Bless you too friend. I’ve made more than a few comments I wish I would not have made in the past but that’s ok. Bless Pennywise and Bless The Toucan! Also, have you ever considered holstering a claw hammer? I think it would make a good backup weapon for a sword.

            • Lich king

              i have one, i would post a pic but its waaaaaaaaaay to much effort to load to google drive an then repost, but youll see it one day hypothetically on liveleak, i red that mike the chicken story and it made me sad, cause where im from , thats like torture eh, and all living things have souls, from the microscopic, to the very planet itself, an that chicken soul that was here to develop an learn its chickenly lessons, had a horrible agonizing last bit, thanks to demons,cough, i mean humans who thought its agony amusing. >:( asif i needed reminding why i hate them so much. you see, im not from here, and any cruelty to animals or children drives me utterly bonkers, im talking chew the toilet seat crazy, i actually had a cry. but im over it now, sigh, i almost get a tear out, and then nuthin, its like tryin to squuueeeez out this imaginary poo, and ya caint. i can only cry tears for joyfull stuff, and then only like this micro thing, but yeah, the gematria sed if i drink my wifes tears i get like more power, and well, yeah thats been interesting, im like “you sad eh”? gonna cry? no? ” and shes like “FECK OFF YOU WEIRDO” and then i hadda like use all kinds o tricks to get them tears, cause you not allowed to upset her, or like ever hurt her, or show her upsetting stuff, and i won, at first she was highly resistant, but now its like, i can INSTANLY cure her if she gets sad aboot the state of humanity and she cries an stuff,. then im like “AHA! GIMME THEM SALTY DIAMONDS” and she cracks up, cause seriously that stuff is magic hey, so, basically what im sayin is, hey man, i drink princess tears, of course i got a warhammer!, how else you konk bikers with they helmets! infact, for thy benfit and the fact im annexed this BIN as my personal facebook, ill load a pic of my PERSONAL collection, ie NOT FOR SALE EVER. i have issues with “selling” my swords an stuff. its like i have quite a pile now, and i could get new motorbike and ps4, but id rather have the swords thanks. OJA! YOU LIKE MY NEW PIC! its got nice colours! and like, i like how BIN just INSTA allows me a new profile , classic.

              helmets! pah!

              “helmets are for those who fear having their skulls bashed in”

            • The Clucker

              Yeah the story of headless Mike is quite sad. They shouldn’t have let him go on like that.

              “helmets are for those who fear having their skulls bashed in”
              ^+10

            • Gus Fung

              “the_Headless_Chicken”

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z4rJwvloaU

              Look what you boys have done….

              Father come save us from this madness we’re under
              God of creation are we blind?
              ‘Cause some here are slaves that worship guns that spit thunder
              The chickens that you’ve made have lost their minds

              The headless chicken, the screams that fill the night

              The headless children, well the madness steals the light

    • Man

      Andere the funny thing is, depending which denominations of christianity you use, different books are used as ‘canon’

      For instance the book of mormons….

      The bible is the book of multiple choice where anything goes. Everyone doean’t count the old testament but it contains the 10 commandments

    • A_Smith

      Enoch is likely a book that was intended to be in the canon; Jude quotes directly from it, and the themes found within the book are consistent with everything else I’ve read in the bible. It certainly doesn’t contradict anything. Interestingly enough, one of the prophecies of Daniel involves him eating a scribe and sealing it up until the end times, where it was to be rediscovered; the Catholic church deemed the book heresy several hundred years later, and despite many attempts to destroy the work itself, its existence remained stubbornly persistent, and it shows up every now and again. Really, though, the most important thing to note about Enoch is that it accurately predicts the coming birth of Jesus Christ, and since the texts were found with the dead sea scrolls (unaltered compared to the Ethiopian enoch texts), the text predates Christ by at least 200 years.

      Additionally, Enoch 51:6-7 makes a very curious statement about the end times for a text that is dated (at least) back to 200BC;

      6. In those days men shall not be saved by gold and by silver.
      7. Nor shall they have it in their power to secure themselves, and to fly.

      Damn strange thing for people in 200 BC to be talking about airplanes.

      • freedom007

        “the power to secure themselves, and to fly”
        I am German but from my English school lessons I know that “to fly” means not only to use wings or a plane but also simply “to escape” and this is the meaning of this word in the connection with “to secure themselves.” Thus, this verse of the Book of Enoch does not mean to predict airplanes.

