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Swiss Balloonist Who Witnessed the Flat Earth in 1931 -- True Story

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[GeoShifter] Auguste Piccard was a professor at the university in Brussels. He became famous with his high altitude balloon flights in the 1930′s. Later he made submarines to explore the depths of the oceans. 

[Wikipedia]  On May 27, 1931, Auguste Piccard and Paul Kipfer took off from Augsburg, Germany, and reached a record altitude of 15,781 m (51,775 ft). (FAI Record File Number 10634) During this flight, Piccard was able to gather substantial data on the upper atmosphere, as well as measure cosmic rays. On 18 August 1932, launched from Dübendorf, Switzerland, Piccard and Max Cosyns made a second record-breaking ascent to 16,201 m (53,153 ft). (FAI Record File Number 6590) He ultimately made a total of twenty-seven balloon flights, setting a final record of 23,000 m (75,459 ft).

Before NASA was Created

What is interesting to note that is this Swiss explorer took this flight into space before the creation of NASA and therefore before the Photoshopping crew and the Truth Handlers were able to scrub clean history and remove any evidence on the shape of the Earth. Very interesting new data to add to the mounting evidence of lies related to the Round Earth “Blue Marble” Theory.

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The Law of Reversal

Remember if Hollywood is the public announcement agency of the Government and it is used to set the narrative for the public just as news is entertainment and what we see as entertainment [films, movies, music videos] are actually the real news in disguise. It is the law of reversal. What is down is up and what is up is down in the Black Magical view of the world from the perspective of the Wizards and Witches of Hollywood.

As above so below was the motto of the Freemasons and that is what they are showing us and telling us now hidden in plain view with their code using “entertainment” disguised as “the real news”.

Now here is another angle to the entire Flat Earth Movement that has to do with what is above the Firmament and in Space. It is similar to the scene from the movie Dark City when the Hero breaks through the wall and looks into the other side as the “Police Investigator” is sucked out into orbit.

The State of Water

We have wondered about this idea of the the Firmament and the Space being Water. The first reaction of most will be laughter or shock or bewilderment, but hold on to your horses and your horsepower just a second. Give the theory a chance. Consider that matter exists in 18 states yes in 18 different forms.

[Wikipedia] Classically, states of matter are distinguished by changes in specific heat capacity, pressure and temperature. States are distinguished by a discontinuity in one of those properties: for example, raising the temperature of ice produces a clear discontinuity at 0 °C as energy goes into phase transition, instead of temperature increase. In the 20th century, increased understanding of the more exotic properties of matter has resulted in many additional states of matter, none of which are observed in normal conditions.

If Water is the building block of all life and creation then why would it not exist in all 18 states especially if we are relying on NASA or the NSA or the other NAZI organizations for truth? How many of us have gone into outer space to test these modern conditions referenced by Wikipedia?

So another mystery on top of the already mysterious Flat Earth Movement. We all need a trip to Shell Beach one day. Even the Discovery Channel considering the nature of the Universe and whether if it could be all Liquid as in Water.

Another view of the Flat Earth Edge of Space;

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    • The Thinning Veil Report


      i just posted about piccard too. the ball brainwashing is severe, as will be seen in comments, i’m sure.
      good post.

      • Ambicatus

        hey idiot. lets do an experiment, im in south africa, and i got a EVIL green laser, can shine on the frikken moon, and, right now, im at 1600m above sea level, why, if i shine my laser round an round, horizontally, why does it go thru atmosphere . look. go to 1600 up,. stand there, i shine my laser at you, in the fekkin eye, if you “see” it erth round.

        dude i aint evn played league today, too many rad articles THANK YOU UNLE JON FOR TOO MUCH INTERNET HAHAHA YOU GET PHATTREASURE! MWHAHAHAA TROLLIN LIKE A BOSS and i aint even started, did you know…

        THESE PEOPLE HATE FLAT EARTHERS. gaylord bru, they ALL gaylords. be they sunday xtian or hippy, if you think earth is flat, YOUR A GAYLORD.

        AND WE WILL ASK:

        • Black Humor

          Respiratory equipment in thirty’es were not exactly state of the art. Oxygen deprivation causes hallucinations and if prolonged brain damage. Makes you wonder what’s the excuse of our contemporary flat heads. :wink:

          • PaulTarsuss

            It’s simple really. Largely, the resurgence in flat earth crapola is to help more easily identify and classify those pseudo intellectual dilettentes that remain outside the current collegiate cranial corrals, so they too can be further capitalized upon.

            Clever. Not too bright.

            But clever!

      • HypothesisFree

        Under the flat earth model, what we would expect to see at dusk is the sun disappearing into COMPLETE darkness well above the horizon (combined with a slight reduction in the perceived size of the sun). However, this notion of a flat earth is COMPLETELY debunked by simply observing a bright sunset event over the oceans horizon. Not only does the BRIGHT sun appear to come into contact with the oceans horizon (which in and of itself is sufficient to dispel the flat earth theory already), the sun also completely disappears below the oceans horizon (with no perceived reduction in the sun’s size).

        Never mind how a partial lunar eclipse clearly shows the round curvature of the earth’s shadow upon the moon.

        The only question left in my mind is: “Why has there been an organized effort (assumed to be led by the Rothschild Zionist fake Jews) to fiercely push this bunk theory on the public for years on end”?

        From blogger lucid_ity:

        There are so many ways to disprove flat earth.

        Here’s one:

        Why, when the sun is at the horizon in one location, does the sun appear to be directly overhead in another location, exactly where round earth models predict?

        For example, look at webcams in Europe to see the sun setting. Then look overhead in the US. How do you explain that with a flat earth model? Then there’s the obvious issue of middle of the day being the middle of the night on the opposite side of the world.

