Challenging The Bible's Historicity: Finding Israel's First Camels
“The introduction of the camel to our region was a very important economic and social development,” said Dr. Ben-Yosef. “By analyzing archaeological evidence from the copper production sites of the Aravah Valley, we were able to estimate the date of this event in terms of decades rather than centuries.”
Copper mining and camel riding
Archaeologists have established that camels were probably domesticated in the Arabian Peninsula for use as pack animals sometime towards the end of the 2nd millennium BCE. In the southern Levant, where Israel is located, the oldest known domesticated camel bones are from the Aravah Valley, which runs along the Israeli-Jordanian border from the Dead Sea to the Red Sea and was an ancient center of copper production. At a 2009 dig, Dr. Ben-Yosef dated an Aravah Valley copper smelting camp where the domesticated camel bones were found to the 11th to 9th century BCE. In 2013, he led another dig in the area.
To determine exactly when domesticated camels appeared in the southern Levant, Dr. Sapir-Hen and Dr. Ben-Yosef used radiocarbon dating and other techniques to analyze the findings of these digs as well as several others done in the valley. In all the digs, they found that camel bones were unearthed almost exclusively in archaeological layers dating from the last third of the 10th century BCE or later — centuries after the patriarchs lived and decades after the Kingdom of David, according to the Bible. The few camel bones found in earlier archaeological layers probably belonged to wild camels, which archaeologists think were in the southern Levant from the Neolithic period or even earlier. Notably, all the sites active in the 9th century in the Arava Valley had camel bones, but none of the sites that were active earlier contained them.
The appearance of domesticated camels in the Aravah Valley appears to coincide with dramatic changes in the local copper mining operation. Many of the mines and smelting sites were shut down; those that remained active began using more centralized labor and sophisticated technology, according to the archaeological evidence. The researchers say the ancient Egyptians may have imposed these changes — and brought in domesticated camels — after conquering the area in a military campaign mentioned in both biblical and Egyptian sources.
Humping it to India
The origin of the domesticated camel is probably the Arabian Peninsula, which borders the Aravah Valley and would have been a logical entry point for domesticated camels into the southern Levant. In fact, Dr. Ben-Yosef and Dr. Sapir-Hen say the first domesticated camels ever to leave the Arabian Peninsula may now be buried in the Aravah Valley.
The arrival of domesticated camels promoted trade between Israel and exotic locations unreachable before, according to the researchers; the camels can travel over much longer distances than the donkeys and mules that preceded them. By the seventh century BCE, trade routes like the Incense Road stretched all the way from Africa through Israel to India. Camels opened Israel up to the world beyond the vast deserts, researchers say, profoundly altering its economic and social history.
Contacts and sources:
George Hunka
American Friends of Tel Aviv University
Source: http://www.ineffableisland.com/2014/02/finding-israels-first-camels.html
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So, if we trained camels to hoof it back to mecca, and put a few into every country where there are muslims, perhaps the muslims would follow the camels.
muslims problem, not how holohoax isreal is stolen from palestine or jews doing 911 or that americans give billions to israel every year. Only idiot trolls are still trying to focus on muslims to distract from the jew and their schemes, forty million illegal leeches and other immigrants being swarmed on america. troll.
You’re supposed to be worried about demographic displacement, but the Palestinians and Aztlan publicly compare themselves to one another. If the (figurative) ‘Mexicans’ of the Middle East now argue that they were not used for labor, when Jews drained the swamps and reclaimed the desert waists, can American history be revised, too, and it’s capitals shared with foreign nationals?
The world power of Biblical times. Rome, took Israel from the Jews, commemorated the destruction of the temple, salted the earth, and renamed it, after the Phillistines. Of which I am aware, these mainly-Arab refugees do not even have a consonant, equivalent to the letter “p,” in their language.
