A Simple question for BIN”s biblical scholars
A Simple question for BIN”s biblical scholars
14 Then came to him the disciples of John, saying, Why do we and the Pharisees fast oft, but thy disciples fast not?
15 And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom “”is with them?”” but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast.
In Matthew 9 Jesus Christ indirectly states He is the Bridegroom that will marry the Church.
There are many other scriptures proving Jesus Christ is the Bridegroom.
Most accept the fact Jesus Christ will marry the Church at His return – which produces an important question;
Who married the children of Israel in the wilderness, was it Christ’s Father or was it Jesus Christ that married the 12 tribes?
Here in Jeremiah 31 the Lord clearly states He was a husband to the Children of Israel.
Jeremiah 31
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day [that] I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
And In Jeremiah 3 the Lord reveals He divorced the House of Israel.
8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
This is an important question as it reveals who authored the Old Covenant, who wrote the 10 Commandments in two tables of stone and who ordered Moses to put to death every man. Women and child AND even their animals when the Children entered the Promise Land.
If Jesus Christ is GOD during the time before He came to earth in the form of a man then He did not come to reverse what His Father had done as many seem to believe.
It means no one can point a finger at the God of The Old Testament times and accuse Him of being harsh and brutal and believe He gave us His Law as a curse if God of Old times IS JESUS CHRIST.
It means Jesus Christ did not have to come to straighten out the problems caused by His Father’s OLD LAW and the OLD WAY.
The FACT Jesus Christ IS GOD, is the WORD of God and as the WORD dealt with men from Adam on—causes a real problem for Christian theology.
Can any of you prove the above is incorrect?
One other problem:
If it was the Father that married the Children of Israel in the wilderness does that not mean Jesus Christ will marry His Father’s Wife at His return?
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hey notruthseeker–there is no such thing as a biblical scholar–the bible is total bull shett so you have to be a brain dead moron to tout it–but go ahead,satan loves your point of view,it matches his…
B4- this most likely is my last comment to you– please explain why I should or would believe you rather then the Bible?
From the point of view of pure logic and science and physics and history and fulfilled prophecy AND the many request I have made of my Father that HE answered — why would I believe YOU?
When you get sick you run to the doctors — for 50 years I have gone to my Father and HE HEALS me and I am almost 80.
Sorry no sale here buddy! And If I pass on all 40,000 flavors of so called christianity — you— are not even in the game.
It wasn’t the Father. It was I AM (YHWH / EGO EIMI)
This is why:
“I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.”
Jesus did not preach the Gospel of the New Testament. That came later.
The reason why you imagine that the resurrected Jesus would follow Mosaic LAwe is because you think that the resurrection is Jewish and that you are going to burn in Hell REGARDLESS of whether you are RIGHT or WRONG about that.
Damien nothing is “Jewish”, the Jews are only the smallest tribe of the 12 and the 12 are Hebrews not Jews.
The Law of Moses is not from Moses it is from God it is GOD’s LAW.
The Torah is the WORD spoken to Moses on the mountain.
Damie — no one burns in “hell” i.e. the grave, those that refuse to obey are cast into the Lake of Fire and are burned to ashes.
all you are doing is telling me what you believe — I do not care what you believe I care what Jesus Christ teaches.
Jewish does not designate the Judeans (who were actually the biggest tribe of the ancient Israelites – it was the Benjamites of St. Paul who were the smallest). You think it does because you are wrong. You do not care what Jesus Christ taught but what Jesus Christ taught while still under His (not the Father’s) Old Testament (i.e. incarnate). What Christ taught as the Messiah is passed on by St. Paul. And you still mistakenly think that it was the Father that instructed Moses.
damien as always you did not read the paper.
the paper states it was Jesus Christ that met with Moses on the Mountain.
damie — so Christ taught one thing in the Old Testament and then changed direction on a dime in the New??
I believe I have read where some where that Christ States HE CHANGES NOT.
So according to you one day it is death for working on the Sabbath and the next you can party like it’s 1999? LOL
He didn’t change at all.
He never commanded everyone to obey Egyptian, Judean, Syrian, Roman, Germanic, Native American etc law ONLY but just those who ruled over them.
13 All of you must obey those who rule over you. There are no authorities except the ones God has chosen. Those who now rule have been chosen by God. 2 So whoever opposes the authorities opposes leaders whom God has appointed. Those who do that will be judged. 3 If you do what is right, you won’t need to be afraid of your rulers. But watch out if you do what is wrong! You don’t want to be afraid of those in authority, do you? Then do what is right, and you will be praised. 4 The one in authority serves God for your good. But if you do wrong, watch out! Rulers don’t carry a sword for no reason at all. They serve God. And God is carrying out his anger through them. The ruler punishes anyone who does wrong. 5 You must obey the authorities. Then you will not be punished. You must also obey them because you know it is right.