        From blogger Cintus Supremus:

        How about those pesky cyclonic storm systems that rotate in opposite directions north and south of the equator.

        Tis called the CORIOLIS EFFECT. Look it up.

        • Mongoose

          going by your logic the clouds should also disappear high in the sky without ever touching the horizon.

          I think you are intentional making dumb arguments.

          If the earth were a globe rotating on a tilted axis as we have been taught, then from inside of the arctic circle near the outer edge where the sun is visible 24 hours a day in the summer time we should see the suns path as a clockwise rotating oval, not the up and down that is observed.

          The sun supposedly travels east to west across the sky because of the direction of the earth’s rotation. At night in the arctic circle we would be moving in the opposite direction in relation to the sun, so if we could see the sun at night (which we can from inside the arctic circle) then the sun would appear to be traveling the sky from west to east.

          So what we should see if the earth were a globe is the sun traveling from east to west then slowing and lowering and eventually changing direction to form an oval. This is not what we see. So the globe is debunked.
          I will go with what is proven, not what I was told by a bunch of lying freemasons.


          If the earth were a globe aprox. 25,000 miles in circumference, a plane traveling at 300 mph in a straight forward east west trajectory at the equator would be gaining altitude at a rate of 8” x 300m x 300m = 6000 ft. an hour = 1.14 miles an hour = 100 ft. a minute = 1.67 ft. per second.

          This rate would increase exponentially the further north or south you get away from the equator due to the smaller circumference of the globe earth near the poles when traveling in a strictly east to west direction.

          So unless pilots are constantly adjusting for curvature and pointing the nose slightly downward in order to compensate (which they aren’t because the earth is flat) they would be constantly gaining altitude.

          If we were on a spinning globe then people in north America should be being pulled slightly southward (northward in Australia) by the centrifugal force which would be pulling us outward at a 90 degree angle from the axis of rotation which from our perspective would be slightly south. We would always be a little of balance.

          This force should be easily detected and measured if it existed but it isn’t and it hasn’t because it doesn’t exist.

          Lunar eclipses sometimes happen when the sun and moon are both visible in the sky, this proves that it is not the earth’s shadow causing the eclipses.

          If we were on a spinning ball orbiting the sun that is orbiting the galactic center that is traveling through space at high speed, (which is not a uniform motion) we would be constantly changing direction, speeding up and slowing down and it would be noticeable.

          Not to mention that the constellations could not have remained the same for thousands of years in that scenario and that the stars closest to us should appear to be passing by faster than the ones that are supposedly billions of light years away just as a nearby tree appears to pass by much quicker then one in the distance when travelling the highway instead of them all appearing to move at the same speed regaurdless of supposed distance.

          • The Thinning Veil Report

            these globe pushers do not understand logic and reason.
            you make excellent points.
            their egos prevent them from advancing spiritually or intellectually.

            not enough hugs as a kid is my guess.

            • Real Expert

              Actually, had lots of education as kids, and paid
              attention as kids, in science class. Our parents gave
              us hugs when we aced the tests! Seems like some
              people dropped the ball when in school. Our parents
              were very intelligent people.. Yours? Not so much.
              If my child grew up thinking the earth was flat,
              I’d put that child in an asylum where they belong!

            • No time

              Polaris, remains at the same angle in the sky, year round from where I live, which proves to me that the Earth does not tilt. If the Earth does not tilt, then part of what they taught me in school is a lie.

          • Knarlydawg

            Provide evidence to substantiate your claims and assertions.

            a) give examples to substantiate your claim about the aircraft.

            b) show examples of lunar eclipses happening while the sun and moon are visible in the same sky and explain why this proves your assertion.

            c) show some examples of storm flows “not” conforming to the Coriolis affect, as you claim to have observed in other BIN article comments.

            d) also stated by you in previous BIN article comments about Scripture (Isaiah 40:42), H2329 circle, circuit , compass as being some kind of biblical proof of the flat earth……..well you failed to include some information from a little farther down the page that says…….” Gesenius’ Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon חוּג m. a circle, SPHERE, used of the arch or vault of the sky, Prov. 8:27; Job 22: 14; of the world, Isa. 40:22.”……. and.. חוּגchûwg, khoog; from H2328; a circle:—circle, circuit, compass. Outline of Biblical Usage [?] to encircle, encompass, describe a circle, draw round, make a circle. (Qal) to encircle, encompass …..Synonyms for encompass….envelop, encircle, enclose, environ……all could easily be pertaining to a globe or sphere.











            More vids to examine:





          • Nanar

            “going by your logic the clouds should also disappear high in the sky without ever touching the horizon.”

            :!: Actually no, gravity force > Coriolis effect. would it be otherwise, we would all be floating in space and pie in our faces.

            ” At night in the arctic circle we would be moving in the opposite direction in relation to the sun, so if we could see the sun at night (which we can from inside the arctic circle) then the sun would appear to be traveling the sky from west to east.”

            :!: no, sorry. the globe is rotating as one. However, yes, rotation speed is less at the poles then at the equator. This also work on a 2D model. Take a vinyl and check it out.

            Airplanes : no.
            :!: Planes are under the influence of gravity. They do not have the technical ability to escape gravity. the plane doesn’t do a straight line from point A to B. It’s more of an arc.
            Gravity applies even from very far. It’s not because your are airborn that you suddenly escape gravity.

            “If we were on a spinning globe then people in north America should be being pulled slightly southward (northward in Australia) by the centrifugal force which ”
            :!: What your are describing is the effort that you have to make while making an ascension on a slope. It’s kinetic energy 101 angular momentum.
            On a fast spinning globe, you will be pulled upwards towards the sky and not north and south.