(Yes, I see a typo, but no ‘edit’ function was provided.)
the Palestinians have been in Palestine since the beginning. the Khazar fakes have no history or place in the area. Long before there was an “Adam” there was Canaan and Persia, Sumer etc
Any myths the Khazars have they stole:
Creation Genesis/Flood- Epic of Gilgamesh
10 Commandments- Stele of Hammurabi
Exodus- Flight of the Hyksos
‘Moses’ in a bed of reeds- Sargon the Great
‘Star of David’? no such thing. it is the hex symbol or Star of Remphan going back farther than when the jews first invented the agitprop about themselves- same goes with the Indus Valley Sun Sign- the swastika
the Tribe, who are foremost thieves, stole the concept of ONE god from the Pharaoh Akhenaton- who was the very first monotheist- and claimed they invented it. just as they invented the 6 million holocaust myth. Cabala states they would only “re-enter” Israel after 6 million had been killed. that is why they are so fixated on that number. There werent even 6 million in W Europe before the holocaust.
Since Pontius Pilate, whom they goaded into murdering their adversary Jesus, for them; its been the same down thru history. To the very last decade where we’ve seen how they got the USA to take out their enemies for them- one by one by one from Iraq, to Libya to Syria….
and on and on and on
NOTE: the camel smoking gun is now being dealt with. havent you heard of an ugly new bioweapon called MERS that only seems to strike ethnic ‘arabs’ and came from CAMELS ??
Yes indeed.
thanks to this convenient and timely virus, both of the above obstacles to the khazar pharisee Eretz Israel myth are being removed. MERS, and inciting the muslims to kill each other off en masse across the region in trademark zionist “revolutions” will soon grant khazars the kingdom.
Once AIPAC, Inc has blackmailed America into finishing off Syria and Iran for them? Zionistsl will rule the region unopposed, with their Useful Idiot Xtians swooning that its all prophecy fulfilled.
So that means the Book of Mormon archaeologically is correct?
Uh, no, not really. You still have that problem of The Book of Abraham being a wildly fictitious “translation” of a papyrii copy of an Egyption book of the dead having nothing whatsoever to do with Abraham and everything to do with Egyptian pagan ritual practices for crossing over into the afterlife. Joseph Smith never saw the Rosetta Stone coming, I suppose. Once the papyrii were re-discovered in 1966 and with adequate provenance attributed to Joseph Smith and the ability to translate hieroglyphics into modern languages, it was curtains for one of the Pearls. The rest of the tome is safe from scrutiny, however, thanks to the non-existence of the mythical golden plates along with the Egyptian papyrii from which a rather verbose 1,201,240 english words were penned.
Carbon-14 dating??? Are you serious! Please… This method has been debunked as inaccurate.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/does-c14-disprove-the-bible
Exactly ..
Agreed. The numbers coming from the Mt. Saint Helens pyroclastic flows make for good entertainment. I won’t mention the live mollusk shells that dated to 2000 ya. It’s what happens when circular reasoning joins forces with uniformitarianism and has a head-on collision with evolution-driven statistical probability. The funny thing is they’ve gotten the math horribly wrong and still have no explanation for the existence of any matter in the first place.
“still have no explanation for the existence of any matter in the first place.”
Sure they do. It’s an allegory for an orgasm called “the big bang”
Since the sexual union/explosion is all we can imagine, it’s what we get for an explanation.
Correct
Archaeologists paid by “whom?” Follow the money… gov. based grant money with “agenda” strings attached will get “only” the desired results.
Camel farts indeed.
Note: (Check for my coupon on the back of your cereal box)
Camels came from America
I couldn’t put it any better than this:
Matthew 23:24 “You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.”
Moses was supposed to live 1391bc to 1271bc. He wasn’t allowed to go to Israel. Then the jews had to fight their way to the place called israel. No camels before that time period in israel for the jews.
And carbon 14 dating is inaccurate.
And one last thing, dig more holes. Move around a bit more, you might find more and maybe older ones.
During the 1980s an earthquake shook Biblical myths. The discoveries made by the “new archaeology” discredited a great exodus in the 13th century BC. Moses could not have led the Hebrews out of Egypt into the Promised Land, for the good reason that the latter was Egyptian territory at the time. And there is no trace of either a slave revolt against the pharaonic empire or of a sudden conquest of Canaan by outsiders.