6 That’s also why you pay taxes. The authorities serve God. Ruling takes up all their time. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them. Do you owe taxes? Then pay them. Do you owe anything else to the government? Then pay it. Do you owe respect? Then give it. Do you owe honor? Then show it.
A word to bloggers about Mr. Truthseeker:
Mr. Truthseeker likes to pose “simple” questions, and then rage with lengthy, elaborate refutations. The man would reply with a 500 word blast if someone were to say something as benign as “you know, sometimes the day is long, and sometimes the sky is blue”. This is just what he does. This is an open forum, he’s welcome to do this if that’s how he wants to spend his time….
so go ahead and have fun with the raging debate…I personally enjoy a lively discussion every now and then…after dinner, it can actually help the digestion! Just don’t get your feelings hurt if you can’t convince him of anything.
in other words JKNBT can not refute the Words of Jesus Christ and so far no one has even attempted.
JK you are capable of stating what you believe – you just can’t seem to back up what you believe with clear scripture.
Has any one noticed when Jesus Christ quoted from the WORD it stopped His detractors dead, they could not respond.
jknbt let’s make one correction to your statement: “and then rage with lengthy, elaborate refutations” —
Here is the corrected version: “”and then with great zeal for the Truth of God delivers elaborate scriptural, factual and logical corrections”"
Sorry jknbt you are offended by the Truth — most are!
You say Jesus ONLY …then here’s A simple question for the accursed one
“7And He came and took the scroll from the right hand of the One seated on the throne.”
WHOM is the
“One seated on the Throne” ?
when it was HE Y’shua the Lamb who took a scroll
from Him ?
You say Jesus ONLY …then here’s A simple question for the accursed one
“7And He came and took the scroll from the right hand of the One seated on the throne.”
WHOM is the
“One seated on the Throne” ?
when it was HE Y’shua the Lamb who took a scroll
from Him ?
…………….Revelation 5:7…………………
One last time….Got no answer then ? to my simple question !!! Humm Yet you want us to answer your warped and corrupt interpretation of events in ur fairy stories
“If it was the Father that married the Children of Israel in the wilderness does that not mean Jesus Christ will marry His Father’s Wife at His return?”
The contradictions are ALL yours that you see …Ponder this for your answer….I’ll even point them out for you, as I know your Spiritually…BLIND….
For the *woman who has a husband is bound by
the *law to her husband as long as *HE lives. 
But if the 
husband *dies, 
she is 
released from the law 
of her husband. (Rom 7:2)
“One other problem:”….SOLVED
Crazy you do not really believe the Father and the Son would marry the same woman – do you?
even today in this perverted society that is looked on as sick.
I hope you are just trying to cause problems for me.
If you think that could happen — wow
Crazy, we will just have to wait and let the resurrected Saints of God teach you the Truth.
Crazy I will try one more time, even though it seems a waste of time:
Isaiah 54
5 For thy “Maker” [is] thine husband; ——the LORD of hosts [is] his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
John 1
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2The same was in the beginning with God.
3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
I assume most accept the fact Jesus Christ is the WORD and the WORD made “every thing” which would include man— thus Jesus is our “Maker” and Isaiah 54: 5 states For thy Maker [is] thine husband; and to confirm and “thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel;”
If this does not confirm Christ married the Children of Israel — then you will have to wait until after the 1000 year reign of Christ to learn the truth.
One last time for blindasabatseeker : of course HE DID and because of Her ADULTERY He gave a certificate of divorce Jer 3:8 Israel “is not My wife, nor am I her Husband!” (Hos 2:2a) and furthermore He then DIED on the Cross so as NOT TO VIOLATE His Own Law thereby FULFILLING the Scriptures I showed you “IN HIM”
Their divorce created a seemingly unsolvable problem which you stumble on …..Deut 24:3-4
PROBLEM SOLVED AS STATED……Follow the Dots seeker
…”Go and proclaim these words toward the north, and say: ”Return, backsliding Israel,’ says Yahweh; ”I will not cause My anger to fall on you. For I am merciful,’ says Yahweh; ”I will not remain angry forever. (Jer 3:12) Only acknowledge your iniquity, That you have transgressed against Yahweh your God, And have scattered your charms To alien deities under every green tree, And you have not obeyed My voice,’ says Yahweh. (Jer 3:13) 
“Return, O backsliding children,” says Yahweh; 
“for I am married to you. 