            “Lunar eclipses sometimes happen when the sun and moon are both visible in the sky, this proves that it is not the earth’s shadow causing the eclipses.”

            :!: Yes, this called a solar eclipse : sun moon earth. There is a very interesting principle on the “flat” alignment of planets moon or satellites that we don’t really understand yet (the reason why). Probably because an equatorial ellipse requires less energy…

            “If we were on a spinning ball orbiting the sun that is orbiting the galactic center that is traveling through space at high speed, (which is not a uniform motion) we would be constantly changing direction, speeding up and slowing down and it would be noticeable.”

            :!: I don’t think you realize the power needed to change the rotation / momentum of a galaxy. On such scales, we would need a massive event to “notice” changes in course, rotation, slowing up or down during a life time.
            It would also probably mean that we would all be dead.
            At the moment, we are heading on a collision with the Andromeda galaxy… It will happen in 2.5 billion years or so.

            “Not to mention that the constellations could not have remained the same for thousands of years in that scenario and that the stars closest to us should appear to be passing by faster than the ones that are supposedly billions of light years away”

            You are comparing a few meters with a a few billions UA. Its not the same.
            you do not see instantly what is happening that far. The light of distant sun/stars/galaxy reaching us can be billion years old. We are only seeing an image from the past.
            1- Plus, the stars caught in the Milky Way are also moving with us
            2- Galaxies and stars far away we don’t see them moving because the earth takes a very very very very long time to rotate around the galaxy.
            3- constellation and stars do not have the same position all year long. Sky in north is very different then sky in south. this indicates that it’s earth rotating arount the sun and not vice versa…

            Ps: for number one, on a very dark night, you can see the milky way. You know this milky line in the sky that stretches from one horizon to the next Depending where you are on the globe, it will not have the same orientation.
            would you be on a flat earth, it would be the case.

        • Anonymous

          Here on the coast, when an Airplane flies due East, it appears to get lower and lower in the sky as it heads away from me. It follows exactly like the sun does when it moves away from you. It appears to be getting lower in the sky but in reality,, is only moving away from you at the same altitude that it always was.

      • jknbt

        anti-scientific garbage….the earth is a globe

        see the PBS series Genius with Steven Hawing…look at episode 6…they prove the curvature of the earth with a laser and a ruler by shining a laser out over a calm lake in arizona…they have clear line of sight for six miles…this simple experiment can be repeated anywhere there is a clear seeing line of sight view down a river or a lake. see:

        repeat the experiment for yourself if you don’t believe the video…all you need is a laser, a tape measure, and a bubble level to level the laser.

        • The Thinning Veil Report

          YOU FIRST.

        • Real Expert

          You forget that flat earther’s don’t believe in lasers. NASA uses them,
          so they don’t believe them. They are lying little pieces made by Satan.
          A bubble measure? C’mon, bubbles in those almost look like spheres,
          so count those out (even if they knew what one looked like)..
          A tape measure may be okay though. I just am not sure about
          their ability to perform an experiment. They would have to actually
          have to interpret data at the end, and that, they can’t do..

        • Mongoose

          Many experiments have been done that prove that there is no curvature. The Bedford level experiment measured no curvature over a 6 mile distance.

          Of course that was not on T.V. so you probably won’t believe it.

          • Knarlydawg

            This is an actual duplication of the Bedford level experiment and it is proof positive and easily repeatable evidence of earth curvature.

            Slam dunk, flat earth paradigm shattering proof.


            :eek: :eek: :eek: :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

        • Mongoose

          Many experiments have been done that prove that there is no curvature. The Bedford level experiment measured no curvature over a 6 mile distance.

          Of course that was not on T.V. so you probably won’t believe it.

        • Anonymous

          Yeah Steven Hawking who has set a world record for surviving ALS for 50 years when everyone else is dead within a few years. Even his suit has survived all these years. Do all the other Fairy Tales still work for you too?

    • 2QIK4U

      First sign of a Fake story is someone telling you it’s True. Never trust anyone who say’s trust me. Its good to see BINNED keeping up with the Comedy articles as always, same old lies and false headlines :lol:

      • The Thinning Veil Report


        • 2QIK4U

          Like you telling me the Earth globe is a lie? Exactly :lol:

          • 2QIK4U

            C ya have fun in flathead land :idea:

            • 2QIK4U

              We are borg. We are on a cube. Assimilate or Perish. :mrgreen:

          • The Thinning Veil Report


            check out carolannej2″s yt channel.

            maybe she can help you.

      • ElOregonian

        Yup. 100′s of thousands of commercial pilots throughout all these many decades, I mean even commercial pilot family-members, both militarily and civilian, for the past 60+ years, and not a word of a “Flat earth” from them… I mean, not even a peep from any of them!

        Besides, I should like to examine this claim and two passages from Scripture on which it is based, using a sample of creationist literature. First, Eastman’s article states:

        Despite contrary assertions, the fact of a spherical earth was clearly proclaimed in the Bible by the prophet Isaiah nearly twenty-eight centuries ago … “It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers [etc.]” Isaiah 40:22 (NKJ). When Isaiah wrote this verse he used the Hebrew word “khug” to describe the shape of the earth. Although this word is commonly translated into the English word “circle,” the literal meaning of this word is “a sphere.

        The Bible offers an astonishing piece of scientific foreknowledge … While speaking of the incredible power of God, Job states of the earth [26:7]: “He stretches out the north over empty space; He hangs the earth on nothing” (NKJ). When we consider that twenty-eight centuries ago the prevailing view of the earth was that it was flat and resting on the back of an animal or Greek god, the biblical view of a spherical earth suspended on nothing is astonishing.

        It goes on to assert that the Bible exhibits knowledge about the earth and the universe “that appears to have come from a being with an extraterrestrial perspective.

