A challenge to those that hope they have been “anointed” “in to” or are baptism by the holy “Ghost” and hope they are now part of the Body of Christ.
This challenge is for Maxwell, Destined2B, Crazy and all others that have accepted the satanic lie that all that is required for salvation is the anointing by or baptism of the holy “ghost” and that have also accepted the satanic lie that to be IN Jesus Christ one must simply “BELIEVE” and no other requirements or duties are necessary for salvation! i.e that there is NOTHING to OBEY or DO!
Resting on God’s Sabbath, obeying God’s Holy Law and observing God’s Holy Feasts exactly as did Jesus Christ and His Apostles are cast into the garbage can and taken to the dump by those that have been deceived by Satan.
Only the 24th chapter of Matthew will be used to prove what is described above are false doctines. Other scriptures will be include or alluded to explaining in depth some doctrines, words or definitions.
Matthew 24:
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Christ tells His disciples “they” - ‘Christians’ – can BE deceived!! Oh oh! Then those who claim to be Christians could well BE deceived? WOW that is shocking as most believe they are born again, sealed or what ever and are in a “locked in” position for salvation.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Christ then goes further to explain Many will be coming in HIS name preaching Jesus Christ – IS THE CHRIST — and with that very message those claiming to be Christians will DECEIVE the MANY!
If there are today around 40,000, as it has been estimated, different kinds of Christian churches and denominations all preaching Jesus Christ is our Savior but all teaching different doctrines such as born again, the rapture, going to heaven at death, heaven is our reward, the Torah i.e. the Law is now moot, all that is required is to just believe and accept Jesus into ones heart, there are only 144,000 that are saved and only they go to heaven on and on and on it goes —- ON TO UTTER CONFUSION.
40,000 diverse Christian churches is UTTER ABSOLUTE CONFUSION!
Which one or ones do you accept as that ONE TRUE CHURCH?
Paul states there is ONE Lord, ONE faith, ONE baptism, ONE GOD and FATHER of ALL — not 40,000 !
9 Then shall- they - deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and “ye” (Saints of God) shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.
Who is the “THEY” that Christ states will deliver up true Christians and afflict and kill them?? Go back to verse 5, those that come in the authority of Christ falsely – “they”, so called Christians – will be doing the afflicting and killing!
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
And just who are the many that are to be offended and betray and hate?? Again go back to verse 5, fake Christians.
In chapter 25 of Matthew Christ states half of the virgins have no oil – no Holy Spirit and thus He does not “know” them, they are none of HIS and never were – they are false Christians that have never been given the Holy Spirit which will turn on true Saints of GOD.
Who did you suppose would be offended, the muslims, the pagans, those that worship idols? NO! Those that will be offended will be offended by those actually following Jesus Christ on that narrow path that leads to LIFE!
11 And many FALSE prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
How many “preachers, teachers and churches” have arisen today and are deceiving the many: 40,000 plus!
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
What ? didn’t you folks tell me over and over THE LAW was nailed to the cross stake of Christ? That Christ “fulfilled” the Law which you have determined (hope) to mean — ended; abolished; cancelled; destroyed and just simply done away.
How then can “iniquity” which is “lawlessness” abound if there IS NO LAW???
And what is LOVE mentioned in that same verse?
2 John1:
4 I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father.
OH oh! this commandment is from the Father, not Christ, how is the Father involved in this?? Wasn’t’ the Father usurped by Jesus Christ when Christ came to take that horrible burden and “curse” of the LAW off the back of those wanting to continue to lie, murder and fornicate??
5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.
Which beginning?? Creation ? Moses or when Christ came to earth and began to preach the Gospel ? Actually it does not matter as it is the very same LAW in each beginning.
These two great precepts; love God and love neighbor are the foundation of the Torah in which is found all the HOLY LAW of GOD including the 10 Commandments.
Those two foundational principles/precepts are taught throughout both the new and the old testaments: they reveal to man the very Divine and HOLY NATURE of God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ.
6 And this is love, —- that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
LOVE is accomplished by living by all 10 of the Commandments, without the last 6 of the 10 please explain how we are TO love our brothers, how is that accomplished specifically?