I will take you, one from a city and two from a family, and I will bring you to Zion. (Jer 3:14) last 70 years
NOTE
“I will betroth you to Me forever; Yes, 
I will betroth you to Me In righteousness and justice,Hos 2:19-20
Therefore for GOD to rectify this and FULFILL HIS PROMISE “GOD” Husband DIED thereby RELEASING HER ISRAEL from the LAW OLD COVENANT and MADE another NEW ONE NOT LIKE THE ONE IN EGYPT (Jer 31:32) …SAME PERSON TALKING “GOD”…SO NOW HE CAN REMARRY ISRAEL having made peace between the two Israel and Judah are made Clean in CHRIST “GOD ”
Paul understood that when, using the law to explain, he reminded the Jews (who knew the law) that
the law only has jurisdiction over a person until their death. When the person dies, any judgments, contracts, or obligations are then dissolved: 
(Rom 7:1)
Explanation of this seeker is
remarry her former husband, who was in reality a New Husband. a New Creation a New Man a NEW ADAM …His New Covenant like the OLD COV was drawn in “BLOOD”, OLD with Animal Blood New with GOD’s OWN BLOOD… 
SO a New Covenant with Israel is GREATER…. 
a levite the Old Milkisadec the NEW
So Israel can actually remarry without being called an adulteress. Therefore, Y’shua GOD had to not only die to free Israel, but had to also rise from the dead so that she could
The New Covenant,
is a renewed marriage covenant between GOD and His divorced wife who had been scattered to the nations ISRAEL,(the CHURCH AGE is about Grace)to be allowed to Join In the NEW covenant when they GENTILES were far off 
having NO HOPE. Eph 2:12
For US to be children of God we have to MARRY GOD
Hence the 
BRIDE His CHOSEN PEOPLE …the WISE Virgins… JEW AND GENTILE IN CHRIST.
If this does not …you’ll have to wait till the end of 1000yrs
and then it’s TOO LATE
crazy you are one confused fellow. 2 + 2 to you is 6 or 9 or what ever.
crazy I am not at all sure what it is you are trying to say,, who is marrying whom?
Actually do not bother to attempt to explain it will just be more confusion.
crazy since you are a trinity guy — according to that false doctrine all 3 entities were married to Israel and all three will again marry Israel — how screwed up is that?
BTW Still waiting for an answer to
WHO IS ON THE THRONE giving Jesus the Scroll from His right hand 
As for Israel
NOTE
“I will betroth you to Me forever; Yes, 
I will betroth you to Me In righteousness and justice,Hos 2:19-20
FOREVER….as it is written
means FOREVER. 
blindbatseeker…Everything will remain a Mystery to seeker everything even when I wrote it out in front of your Eyes,,,,,
“The mystery of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to those on the OUTSIDE, everything is expressed in parables, 12so that,
‘they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven. 
Mark 4:12
“Ask seek and you will find” your problem is your NOT A REAL SEEKER
after 50 yrs your STILL OUTSIDE !!!! even while Tax collectors, Prostitutes and Jews and gentiles are getting into the Kingdom of God everyday, how is that ?….You stumble on the “TRUTH which could save you” but you REFUSE TRUTH “GOD the HOLY SPIRIT is a HE who will guide us in ALL Things ” a Triune GOD who was married to ISRAEL, Divorced. buried, cleaned ,and will be AGAIN RE=MARRIED when the BRIDE LEAVES FOR THE THRONE ROOM in HEAVEN as SHE WAS BETROTHED TO HIM FOREVER.as per a Promise Hos 2:19-20
How brilliant is God to to that,and NOT VIOLATE His own Laws and Yet kept His Word to Israel in Hos 2:19-20
crazy every thing you write is a mystery, you are about as clear as mud.
The Father sits on His Throne in the Holy of Holies in the 3rd heaven and Jesus Christ is at His right hand and the Father hands the scroll to Christ with the Father’s right hand.
there is NO third “person” but there are two separate persons in the family of God, the Father and the Son.
The Spirit is of the Father’s as the Father IS A SPIRIT. It is his essence and it imparts to those called by the Father the down payment to eternal life — which we do not as yet have. with out breath, food and water we die and cease to exist.
OK crazy screw this up as best as you can and you are a master at twisting the word of God
OK this is not the best I can do but a quick overview of it.