        Isaiah 40:22 refers to “the circle of the earth,” or in the Italian translation, globo. The Hebrew is Khug = sphericity or roundness. Even if the translation “circle” is adhered to, think about Neil Armstrong in space–to him the spherical earth would have appeared circular regardless of which direction he viewed it from.

        And goes on to claim that Luke 17:34-36 implies that Jesus knew the earth was spherical, and cites research establishing that “nearly all Christian scholars [since the fifth century AD] who have ever discussed the earth’s shape have assented to its roundness.

        This claim is also made by one of the most authoritative voices in the young earth creationist movement, Henry M. Morris, whose works are often cited when writing on Creationism. In Biblical Creationism: What Each Book of the Bible Teaches about Creation and the Flood, Morris asserts that khug in Isa. 40:22 means “sphericity, … thus both earth and the deep are components of the great terrestrial sphere …,”7 and in The Remarkable Record of Job, he claims that Job 26:7 teaches that the earth is a sphere held by the force of gravity in space, and adds, with reference to Job 26:10, “The word compassed (Hebrew khug) means to be made spherical, referring to the shape of the earth, especially to its sea level, the basic datum for earth’s geometry.

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          • ElOregonian

            When I look at the other planets through a telescope, and the moon through a telescope or even a high-powered set of binoculars shows me the curvature of the moon and planets shows me that these are all spheres, why would this planet be any different? Your daft, man.

            • Cintus Supremus

              He already answered that on another page.

              Because skyscrapers.

              So there.

              That’ll learn ya.

            • Mongoose

              This one is full of life, why would the other ones be any different? Man you are daft.

              There is no such thing as a planet. What we live on is not like the moon or any of the stars, even the ones that wander.

              The shills really hate this topic, as do the religiously indoctrinated fools that worship at the alter of so called science.

            • Cintus Supremus

              I guess you rest your case then, eh Mongoose.

              That it rests on nothing but vain opinion doesn’t bother you in the slightest. Does it.

            • The Clucker

              “There is no such thing as a planet.”

              “Never go full retard.”

          • Real Expert

            Everytime you go film something, do you do a 360 degree pan?
            They didn’t have your skepticism in mind when they were
            taking pictures.

            • The Thinning Veil Report


              COME ON NOW.

              DON’T BE FOOLISH.

      • Ambicatus

        Agreed. the people that believe flat earth, can only see, spiritually, 2D. FLAT. a nice mental cave, to flee from truth, “o none of that stuff is real, earth is flat, im fine” its self deluding lemming behaviour, the horror of reality has become so great, they gone full retard

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          • Anonymous



            TRY TO STOP LYING, VEIL.

            PUT UP OR SHUT UP, VEIL.

            why don’t you show us some photos of the edge of your flat earth, VEIL.

            C’mon, boy, you can do it.. can’t you? Howzabout just one..


    • Judge Roy Bean

      Yeah, he woke up early in the morning and ate 7 stacks of flat jacks the up into the sky blue yonder where his flalt jacks gave him a terrible flat earth indigestion.

    • wiseoldlady

      Get off this flat earth delusion…!!!! You see the sun is ROUND….you see the moon is ROUND….you see the other planets via telescope are ROUND. We have satellites orbiting the earth…thousands of pilots fly daily….tens of thousands of passengers fly daily….they see a ROUND earth. Fisherman see the contour of the ROUND earth. Go to the top floor of a skyscraper and you can see the contour of the ROUND earth. How is it possible for the sun to rise in the east if the earth is flat…it CAN’T!!!! How is it possible to have different seasons via north of or south of the equator due to the SLANT of the earth….couldn’t if flat. Not one ounce of logic in a flat earth theory.

      • Ambicatus

        your right ma’am, the whole theory is a terrible insult to my Nordic ancestry, i got many a tale an edda aboot how many of us died sailing round an round, i mean, im a Nord, but im in south africa, now, if it were flat, is should not even exist, but here i am. and im not from here not by long shot.

      • Mot

        Show me PROOF of just ONE satellite in ANY of NASA’s videos. Send me your Paypal account and I will pay you $100.00 per satellite. CGI’s don’t count. The Earth is also round just like the moon, sun, etc… but where you fail is that it’s FLAT and round. Weird how when I look through a telescope it’s NOTHING like what NASA ( never a straight answer ) has shown us.

        • Anonymous

          “..FLAT and round.”

          Hey! are you referring to my buckyball earth model?

          haha.. the pristine buckminsterfullerene globe scene.

          flat and round, heh

        • Real Expert

          I would say, why not go outside tonight and watch the satellites go
          over yourself? I have done this hundreds of times. I can do it on any
          night with clear skies, and just a bit after sunset! So if I can, why can’t
          you? Oh yeah, they don’t exist to you, I almost forgot! I seriously
          doubt that you would know one if you saw one either.. Being that
          brain dead, I KNOW you wouldn’t know one if you saw one.

          • truthlovingsoul


            if planes look like tiny ants at a few miles up, what makes you think you could see a tiny satellite at 100 miles up.

            please think about this.

            yes, i have seen those fast moving lights in the sky, but they are not satellites, they could not be. what are they? have no idea.

            critical thinking skills are much needed when thinking about the veracity of what they are telling us in regards to the space program.

            • Syco247

              Telescope, dingus. Orion 16 inch scope can see mighty small objects at incredible distance.

      • Mongoose

        That is some stupid stuff right there dude.

        • The Clucker

          Coming from a guy that said up above in the comments that there is no such thing as a planet…


    • Anonymous

      haha.. very odd praise for DaSkareKrow in the Piccard vid, @ 2:54

      “intersting videos” ok

      “good music” ok

      “famous rapist (soon)” Say What?