        • Crow (hex)

          Sehr gut! Du hast es richtig. Ich war in Deutschland fur zwei jahren, in eine Stadt heist Ulm. Dahin habe ich so viel freund gemacht. Ich habe ein wonderbar zeit gehabt!

          • Lich king

            ja ja! ich liebe kriege!

            • Crow (hex)

              Wie gehts Garen! Oder bist du noch mal bro?

          • Lich king

            Garen, is /was my favorite league of legends character, i tried that profile as a test, and said some things, and lo and behold some chump was ready to join my space cult, till he googled it, and found out Valoran is tvgame storys, and from it i concluded that if you come with some fancy name, and some new “story” thats not one the internet, some chump/numerous chumps will line up to lemming you.

            oim busy with social studies here eh,

            and come now, your way clever, i finished my work in 2010, laying a Seal and a Curse upon “my country” and im done there, now i study other cultures.

            what are the ramifications of this?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lgi9tklIiw

            • Crow (hex)

              Ramifications: the evil is all around us, blatantly on show to those that can see, but just innocent structures to those that aren’t aware.

              This fella can see clearly
              https://youtu.be/yOIqyk2JHZI.

              I think it’s these structures and their omnipresent nature, and all the symbols that really convinced me that evil is controlling the world. Much more so than all the whistleblowers. People lie to earn a livinubiquitous it was in the world.t these structures and symbols reveal the truth. Although I personally experienced demonic forces exactly 5 years ago, so I knew then that evil existed. I just didn’t know to what extent or how ubiqu

            • Crow (hex)

              Crikey demonic forces at work there. My last sentence went into the middle of my comment and then my computer froze. Right after I wrote people lie to earn a living is part of my last sentence , ubiquitous it was in the world.

    • Williams

      Highly recommend studying the King of kings’ Bible – its a very clear Bible and has everything we need.
      http://jahtruth.net/kofk-free

      Malachi, chapter 4
      4:1 For, behold, the Day cometh, that shall burn like an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the “I AM” Lord of hosts, that it shall leave of them neither root nor branch (nothing).
      4:2 But unto you that fear My name shall the Sun of Righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
      4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in The Day that I shall do [this], saith the “I AM” Lord of hosts.
      4:4 Remember ye and return to The Law of Moses My servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, [with] the Statutes and Judgments.
      4:5 Behold, I will send you EliJAH the Prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful Day of the “I AM” (Sura 43:61):
      4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

      And God HAS sent EliJAH the Prophet, and that time is NOW, because He is here, now. But by not listening to Him people are making a BIG mistake.

      http://jahtruth.net/radio.htm

      • Amminadab

        The Qu’aran/Koran is NOT the word of god

        • Williams

          If it is not the Word of God, then tell me WHY does it specifically instruct the Muslims, that they NEED to read and study The Law (The Torah) IN the Bible, and that they also MUST keep the Covenant, along with everyone else?

          And WHY then, does it tell the Muslims, that they MUST NOT DOUBT that the true Bible, that they MUST read, would SURELY reach them? (unlike the lie they have been told by the Meccans)

          How come it does ALL of that, if it is not the Word of God? The Muslims NEED to read the Bible, and that is why God sent them The Koran, and also to counteract the idolatry and false doctrines spread by the Catholic church.

          And in its correct interpretation, the Koran is actually in PERFECT harmony with the Old and New Covenants in The Bible.

          It is therefore also a good idea for serious Bible students to also read God’s true Koran (not the corrupted one done and promoted by the Meccans) in order to gain a better, fuller understanding and be able to quote to our brothers the Muslims.

          It ALL points everyone BACK to The Law – God’s Law in The Torah, that everyone MUST keep, or they will NOT survive and that Christ came to show us The Way how to keep it.

          • BEEF SUPREME

            Hebrews 1:1-2

            Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets,

            but in these last days He has spoken to us by HIS SON, whom He appointed the Heir of all things, through whom also He created the world.

            Williams,

            In order for the Koran to be true, then God went BACK to speaking to us through the prophets. Is that how God works? Does He reverse Himself? Paul here says that God spoke to our fathers by the prophets…

            …but then THE SON came.

            How does this not speak of finality to you? Where is anything written in Scripture about going back to earthly prophets after The WORD was made flesh?

            Islam teaches that the Bible prophecies the coming of Mohammed. But what did THE KING say?

            I have come in My Father’s Name, and you do not receive Me. If another comes in his own name, you will receive him.