Without using God’s 6 Commandments explaining what brotherly love IS - PLEASE DEFINE WHAT BROTHERLY LOVE IS . I want God’s definition not mans!
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
Oh oh! It is not those that “just believe” or are “sealed” or are baptized that will be saved BUT those that endure until the end!!! Enduring is hard and not for the weak!
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
And which “Gospel” will be preached?? That we must accept Jesus into our hearts? Or that we must “just believe”, or we must be born again, or we must be baptized into the Spirit or what?
The GOOD NEWS of the “KINGDOM” will be preached:
The Good News that the Father is sending down to earth HIS Government headed up by Jesus Christ as KING of kings and LORD of lords.
Jesus Christ will restore all things that man has removed from HIS WORD and refused to OBEY and the LAW i.e the Torah will go forth from Jerusalem into the entire world. Jesus Christ will use the ROD OF IRON to enforce that LAW!
Why do you suppose Christ came preaching “Repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand”? Because LAWLESS folks will never be allowed to enter the Kingdom!! Those that refuse to OBEY THE HOLY LAW OF GOD will never be allowed to set one foot in God’s kingdom.
Christ came to save SINNERS! Was that purpose changed at HIS DEATH??
And JUST what is sin??? I John 3:4 “Sin is the transgression of the LAW”!
Please explain how is it possible for sin to even exist if there are no rules or laws giving us the list of what constitute A SIN?
Revelation 22
14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Here in the last chapter of the last book of the NEW Testament Jesus Christ makes the statement – those that “DO” HIS Commandments may enter the kingdom of GOD!
If Christ buried the Law with HIM and it is abolished — how is this statement possible??
AND the next verse list a few of what the 10 Commandments reveal to BE SIN.
15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
And which “Gospel” does your “flavor of the week’ teach??
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: )
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the Sabbath day:
So how do you folks handle this statement by our Savior?? Just before the Tribulation is to begin Christ is telling HIS DISCIPLES “pray your flight be not on the Sabbath Day”??
I was under the assumption none of you believe that THE Sabbath is incumbent upon Christians today and here is Christ tell HIS Disciples, God’s Saints, to pray THEIR flight be not ON THE STILL EXISTING SABBATH!
If Christ knew He was going to abolish the Sabbath at His death why does HE now bother to mention the Sabbath to His Disciples many decades after His death?
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
There will be only one time ever that is not like another and that is the Great Tribulation which will occur about 2000 years after Christ’s death and before this time of trouble begins Christians will be keeping the Sabbath!
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here [is] Christ, or there; believe [it] not.
24 For there shall arise FALSE Christs, and FALSE prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Signs, wonders/marvels, manifestations, dreams, visions etc. will become the norm among the Lawless so called Christians, but they be from Satan!
AND “if possible” these signs, wonders, marvels and manifestations shall deceive the “very elect” i.e. those in which the Father’s Spirit dwells.
These signs and wonders will be so real, so believable, so powerful even the Saints of God could possibly be deceived — the “lawless” Christians will fall for it hook line and sinker.
I am not impressed by supernatural occurrences like bleeding statues or by unnatural feelings or euphoric emotions, Satan is the god of this world and he is a spirit that has great power to deceive and he employs that power very well.
Satan has deceived the entire world at this moment and is about to cause his 2000 year old existing church to arise as the universal Christian church for the entire world and the world will follow and worship Satan who heads that body.
And Satan’s “Christians” will make war on the Saints of GOD.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
After the Tribulation which is the 5th Seal, the 6th Seal which actually shortens the 5th begins. By the 6th Seal, which are the heavenly signs, God intervening to prevent Satan from ending human life on earth.
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
The sign of the return of the Son of man from heaven is LIGHT much brighter then our sun and when the gentiles see this great light they mourn and WHY because the shall see, in fact, every eye on earth shall see the SON OF MAN coming in the clouds of heaven with Great Power and Glory.
And the next verse totally destroys the satanic invented rapture.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
At the return of Christ to earth as KING of Kings and LORD of Lords, which every eye on earth shall witness, in great Power and Glory THEN at the sounding of that Last Trump (the 7th) the dead in Christ shall rise first followed by those still living and they – ALL — shall join Christ in the clouds and from there they descend setting foot on the Mount of Olives.