    • my2pesos

      Can east, meet west, on a round world?
      Psalm 103:12 – (As far as the east is from the west) – (So far has he removed our transgressions from us.)
      Isaiah 43:25 – (I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake) – (and will not remember thy sins.)

      • my2pesos

        Gods of Egypt – 2016 (A Movie)
        There is a scene where ‘Ra’ pulls the sun on a long chain straight over the top of a high ledge (edge) or wall to begin the day.

    • Jerk Turkey

      Glad to see the flat brain trolls online. Trying to set humanity back another thousand years with ignorance.

    • my2pesos

      My brother is a staunch flat-earth point of viewer.. He’s been advocating it for a couple of years now.
      I’ve been telling him, when I’m at the beach, I naturally see a roundness to the ocean’s horizon.
      Recently however, I made a conscious effort, to view the ocean’s horizon as being flat.
      Well lo and behold! If that is what you are looking, for it will come into focus that way also.

      • Anonymous

        nice particle/wave observation.

        But you may want to inform your brother that under a flat earth model, there is no such thing as a “horizon”.
        Yet, I bet you actually do see one.. we all do. How can that be? Because horizon lines are the extent of our viewing capacity on a spherical surface.

        If earth were flat, you would see the edge with high powered viewing assistance.. telescope, binocs, or in Veil’s case, periscope.
        None of us have ever seen the edge, even though many here walk it.. hah.. and fallen off.

        • Mongoose

          It’s not a horizon it is a vanishing point.

          • Anonymous

            haha… you need to learn some perspective. a vanshing point is a singular point within a perceived horizon in a two dimensional image.. pretty much the scope of a Flatlander.

            Amusing at first, but this is really tiresome. YAWN.


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          • Anonymous


            Wrong again veil.

            1540-50; < Latin horizōn < Greek horízōn (kýklos) bounding (circle), equivalent to horíz (ein) to bound, limit + -ōn present participle suffix (nominative singular); replacing Middle English orizonte < Middle French < Latin horizontem, accusative of horizōn

          • Anonymous

            Veil, Where do you get this stuff, anyway? here again, the origin of “horizon”Word

            Origin and History for horizon
            late 14c., orisoun, from Old French orizon (14c., Modern French horizon), earlier orizonte (13c.), from Latin horizontem (nominative horizon), from Greek horizon kyklos “bounding circle,” from horizein “bound, limit, divide, separate,” from horos “boundary.” The h- was restored 17c. in imitation of Latin.

            • Real Expert

              Veil gets his stuff from the Veil Encyclopedia.
              It is half a page long and is written in all CAPS.

      • Mongoose

        How about you try this, take a picture of the horizon and then display it on a large screen and then take a yard stick or some kind of straight edge or even a tout piece of string and hold it against the screen to see for yourself if there is any measurable curvature.

        There is not, not even in photos (real ones taken with normal lenses, not nasas’) taken from 120,000 feet.

        • Cintus Supremus

          So help me I don’t know why I bother. But here goes:

          Thought Experiment # 3,592,558

          Imagine a bowling ball. Now imagine you are shrunk down to 1/2 the size of a flea and you are placed atop the bowling ball — which we all KNOW is a sphere.

          Now as you stand atop the bowling ball, you will see all around you in 360 degrees, what appears to be a PERFECTLY FLAT LINE describing the HORIZON of the ball — that is, the very outer edge of the ball’s surface, which you can see, in all directions.

          No discernible curve.

          The horizon would appear PERFECTLY FLAT.

          Because it has to.

          Because it extends the exact same distance from you as the center point, in all directions. It is not possible that you would detect any curvature whatsoever.

          This is MOST BASIC geometry.

          Curvature would NEVER become detectable by eye unless you (the half flea) ascended to a very significant height above the surface of the bowling ball.

          Here endeth the experiment.

          Can we all go home now?

        • Real Expert

          This shows just how small these people think the earth is..
          Of course it would not show much of a curve or hardly any in
          a photograph. The earth is not that tiny. If it did show a curve
          in a simple photo of the horizon, it would mean the earth would
          have to be a couple of hundred miles in diameter! Please tell
          me you aren’t really that stupid please… Even my cat knows
          better than that.. How foolish can you possibly be? Are you
          really serious?

          • Mongoose

            I was responding to someone who claims they can see the curvature at the beach genius.

            • Cintus Supremus

              Whereas I was responding to everyone with a congenital inability to comprehend their environment.

            • Real Expert

              You are right, I am a genius! I have been one since
              I was a child. Now I am older and even wiser than
              I was back then!

              By the way, can you please answer a question for
              me Mongoose?

              How far above the face of your flat earth is the sun?
              And could you please demonstrate for us how the
              sun can possibly SET, over the horizon in your model?
              I have tried with all of my genius abilities, to demonstrate
              how it could set, in a flat earth model, and I just can’t
              get that bugger to go down over the horizon on my
              flat plane model. Can you explain how that works?
              Please make it believable, and don’t forget, you are
              dealing with a genius here. And if you use your
              Vanishing point argument, let me know exactly how
              far (in miles) does this “vanishing point” take place?

              So, if a vanishing point, it just appears to duck down
              over the horizon? I have tried and tried to use models
              to make the sun go down below the horizon but yet
              stay up in the sky for the other parts of the flat disc
              to have their daylight, and i just can’t get it to sink
              like it does.. Sure hope you can help me out here.

            • Nanar

              The sun doesn’t set, the CIA/NASA/ESA/NSA/Obama/aliens/illuminati/free masons/hollywood turns off the lights in the evening and the whole worlds goes darks.

              Then they turn on the moon so that we are no afraid of the shadows for our nightnight beauty sleep.