NOTE
“I will betroth you to Me forever; Yes, 
I will betroth you to Me In righteousness and justice,Hos 2:19-20
betrothed definition: a person that someone has *promised to marry*, or has been promised to as a marriage partner:
Promised to marry
FOREVER 
The Father is on the Throne Yes and it was the *Father who married Israel and wrote the 10 commandments as per…Scripture Exodus 33:18 Moses pleads with God, “Show me thy glory!” And God answers, “I will make all my goodness pass before you and will proclaim before you my name,
Yahweh 
1st Person of Triunity…GOD
Y’shua the Son Of God… 2nd Person of the Triunity…GOD who DIED on cross to RELEASE ISRAEL FROM THE LAW…will Re-Marry the Bride Cleaned Israel Jew and Gentile… fulfilling Gods PROMISE to Her FOREVER
The 3rd Person of the Triunity is the SPIRIT OF HIS SON who is NOT HIM but like Him, of Him and **HE will guide us in ALL THINGS.. John 16:13…..The TRUTH WHICH YOU DENY IS
A HE.
Galatians 4:6 “And because you are **sons, God sent the
Spirit of His Son 
into our hearts, crying out, “Abba, Father!” .
Notice the Father sent not Himself, Not His Son again at Pentecost, BUT THE 3rd Person the “SPIRIT OF HIS SON” a
HE 
who guides us in All things John 16:13 
GOD the HOLY SPIRIT..
HOLY (JUST HAS TO BE GOD) SPIRIT …IT’S PURE LOGIC and common sense …
Who is One with the Father and the Son.1 John 5:7
Galatians 4:5 “That he might redeem those who were under law, that we might receive the adoption as sons”.”You were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,…(a promise of betrothal FOREVER )
And it’s as clear as mud You deny the TRUTH WHICH COULD SAVE YOU and thereby have rejected *HE* GOD the HOLY SPIRIT due to being blind to the mysteries of God as your standing OUTSIDE the CHURCH and using your OWN Interpretations from the Law.
HE the Holy Spirit of God, *SPEAKS to the CHURCHES* the Ones YOU despise….WAKE UP…and repent of UNBELIEF .
Adieu
nope crazy I do not follow catholic doctrines like you do and never ever will.
you must force scripture to say what you want scripture to say
Galatians 4:5 “That he might redeem those who were under law, that we might receive the adoption as sons”.”You were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,…(a promise of betrothal FOREVER
We are redeemed from being “under” the penalty of the law – not from obeying the law.
When a person “redeems” something they must pay a price to redeem it.. Christ redeems those that have been sentenced to death by the payment of His life. His death can not legally end the Law, show us from the Torah the legal way death can end a law.
by the way crazy the Galatians are gentiles and never kept the Law so how could they be under the Law except as convicted law breakers. Any one that transgression one of the Commandments is a law breaker and is under the sentence of death. Jew or gentile!
adopted as sons not as brides and they are adopted into Israel because they are gentiles. Salvation is offered to the 12 tribes only no gentile will every be in the Kingdom unless they have been adopted into Israel.
I am an natural born Israelite, of the Tribe of Manasseh. Crazy if you are of English decent then you are of Ephraim.
The Holy Spirit/Seed/Sperma assures us of the promise of eternal life not betrothal. The Gift of God is eternal life, not a rapture, not freedom from obeying the law.
OK crazy twist the above into a confusion of knots.
if you are of English decent then you are of Ephraim.
———–
NO. They aren’t.
Israeliteseeker said “I do not follow catholic doctrines like you do and never ever will.”
You clearly stated to me recently quoting Catholic belief as Gospel so you LIE !!
you said..”His death can not legally end the Law, show us from the Torah the legal way death can end a law.” I ALREADY DID
I will make a NEW covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. It will
NOT be like the covenant I made with their fathers 
Jeremiah 31:32
..”For Christ is the
end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.”- Rom 10:4
You do NOT Believe Y’shua and His NEW COVENANT which Yahweh said He would make in His Own Blood which is GREATER than ANIMAL BLOOD of Moses…as He has NO PLEASURE IN ANIMAL Sacrifice which was the seal on the OLD MOSES COVENANT Hebrews 10:6 Isaiah 1:11 Hebrews 10:8 Hebrews 10:1-18 1 Sam 15:22 “I hate, I despise your feasts, and I take no delight in your solemn assemblies. … I will not accept them; and the peace offerings of your fattened animals
HE SAID HE WOULD MAKE A NEW COVENANT for righteousness which would be the END OF THE LAW
FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS, not end of the law for understanding about Sin … 
Galatians 3:24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith.
