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About Biefeld Brown effect

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Biefeld Brown effect is one of the effects studied by “free energy” researchers. What happens that an asymmetry capacitor for which the electrodes are of different size starts to move in the direction of the smaller electrode. The so called emdrive (see this“), which I have commented here and here, could be also based on this effect. The has been a lot of overhyping such as vehicles moving with light-velocity to Mars and the failure of momentum conservation byt the Biefeld Brown effect is real.

The recent experiments carried out in NASA using capacitors in vacuum chamber acieve a levitation in gravitational field of Earth (see this). If this is really the case, new physics is involved.

Standard physics based models for the effect are discussed here. The electric fields associated with the capacitors are abpit 30 kV/dm, which is about 10 per cent of the electric field 30 kV/cm causing dielectric breakdown in air. Note that the electric field of Earth 10-30 V/dm and therefore roughly by a factor 1/1000 weaker.

Brown makes several important statements, including:

  1. The greatest force on the capacitor is created when the small electrode is positive.
  2. The effect occurs in a dielectric medium (air).
  3. The effect can be used for vehicle propulsion or as a pump of dielectric fluid.
  4. Brown s suggeset that the effect involves ionic motion.
  5. The detailed physics of the effect is not understood.

The models assume that the cm motion is due to the loss of energy and momentum to the environment and fail if the effect is possible in vacuum. The first model assumes ionic wind between the electrodes and predicts effect, which is 3 orders of magnitude too small. The model based on ionic drift is a rough order of magnitude model and predicts that the effect can have an order of magnitude consistent with the findings. The reason why the ionic wind predicts a smaller effect is that the absence of dissipation tends to reduce the effect since the ions arriving to the opposite electrode induce an opposite recoil.

I h1ave already earlier commented on the Biefeld Brown effect from the TGD point of view (see this, this and this).

  1. In standard physics the center of mass of the system should remain at rest if the system is in vacuum. If there is a cm motion, there should exist a momentum exchange with some unidentified system. Charges and/or radiation should leave the capacitor to produce a recoil if there is a center of mass motion in vacuum as the experimenters in NASA claim. If the charges leaving a given electrode return to the system, the only possibility is that they end up at the opposite electrode.
  2. Currents are needed to preserve the charges of the electrodes: fraction of mA range to preserve the voltage. Electrostatic energy is lost and momentum is generated. Part of energy goes to the motion of the capacitor system. Where does the momentum leaving the system and producing the recoil go? In the NASA experiments it cannot go to

TGD predicts that besides classical gravitational fields of the Sun, Earth and other planets are responsible for very large values of effective Planck constant heff for ordinary particles located at the gravitational monopole flux tubes. In this article) the generalization of this proposal for electric fields is discussed. Examples are electric fields of DNA, cell, the Earth and Sun and also of large capacitors.

  1. Are the charged particles transferred to electric or magnetic flux tubes of the field body as dark charges as in the Pollack effect (see this)? Can one locate the relevant part of the field body to the interior or exterior of the electrodes? Could the charge transfer via the field body take place by an analog of the Pollack effect and its reversal. Note that also the electric body of the Earth could be involved.

Also mere radiation to the field body could produce a recoil effect but would not produce charge transfer. The required force would be between MB and the capacitor system. The force is known to be directed to the smaller plate on the smaller plate, especially so if it has a positive charge.

  • Center of mass motion requires that part of the energy is dissipated, perhaps as dark photons at the magnetic or electric body or as ordinary photons. Smaller plate experiences a larger recoil, which is found to be larger for ions than electrons. Electric field is more intense at the smaller plate and is believed to make the effect larger.
  • TGD predicts large scale quantum coherence and this could be highly relevant for the Biefeld Brown effect (see this). The electric Planck constant for a pair of charged particle with charge e and for charged system with charge is heff= hem= Qe/β0, where β0= v0/c≤ 1 is a velocity parameter. For the pair of capacitor plates would be given by hem= Q20. hem would characterize charged particles at the electric body of the system consisting of electric flux tubes, which can be also magnetic since electric flux tubes can obtained as small deformations of the magnetic monopole tubes!
  • Note that one cannot exclude the possibility of Maxwellian half-monopole flux tubes having boundary, which I have proposed to be important in the temperature region above the transition temperature in the case of high Tc superconductors (see this).

  • It is important to notice that electric field strength rather than voltage is relevant for the effect. The charge Q of the capacitor as the electric flux Q= int E• dS/ε0 is indeed proportional to the electric field and this suggests that macroscopic quantum coherence might be important (see this). The effect could become large for strong field strengths suggesting that the transfer of charges to the electric body is a collective quantum effect proportional to the square N2 of the number N of charges transferred.
  • For a particle of mass m, the electric Compton length Λem= hem/m= Qe/beta0m serves as a good guess for the lower bound for the quantum coherence length and is for proton by a factor 1/2000 smaller than for electron. The different quantum coherence lengths for an electron and ions could therefore relate to the asymmetry between ions and electrons.
  • The geometric asymmetry of the plates is necessary. The effect is larger when the smaller plate has a positive charge. What could this mean? If the transfer of charges from the opposite electrode via its exterior dominates, it gives rise to an acceleration in the direction of the smaller flux tube since for smaller flux tubes the number of flux tubes going through the exterior is larger. Therefore the acceleration would be in the opposite direction and smaller for a positive charge if the size of the effect increases with increasing electric Compton length.
  • The return of the charges back to the opposite electrode creates an opposite recoil. That the effect is non-vanishing requires that momentum and energy is lost during the transfer. The loss would be via ordinary or dark radiation. See the article About long range electromagnetic quantum coherence in TGD Universe or a chapter with the same title.
  • For a summary of earlier postings see Latest progress in TGD.

    For the lists of articles (most of them published in journals founded by Huping Hu) and books about TGD see this.


    Source: http://matpitka.blogspot.com/2024/04/about-biefeld-brown-effect.html


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