              We are all living in the truman show

          • Anonymous

            good quote by white rabbit in this vid:

            “..these flat earthers are not truthers. They do not value truth. They do not want the truth. They are only concerned with pushing a narrative.”

            oh hell yeah, Knarlydawg!

            Flat earthers have either been duped into advancing the weakest of psy-ops, or are actively and knowingly engaged in attempting to destroy the truth by way of a ridiculous agenda that only the most gullible would follow.

            ..just a ship of fools teetering on the edge.. and then.. gone.


            • The Clucker

              I can’t guarantee for certain, Mr. RAIN, as I’d have to check back at his previous articles more…

              but as far as I can recall “Knarlydawg” is one of the very few contributors here that is still legitimate and fighting the good fight. You can certainly see that.

            • Knarlydawg

              Oh,……. here’s more curvature proof and explanation of the flat earth psyop.




              Thanks Rain & Clucker.

              I am only after the truth and I’m fed up and sick of all the Bovine Excrement being slung around. I may not get it right all the time but I’m trying.

              P.S. Thinning Veil Report had me blocked for TOS violations because he couldn’t rebut the material I’ve been challenging his articles with. Sorry Veil I’m back…..editors decided there were no violations apparently.

            • Anonymous

              Knarlydawg.. yeah I don’t know you but I do like where you’re coming from and an endorsement from Cluck says it all.

              .. the truth – that’s the end game here, ain’t it?


      Monkey butt.

    • Anonymous

      Swiss Balloonist Who Witnessed the Flat Earth in 1931 — True Story paraphrase the one called Mitch:


      - True Story.. yep, as reported in Popular Science, august 1931, page 23..

      hinged by this statement – “It seemed a flat disk with upturned edge.”

      - The impression made upon Piccard at ten miles in the air, not unlike the view i have had at about seven miles high, cruising in airplanes. But I, as did Piccard, or most anyone not duped by all this crap, observe the fact that looking across and downward at the surface of a very large sphere creates the illusion of “flatness”, while the horizon appears at times to have an “edge” caused by either atmosphere, or mountain ranges.

      “SEEMED” – is the telltale expression of an observable illusion – now, unhinged. heh.

      I mean c’mon, think. Do people assume that at ten miles high they would get a complete view of earth? Maybe so, as proven by a TV liquor commercial. heh….. aw jeez…..

      ..and so, the first part of the title of this article, “witnessed the flat earth” is an absurd lie, deceptively given credence by the following phrase, True Story and yet, the two parts of this headline are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.

      Silly rabbit.

    • Marks

      Ok, here’s a simple experiment most can do to prove the earth is round. To do this, you need a laser or telescope and a small boat. Stand on shore and shine a leveled laser or site the telescope to a board stood up in the boat. Take the boat out a mile or so and do the same. Keep the laser leveled and look at the spot on the laser hits on board. It always goes up the board because of the curvature of the earth. Take the boat out further and the spot the laser hits goes up more and more eventually right over the board itself. Draw this on paper and you will find that the only way it can happen (assuming the water is level) is that the earth curves.

      • Cintus Supremus

        Yes Marks.

        But you neglected to tell Thinning Veil and Mongoose not to perform the experiment using a rowboat on the Pacific Ocean in the middle of a Category Four Hurricane.

        You have to be very specific with this lot.

        Also, please warn the children never to stare directly at the laser beam.

        • The Clucker

          To correct your first sentence, Cintus, please remove the bolded word not.

          • Real Expert

            Good one Clucker! My thoughts exactly!

    • my2pesos

      Green House ~ Generous He
      Earth He ~ Heather*
      The Ericaceae* contain a morphologically diverse range of taxa, including herbs, dwarf shrubs, shrubs, and trees.
      Their flowers are hermaphrodite, and show considerable variability.
      The petals are often fused ranging in shaped from narrowly tubular to funnleform or widely bowl shaped.

    • DavId Montayne

      Baloons have more branes then flat erthers. Idoits.

      • David Mushbraine

        but if bulloons haff braines than why did mom pop all my bulloons wen i been bad? is mom a merderer? she woodent kill even a bug. i wull show her. :mad:

        • The Thinning Veil Report





          THE JIG IS UP.

          • The Clucker

            Cintus rattled you so bad that you have to bring false accusations to the table. Nuff said.

            The jig is up for you and your flat Earth psy-op. I sure hope the boss isn’t too upset. Good luck defending psy-ops put forth by the zionist jews.

    • Anonymous

      Flat Earth Debunked: A time lapse of the 24 hour sun in Antarctica

      • The Clucker

        Good work, RAIN. Nothing about this FET makes any sense to a logically thinking human. That is the problem with it. Thanks for the link.

    • Nanar

      Hum… Space is liquid…
      Actually, the current theory is that space/time behaves as a hyper liquid.

      space/time hyper liquid is very different then space is a liquid.

      quoting religious reference on science, you should quote Platon and the Atom instead.

      In any case, lets assume space is a liquid, then if you dropped condensed matter inside that would have a “middle” buoyancy compared to its environment, then it would form a sphere…

      thus, I give you the Lava lamps, big big art-deco topic of the 60′end based on this principle (along with the fact that oil and water don’t mix well)

      On a very long scale, even solid matters behave like liquids because a sphere is the most stable form on an energetic level (very very vulgar explanation). Given enough time, any solid object will take a spheroidal form.

      • Anonymous

        hey now, yer blinding them wit science.. they already be deaf.. Dumb..

        but what i wanna know is.. you got some toke to go with that lava lamp?

        boom laka laka laka boom…

        • Nanar

          Ma bad ! here, have a wiz ! :lol:

          I was just thinking of explaining a few bits here and there with my little understanding of physics. Instead of cracking insults. Trying to be constructive, less fun though but more productive ethically speaking.

