Here is a question for all that believe God is a trinity..
Here is a question for all those believers in a trinity..
Why does the Apostle to the Gentiles, Paul, always ignore the “ghost” in his greeting to the saints??
1 Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians [which is] in God the Father and [in] the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace [be] unto you, and peace, —- from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Did Paul just forget to mention the ghost?
1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God, our Saviour and Lord Jesus Christ, [which is] our hope;
2 Unto Timothy, [my] own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, [and] peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.
but no peace and kindness from the ghost
7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called [to be] saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
4 To Titus, [mine] own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, [and] peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.
Paul never includes “your” third member of “your” closed Godhead –WHY??
And this “ghost’ never speaks in the first person, why?
There is more – this is enough to qualify the question.
I am just interested in how this could possible be explained away.
Please give it your best attempt.
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Paul’s greeting was Paul’s. Why he did not specify the HS in his greetings we may never know. However Paul did recognize the ministry of the HS throughout his writings and even confirmed that the HS was God.
Romans 8:9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.
gordon,
paul did not include the Spirit in his greeting because he knew it was the Spirit of the Father and not a separate entity. How do you greet a ‘ghost” ????
And yes if God the Father has not put in a person His spirit, that same spirit that raised Christ from death, they are none of HIS.
So now you furtively accept the trinity demon (even the demons know God is real)?
That sounds good however Jesus Himself gave significance to the Father, son and HS at the point of His ascension.
Matthew 28:18-20New International Version (NIV)
18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
gordon are you certain that translation is correct?? It is a ‘version” of the Word according to some men.
And how would you – or your seer stone – translate ‘Hagiou Pneumatos’?
I’m content with my findings.
…YHVH created man to be born of water, and to die one time. He then showed us how to do it, personally , in the body of Emanuel, Jesus THE Christ. Jesus’s spiritual body, is YHVH, Himself. The two, are one. Two individuals…one spirit. This IS the ORIGIN of the belief in what is called”the trinity”.
…It does not matter what you call it, or what you believe about it, seeker, the truth is the truth…
maxxy some will die the 2nd time, its called the 2nd death.
Maxxy there is the Father and there is the Son and they are of the same Spirit with the same Divine Holy Righteous Nature but not two minds in one body.
If Christ did not die then He is not our savior and if He is HIS own Father as you espouse then He could not have died.
no man can unscramble a confused mind such as your, that will be accomplished during the Last Great Day by one of God the Father’s sons.
…
Jesus IS I AM you ridiculous Christian billions murdering brain dead slave of Zionists. JFC!
When you whore yourself out as a muslim to your Zionists Troothytits … do you do it in drag? Are there fishnets under your burqua?
Troothytits
that will be accomplished during the Last Great Day by one of God the Father’s sons.
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….what?
I know sons of God is used in the Bible and so on but …I really think you are turning mormon.
SDA into Mormon can go? But wait! Where will you put the Ark of the Covenant?!!!
…seeker…you have zero comprehension of spirituality. I knew this from the first post, of yours I ever read…2years I’ve tried to show you there is more to the story then you have discovered obviously I have failed sorry
maxxy
I take that as a compliment, thank you
Troothytits
Hint: How do you think Paul COULD give greeting to people FROM God the Father and Christ the Lord? He was Paul!
Is this the best you trinity worshipers can do??? Really???
The doctrine of the trinity is the doctrine of an antichrist.
You have denied the Father and the Son by inserting a third and a “ghost” at that.
And again SATANIST no.
Explain what happened at pentecost. I realise monkeys like you that the Zionists have BANNED from Judah do dot believe in Pentecost but wth give it a whirl anyway!
You just make your crap up as you go along don’t you? How do you do it? Stick your head under the lid of the ark of the covenant while holding your seer stone and read between the lines of your replica tablets of the law?
And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever — the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. John 14:16–18
I will not leave you orphans (i.e. fatherless) – 1st person of the Trinity
The Father will give you another Counselor – 3rd person of the Trinity
I will come to you – 2nd person of the Trinity
It is a simple question — why does Paul always ignore the Spirit in his greetings??
so far not one has attempted a specific clear answer — because there is only one answer and they do not like it!
You have been given the answer – only the Holy Ghost has the authority to send greetings from the father and son, to say that they are love, to tell someone that God loves them and is therefore obviously always with people.
Ask yourself why you will never be forgiven for your blasphemy against the Holy Ghost regardless of the blasphemous praise you falsly give to the Father demon.