            If you believe Mohammed, then you do not believe The KING.

            • Amminadab

              We believe that prophecy is a part of God’s revelation to man; that it is included in that scripture which is profitable for instruction, 2 Tim. 3: 16; that it is designed for us and our children, Deut. 29: 29; that so far from being enshrouded in impenetrable mystery, it is that which especially constitutes the word of God a lamp to our feet and a light to our path, Ps. 119: 105, 2 Pet. 2:19; that a blessing is pronounced upon those who study it, Rev. 1:1-3; and that, consequently, it is to be understood by the people of God sufficiently to show them their position in the world’s history, and the special duties required at their hands.

              That the Spirit of God was promised to manifest itself in the church through certain gifts, enumerated especially in 1 Cor. 12 and Eph. 4; that these gifts are not designed to supersede, or take the place of, the Bible, which is sufficient to make us wise unto salvation, any more than the Bible can take the place of the Holy Spirit; that, in specifying the various channels of its operation, that Spirit has simply made provision for its own existence and presence with the people of God to the end of time, to lead to an understanding of that word which it had inspired, to convince of sin, and to work a transformation in the heart and life; and that those who deny to the Spirit its place and operation, do plainly deny that part of the Bible which assigns to it this work and position.

            • AlephBetBlog_org

              By this same reasoning, wouldn’t Paul also be one who came by way of revelation from an Angel of Light on the road, or even from meditation when he entered the 3rd heaven? There is evidence that much of what we call ‘special revelation,’ was in fact Gnosis from elemental and familiar spirits on the astral plane. As for evidence, a large percentage of the world’s population is on the same wavelength as this knowledge, using meditation and altered states of consciousness in the same manner. How is it possible to know which Bible writer was seeing God’s true vision and which were seeing Angels like Muhammad?

              This practice of meditation (entering the Astral Plane) is THE most common form of Spiritual knowledge. Even Yahweh says his prophets lied in some cases and that there were Angels who could not be trusted. If all things made by human hands are graven images, and Jesus himself asked why we search scriptures for eternal life, might there be another reason he came to condemn the Jews? What of Stephen’s accusation that they worshiped Moloch?

              Was Jesus happy with his Seven Angels in the book of Revelation? No to most of them. Who delivers messages to men? Angels in all cases. Even the Lord uses an Angel.

              /religion/2016/01/hidden-from-you-by-the-kings-of-the-earth-where-is-the-war-fought-how-is-it-won-by-you-2501210.html

              To this day, the Star of Moloch is in all three religions (Christian, Hebrew and Islam). All of them worship under the same star and Hexagram.

              /religion/2016/01/hidden-from-you-by-the-kings-of-the-earth-where-is-the-war-fought-how-is-it-won-by-you-2501210.html

              The Hexagram is the universal symbol found in all of the major religions, yet Stephen (Acts 7) tells us what it is. Does our world reflect the star (sacrificing a child’s future for temporary gain), or does the world reflect theology of salvation and peace from a Kingdom already inside of us?

              This is not a hard question to answer. Scriptures will not give you a clear answer, but the message of the Son of Man will. He told us that WE are the Living Word as images of him, with the Kingdom being both within and without. He told us the TORAH the Jews protected was not the Living Word, but HE was. We are ALL images of Him (Colossians 1). Where do we look to find an end to Law (Ego / Yahweh) and a way to silence Satan (Conscience / Accuser)? By knowing our own self, we know God. Are WE the temple of God, or is the Bible? LOVE is the key opening the doors to all that can be know, not scriptures.

              Who did Jesus come for? Those who were sick. What is the Church for in this world? The same. We are the house of God, not the building. The congregation is all the house in unity. Why are churches divided over the scriptures?

              Because they ignore what Jesus said and seek Paul (the one they believe). I am not saying Paul is wrong. I don’t think he is on his basic presuppositions. Like all Biblical characters, he is relative to TRUTH. Truth is not a relative to God. Love is not a relative to God. God is LOVE and TRUTH. Neither is the Torah God or living word or even the house of God. YOU are.

        • Williams

          The problem is that the Muslims read the HADITH – which is NOT the same as the Koran and IT is NOT the Word of God, and is NOT in harmony with the rest of Scripture, because it is lies.

          The Hadith is what is used to brainwash Muslims so that they cannot understand the Koran.

