"All This Law And Torah Stuff? Oh Really Now?" -- AND THEN -- comments are not allowed??
All This Law And Torah Stuff? Oh Really Now?
yes daniel jackson — GOD’s HOLY ETERNAL LAW, are you concerned you will be buried with the very words of Jesus Christ tell those with ears “if you will enter into Life keep the commandments”??
how about the Words of Christ that state those that teach against the Law will be last in the kingdom?
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Daniel Jackson
I am willing to write a paper, a paper with a minimum of 30 or 40 points/scriptures taken from Genesis to Revelation showing the Torah is the LAW and the Law is to be obeyed now and forever.
I will draft this paper — “IF”– you agree to address each and every one of the points ! Of course doing your best to refute the WORD of GOD and the logic used to back it up.
What say you Daniel??
…seeker…I keep the ten commandments…to the letter…the best I can…but I do not honor the ordinances or statutes…they were made up by men, to keep the Hebrews from straying…not valid or necessary since the resurrection of Christ. The ten commandments…were given to Moses by YHVH Himself…VALID…
maxxy
you are misinformed —- the Torah, the 5 Books of Moses were given to Moses on the mountain by GOD.
the 5 books of Moses, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy are considered so HOLY by God, God had Moses place them in the Ark of the Covenant and if you are familiar with the Torah the Mercy seat which is the THRONE of GOD the FATHER sits on the Ark of the Covenant and all are in the Holy of Holies.
Maxxy do you obey the Commandments spiritually?? Christ came to make them impossible to keep from a carnal human nature stand point. Most humans can stop themselves from killing another.
The Commandments are physical and now spiritual as well — Christ came and completed the Law He fill it to the full.
…seeker…all well and good, but your obvious hostility to the Reality of “right now!!!…Keeps me from even being able to communicate. I’m starting to want to make stuff up, to give you a reason to live. I want you to contemplate your spiritual ties vs. your earthly ties.
..Or even define, what you believe, about where you are, right now…in this world…what is it that has robbed you of your compassion? I think its insecurity. You don’t really know what’s going on. You’re not stupid, and you are, well aware, that “something” otherworldly has been falling on us all. You have no excuse for turning away from reality…. and hiding your candle under a basket. You play it so close to the vest…that there’s just no room for ‘Heart’. Funny thing is…Heart, is exactly what it takes to get The Spirit of latter rain…It just does not fit into a logic dominated, earthly, brain..It takes HEART…Its the Spirit of LOVE…PNEUMA, The breath of life.
…The one telling quality of anybody who thinks he’s among the circumcised is: Does he have compassion? Is his personal belief, built on LOVE…or sacrifice and pain. Because, the Holy Spirit…the Spirit of YHVH and His only begotten…IS LOVE..Sacrifice and pain, suffered for “religious reasons”, is sacrilegious, and has been since the resurrection of our Savior Jesus Christ.
maxxy
define love according to the Biblical definition.
…seek…yeah the Pentateuch… were meant for the Eber. We inherited the ten commandments… The resurrection of Christ…made us all, Gentiles, too….Free….free to choose Jesus Christ…To believe and be saved… Not to follow archaic traditions to get salvation in the practice of sacrifice and the traditions of men.
…Christ turned to the poor wretch, hanging beside him on his own cross…and told him he would be with him in paradise, that day….
…the man hadn’t even been ‘baptized’, and was joining Christ in HIS Spirit..right then. For only… BELIEVING!
…And, right here, right NOW, that is all that is recognizable, as worship. Any other manner of approaching HIS throne…won’t get the desired results.
…You seem to think that it is ‘us freemen’, that are straying from the faith…and we see your Judaic beliefs as being unrecognizable, as legitimate, well before the time of Christ. It was these practitioners of “Jewish” tradition…who yelled to Pontius Pilate…”CRUCIFY HIM…CRUCIFY HIM’.
…Kenites…Lock, stock and barrel…Synagogue of Satan…sons of the first murderer. Representative of your own, ‘worship’ of Earthly trappings. its where YOU got the traditions of men.
…Look seeker, at this part of “history”…You say you’re ‘logical, and love it’. So, try to logically, work this one out…How you can get sweet water from a soured well….I don’t think you can.
Funny how the abrogators always assume that the Torah observant (a) legitimize the Talmud and (b) imagine they are without sin.
And no one, dammit, is saying anything of the sort.
Daniel Jackson
I seriously doubt you will pay any attention to a paper on the Law/TORAH -BUT- after this week I will begin that paper. It will be long as God’s WORD is filled to the full explaining the Laws importance to God and to mankind.
I also doubt it will change any minds as God must open that mind first and remove the Vail blocking the understanding of HIS WORD.