Modern archaeology suggests that the Exodus actually happened to the Hyksos, not the Hebrews, so claiming descent from Moses really doesn’t mean that much since he seems to have stolen all the stories he wrote down (like the story of the flood copied from the Epic of Gilgamesh). At best he is a great self-promoter; at worst he was a hoaxer like Oded Golan. Some scholars, such as Sigmund Freud, have pointed out the obvious implausibilities on the Moses story and have sugge3sted that “Moses”, an Egyptian word meaning “Prince” may have been another name for the heretic Pharaoh Akhenaten (Amenhotep IV), and the story of the Exodus a highly romanticized telling of his attempted return from exile, with the usual spin so that failure to reclaim his throne is sold to later generations as a symbolic victory.
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Why would downtrodden slaves “escape” to a PROVINCE of their Master? Palestine/Syria was all subject to Egypt at the time of the exodus. Those were the banished from power worshippers of ATEN that left the center of power for the fringe of the Empire, hoping to someday return to power.
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Moses was “raised” as an Egyptian Prince, because Moses WAS an Egyptian Prince. As a matter of FACT, the “Hebrews” are EGYPTIAN.
The Hebrews, the participants of the fabled Exodus, were EGYPTIAN refugee worshipers of ATEN, the MONOTHEISTIC Egyptian LIGHT God.
After Amenhotep IV aka Akenhaten elevated Aten to THE god of Egypt (THOU SHALT HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME)
the priests of Amon and the lesser gods worked to undermine Aten. Upon the death of Pharoh Akenhaten, the “ONE” god, Aten, was
overthrown. The temples and all trace of Aten were pulled down and erased. The followers of Aten were persecuted and harrassed.
After some years of this, the followers of Aten made an “exodus” (a going out) from Egypt, to the COLONIES of Egypt in Palestine.
NOTE:
Oddly enough, Egypt reached new heights of imperial splendour and prosperity during the New Kingdom (18th – 19th dynasties). Tutmosis III campaigned beyond the EUPHRATES and reached the Fourth Cataract on the Nile; Rameses II halted the advance of the Hittites in SYRIA, which means Egypt marched ALL OVER the so-called Israeli kingdom, because Egypt OWNED PALESTINE.
Jerusalem was ruled by New Kingdom Egypt from 1550-1440 BCE.
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NOTE: It is not called a HOMECOMING or RETURN, as it would have been if the participants were SEMITES originally from Palestine.
They THEMSELVES termed it an EXODUS. [EX out of, from, and HODOS, way]
This is people who WERE Egyptian and LEFT, went OUT OF the center of Egypt.
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The followers of Aten wandered in the desert for years (40?). They assimilated legends, myths, and People, into their Religion and Tribe.
The first generation of refugees passed on, and their religion morphed from a “loving, peace, LIGHT and enlightened god”
to a vengeful, resentful, scab-picking War god.
THIS is why there is NO Egyptian archeological evidence of a Jewish/Semitic presence OR exodus.
The Exodus consisted of EGYPTIANS leaving Egypt in the face of religious persecution that included the complete erasure of the God of the Exodus, ATEN.
How else could one explain what is clearly written in the Bible itself:
For millenia the Jews(Egyptian Refugees) have WAILED about their abject slavery under “Torturous, Inhumane” conditions in Egypt.
Name ONE other “religion” that has a HOLIDAY celebrating the genocide of the CHILDREN of their opponents?
THAT is what “Passover” is. They are celebrating the deaths of the First Born children of the Egyptians.
More then that, they are celebrating revenge on the Worshipers of Aton for overthrowing their god Aten.
Let us take a little look at the abject, “slaves” in Egypt:
How is it that “impoverished, abject slaves” have lambs to slaughter, flocks and herds?
Exodus c.12 v.21
Exodus c.12 v.32&38
Exodus c.35 v.22-23
How is it that “abject impoverished slaves” have neighbors with GOLD and SILVER and JEWELS to LOAN to these “slaves”
Exodus c.3 v.22
Exodus c.11 v.2
Exodus c.12 v.35-36
because the poor persecuted “slaves” were the families of what HAD BEEN the RULING PRIESTS.
The god ATEN was overthrown @ 1240 B.C.
After years of persecution the followers of Aten left Egypt in an EX-HODOS @ 1210 B.C.
you my man are trully a moron !