          The Hadith is “The Talmud” of the Muslims.

          http://jahtruth.net/hadith.htm

        • Williams

          The problem is that the Muslims read the HADITH – which is NOT the same as the Koran and IT is NOT the Word of God, and is NOT in harmony with the rest of Scripture, because it is lies.

          The Hadith is what is used to confuse the Muslims so that they cannot understand the Koran.

          The Hadith is “The Talmud” of the Muslims.

          http://jahtruth.net/hadith.htm

        • VirusGuard

          Well if its so easy to say

          “The Qu’aran/Koran is NOT the word of god”

          then it’s just as easy to say that the bible is not the word of god and lets face it the scriptures has lots of controdictions so how could it all be true.

          Should you be putting words into gods mouth because 200 years ago according to your predesesor my great, great, great gran was a witch and needed burning at the state and yet the ten commandments said “Thou shal not kill”

          your interpretation of the bible preched to you from an early age comes to you from the very same people that killed people at will and according to the pope got re-written as the Koran and now we have ISIS killing people a bit quickerthan buring, chopping their heads off !!!

          yeah, I know you need that get out of jail free card about “God works in misterious ways” to stop your mind using logic and drawing any conclusions but it’s not going to work with me.

          • BEEF SUPREME

            Sounds like some serious deflection, Williams.

            Koran. Keep your eyes on the road. The Koran is not the word of God.

            We can prove it.

            Old and New Testament Scripture IS the Word of God.

            We can prove it.

            (And what’s this nonsense about contradictions in the Scriptures? Was that an example of a bad argument, or is that your argument?)

            • AlephBetBlog_org

              Are you sure about the Torah being the WORD?

              John 5

              37 And the Father who sent me has himself testified concerning me. You have never heard his voice nor seen his form, 38 nor does his word dwell in you, for you do not believe the one he sent. 39 You study[c] the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, 40 yet you refuse to come to me to have life.

              NEVER heard HIS voice, nor seen his form….Who is the Living Word? What is the Bible as the image of Man’s view of God? What is church building as the house of God compared to the Living Word and House of God made by true WORD? Did they hang the WORD on a tree to protect the Torah?

            • Truthseeker

              alephbet

              They hung the WORD on a tree in accordance with the Torah and the Prophets not to protect it nor to abolish it.

              Those that transgress the Torah will be put to death.

              Jesus Christ, The WORD, took our sins upon Himself and for our SIN was put to death as instructed by the Torah.

              I sinned, I was a convicted sinner until Christ paid my penalty of death for me.

              I was under the condemnation of the LAW until Christ took away the written document condemning me to death.

              If Christ had not taken our sin upon Himself then His death was murder.

              All who applaud the abolishing of the Torah – HATE GOD

              — the 5 Books of Moses reveal to man the Holy Divine Righteous Nature of God thus hating the Torah is the same as hating GOD.

              The Torah is HOLY, the Torah, the Books of Moses were placed in the side of the Ark of the Covenant along with the two tables of stone written by the finger of GOD.

              you are a liar like your father.

    • caribbean critic

      Christianity, old bibles predating the King James version by a thousand years / gospels scrolls, it’s all nonsense garbage not the word of any deity they are the words of men!

    • DK

      The other problems with having a 50 Book bible was the inconvenient lack of portability of over 500 kg of velum and that for the next 1100 years each copy had to be hand drawn by a monk. I Guess that is why they left most out in reality.

    • James Glover

      So lets get this straight.
      The Lord God Creator of Heaven and Earth who designed and created the most fiendishly complex, yet totally harmonious planet, solar system and all animal and human life is somehow incapable of assembling His Word together into the group of books we call the Bible???
      Yeah, right.
      Let the Word of God be true and EVERY man be the liar that he so patently is, along with all his hypocritical religions, pseudo christianity and all other demonic constructs that he aspires to, rather than repent of his disgusting, wicked ways and seek Jesus Christ to be his Lord and Saviour.
      The Bible is PERFECT, man is NOT…!

    • Anonymous

      The truth is out there.

      It always comes out.

      Follow your bliss

      Relax

      Your already there you just haven’t experienced
      It yet…

    • Pix

      “The reason the Roman Catholic Church left these books out of their formulation of scripture is quite obvious…”

      It’s not a mystery, there are not two alike and they all contradict each other.

      :lol:

    • DRJerkins

      Better, more obvious reason: they do not belong.