Always withpeople who are in the post pentecostal Christian Church. That is what Paul is communicating. He is then kind of speaking legitimately (unlike is the case with demons busily BLASPHEMING against everything.
The Scriptures cannot support the idea of a Trinity.
Here’s an often overlooked passage in Romans that supports the classic understanding of the Trinity. Romans 8:9-11. Notice how Paul uses terms that refer to all three persons interchangeably:
9You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. 10But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life because of righteousness. 11And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of his Spirit who lives in you.
livingthetruth
No Paul does not at all teach the Father and the Son and the Spirit are the same.
“if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you”
and how is that ONE Spirit of the Father, “MY SPIRIT”, put in a repentant person — by the laying on of hands.
It is the Holy Seed of the Father that is put in a person — not some third person and the Spirit can be poured out — are you saying one third of the God head is able to be poured out???
If any one does not have in them the very same ONE Spirit of the Father which raised Jesus Christ from the dead — they are none of HIS.
Do you understand the logic? — if they are all the same then Christ is His own Father and after He died and was in the tomb for three days and three nights the third one that some how did not die raised the other third from death?? and where was the “ghost”??
the Spirit of the Father is the POWER that impregnated Mary and raised Christ from the dead.
there is no trinity that lie was invented by Rome in the 4th century AD, a fact which they admit.
We have been over this Fumbles – you don’t think that Jesus is I Am.
Go lecture Savage and Clucker.
Jesus Christ stated clearly “before Abraham was I AM”
Jesus Christ IS the GOD in the OLD Testament. By HIM were all things that were made MADE!
and your demons know that is a fact.
That’s one thing I’ve noticed about Trinitarians…
They automatically assume that anyone who rejects the Trinity, denies the deity of Messiah.
Damien,
You’ve been here for long enough to know better. Truthseeker most certainly confirms that The King is the KING OF KINGS.
Play fair now. And tell your passengers to zip it.
Troothytits
And WHO was I AM?
YHWH?
Thank you for sharing the conclusion of your 6 months and 3 weeks of devotion.
Wow. You really are paying attention.
Most impressive.
Yeah that’s what I thought. She actually remembers, sort of. Anyone who starts anything has to start some time. What better time than now?
BTW, Maiden, you still haven’t answered. What do YOU believe? Eh?
That Canucks are infantile Zionists incapable of Christianity. Why?
BIN
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truthblocker “enough is enough.” third “SIGN” from Heaven ?
seeker stick to Zero Hedge if I was you
as you know nothing about “GOD” as the TRUTH is NOT IN YOU your Father is the Devil.
But I always enjoyed your financial comments
The devil repented
and God saved his soul
and when the world ended
there was nowhere to go… but home
His grace had abundance; saved the creator of sin
The serpent responsible for the fall of men
I should be hung from a tree
Nails through my hands and my feet
But what could be said about Love…
If I couldn’t be saved in the same ghost as the worst of us?
To the inside of this cell
my soul is pinned
It’s this prison that’s keeping me
from feeling forgiven
I’m soaked to the bone
undeservedly so
I’ll dress up in white and watch
my body parts glow
I should be hung from a tree
Nails through my hands and my feet
And what could be said about Love…
If I could be saved in the same ghost as the worst of us?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd-usPKWR54
One of the best, most heartfelt songs I’ve heard in a long while.
clucker
heartfelt for who –Satan??
I’ll check it out later.
What? The song is about how God will even save satan.
His grace has so much abundance he will even save the biggest sinner of us all.
What could even be said about Love… if we do not all have the ability to change and be saved?
What is Love then? (Don’t forget God created satan as well. He is here to test us.)
You’re missing the point entirely, or you’ve misinterpreted the lyrics and my intended meaning, Truthseeker.
God Bless ya fella.
Also, as someone that is not too bright with computers, I just typed out what I thought he was saying. (Damn. I was really close.)
I didn’t realize that in Jewtube there is a button to turn on closed caption. Do that and read for yourself.
I liked the tune Clucks.
Psssssssssssssst MEiDAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g3A7wULfH0
I will never listen again it is very over powering and compelling, it pulls you in!
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Exactly.
NOBODY pulls ‘Passengers’ in.
Brother Chet delivers, once again. The rest of you fools can take a nap. Especially Meidan. Time for bed for you, Meidan. Your passenger needs rest. As do you.
…and Truthseeker… I know you mean well, and I respect you. I think you need to be more open-minded though.
Love,
Cluck
clucker
The sacrifice of Christ covers those that “repent of sin” — Satan has not and can never repent of sin. He is the father of sin.