You said ….”The Holy Spirit/Seed/Sperma assures us of the promise of eternal life
not betrothal.” 
As it is written says ….”since I betrothed you to one husband a pure virgin to present to Christ.,”2 Corinthians 11:2
I will betroth you to Me forever; Yes…Hosea 2:19-20
You even said in your fairy tale article above the following …
“many other scriptures proving 
Jesus Christ is the Bridegroom.”
So you then must believe the Bridegroom Has to have a BRIDE ….but you LIE and say “NO Betrothal , not as bride”
Matey you need help, really, you have a serious Identity crises, this is due to you relying on your Own Interpretations and NOT following Y’shua’s Glorious New Covenant…
You said…”The Holy Spirit/Seed/Sperma assures us of the promise of eternal life”
You claim ur an Israelite and Cling to the Old Testament, I get it , as you think they have eternal life IN them
LAWs… as you said above.
As it is written says…
You diligently search the Scriptures because you think to have 
eternal life in them ….John 5:39
So “as it is written” gives your Own personal Interpretations a clear FAIL.
WAKE UP…and repent of UNBELIEF
Adieu
crazy we are moving fast into the Time of Jacob’s Trouble and when times are
gut wrenching then we will both know who is following Jesus Christ and who is NOT.
LOL crazy so according to you the Father is marrying His sons.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Crazy your doctrine just gets crazier and crazier — your 3 in one trinity sure makes things strange.
lukewarmseeker …What is crazy is you think you are (1 person) of the 12 tribes which are part of the 144,000 an Israelite
, you think the Law of Moses sealed with Animal Blood will get you eternal life when in fact the Ministry of DEATH awaits you , being LUKEWARM to the Bride of Christ should be sending OFF ALARM BELLS but your DEAD to the Word of Salvation “the Glorious New Covenant ” SEALED with GOD’s OWN BLOOD WOW!!!,now that’s CRAZY when it’s all laid out before you … your without an excuse WRETCHED…and should be SPEWED OUT OF HIS MOUTH, for your tepid response to the call of the Bridegroom , So be it 
To anyone who reads this
follow the New covenant as God Said this about the one which is fading away…. 
1 Sam 15:22 “I hate, I despise your feasts, and I take no delight in your solemn assemblies. … I will not accept them; and the peace offerings of your fattened animals
” to obey is better than sacrifice,
And to heed than the fat of rams.”
Obey GOD
As GOD SHED HIS OWN BLOOD FOR YOUR SALVATION….
Sealed in His OWN Blood
The ***CHURCH*** of GOD, which he hath purchased with
his own blood. 
WAKE UP…and repent of UNBELIEF
Adieu
Acts 20:28
“The ***CHURCH*** of GOD, which he hath purchased with
his own blood. 
”
is a Glorious Sacriface and covers Sin, Animal blood of Moses Law , not so, choose wisely ,not like this foolish one who despises the Churches.
crazy this is what you wrote:
” to obey is better than sacrifice,
And to heed than the fat of rams.”
Obey GOD
Crazy what is it we are to obey?? What must we HEED? Tell us exactly what Law, what rules we must obey
Jesus Christ taught us to obey the Torah which HE OBEYED perfectly
I do not sacrifice animals, the Sacrificial Law was ADDED because of the transgressions of the LAW i.e. the Torah.
The Sacrificial Law was the school master that lead us to the Sacrifice of Christ.
AND the only change to the covenant were the promises — all else remains exactly the same.
The promises were physical and now they are spiritual.
and again crazy which of the 40,000 are the true church -which??
Some, like you, believe in a rapture and some going to heaven at death and some in the resurrection —-crazy the churches you keep mumbling about are one mass of confusion — if all of the churches are THE church then it must not be important what they believe.
The WORD of GOD is Logical and what you espouse is not — your doctrines are one huge mass of confusion.
I HAVE repented of sinning against my Father and no I am not perfect as I am still in this body of death awaiting the resurrect to eternal life.
I continue to answer only for the few that may read our comments — I want them to see your confusion.
Blindasabat LUKEWARMseeker….said..”I do not sacrifice animals” obviously not..
but you follow the Inferior sacrifice of animal Blood as the seal on the
OLD Covenant Law.
At the FIRST (Old) Covenant, cut at Sinai, the book of the covenant (marriage contract) was proclaimed and
then the blood of bulls was sprinkled in order to 
“seal the deal” 
The blood made the contract effective, operable, and binding.
“Then he took the Book of the Covenant and read in the hearing of the people. And they said, “All that Yahweh has said we will do, and be obedient.”
