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6 Ridiculous Lies You Believe About the Founding of America

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6 Ridiculous Lies You Believe About the Founding of America
By: Jack O’Brien, Elford Alley 2,822,160 views
When it comes to the birth of America, most of us are working from a stew of elementary school history lessons, Westerns and vague Thanksgiving mythology. And while it’s not surprising those sources might biff a couple details, what’s shocking is how much less interesting the version we learned was. It turns out our teachers, Hollywood and whoever we got our Thanksgiving mythology from (Big Turkey?) all made America’s origin story far more boring than it actually was for some very disturbing reasons.

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    • Pix

      Most of them died of diseases brought over by the immigrants. They had no immunity so died in their millions. This was helped along by Christian preachers who it is noted in their diaries they deliberately went into smallpox hospitals to collect infected blankets to hand out to the native population. Proud of the fact they were doing gods work in clearing the land for Christians.

      A tiny proportion of the immigrants got on with the natives, but most did not. When the 2nd sons of the European landed gentry turned up with their wealth and armies, they forced native tribes on death marches at gun point, to inhospitable areas where they died by the hundreds of thousands.

      The churches then moved in forcing their children to attend Christian schools where they were murdered by the tens of thousands. That practice has only recently stopped a few decades ago. The bodies are being dug up as we speak. The resulting court cases will be coming to an area near you soon.

      • Louis

        What a bunch of Pix baloney. My own French Catholic ancestors arrived in North America in 1654 and dwelt in peaceful co-existence with Native American Indians in Canada and Northern Maine.
        My family never abused Indians or gave them any diseases. Neither did my honest, hard-working, deeply religious ancestors ever own slaves, black or red.

        I still have over 2,000 relatives in Canada and Maine. One of my Maine relatives iis currently serving in office as a US congressman.

        • chan7

          You cant even get a written sentence around a classroom without the end outcome being drastically diff from the first. Nor if you can fathom just one generations worth of secrets and manipulations. Not to mention a dozen… (just with in a family…)
          Also the fact Catholics burn anything that is contrary to their Pov im sure plenty of truth alone is hidden/destroyed there. They if anything are the masters of manipulating their version of history…
          Northern Indians for the most part were actually very friendly…However this depends on the location and time frame…
          The massive diseases were long before your given date o.o. As was many of the worse of the contacts gone bad.

          If you bother to read the entire thing you will see he pointed out that a large majority of immigrants actually joined Native life willingly…. So much that it was a problem for the leaders.
          Franklin and all the forefathers knew their importance.

          Pretty much you come across s obviously not even reading the entire thing…

          U need to realize that that time period and on the east had started to give in.

          The ugliness was just getting started in the west. (The frontier; where the tragedy came more from our side then theirs.)

          Like everything in RL there is a duality to everything. PoV/Perspectives etc.

        • Louis

          The Huron and Iroquois were “friendly” northern tribes? Tell that to the North American Jesuit martyrs murdered in cold blood by these savages and cannibals who cooked their hearts and ate them.

          Furthermore, I wasn’t responding to the published article (which I found riddled with nonsense.) I was replying to a post by Pix.

          Lean how to read and write and think. Most of what you said was unintelligible, bordering on demented.

          “U need to realize that that time period and on the east had started to give in.” Do you call that a “written sentence.” I call it gobbledegook.

      • whitebear

        Pix you surprise me, nicely

        Good Story Dale

        Into Indians eh? Try on; THE GOSPEL OF THE RED MAN a way of life
        by Ernest Thompson Seton 1860 – 1946 (compiler) and his wife Julia who assisted greatly with its production.

      • All Natural

        What were the Christian Preachers names? I would like to read their journals. Where is this documented proof of the hundreds of thousands and tens of thousands of children? I would like to read that too. You must be a time traveler because you seem to know EVERYTHING and try to state it as fact. But what morons like you don’t seem to understand is there is nothing we can do about it. You can cry all you want and make Indian day, week, month, city, etc. it isn’t going to magically bring them back. It was a terrible thing…..that many countries did to many indigenous peoples. The US wasn’t the top slaver of the world….but you wouldn’t know that. I have a feeling that in most cases we get nowhere near the truth. Why is it that most of the people I know have some sort of Indian blood in them? Could it be that the well to do people with morals and values (not Pix) might have actually got along and maybe meshed into one society?