He will make one more attempt to overthrow God and will be cast out of the 3rd heaven permanently. He will continue to accuse the Saints of God until that time.
Even with men, if a person “willfully” returns to sin there is no more forgiveness for them —
the Lake of Fire is God’s mercy. God will not allow a human to suffer, as mankind is doing right now, the pain and suffering caused by sin for ever and ever.
Satan’s mind is pertinently warped.
There is a song I believe Satan wrote himself, I can not remember the title but I will get it from my daughter and post it for you.
It reveals the mind of Satan — warped beyond measure.
“There is a song I believe Satan wrote himself, I can not remember the title but I will get it from my daughter”
Yeah you would know !!! seeing ur related…he’s ur
Father-
in-Law 
crazy
I want you to clearly understand — you are accusing me of doing and following evil because:
I FOLLOW THE SAME EXACT WAY THAT JESUS CHRIST SET US THE EXAMPLE TO FOLLOW WHILE HE WALKED UPON THIS EARTH FOR 3 1/2 YEARS.
I accept that accusation as a badge of HONOR.
they hated Christ and He stated they would hate HIS followers for the same reasons.
clucker
Here is the youtube of the song written by Jeff Buckley, who is now dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8AWFf7EAc4
Its title is “hallelujah”
In my opinion This is Satan speaking to and accusing GOD and now the young man that wrote is dead, i believe he killed himself.
Troothytits
I FOLLOW THE SAME EXACT WAY THAT JESUS CHRIST SET US THE EXAMPLE TO FOLLOW WHILE HE WALKED UPON THIS EARTH FOR 3 1/2 YEARS.
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You are NOT a Christian! You are outside Judah! You are a demonic predator from Hell!
seeker: I clearly understand you have NO honor as you follow “THAT way”
Fatherless an Orphan u are, You can’t possibly be one of His followers (atm) as you HATE the Churches of Revelation being Gods people, HATE the FINISHED/FULFILLED work of CHRIST on the Cross, HATE the Glorious NEW Covenant by GRACE (ALONE) the one delivered unto the Saints.DISLIKE INTENSELY the PERSON (HE) masculine pronoun in referring to the Comforter “God the HOLY SPIRIT” thereby
HATEing the triunity of God
Ur a denier a 0000.0000000001% believer in “THAT way”, No affiliation nor Creed with ANYONE you can speak of ? but only yourself and ur father-inlaw and his followers who follow him for the same reason.
The Badge you ware is that of a Denier a truthdenier
In my opinion This is Satan speaking to and accusing GOD and now the young man that wrote is dead, i believe he killed himself.
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And now you are admitting that you think King David is God!
I’m-A-demon
Soon my MASTER will cast you into the bottomless pit! And you know it is soon!!
Pastor Troothytits: “Yessss…..massster! Ssooooon. Sssooooon.”👿
Truthseeker
That song was originally penned by Canadian Jew Leonard Cohen
Some of the original lyrics might be of use for those who only know this masterpiece from the Buckley remake or SHREK movie.
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/l/leonard+coh/hallelujah_20082898.html
”
You say I took the name in vain
I don’t even know the name
But if I did, well really, what’s it to you?
There’s a blaze of light
In every word
It doesn’t matter which you heard
The holy or the broken Hallelujah
I did my best, it wasn’t much
I couldn’t feel, so I tried to touch
I’ve told the truth, I didn’t come to fool you
And even though
It all went wrong
I’ll stand before the Lord of Song
With nothing on my tongue but Hallelujah
”
You might just be right on that one Truthseeker.
chet
I heard the song sung by Buckley, one of his lyrics was ” You don’t like music do you?”
I will never listen again it is very over powering and compelling, it pulls you in!
Indeed Truthseeker.
Buckley’s own music in general was ethereal and melancholy sweet. The Album “Grace” comes to to mind with the thinly veiled ode to his father called “Dream Brother” :
“There is a child sleeping near his twin
The pictures go wild in a rush of wind
That dark angel he is shuffling in
Watching over them with his black feather wings unfurled”
Jeff’s untimely death in the shadow of a pyramid…. odd indeed. The stuff conspiracies are made of.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wolf-River-Harbor-Memphis.jpg
I suspect he was “housing something” that enabled his art and that whatever “that” was required early repayment.
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$60AU raise in that favourite colour of yours…. GOLD
Zzzzz
crazy
Are you aware God names people and things for what they are — so your name is crazy???