And Moses took the blood, sprinkled it on the people, and said, 
“This is the blood of the covenant which Yahweh has made with you according to all these words.” (Exod 24:7-8)
With the NEW Covenant (new marriage contract), blood was offered to “seal the deal” just like the OLD covenant : a mandatory requirement as “without the shedding of blood there is No remission from Sin”
Also Y’shua is of the order of Melchizedek the High Priest not a lower levite. In this Sacrifice, the husband died to dissolve the OLD marriage LAW but at the same time, HIS blood became the SEAL, blood of the NEW covenant.
As Christ came as High Priest of the good things to come with the greater and more PERFECT (BODY) TABERNACLE
not made with hands, that is, not of this creation. 
Not with the blood of goats and calves 
, but with His OWN blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. (Heb 9:11-12)
lukewarm said…”what is it we are to obey?? What must we HEED? Tell us exactly what Law, what rules we must obey”
..”For Christ is the
end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.”- Rom 10:4
So it’s CLEAR as mud from Scripture the NEW COVENANT IS PERFECT Blood Sacrifice and Fulfills
the Law of Moses the Prophets and the Psalms which has,” it’s FULFILLMENT IN HIM ”
Luke 24:44
in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.” 
Then he said to them, “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was still with you, that everything written about me
Luke 22:37 For I tell you that this Scripture
must be fulfilled in Me 
Repent lukewarmseeker and be Born Again to the New Covenant be converted to the Gospel of the CHURCHES a Triune God of Holy Spirit a HE who is the Seal to those that BELIEVED …Ephesians 1:13
If you were Born Again you would KNOW the LAW was Buried with CHRIST , HE GOD the Holy Spirit would confirm it to you, but you are of your Father
Blindbat said…”which of the 40,000 are the true church -which??
The Mainline CHURCHES have One thing in common a TRIUNE GOD and it’s
to the CHURCHES HE SPEAK TOO 
So that rules you on the OUTSIDE looking in .
sorry crazy every thing you say is 180 degrees contrary to the Words of Jesus Christ, I chose to follow Jesus Christ — you can continue on your “trip” to a rapture to no where — I pass.
Lukewarm..said….”I chose to follow Jesus Christ”
NOPE you don’t !!! as you would accept the
Your following your Father
who denies this and you accuse the brethren of the Ecclesia of God, His People, His Churches, His Bride, daily
You talk about LOGIC but your the most ILLOGICAL person I’ve ever met even a CHILD could ANSWER this question you pose….
QUIZ for CHILDREN
Which is Immeasurably Greater in HOLINESS and RIGHTEOUSNESS
A …..the LAW for righteousness (Moses) who used the blood of Animal as a seal between the two parties [God and man]….for the forgiveness of Sin.
OR
B ….CHRIST for righteousness…(God) Himself and used His OWN BLOOD as a seal
between the two parties God and man….for the forgiveness of Sin
NO EXCUSE a 5yr old could
point to God and His blood as the SUPERIOR COVENANT…..BUT YOUR BLIND….. just as you are to HIS WORDS
“Jesus said that he did not come to abolish the law or the prophets, but to
fulfill them”…….”THEY HAVE THERE FULFILLMENT IN ME” Luke 22:37
So then you’r blinder than a 5 yr old, so how could you possibly grasp the Mysteries of Rapture promises !!!? and the mystery of His Bride and His parables ?
Not a chance, so continue on your Trip down, as you’ve NOT PURCHASED for yourself the Blood of the New Covenant which would cloth your NAKEDNESS which will be reveled to all, including your Family , at His APPEARING
Repent and come as a CHILD, a CHILD can SEE.
The “Law of CHRIST” is SUPERIOR Immeasurably so than the Old Covenant .
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crazy
4 For Christ [is] the “end” of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
“”END”": Christ is the — “end-goal” — of the Law for righteousness.
For Christ is the “aim” of the Law, The perfection found in Christ is what God’s Holy Righteous Law produces.
12 Wherefore the law [is] holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
The outcome of living by the Holy Just and Good Law can be found in Jesus Christ and we are to follow Jesus Christ and His perfect Lawful WAY.
5056 télos (a neuter noun) – properly, consummation (the end-goal, purpose), such as closure with all its results.