    • JayWill

      Great story. We need more informative comprehensive stories like this. Thanks for the up…

    • Patriot

      There’s a cool book about the arms & armament of native Americans. It mentioned loads of surprising stuff about how things REALLY were. Lots more indians, forts that rivalled the best of the whites who came in — even fire-proofed w/lookout posts, multi-tiered thickness of huge tree trunks, etc.

      The spanairds ditched much of their fancy steel armour in Florida, because the natives’ longbows were so powerful they punched right throw it — even went through chain-mail, too!
      I think we have a lot to learn from the good aspects of native american culture, although they did have some negatives, as well.

      • Louis

        “Although they did have some negatives, as well.”

        Truer words have never been spoken.

        Early American pioneer Roger Williams dwelt with New England Indians for 40 years, and was an eye-witness to the way they lived. He also extensively wrote about them. What he observed can be summed up in three words: rape, murder and pillage.

        That’s what the Indian tribes did to each other and to their women and children on a routine basis for amusement and profit. And if courageous European explorers, missionaries and settlers never arrived in the New World with a message of Christian civility and the rule of law, the Indians would still be raping, ambushing, murdering and stealing from one another, just like the “native” Indians in Mexico and Central America, who ripped the beating hearts out of hundreds of thousands of their neighboring Indian tribesmen as a sacrifice to their pagan gods. And, by the way, they were also cannibals who considered human bone marrow a delicacy.

        • Anonymous

          Go back home,Eurotrash.

        • yes2truth

          A red Indian savage will always be a red Indian savage as were the blacks in Africa before we arrived there.

          The problem with white Anglo-Saxons & Celts is that they have been brainwashed within a Marxist (Jewish Bolshevism) conditioning system posing as education. The end result being the production of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of wretched hand wringing guilt laden liberals and slimey do-gooders.

          The fact that they were cannibals i.e. CAINnibals doesn’t surprise me in the least and means they are descendants of Cain – serpent men, or as David Icke would say, reptilians.

      • whitebear

        When you speak from a place inside you that truly doesn’t know the whole truth, you continue the lie.

        Many false premisses to over come for non natives because of the propaganda perpetrated and disseminated by the same type of people that are behind the wishy washy UFO disinformation every since whites arrived around 1492.

        The Unawakened Human: A complex array of behavior based entirely on past experiences.

        To walk a mile in another’s moccasins is to be entirely open and nonjudgmental while living life from that person’s particular and unique perspective. If you agree with the methods and outcomes derived from his/her decisions made during both calm and chaotic moments then perhaps you have a new friend. In either case, “walk on,” in terms of remaining clear and pure to your particular and unique perspective…until it no longer serves you.

    • Anonymous

      A lot of revisionist history here. There’s no way the population of North America was between 20 and 100 million. It was probably about 1 million. Yes, most of the Native Americans were killed by disease. Europeans made much better use of the land than a bunch of primitive stone-aged people. The Native Americans tortured each other, raped women from other tribes, stole each other’s land, and killed and ate children from other tribes. Cannibalism and the brutal treatment of women is something that’s politically correct to leave out and instead portray them as the noble red men who lived in harmony with nature.

      • Anonymous

        You realize we are still alive and have recorded our own history,right?Most of the tribes have not gone extinct.I live in Florida and we disobeyed the “Great White Father”. We refused to leave our land and go West.That means we probably live right in your community.My particular tribe does not eat other humans much,but we might roast your pet if you piss us off! :lol:

        • Baron Von Richtoven

          As are we in western North Carolina. Many of our people fled into the mountains during the time of Jackson and refused to go to Oklahoma, we are still here today. Who is that kook with the revisionist history lesson above? Children being dug up? I think not! :eek:

      • chan7

        …nope its very well known in current circles that they had a Massive Population Drop… The estimated number is actually 10-18 pre Columbian…but even that it guessing. U will hear anywhere from 1-20 million in arguments. (Current knowledge is it was def over 15mil…)

        Sad people dont realize you could practically spin around and stop…walk forward and if knew what you were looking for would find an arrowhead no matter where u live…

        This is not revisionist history. Its a shame if you still get your history fro ma bunch of rewritten and even made up BS…

        You history is the same version that doesn’t acknowledge the vikings were hear, Chinese , and even Egyptians were to have been found here recently…

        Or the type that think Columbus was a swell guy that did everything the legends say…

    • Ryan Fanus

      History is written by liars. Everyday, we notice information changing on a dime; what we thought was so ends up being something else. That’s because historians have to retract what they teach to prevent the spread of harmful lies. Its like an epidemic of bad information.