    • Ambicatus

      i like you, you give me rad stuff to put in the gematria, like check the 3rd entry eh

      http://www.gematrix.org/?word=Time+for+new+religion+without+all+the+scumbag+asshules+that+need+one+ey+money.

      fkn canada eh

    • Ambicatus

      BWAHAHAHA HERES A THOUGHT FOR YOU STINKHEAD!

      “YaHWeHs son still loyal enough to kill a galaxy or seven for his Paps, eat it”

      of course! never get tired o that [email protected] was made for it!,

    • Crow (hex)

      My god, I’d hate to meet you in person. You sound like some deranged reclusive hobo, living in an isolated shack. Some character out of Texas Chainsaw Massacre springs to mind!

    • Ambicatus

      omw you got nasty thoughts eh

    • Captain Spaulding

      What you talking aboot? Richard or ole sean the ranter! and, like, how did you know? Texas chainsaw massacre is a bit gay and soft, im more house of 1000 corpses kinda guy

    • Bill Lyle

      Aren’t they essentially the same movie? All Rob Zombie did, was take TCM and shot it like a music video. I’ll admit to liking the characters more, in Corpses; but there’s not much difference between the two.

    • Crow (hex)

      Sean Michael Blacab. He always gets his comments removed, so then it looks like I’m talking to someone else!

    • Crow (hex)

      Sean the ranter!

    • Ambicatus

      Your dead right, there IS no difference, both movies are about real life tribes that hunt people and then make funiture an stuff outta them. now, the other favorite is hill have eyes series, i once, to de-sensitise dear ole buddy, our bard, fed him 2 x STRONG LSD, me too, and then proceded to force heem to watch hills have eyes 1 an 2 all in one sitting, so that he cans be chilled in the Ragnarok and not be such a feckin crybaby, and well, he had his blanky up over his nose, and his huge eyes were HEEEEEElarious, and the movies goin “YOUUU GEEEVE MEEE BAAAYBEEE” and buddys like cryin, and im like xD , and now he thanks me for it, cause feckall can faze that dude now, im like, look buddy, i killed quentin, and he’s like “whateeeverrrrrr” dint even cry at his grans funeral! great success!

    • Ambicatus

      Dear Cobra, it seems the comments thing is broken on here! my reply to bill went to the bottom! [email protected]
      and like, we dig you bigtime bro cobra, you even got ze crow in yer pic, which is rad, i get followed by a whole bunch of them crows, its rad. CAW! they go, by stupid brother, william the [email protected] , thinks he can make a “drone” army with quadcopters mounted wit .22′s an cameras, piloted by nerds we kidnap, i think, hes an idiot, and my crows are MUCH better than any drone, k they only SORT of listen, and are prone to krapping on everything, also they take all yer shinys, sigh. but anyway CROWS! woohoo! may you be blessed so hard, you get freaked out! Ahmein! Your a good example of when you are a Team Bible guy, your nationality means NOTHING,. i have no nation, but the coming Kingdom, and you too. and because of how you are, and what you believe, the revenge for the Anglo-Boer war shall not come near you, for you are EXEMPTED. BUT, the unconverted of thy land, is in grave danger. and they know it not. For i can see, you, like me, HATE JINGOS.

      we go not near them. and that bloody sean. He’s gone downhilll since i saw he was throwin hiaku’s, now, plegh, hes an interesting one that. i smell upon him , wounds, that only the excessive output of violence ,. can cure. ie for sean to feel better he has to kill a feckload of childmolesters an such like. otherwise his type of soul is gonna be in torment, for i smell great injustices done unto him.

    • Crow (hex)

      Yeah that war was because of that pr××k Cecil Rhodes, winston Churchill et al. We are deeply ashamed for our imperial past and I would like to apologise to all nations that we plundered and enslaved.

    • Ambicatus

      Arr matey, your not of Ephraim in any case, your Benyaminic, a Celt, so you dont qualify anyway, your a bro, any foo can see that, in anycase, as the Book says its Edom , Moab an Ammon that shall be extincterized, and thats “the jews and their inbred white freemason goy” the round headed “whites” its the masons bro, we know, and we do not paint all from the isles with the same brush, its a very Tribal thing. its all this people like david bowie and his inbred ilk,bad teeth, weak build, pasty skin, super gay etc etc.

    • Crow (hex)

      Yeah Crows, Rooks and Ravens are majestic birds. They’re incredibly clever and are not fazed by humans. I’m convinced they know something that we don’t know! They see everything!

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