          • Anonymous

            heh.. yes i see where you’re coming from. I do the same, others do as well.. and it’s always good to exchange accurate information.. but then to be constantly bumping against “the ice wall” of deception and propaganda gets old really fast and taking things in a different direction, at times, seems to be the only refuge from insanity.

            Who knew sheer stupidity and ignorance could be so formidable? hah..

            Which reminds me, I forgot to provide an explanation for the term “mutually exclusive” for the spherically challenged, earlier on in this thread, seeing that an understanding of such terminology proves elusive to a flattened head. So….


            In logic, two mutually exclusive propositions are propositions that logically cannot be true in the same sense at the same time. To say that more than two propositions are mutually exclusive, depending on context, means that one cannot be true if the other one is true, or at least one of them cannot be true.

            oh.. but that definition , although understood by people such as you, me, and any other reasonably astute person, most likely soars above and beyond anything flat. I’ll try again:

            Simple Definition of mutually exclusive
            : related in such a way that each thing makes the other thing impossible : not able to be true at the same time or to exist together

            Crap, still a little too “elevated”.. hmm.. how can i put this….

            Uh,, does anyone here who isn’t a flatlander speak “Stupid”?.. I need a translator..

            • Nanar

              Haaaa… In this creation nothing is impossible just improbable. Give it enough iterations and the improbable will happen.

              I really don’t come here to learn science stuff though I did discover some good stuff on BIN like Klaus Dona, Michael Tellinger (though he is starting to phase out sometimes and should stick to his fascinating research) and Dr. Greer even if for him I still don’t know if he is a fraud or being abused.

              Unfortunate, since mainstream science is becoming quite limited in its dogma, only sites like BIN publish this kind of stuff.

              A very good example is the topic of the memory of water: the french dude who came up with this theory (but others before him also giving holistic medicine like homeopathy) was bashed down by his pairs for his research and saw his career destroyed (same for Jean-Pierre Petit – but his character must also have something to do with it).
              Thus, Dr. Montagnier (The doc who found the aids virus) proved with a very simple experiment that yes, water can have memory.
              Fascinating protocol with sooo much medical potential yet nobody cares because medication and treatment would become super cheap…

    • wreakhavoc

      I always thought that one day we would go back in evolution back to medieval times again, in how we think.
      But then I realize that we never left the stage in the first place. :sad:

    • unidentified

      not sure if this is relevant or true however there have been ancient reports/legends/stories online about how the earth stopped spinning for some time and then started spinning in the opposite direction, the sun rising from the west etc as if the planet was an intelligently designed machine, that would really be something else

    • goastdale

      #1 The thief-baptism-grace& the name-Lord & LT

      “whosoever shall call on THE NAME OF THE LORD shall be saved”.…….So WHAT “NAME” did you “CALL UPON”?……
      Rev 19:13. .. and HIS NAME IS called THE WORD OF GOD
      Ps 138:2. praise THY NAME … for thou hast magnified THY WORD ABOVE ALL THY NAME
      Isaiah 52:1. . 6. Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW MY NAME: ..What NAME do you “KNOW”.?
      1Jn 2:3. And HEREBY WE DO KNOW that we KNOW HIM, if we KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS./
      Titus 1: 16. They profess that THEY KNOW God; but IN WORKS THEY DENY him…
      Rev 3:8 kept MY WORD, and hast not DENIED MY NAME; …
      .Jn 17:6. I have MANIFESTED THY NAME .& they have KEPT THY WORD.;
      THE WORD is THE NAME above every name that saves us 1Pt 3:21

      - If God placed His “THE WORD” ABOVE all of God’s various NAMEs – and Jesus NAME IS called “THE WORD” no other name saves Then it must follow that the MOST important name we should KNOW and CALL UPON is “THE WORD”; . Not the letters that spell the word but the sayings/ doctrine/commands. It does NOT say “thy word is given a name above other names because here THY WORD is identified as the name that is placed above all other names. “AT the name OF JESUS”…..Jesus has a name that belongs to Jesus…just like the name OF GOD means a name that belongs to GOD but it is ridiculous to suggest that the letters G-O-D is that name…likewise it is just as ridiculous to suggest that the name OF JESUS is the letters J-E-S-U-S. Why would anyone think that you could pronounce THE HIGHEST NAME OF GOD letter by letter…. (ie Judges 13:18; 2Cor 12:4 but God’s name is not as great and or “unspeakable )

      Download the full doc

      Also there is this…..I’m not Roman Catholic by any stretch but give credit where credit is due, this guy did do his homework on this issue and his presentation is kinda slow at first but very methodical and sound ..Basically it is an examination of the Reformed theologies (John MacArthur, James White, John Piper, R.C. Sproul, Michael Kruger, Steven Anderson, Charles Stanley et al) uses of Justification (and Forensic Justification) (Regeneration v Justification)

      ……..The ONE baptism(Eph 4:5) is into THE WORD ( which is also baptism in the Holy spirit Jn 6:63the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit ) ..ALL the sayings doctrines and commands….what did THE WORD that became flesh command? (Mat 28:19)…..what did THE WORD exemplify? (Mat 3:15/ Jn 4:1)………among other things…..YES .water baptism is just as essential and necessary for much a part of salvation (1Pt 3:21) as is keeping one self away from works of the flesh (Gal 5:21)…….THE WORD OF GOD is the name of God that men call upon OR…OR ..they DENY with their disobedience

      #2 THE LT & THE BODY OF CHRIST……is it really his body??