      • Anonymous

        Will Durant did not come across as a liar.Sure he had parts that now we know that are not true,but I do not believe he was purposefully covering anything up.You would have to read one of his world history books(it is a set).Jules Verne wrote a set himself if you are lucky enough to find one at an out of place antique store.The difference between most writers now and Durant, is he traveled freely to the countries he wrote about,and asked the people about their version of what happened compared with the official college version of the time.He also puts his own view in where appropriate,which is usually spot on.Top 10 book sets of all time,and used by samplers everywhere. :wink:

      • chan7

        Not really just liars but rather, arrogant perspectives… Like saying Europe invited this or that, when China or even Egypt did long before that. 250 cities have been found to date underwater.
        No telling what really happened.
        The only sad thing is not learning for our mistakes…

        History is still writ by those that want to manipulate it.

        Truth be told though there is a LOT of real info finally coming out in past decade. Yet the lower school systems still teach the old BS.

        I think our current worries should be with not learning from mistakes and allowing to them to do it all over again as we speak.

    • faro0485

      History seems to be written by vikings as well…

    • Anonymous

      A great read, but one quibble, ironically about ethnic misrepresentation. The Vikings never wore helmets with horns on them (as was pictured in the article). That was the Visigoths, pastorals.

      • yes2truth

        Plus barbarians were not savage wild men. Barbarian means Bearded One or men who were bearded, unlike the real barbarians i.e. the clean shaven butchers called Romans.

    • nimbunje

      this was good

      • trouble8696

        History is a SET of LIES agreed Upon… Most of the Historian …wrote History for their Paying Masters …What is history but a fable agreed upon… by Napolean Bonaparte…Apart from that…Good Article… :lol:

    • Betsy.B.Scott

      The perpetual lie that the indigenous people died out or have a tiny modern population. The easiest and quickest way to shrink the indigenous populace was to misclassify them as Negro, Hispanics, and Mulattoes. Read African And Native Americans by Jack Forbes.

    • Greystoke

      The “Crying Indian” you have as part of your article is actually a French actor playing the part. Just thought you should know. He died several years ago.

      Good article. :smile:

    • youstopandthink.disqus

      I enjoyed your article. It would still have been just as enlightening with out the punches of profanity. That said, I just read an aticle in the National Geographic, May 2007 issue, “Jamestown, the Real Story” how settlers destroyed the native empire and changed the landscape from the groud up. I research antropological migration after the flood during Noah’s time. It may be that the Native Americans are the descendants of Shem. The land mass at that time was more concentrated. They migrated from Turkey region through modern day Europe/Russia via Canada, spread out through Alaska, came down into north America, moved through Mexico into South America. I am basing this on the characteristics of the people who look, Mongolian throughout these areas.

    • O. Ryan Faust

      The truth is; we may never know the truth. Two things we know for sure:
      1) There were people here to greet Columbus when he got off his boat, and
      2) White people thought they were superior to everybody else beginning around the time of Columbus’ voyage.

      The ‘inquisition’ had been going on since the 13th century, and had reached its zenith of barbarity during the infamous “Spanish Inquisition” and expulsion of all Jews from Spain in 1492.

      Perhaps when Emmanuel arrives in 2048 we’ll be given a better perspective of history.

    • Anonymous

      God, I’m so confused. WTF, we are here and now, we have a Constitution, fight for that! And yes we need reparation to those “conquered”? Christ we took their land by force or trickery; the least we could do is let them open brothels on their land and really make some money.

      • yes2truth

        No reparations are required at all. Might is right and conquered should mean conquered unless we’re talking about lilly livered Anglo-Saxon liberals laden down with unnecessary guilt and therein lies the problem.

    • Joe_Zao

      This article is fascinating. A topic for another would be on how regional medicine in the USA differs. That is to say, mental disease in Virginia (a slave state) and mental disease from West Virginia (a free state) deserve different observational issues. The slave master making his world in a cancer trust and the radical difference in what free people think a mental disease would be from a state that harbors deep soulless issues to free states. :twisted:

    • MountainHome

      History is to be re-written again and again including this article will be ‘revised’. Revision is what keeps college professors in their jobs. What we blame on one race is equally done by all other races other innocents. Still, it is a good article, but needs more balance of what the Native Americans did to each other and not seen solely done by Europeans upon arrival.

    • g-man

      nice article, i’d suggest folks might consider reading author allan w. eckert’s series of historical narratives entitled the ‘winning of america’ series. excellent reading and should be taught in schools. http://www.allaneck.com/bio.html

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