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"Benevolent." "Empire." Discuss.

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Elesha Coffman

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Does anyone else remember the Mike Myers SNL sketch “Coffee Talk with Linda Richman”? When the character, host of a fictitious TV talk show, felt emotionally overwhelmed–verklempt–she would throw out a topic and ask viewers to “Talk amongst yourselves” while she pulled herself together. Several of the topics were historical:

“The Progressive Era was neither progressive nor an era. Discuss.”

“The New Deal was neither new nor a deal. Discuss.”

“The Holy Roman Empire was neither holy nor Roman nor an empire. Discuss.”

I keep thinking about this trope as I try to write a book chapter on the Benevolent Empire, the constellation of mostly Protestant philanthropic organizations formed in the first third of the nineteenth century. The Benevolent Empire was neither benevolent nor an empire. Discuss.

I could just leave the post there and let the comments solve my writing problems, but I’ll mull over a few things first.

Whether organizations like the American Board of Commissioners for Foreign Missions, American Bible Society, and American Temperance Society were benevolent (in the basic sense of good-doing) depended a great deal on whether one belonged to these groups’ conception of “us” or “them.” Of course it’s complicated and morally fraught, and the goodness done varied depending on which organization you’re looking at. Overall, though, I’m having trouble not committing the historian’s sin of judging past actors by the standards of the present. How could the benevolent imperialists be so sure of the superiority of their values? Then again, how can I?

The “empire” question is less related to historical ethics than to the historian’s craft. Does it make sense to focus on the big Protestant organizations, like the three named above, and look for all of the overlapping personnel and goals that knit the groups into something resembling an empire? The overlaps are certainly there. But then there were attempted reforms that spawned competing groups (the American Colonization Society versus the American Anti-Slavery Society, for example); groups whose leaders were free blacks or women rather than, say, Lyman Beecher; and groups–particularly Roman Catholic groups–assembled to do good while opposing Protestant hegemony. How much of this complexity can fit into a short chapter, for a survey text, written for a Protestant publisher? Is it better to write of an empire that failed to be hegemonic or of a melange of groups so various that the title “empire” no longer fits?

I just started reading Kathleen McCarthy’s book American Creed: Philanthropy and the Rise of Civil Society, 1700-1865 and would have brought it along on my vacation, except my library only has it in electronic form. (I hate that.) I’m sure I’ll find some answers there after I get back. Anything else I should think about, comment away.

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Source: http://usreligion.blogspot.com/2015/08/benevolent-empire-discuss.html


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    • Pix

      There is nothing “Benevolent” about organised religion. It is a thought and belief intolerant political dictatorship. There is no difference between any kind of dictatorship, they all treat the population as property, they all victimise minority groups as a distraction tactic, they all imprison dissenters and they all commit genocides. There is no difference apart from their labels and Christianity is no different. Look what did to America as an example, murdered all the native peoples from coast to coast, over 100 million of them, and they are still treated with less respect than dog sh*t. The Abrahamic religions in particular always use their religion as a weapon of mass destruction.

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