Zechariah 14 confirms this event.
1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand — in that day — upon the mount of Olives, which [is] before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, [and there shall be] a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee [to] the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah:
and the LORD my God shall come, [and] — all —the saints with thee.
I will include this last verse to confirm the Saints of God are to rule with Christ here on earth When Christ returns to earth, The LORD my GOD “shall come”!
45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed [is] that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
And just where is our LORD coming – to earth to rule for 1000 years.
47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him “ruler” over all his goods.
At the return of Jesus Christ He brings with Him the reward each one of His Saints has earned, some will be rulers over 5 cities some 10, ruling the entire earth as kings and lords under Jesus Christ King of kings and Lord of lords.
Well guys, will you attempt to show the scriptures and logic used in this paper to be used incorrectly?
Please do not bother to attack me, I could care less about attacks on me.
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Whistler Blowers, Insiders
Maxwell
here is your opportunity to cut and paste and prove your doctrine is sound.
I doubt you will come with one scripture, you just will tell me again I am not spiritual.
…I can search all my resources for the “holy spirit/ holy ghost”. there won’t be anything there that could possibly convey to you, what i’m talking about, when I say I know the holy spirit. I give up. I don’t have what you need to believe.
…Thanks for your respect. I don’t need your approval. I think you have a very short wait. Hang in there…you’ll know more about this soon.
…seeker…I can’t prove anything to you. It would take more than i am interested in.
…Nothing you wrote in this post proves to me that you even know what I’m talking about. We’re in different worlds…earthman.
maxwell
You and I can not have the same spirit. That is absolutely Impossible!
If you can not comprehend the following:
Christ and the Apostles kept the 7th day Sabbath’
Christ and the Apostles kept the 7 Feasts of GOD;
Christ and the Apostles lived by the Law found in the Torah.
Christ and the Apostles never ate unclean meats.
For living in 100% accord with the above Jesus Christ became our Passover.
For following Jesus Christ and HIM ONLY the 12 Apostles were blessed and will now rule over a tribe of Israel. And King David for doing the same will rule all the Tribes of Israel.
All of the above — I DO — as I follow the example Jesus Christ put in place for HIS called out ones to follow!
It seems you are calling the above worthless “rituals and traditions” of the Jews.
If the spirit that is in you is leading you to this conclusion— that spirit is not of GOD.
…Seeker…I’ve passed onto you what i KNOW, about the subject…my obligation is taken care of…I hope you find your way. I pray for your spiritual awakening.
…Your abilities with the computer is way beyond what i can ever hope for…try to stay clean.
DEMON
Christ and the Apostles kept the 7th day Sabbath’
Christ and the Apostles kept the 7 Feasts of GOD;
Christ and the Apostles lived by the Law found in the Torah.
Christ and the Apostles never ate unclean meats.
All of the above — I DO — as I follow the example Jesus Christ put in place for HIS called out ones to follow!
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30 Now a herd of many pigs was feeding at some distance from them.
31 And the demons begged him, saying, “If you cast us out, send us away into the herd of pigs.”
32 And he said to them, “Go.” So they came out and went into the pigs, and behold, the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the sea and drowned in the waters.
There are people here who believe they know what’s in your heart and mind. They will cause you to fall to their own limitations…if they can. Don’t let them in…they mean you no good. These people will try to make you believe they are the “authority”…they are not. They are ‘legalists’ who want you to believe that they have information you need. they do not.
…Galatians 5:1 “Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.”
…In other words, don’t try to follow the precedence of the law that these legalists teach. Free yourself from them, and go directly to the Scripture. Our heavenly Father promised us the freedom that we have in Christ, and don’t let some legalist bind you up in their yoke of bondage.
…Galatians 5:2 “Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.”
…Paul is telling them to pay special attention to what he is about to say. He is saying that if you are circumcised for the purpose of religion, circumcision will not profit you anything, nor will Christ be of any profit to you either, for you have placed yourself back under the law. There is nothing wrong with circumcision, but don’t do it for a religious reason. Do it for cleanness and health reasons, and not for any Spiritual purpose. Same with the health laws. Bacon and shrimp ruin your cardiovascular system…stop eating them, for that reason. Not because its a ‘deadly’ sin..though… not taking care of your body may prove to be.