      Jn 6:63(words= spirit= life) If you believe that God literally put his spirit into human/physical flesh to die and save man …..Then you have NO EXCUSE for not believing that God literally (JN 6:54-66) puts his spirit into the human/physical bread and wine which literally makes them his body and blood (because the spirit is life and the physical body is the vessel of life) Otherwise if you do not believe it you have NO LIFE in you and should expect to be among those that hear “I NEVER KNEW YOU”(Mat 26:26-29) you have never eaten his body or drank his blood you only ate a symbol of it and as such your salvation is only symbolic NOT real!!

      NOTE: don’t be that one in prov 26:12 over my use of the word “F ool” here prov 18:13 ( ools )…

      Hypocrites you say you believe that the spirit of God is in your physical bodies but turn right around and deny that the spirit of God is in the bread and wine because it is only physical bread and too is your physical bodies!?! The Church is the literal body of Christ because the literal spirit of Christ rest in it as such is the literal body of Christ (the literal vessel for the life which is spirit of Christ)…….. A body is simply a vessel of life/spirit ..God puts his spirit where and how He chooses to do so and as such defines for us what his body is….

      No the bread the wine did not get broken on the cross but NEITHER DID THE CHURCH…His human flesh and the church and the bread and wine are all his body because HE defined them that way LITERALLY put the spirit of Christ the spirit of life in them NOT because you define for God ..But since they are all HIS BODY and some of his body was nailed to a cross then HIS BODY was broken…..every part of of Christ human flesh did not get a nail run through to a wooden cross either…so that mean that his chest was not part of the body that was nailed to the cross for you and me?!?

      If you have no problem understanding that physical act/element of water baptism literally puts you into the spirit of Christ at baptism why then deny that the physical elements of the LT put the spirit of Christ in you!?!…. THE ISSUE In Jn 6 IS NOT THE DEFINITION OF THE LT BUT RATHER THE DEFINITION OF THE LORDS BODY!!!…… 1 cor 11:29. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body

      Jn 6:53. …, Verily, verily, I say unto you, EXCEPT YE EAT THE FLESH OF THE SON OF MAN, AND DRINK HIS BLOOD, YE HAVE NO LIFE IN YOU. (How can you have claim to Eat his flesh if you deny his words which are spirit that is put into the flesh/physical?) ..54. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. (the command is not a eat a symbol but rather THE BODY AND BLOOD ) 55. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. 56. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him. 57. As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me. ..60. …who can hear it? 61…DOTH THIS OFFEND YOU? ( notice Jesus does not say “common guys I’m just speaking symbolically don’t get all worked u over it”, if it were just a symbol then there would be no point to letting anyone think Jesus was speaking literal) 62. What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? 63. It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. 64. But there are some of you that believe not. … 65. And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, EXCEPT IT WERE GIVEN UNTO HIM OF MY FATHER. (notice how this verse is in the “most true Christians go to hell” expose mentioned below) 66. From that time many OF HIS DISCIPLES WENT BACK, AND WALKED NO MORE WITH HIM. 67. Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

      …two points: (1) worthy is defined as discerning the Lord’s body/ understanding/ knowing what the Lord’s body is the fact that the bread and wine are his body and blood…. (2) Those that deny the LT is in Fact the Lord’s body that you are eating and drinking and not just some symbol are literal “GOD DAMNED F OOLS”! That is not a curse upon you nor is it a wish for anyone it is simply a statement of fact about your condition…better wake up least your “piety” make you that one in prov 26:12

      Luk 14: 34. Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his savor, wherewith shall it be seasoned? 35. It is NEITHER FIT for the land, nor yet FOR THE DUNGHILL; (Lk 13:8) but men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

      Do you know the meaning of this passage?….while many like to use ridiculous and empty platitudes like “ I’m big stuff n God’s eyes & “you’re the apple of God’s eye”…”God loves you/everyone”…the truth is the vast overwhelming majority are literally “not worth shit” in God’s sight. Uhoo…better wake up!

      If that offends your “sensibilities” it may be your conscience trying to wake you up ……or condemning you!

    • George

      Flat. Flat and round. Not spherical.

    • Eggzactly

      Pictures from the space shuttle prove the earth is ROUND. Awwwwww. :cry:

    • Ralban

      Take your STUPID BS and spread your crap elsewhere. Another great example of stupid, dumb-ass BS.

    • Thom V

      It’s sad that there is a world of students that were taught the lie of a spherical earth. After a year or so of reviewing many, many videos, reading many Bible verses, etc,etc.. I learned that the earth is flat, we live in a dome, the sun is about 3000 miles away with a 40 mile diameter, no planets just the Sun, Moon and stars as God, (of the Bible) told us.Man never landed on the moon, not because of the so-called Van-Allen Belt, but because of the Dome that we cannot trespass. Rockets cannot operate in the vacuum of space anyhow. So many lies about a spherical earth.. No thumbs down or nasty comments…..just read,study,and learn with an open mind and the truth will shine on you like the Sun.
      Save your time on the comments, I don’t read them, good or bad.

    • seataka


      SCIENTOLOGY uses the same METHODS as FLAT EARTH.
      Only the shore story and Stage setting are different!

      If you want to know why flat earth has any follows at all, read my answers regarding the secrets behind scientology. Same “ADVANCED PSYCHOLOGICAL TECHNOLOGY that Dr Oppenhiemer said, in 1952 that made the threat posed by the development of the atomic bomb seem trivial. HE used that word trivial!

      On Quora:
      BIN: /contributor/pages/265/386/bio.html

      Teaser: “Contrary to general belief, it has been my experience that the more intelligent the subject, the easier it is to induce hypnosis” Ralph Slater, Stage Hypnotist, played Carnegie Hall several times the winter of 1949/1950 then D.I.A.netics appeared the next spring..

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