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    • Pix

      “SO! You are betting your –LIFE — the LAW of GOD is abolished? Is that a smart bet? We shall see?”

      What ever, there are only c16 million Jews in the entire world. So it’s pretty obvious to the other 7 BILLION inhabitants of the world that it’s a total load of odiously arrogant codswallop.

      :lol:

      • Truthseeker

        pix

        So do you like your mother’s basement? is she fixing you dinner? or what??

        Give her my best!

    • Mayhem

      A fallacious appeal to popularity does not become you :razz: professor.

      • Mayhem

        Oops… @Pix.

        • Truthseeker

          mayhem

          pix can not embarrassed or shamed — I have tried. He or she just keep pasting the same old stuff day after day– hard to comprehend a mind like that.

          To each his own as the old saying goes LOL

          Mayhem do you have an opinion my this paper??

          • Mayhem

            I do as it happens, Truthseeker, try to allow time to collect your thoughts so that the non bible readers can, more readily, follow your logic. In a number of places i recognized that i was reliant on my own knowledge of the narrative.

            Oh you meant the accuracy of your exegetical parsing. I thought you covered the concept thoroughly and soundly.

            Er Pix doesn’t need introducing.

    • destinedtoberevealed

      You say__In Hebrews 8 Paul clearly states the reason the First Covenant was breached was due to the fact the Israel could not keep their side of the agreement; the children of Israel breached the contract — not God.

      Really lets see what God says?

      For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

      8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

      A new covenant to replace the old!!

      9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
      Heb 8:7-9 (KJV)

      Not according to the Old Covenant!!

      You say—The contract was not flawed, it was an honest and legal agreement but the children of Israel were simply incapable of living up to their part of the agreement. The Israelite‘s were an unconverted physical people unable to control themselves. One can make that very same assessment to day.

      In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
      Heb 8:13 (KJV)

      It is gone vanished no longer in effect, pretty clear.

      Hebrews 8

      6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator — of a better covenant,– which was established upon better promises.

      You say—The NEW Covenant was established upon BETTER PROMISES and NOT the removal of God’s Holy LAW !!

      Look here is the removal of the Old Testament Law, predicted in the Old Testament– it would become obsolete, it has been replaced by the New Testament Covenant.

      As a result of the death and resurrection of Christ, true Spirit filled believers understand that they are not under the Old Testament Law. This article will help the reader to understand the new Law of Christ.

      Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

      The Old Testament law is fulfilled as they come to pass in the New Testament revelations.

      Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day [that] I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

      The Old Testament Law of Moses, written on tablets of stone, was given unto Israel after the flesh. These people continuously rejected God the Father and served many strange gods, only a remnant sought Jehovah through faith.

      Jer 31:33 But this [shall be] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

      The second covenant was the Law of Christ written in the hearts of men, Israel after the Spirit.

      This passage refers to the whole house of Israel. All of mankind can now believe in Christ and serve Him in newness of Spirit through faith, hope and love. Everyone that trusts in the cross of Christ is counted as the Israel of God.

      Isa 51:7 Hearken unto me, ye that know righteousness, the people in whose heart [is] my law; fear ye not the reproach of men, neither be ye afraid of them.

      Isaiah prophesized of the true followers of God; this people would know the new law of Christ and it would be in their hearts and minds. Following the New Testament law of Jesus instead of the Old Testament Law of men, would enable them to one day receive redemption at the second coming.

      Isaiah 51:11Therefore the redeemed of the LORD shall return, and come with singing unto Zion; and everlasting joy shall be upon their head: they shall obtain gladness and joy; and sorrow and mourning shall flee away.

      This is the second gathering of the true Israel, the church that Christ bought; it also is a future prophecy awaiting the return of Jesus as King of Kings.

      Modern day Israel is a man made gathering of a people that for the most part despise Jesus. The second gathering of God’s Israel is a spiritual event dealing with a redeemed people; the word redeemed refers to our salvation when we are transformed at Christ’s second coming.

      Stick to your distorted beliefs in the Old Testament, even though they speak of Christ and His New Law.

      but don’t use the New Testament, which you do not believe in and continue to butcher!!!

      Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness [come] by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

      Righteousness comes through Christ’s victory over sin at the cross, to make the claim of righteousness through the Old Testament Law is sin and deceit.

      As we are told in Galatians, we receive Christ’s Spirit by the hearing of the Word with faith.

      Eph 6:16-17 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

      John 2:10 And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now

      Jesus Christ has brought forth the good or new wine which is the new covenant, last; the first wine which was the old covenant was not nearly as good. Also the first was fulfilled or completed in him on the Cross, and has vanished.

      Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

      Gal 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

      Old Testament Law given unto the Hebrews with the commandments and ordinances were to be received by faith; to attempt to keep these works or letters of the law without faith in God was unprofitable and dead. Likewise Christ came and gave the new law. Without the hearing of faith, the spirit that He sent would not be received; it is the infilling of the spirit of Christ that allows us to understand His word. To operate in the flesh with self-righteousness is also unto dead works.

      Isaiah 30:1 Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin:

      The correct interpretation for the word covering is graven image. Isaiah tells the story of a people that God had called who rejected Him by following the counsel of wicked men. They replaced His Spirit and covering for their sin with abominable idols unto Baal covered with gold.

      Gal 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

      Gal 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

      All who share in the faith of Abraham now are of one family. This faith was not in the letter of the law, but in the one who gave the law; all who serve God in faith are counted as children of Abraham.

      Heb 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

      The Old Testament law was a covenant between Jehovah and the Hebrews; this law had Ten Commandments written on tablets of stone. The New Testament is the covenant between Jesus and all who call upon His name; this law is the Spirit of Christ unto life; Christ’s law has only Two Commandments that are written on men’s hearts and in their minds (Heb 10:16; Math 22:37-39).

      Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

      Christ, on the cross abolished the law of commandments and the ordinances; as a result he made it possible for all to be of the commonwealth of Israel.

      Romans 8:2-4 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

      • Truthseeker

        destined2b??

        it is late and I am going to bed but tomorrow I will address your comments point by point, by just a quick skinning you have an short coming you can’t read.

        • destinedtoberevealed

          No, we have wasted enough time!!
          You are not a worthy adversary
          GOOD BYE!!

          • Mayhem

            Good riddance, destined2b, and i hope you learn to read soon.

          • Truthseeker

            destined2bconfused

            I do not look upon you as an adversary but as one the teaches lies and I hate lies.

            As does David, I love my Master Jesus Christ and our Father and I love the perfect Holy Law They gave us. It is a perfect Law of LOVE.

    • A Freeman

      Christ, whilst here in the body of Jesus 2000 years ago, made it crystal clear that He did NOT come to destroy The Law and He condemned those that teach to the contrary (opposite) as being the lowest of the low in God’s Eyes (LEAST in the Kingdom of heaven).

      Matthew 5:17-20
      5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy The Law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
      5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no way pass from The Law, till all be fulfilled.
      5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least COMMANDments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the Kingdom of heaven.
      5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall EXCEED [the righteousness] of the lawyers and politicians, ye shall in no case enter into the Kingdom of heaven.

      The term “being under the Law” used in Paul’s letters refers to being under the Curse of The Law, which is the penalty clause for not keeping The Law (Deut. 28).

      Everything that is happening to America (Joseph-Mannaseh) and Great Britain (Joseph-Ephraim) right now, i.e. the police-state, poverty and oppression, state-sponsored terrorism, WW3, etc. is punishment for not keeping The Law. The ONLY Way for the situation to improve is to return to The Law, EXACTLY as we’ve been told for thousands of years (Mal. 4).

      Please visit: http://jahtruth.net and read “The Way home or face The Fire” by JAH, which is available as a free pdf at: http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.net.

      Scriptural quotes above are from the King of kings’ Bible, which can be accessed online for free.
      http://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/Bible

      • Truthseeker

        Abdiel Freeman

        Wow you got it!!! and it is so hard to understand how others can not read the simple and clear words of Jesus Christ. And yes as you state America and Great Britain must Repent from transgressing God’s Holy Law or the Time of Jacob’s Trouble will fall upon us and all the nations of Israel.

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