…The law is good, and right to follow in our lives, but if you make a religion out of any laws, then you have brought all the laws down on you, and you then live under the law, and not under God’s grace, which is the blood of Jesus Christ which was shed for the sins of those that would REPENT OF THEM.
…Galatians 5:3 “For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.”
…Paul is repeating verse two here, that every person that is circumcised for a religious purpose, he is required to keep every last word of the law, and he or she will be judged by them all. When you put yourself under the law, then even the laws that are unknown to you, come into play..and, you will be judged by them by YHVH.
…The law is a set of rules that are good, but it is man that falls short. When you look back on your life, every time you got in trouble with a neighbor, the police, your family members, or financially more then likely you broke a law. The law is our schoolmaster telling us just what is right to do, and what is forbidden, for one reason or another. When you know right from wrong, you are saying, I know the law. There is no man that can live and keep all the laws, which include the ordinances and statutes [these include the ten commandments]. Jesus was the only person that lived in the flesh and was perfect.
…However… when you are not under the law, but in Christ, when you break one of the laws then through repentance it is not held against you where it counts, and that is before the throne of God. It is like running a stop light, and the police officer issues you a ticket. When you show up in court before the judge, The ticket issued by the officer has been torn up, and there is no charges against you. Without the ticket, as far as the judge is concerned you did not run the light, even though the act was committed. This is the same manner of what our freedom in Christ is. When we sin and break the law, the blood of Christ has already neutralized the act [tore up the ticket] when we SHOW UP IN COURT. However, we must show up and this is what repentance is, for when you miss a court appearance [repentance] then a warrant is issued for your arrest, and you will stand in judgment for that violation [sin].
…Repentance of your sins in Jesus name gives you the credentials to go before the throne of God, and have a fresh start. But if you for any religious reasons make one of those laws special, when you have Christ, you had better take them all in, for you have removed your credentials, which is the blood of Christ and you will be judged on them all. You are either under the grace given under the blood of Christ, or you are under the law, and it is you that does the choosing. When you teach that there is no forgiveness under a specific one of those laws, you have condemned your self under the whole law, for Christ’s blood is sufficient to cover any sin that is repented to the Father in Jesus name.
Galatians 5:4 “Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.”
…”Grace” is unmerited favor, favor that you can never earn. Christ paid the price for all sin on the cross at Calvary’s Hill. Grace vs. law. You are either ‘trustworthy’, pure enough (in intent) to be a part of the “body of Christ”, or you need the Law’s “reminders” of what is, truly, sanctified.
…The blood of the ‘lamb’, is what the LAW did not have, when it was given…All “end-times” prophecy, points to this point of contention.
…God’s Elect, who were chosen…BEFORE the foundation of this age, ARE HERE NOW…and have never needed a reminder of who is who, and what this “point of contention”, is all about.
maxwell
THE yoke of bondage is SIN — not the LAW
Sin delivers the penalty of death
The LAW IS LIFE EVER MORE
The foundation upon which your house of cards is built is very soon going to fall.
Old covenant… laws of Moses, rules, observances ,
OR
“the Glorious New Covenant..”Simplicity and the purity in Christ” 2 Corinthians 11:3
You choose..One is DEATH …One is LIFE
truthdebaucher has chosen the “Ministry of DEATH” 2 Corinthians 3:7
BE WARNED ….DO NOT TAKE HIS YOKE !!!…choose LIFE and live
…seeker…You said:”THE yoke of bondage is SIN — not the LAW”.
…That’s the whole point…Inside the the body of Christ, in HIS Grace, under the sanctity of “repentance”…THERE IS NO SIN…WE BELONG TO HIM. we are sealed.
…There is but one “unforgivable sin”…and only one of God’s elect can commit it.
…1 Thessalonians 1
1 Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
2 We give thanks to God always for you all, making mention of you in our prayers;
3 Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;
4 Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.
5 For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.
6 And ye became followers of us, and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Ghost.
7 So that ye were ensamples to all that believe in Macedonia and Achaia.
8 For from you sounded out the word of the Lord not only in Macedonia and Achaia, but also in every place your faith to God-ward is spread abroad; so that we need not to speak any thing.