Did it go something like this: “Congratulations, scientists, you’ve found our bones. We were camels, domesticated camels to be exact. We lived and died sometime between 1100 and 1900 years before Christ. We were the very first camels ever domesticated in present day Israel and Jordan. No camels were domesticated before us. No matter how much you search, you won’t find any “domesticated” camel bones older than ours. Therefore, the Bible, the most widely-read, heavily-scrutinized, historically accurate and revered and only divinely-inspired collection of Scriptures is a pack of lies and you can write that in your report.”
Beautifully put.
Now, at last, the provenance of the humble camel has disproved everything stated in the Bible.
Who would have guessed.
Someone had better tell Pix.
Immediately, if not sooner.
Then there is the problem of what those words really mean in the Bible…
Miss Frances Rolleston managed to write up the Mizraim/ Mazzaroth
by delving her way through the alkhemical meaning of the words in the Bible, which
described the various constellations (meaning those who CAME from there, and are about to return for their ”Second Coming”)
and the word ”camel” means Those Who Come From the direction of the
Camelopardalis (the Anakim)
and the word ”gnat” is another name for the Apis/Wasp/Fly constellation
where the benign greys are camped (such as the mummy found in the tomb
of the Princess of Senusret II) – the two brained J-Rod of Gliese 876C.
All the obsolete names for this area of the sky have for the most part
been dispersed/absorbed/lost into Aries constellation.
You can see how important that area of the sky was simply by looking at the many hieroglyphs of ”Musca” the Fly formerly Apis the Bee, Vespa the Wasp formerly the Gnat…
The premise of this article is that the Bible was assembled after the show was over – and it was, in 325 A.D. It was ”edited” to suit the crowd which envisaged control of humanity…
The final problem is the missing 324 years which king Otto removed in 675 A.D., additional to
C14 dating being up to 700 years ”out” (the very reason the Shroud of Turin is real)
Hi Hiddentextor,
Can you explain more about this part?
“The final problem is the missing 324 years which king Otto removed in 675 A.D., additional to
C14 dating being up to 700 years ”out” (the very reason the Shroud of Turin is real)”
These are yet more lies from Satan that are designed to deceive. I will also reject this new doctrine from the priesthood of the Science Religion. We are all sinners, but God’s only Son, Jesus Christ, gave His life as full payment for our sins on the cross, was buried three days and then resurrected.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen. 1 Timothy 6:20-21
Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid. Isaiah 29:14
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: 1 Peter 5:8
what all you guys don’t want to face is the fact that Jewish, Christian and Muslim religion is all false. Religion is just a tool to control people. It’s the best tool because individuals are will to kill and be killed.
Moses plagiarist everything from the Seminarian texts to create his own empire. Jesus was a creation of the Romans to replace an israel god fighting Rome with a god friendly to Rome, combating and idea with an idea in first century. Muhammad’s words have been twisted to serve the individual leader’s needs.
They all have a rule book to follow. Really, do you really need a book to tell you what is right? It’s already in you to know the difference.
Actually Jesus is mentioned by a Jewish scholar named Josephus about 50 to 60 years after the events depicted in the bible & he was not a Roman, but a Jew. He was the general of the Jewish forces in Galilee during the 1st Jewish rebellion against the Romans. Mohamed’s words are not “twisted” by others but are his words & his beliefs that all should be put to the sword that do not follow his death cult. So most of your bogus hypothesis is just that “bogus” & shows a total ignorance of history!
Yep, these scientist were there, they should know. Oh wait, they were not there, they are only guessing.
How the hell can they say with a straight face that they KNOW the exact date camels arrived anywhere?
That is like saying, I know when the first squirrel arrived in Arkansas.
The article says, “The few camel bones found in earlier archaeological layers probably belonged to wild camels, which archaeologists think were in the southern Levant from the Neolithic period or even earlier.”
PROBABLY??? And you know this because it does not fit your hypothesis?
Time and time again, “scientist” have been humbled when Biblical stories have been proven to be true when the “scientist” claim them to be false.
This will be no different.
I allways am curious about these guys and thier findings. My first thoughts on this were that we know man existed and was moving about. We know of Spartans, Greecians, Egyptians etc. We know about guys riding horses, and donkeys, even elephants, all at earlier times in history. But now these “scientists” want you to believe that people using all those other critters were too dumb to recognize the camel, especially in the desert.
Feck, is “Historicity” even a word???