[This root (tel-) means "reaching the end (aim)." It is well-illustrated with the old pirate's telescope, unfolding (extending out) one stage at a time to function at full-strength (capacity effectiveness).]
crazy you and all who refuse to submit to the rule of Jesus Christ, refuse to allow Christ to rule over you — must find some scripture that can be twisted to say the Holy, Righteous, Just and Good Law has been abolished –Sorry it is eternal, it is the Nature of God and it must become our nature or we can never enter God’s Kingdom.
These are the Words from the mouth of the SON of GOD.
27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay [them] before me.
Crazy I welcome the rule over me of my Master Jesus Christ– I abhor my will and I love the WILL of My Father — it is Lawful, it is just, it is perfect.
but hey you and your three gods can run amuck in a lawless way — for now — soon the Torah will be the Law of the entire earth and from Jerusalem it will GO FORTH.
Crazy during the time of the judgment of the Great White Throne, you will be judged, you will keep all of the Feasts of God and the Sabbath and you will observe the Statute of clean and unclean meats,
Remember you were told that day would come.
Lukewarm Israelite ? you failed
“end-goal” Indeed !!! you ADDED THAT to the Text a 
like all your fairy stories….it’s NOT……” as it is written” and you will be held to account for taking away and adding to Scripture and also for leading your own children to perdition. 
IT CLEARLY SAYS… END…. OF THE LAW FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS .
The “Law of Christ” is now for righteousness and He Says “It’s FINISHED” “fulfilled IN HIM” your rambling are your OWN Interpretations without any anchor to ANYTHING or any body of believers NONE of the Six churches believe your NONSENSE
The Triunity is of ALL Mainline ecclesial of God,as they had all things in common Acts 4:32-35 He proves it by Speaking to them to
His CHURCHES ,HIS PEOPLE….you not so…… you say you Identify as a Israelite thinking you’ve special KNOWLEDGE of the LAW and 99.9 you say got it all wrong matey a 5 yr old is all over this, Prostitutes are getting in the Kingdom, JEWS are getting IN the Kingdom (Jews for Jesus) ALL TRINITARIANS who are Born Again with the Deposit are IN…
You
NOT SO
All you say I will do mentioned above
does NOT PERTAIN to CHRISTIANS …Gentiles
You identify as a Israelite, so go ahead do your Moses animal blood seal on you Law Covenant….You’ve been duly WARNED
Romans 3:21
But now,**apart from the Law**, 
the **righteousness of God has been revealed, 
as attested by the Law and the Prophets. 22 
And **this righteousness from God comes through **faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe 
…..You have NO Faith in the SUPERIOR BLOOD OF THE NEW COVENANT FOR FULL RIGHTEOUSNESS
Christians have CHRIST and Righteousness from His Blood sealed Covenant and the INDWELLING OF “GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT”.
Lukewarm….it will be painfully obvious for you when you wake up at the GWT judgement and guess what NO SECOND CHANCE mr 0.01%er…NONE
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crazy, what in the world are you talking about??
stories….it’s NOT……” as it is written” and you will be held to account for taking away and adding to Scripture and also for leading your own children to perdition.
IT CLEARLY SAYS… END…. OF THE LAW FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS .
If you think for one minute that the KJV contains the actual words spoken by Christ then no wonder you are so confused.
the King James VERSION is a -0– “”version”" — of the Word of God that was most likely written in Hebrew then translated into Latin and Greek and others and then the “unconverted” translators used what ever definition of a Greek word that matched what they wanted the Bible to say and then tried to match it with a English word.
Some words like “soul” can be translated to have 50 totally different meanings.
In the KJV the word “Passover” is translated as “Easter” — Look for the word easter — it never was ever in the Greek or Hebrew or Latin.
When I used the term “end goal” here is where that came from. I could just as well used the word “purpose” or aim.
The aim of the Law is a perfect sinless life which Christ achieved.
Strong’s Concordance
telos: an end, a toll
Original Word: τέλος, ους, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: telos
Phonetic Spelling: (tel’-os)
Short Definition: an end, purpose, tax
Definition: (a) an end, (b) event or issue, (c) the principal end, aim, purpose, (d) a tax.
HELPS Word-studies
5056 télos (a neuter noun) – properly, consummation (the end-goal, purpose), such as closure with all its results.
[This root (tel-) means "reaching the end (aim)." It is well-illustrated with the old pirate's telescope, unfolding (extending out) one stage at a time to function at full-strength (capacity effectiveness).]
Crazy Jesus Christ lived a Torah Perfect Life and that was His purpose, that is what He came to earth to do sor Christ could become our Passover that is exactly what HE had to do.
and He lived the perfect life as the example we are to follow— How foolish to believe Christ lived a sinless life so we could continue sinning.
and don’t give me that garbage of “its in our minds”— the Torah must become our NATURE we must live by the Torah because it is Holy Just and Good.