9 For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;
10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
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John 15:26
But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
John 16:13-14
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
…Revelation 7:3 “Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
“John 15:26
But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
John 16:13-14
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
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Seeker…I guess I’m not as good with the “cut and paste” as i thought..I’ve been on this for hours and lost the whole thing…so I’m back on it…I thought i didn’t want to bother…but what else is possible? be patient with this old man.
… John 1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost…
…Matthew 3:11.. I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
…Mk 1:8 indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:
..Lk 3:16..John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:
maxwell
we indeed must be put (baptized) under the water and we indeed must be “baptized” – “with” the Holy Spirit.
But they are two different events.
Water baptism washes away sin; the 2nd step in our conversion.
But We are not immersed “into” the Spirit, the spirit is immersed “IN TO US,” we are immersed “WITH” or BY the spirit.
God’s Spirit is the HOLY SEED by which we become sons of God, it is the “spirit sperm” of God that begets us as HIS actual spirit sons. How do you suppose the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary??
We do not dwell IN the Holy Spirit — the Holy Spirit of the Father dwells IN US.
Once HIS spirit is dwelling in us we can then began to think as our Father thinks and begin to understand the things of GOD our Father.
Ones hands are laid upon our heads and the Father’s ONE Spirit comes in and dwells within us we become a spiritual fetus beginning to grow and develop into the spirit image of our Father and then after we endure until our or the end and have become spiritually developed and have matured, we will be born one final time INTO the FAMILY of GOD. Phil 3:21 states when we are born again we will have the same spirit body as does Jesus
Christ.
Human reproduction is the physical copy of spiritual reproduction.
Max the HOLY Spirit of the Father can not dwell in a sinner, that Holy Seed can only come into a repentant and then baptized person that has joined with Christ in HIS death, burial and resurrection – then and only then can that which is HOLY i.e. God’s HOLY SEED COME INTO A PERSON, a person that has been “justified” by the blood of Jesus Christ.
Max I again doubt you will get anything out of the above but it is the TRUTH.
Troothytits
Explain to me
YOU FOUL SPAWN OF DEMONS
….why would the Father have a Ghost (even if it is a Holy one)?
Troothytits
And does the Ghost of your ‘Father’ YHWH
possess those who, like you, believe there is any Israel outside of Judah (Christ Jesus) like it did the herd of pigs before or after they are ‘baptised’ or what? 
truthtrasher your truly are an abomination to listen too, seared trough imho, devoid of ANY understanding, the worst of the worst, a devil in disguise, REPENT HERETIC as the Lord …” will spit you out of my mouth!”rev 3:16… Yep that’s for YOU, you snake!
What a load of bollocks you write “40,000 churches “…?? “Gods sperm “, “Gods seed” for “God the HOLY SPIRIT”; I could go on and on but I need to throw up first and syringe my ears.. yuk !!!
maxxy gets it and posted the relevant verses!!! you don’t : and looks like you NEVER WILL your an agent for the dark-side
your father is SATAN : 
God is a TRIUNE BEING, He speaks to the CHURCHES
(7) of them in Revelation and the “SPIRIT SAITH” (SPEAKS) , a MYSTERY to those on the 
OUTSIDE …but those on the 
INSIDE (In Christ) THEY have “ALL things in common” Acts 2:44 and they ALL understand the TRIUNE GOD… CONTRARY to Your BS.
Where on Earth do you get this concoction of convoluted ideas ? prey tell ? What is the Name of your CONgregation/ Brotherhood …? “Robin Hood” ? yeah I know, you don’t BELONG to ANY !!!
btw how is it in those Hills, still fearful..? of those in the Church ppl who want to kill you ..lol… I believe “Hillsong” live in them there hills may not have been a good Idea after all.
seeker…Shame on you peddling some FAKE FALSE beliefs, UNKNOWN to the ecclesia of God..TRYING to put Mill Stones (LAWs) around children’s NECKS ,you will pay for this deception your peddle…..REPENT !!! REPENT!! …truthshocker!!
Summer is nearly over and YE are NOT SAVED !!??
Crazy
I get doctrine from a very unusual hardly used source, I use the WORD of God to determine sound doctrine, something you may want to try some time.
Crazy I know you are a “holy ghost” fellow, me, not at all.
So I take it you believe since your “holy ghost” (does it have a sheet over its body) over shadowed Mary does that not make it the father of Christ??
AND further if your catholic invented trinity, invented in the 4th century, were true does that not make Christ the father of himself??
Crazy have you ever stumbled across this scripture spoken by the Apostle Peter??
22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, [see that ye] love one another with a pure heart fervently:
23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
What Peter is explaining is what I wrote; by the Holy Seed i.e the HOLY SPIRIT of the Father we are impregnated, begotten, not by corruptible physical sperm but by incorruptible (spirit) .
Here is the NIV version;
22 Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for each other, love one another deeply, from the heart.
Notice Peter states we have purified ourselves BY OBEYING, and what have I have been writing for years – we are to obey!!
23 For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God.
Because of the WORD of God showing us that WAY and which we have obeyed,, God the Father has begotten us as HIS SONS to be born in the likeness of HIS FIRST BORN of many brethren; JESUS CHRIST.
Strong’s Concordance
spora: a sowing, by impl. seed
Original Word: σπορά, ᾶς, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: spora
Phonetic Spelling: (spor-ah’)
Short Definition: seed
Definition: seed sown, a sowing.
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from speiró
Definition
a sowing, by impl. seed
NASB Translation
seed (1).
Crazy I abhor all things catholic and that includes the blasphemous trinity lie.
seeker said “I get doctrine from a very unusual hardly used source” Yes it’s smeared with layers upon layers of Adventist propaganda
Comm’on now seeker you’ve been studying 50 yrs and are NOT yet saved ? How can you NOT know the Scriptures were there at least 600yrs BEFORE the first Pope ?
So how can you say the “Catholic doctrine of trinity” ? That is NOT a sound mind you have there seeker imho check ur history book, before them were the Greeks (Church-Pergamum) along with Orthodoxy before them were the Christians in the Lions Den (Church-Smyrna) before them were the Apostolic Church (Church-Ephesus)… Apostles .
Matey that leads us to the “Word of God” the Bible where THEY GOT the TRIUNE belief from CONFUSED go ask them yourself, the Greeks ,the Russian Orthodoxy ,the Apostolic Church believers (from the far East) THEY HOLD today what they Held then a TRIUNE GOD and this is WHAT “they ALL had in COMMON” unlike you who has a source of UNUSUAL DOCTRINE …just happens to sound alot like SDA
with a twist of Robin Hood to make it your OWN.
WHY does God talk to HIS CHURCHES …His People in the Book of Revelation DON’T you think he would have put in a footnote, like what YOU QUOTED…To ALL my CHURCHES BEWARE (“blasphemous trinity lie.”)
Your Making it UP seeker
CHURCHES ARE HIS PEOPLE Triune believers and they must correct a few things which he explains to each… He talks to them..So as to refine a BRIDE…If you have an Ear, Hear His messages, YOURS is the LAST ECCLESIA in Revelation,the BLIND ONES.
Furthermore you know I don’t buy into, loving ALL brethren ? as i test the Spirit first, as my brethren believe in a Triune God and have been given
the “SPIRIT OF THE SON” in their hearts 
Which you CANNOT UNDERSTAND as you said Many times!!! so how can you say you are Brethren ? How can you say YOU are Born Again
of His SON ???……… Faker!!!
Galatians 4:66And because you are sons, God sent the
Spirit of His Son into our hearts 
, crying out, “Abba, Father!”
CLEARLY YOU have been given the spirit of your father, the father of lies….. SATAN.