Lukewarmseeker ….All this is a moot point really as ur NOT even a CHRISTIAN, a follower of the Gospel delivered unto the saints, “those who are called after His Name” …
You Identify as an Old Testament Covenant Sabbath keeper who picks and chooses his OWN Interpretations from the New Testament Texts (LUKEWARM CONVICTION) from whatever your universal translator matrix YOU decide fits ur stiff necked, obtuse opinions 
to DENY HIS CROSS, PAID IN FULL SACRIFICE 
You scold everyone saying they have “NO LOGIC”
…..Well Mr SPOCK as I’ve already mentioned , a 5yr old can chose the right answer ….
A ….Israelites… Sprinkling of Animal Blood from Moses to seal the Covenant (1)
or
B…..Sprinkling of Gods OWN Blood to seal the NEW Covenant (2)
BTW a CHILD is ALL OVER IT , BUT YOU STUMBLE ??? …a (stiff-necked people)
Acts 7:51 You stiff-necked people…”You are just like your ***ancestors***: You always resist the Holy….
Notice I’ve never favoured any particular version ever, as the SCARLET THREAD of redemption from ABLE and CAIN, Moses, to CHRIST is in play but to us REAL CHRISTIANS (GENTILES), CHRIST is the Superior Covenant , no matter how they tamper with the Text……
The Israelites, Judah and Gentiles are ONE IN the BLOOD OF CHRIST
****APART FROM THE LAW ****.Romans 3:21….When YOU SEE Able ,Abraham ,Jacob, Issac, etc in the Kingdom and YOUR THROWN OUT,…. 
you’ll UNDERSTAND … 
THEY NEVER GAINED THEIR RIGHTEOUSNESS FROM THE LAW 
BUT THEY’RE IN THE KINGDOM, YES 
….They GAINED IT BY FAITH IN THE BLOOD of the LAMB… 
Not by LAW keeping RIGHTEOUSNESS ….”APART FROM THE LAW” has been revealled and YOUR LUKEWARM ATTITUDE TO IT IS WRETCHED say’s the Lord.
The truth is that Adam never kept the Sabbath, nor did Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph or anyone UNTIL MOSES as there has to be a BLOOD Sacrifice to SEAL A COVENANT
The word “Sabbath” is not found in the book of Genesis! …
So don’t tell me garbage they kept a Sabbath as PRIOR to EGYPT 
Deut 5:2-3 “The Lord our God made a covenant with us at Horeb. The Lord ****did not make this covenant with our fathers****, but with us, with all those of us alive here
today.”
. 12 “And also I gave them My Sabbaths to be a sign between Me and them…..JUST GIVEN AND ACCEPTED HERE …1st Covenant Ezek 20:10-12
There are ONLY TWO COVENANT seeker (1) Old (2) New…NOTHING PRIOR as a Covanant a PROMISE TO DO.
Veiled Lukwarmseeker …”The aim of the Law is a perfect sinless life which Christ achieved.” etc etc
I have no probs with this at all one does ones best that’s the AIM ….
BUT WE FAIL and if you FAIL just ONCE YOUR OUT 
…..Y’shua is GOD and HE PASSED this AIM for US and “IN HIM” we have FULFILLED THE LAW as HE SAID…”the Law of Moses the Prophets and the Psalms” “HAVE THERE FULFILLMENT …IN ME” …. 
NOT YOU US as WE FAILed that AIM dismally.
Lukeware to the New Covenant SAID …..”we must live by the Torah because it is Holy Just and Good”.
YES…
but DON”T expect to be “ACCOUNTED WORTHY” when YOU offer Moses seal for RIGHTEOUSNESS 
instead of the BLOOD seal of GODS SON for RIGHTEOUSNESS 
The CONFUSION is ALL YOURS because your VEILED to the Glorious NEW COVENANT and are too stiff necked and obtuse to ACCEPT …”IT’S FINISHED” …in Greek …έχει τελειώσει
TETELESTAI-………….
….PAID IN FULL………….HalleluYAH
Adieu
sorry crazy I can not remove the confusion from your mind only God can do so.
You will remain in your condition of total confusion until the Father calls you to His Son.
Can’t answer what a 5yr old can
….So you have NO LOGIC after all , NONE
The Father will ask (A) 1st or (B) 2nd
You’ll answer Him then, for making the cross of no effect, by sticking with A when it’s obviously B to anybody with common sense and LOGIC and even a child.
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