OTHERWISE you would have the spirit of His Son THEN …YOUR BLINDNESS would be GONE…THEN you could SEE the .”Simplicity and the purity
IN Christ” 
2 Corinthians 11:3
The GLORIOUS NEW COVENANT…2 Corinthians 3
deathseeker In addition we can now add this Mystery to ur other list of denials and blindness.That is…
The rapture will REMAIN a Mystery to you, the Churches are a Mystery to you, the Parables Y’shua gave to “His People called by His NAME” (CHRISTIAN) are a Mystery to you…
..BEGINS with US… 
FIRST 
the BRIDE the “body of Christ”… 
REAL CHRISTIANS 
Matey the Day of Christ the Day of the Lord
Judgement starts at the House of God FIRST…1 Peter 4:17
Seeker a bit of advise, leave Scripture alone you’ve spent nearly 50 yrs study and all you do is just make things worst for YOURSELF!!
the list of Errors just grows and grows!!!
lets face it seeker…your a DENIER of the “Word Of God”… “as it is written”
A FAKE CHRISTIAN….Oh” yeah you guys don’t really like the word CHRISTIAN being a special ecclesia from Robin Hoodland.
seeker:God has made PROMISES to HIS PEOPLE NOT YOU …which you TRY and make Null & VOID…
because you are NOT a Real Christian …your a blasphemous Faker
crazy
According to Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ taught personally by Christ —Paul states THE ONLY CHANGE FROM THE OLD COVENANT TO THE NEW ARE THE PROMISES! Hebrews 8
In any contract there must be 2 parties: in both covenants the parties are GOD and the 12 Tribes of Israel — that never changed.
In the old covenant/contract God’s promises were all physical and were predicated upon Israel obeying the LAW. — thus the contractual duties of the 12 tribes was to obey the LAW — craZy show me where the Law was specifically removed from the new contract.
Show us where the contractual duties were changed or eliminated under the new spiritual new contract.
YOU can not find that statement as it does not exist. Paul states only the promises were changed.
Crazy with out specific duties called “the consideration” a contract is not legally binding.
according to Paul the ONLY change from the old to the new are the promises.
The OLD promised only physical blessing — the new promises spiritual blessings i.e. forgiveness, a change in our nature (heart) that is accomplished by the indwelling of the HOLY SPIRIT and IF we endure until the END eternal life.
crazy exactly what did Jesus Christ tell us we must repent of??
If you say “repent of not accepting Him into our hearts” I ask you to show me that statement by Jesus Christ — that also can not be found.
I expect you to comprehend the above— not at all — as the false doctrines you hold as true have blinded you.
Jesus and Paul affirmed the moral law of the Old Testament and they referred to some of the Ten Commandments as stating eternal moral standards, but it is notable that they did not mention the Sabbath law in these references (Mark 10:19; 12:28-31; Romans 13:8-10).
In keeping aligned with the scriptures I can well see you are familiar with, it is a bit unsetteling that this verse proves elusive to your self-righteous nature: “Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ” (Colossians 2:16-17). In reviewing your many comments on this article and others, it seems quite apparent that you are the one who has cast out his hand in judgement in this regard, to others who profess faith in and try to live in the example set by our Lord and Salvation.
Other New Testament passages also show that Sabbath keeping is not a requirement of the new covenant. It is permissible to regard a certain day as special, but it is wrong to make it a moral duty for oneself or others. “One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it…. Let us not therefore judge one another any more” (Romans 14:5-6, 13). “How turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain” (Galatians 4:9-11).
At first, Jewish Christians apparently kept the Sabbath as part of their culture – they had been doing this for aeons of time. In Acts 10-11 Peter and the Jewish church were still adhering to Jewish dietary laws for the same reason. In Acts 21 Paul underwent a Jewish purification ceremony, which included a Temple offering, in order to reassure Jews that he was not trying to destroy their views – He became a Jew to the Jew and Gentile to the Gentile. He also attended synagogues often in order to preach to Jews. But in Acts 15 the Jerusalem Council ruled that Gentile Christians did not have to keep the law of Moses, except for four items that they listed in a letter to all the Gentile churches. Significantly, the Sabbath was not one of them. If what you state is wholly true, this would have certainly seemed to bring an uprising or at least harsh rebuke, but it did not, and that is significant. All scripture is designed for teaching.
At the end of the day truthseeker, we ALL are seeking truth. I can attest to destinedtoberevealed as an individual; this man has bent over backwards for me in offering help and caring kind words during my own struggle and walk, without judgment and malice, and the law written within our hearts attests to Agape; how Yahuah loves people thru people in the name of His son. Your attemps are probably made in an effort of correction, seeing us as in error, but Christ IS our Sabbath rest, and we have not went out on a limb to cast judgemental notions to those keeping the Sabbath – “…let each man be convinced in his own mind…”
yourpainhasapurpose
I am very happy you referred to Colossians 2: 16,17
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]:
Paul is speaking to gentiles Christians and is telling them let no man judge how you eat or drink or how you keep Holy-days or the new moon which is a minor holy day or even how you keep the Sabbath.
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body [is] of Christ.
Then Paul interjects the Holy Days and the Sabbath are shadows of events of thing yet to come,
BUT “LET” THE BODY OF CHRIST –I.E. JUDGE YOU, the “is” was added.
YOU missed the most important point Paul was making; the 7 Holy Feasts OF GOD are the major events in God’s plan of salvation as is the Sabbath which was “made HOLY” of the 7th day of creation week and thus IS NOT A JEWISH “custom” and neither are the 7 Feasts of God Jewish THEY ARE GOD’s DAYS.
What comes just before the 7 day Feast of Unleavened Bread? The Passover , and what occurred on that day — Christ our Passover was sacrificed for us. Exactly as was laid out by Moses.
And what took place on the Feast of Pentecost? A High Holy Day of GOD? the prophecy given to Joel that “God the Father would pour out from heaven upon men HIS Spirit.
On the Feast of Pentecost the Church of GOD was begun.
On the Feast of Trumpets Christ returns to earth as King of kings
On the Day of Atonement Satan is taken away for 1000 years
On the Feast of Tabernacles the 1000 year reign of Christ begins.
but you keep xmas and easter and the day of worship of the sun god, Sunday and thus have no knowledge of what is about to occur.
I do not extend myself to believe others are in error, as each man must be fully convinced in his own mind. I do not observe any of mans pagan-originated festivals/holidays – they speak volumes as to the effects of Constatine and the blend of Romanesque/Babylonian god-worship and its adulteration of pure worship. I have friends who do…that is between them and our ultimate judge. It is my understanding that I am to be a witness; that my life will serve as a silent and audible testimony to the power of God Almighty in my life, and the sweet scent of redemption and grace that He bestows upon the lowly and humble who seek Him. What is not done in faith is sin. I attend no building that has a Sunday service – at its root I believe it to be part of the guise that Lucifer uses to decieve those weak in faith. Peter well understood that truth was not where we sought truth, but in Whom that truth was found. For me, that truth is in Jesus Christ (or whatever vernacular you associate our Lord to be called) and the redeeming power in His shed blood.
The best measure of what is truly walking in truth, is to not compare your doctrine and precepts with those professing Christ resuurected, but within the law written upon your heart by the One calling us out of this world and into His amazing ecclesia. I do not believe you are wrong in observing the Sabbath or any of the festivals – these are amazing ways to strengthen faith and keep our walk toward and for our Sovereign Creator and remember His story in our lives. But in this observation, you may well bring the entire law as not only your tutor, but the dividing line that you are judged against. To believe in the Law of Moses as still in effect, you are binding yourself to the jot and tittle of that law. As for me, my strength and rest and hope and faith all lie within the Spirit of truth that I know He has imprted into me that has changed every single thing in my life, especiially my mind and heart. The Law could and will never do what Holy Spirit does in the lives of folks like me who will never be the same. To say that Who and what I have recieved is not enough…I just cant go there as many do. He is what I will never be; perfect and righteous and blameless. I believe we are all seeking Truth, but it is a dangerous area to sound the alarm to others and say that what manner they worship and believe is not enough because of your own adherance to this or that doctrine.
The fruits of God’s Holy Spirit are beautiful and such a blessing in this world of darkness, and they do not include Sabbath keeping, festivals and such – they are Love and joy and peace…I wouldnt trade these for the world or anything in it.
yourpainhasapurpose
You wrote:
“The best measure of what is truly walking in truth, is to not compare your doctrine and precepts with those professing Christ resuurected, but within the law written upon your heart by the One calling us out of this world and into His amazing ecclesia.”
yourpain,
I do not compare my self with others, I Compare and judge only by the WORD of GOD.
And I agree the best measure to judge and compare is by the Law which is being made our Nature i.e hearts.
And if you will go to Jeremiah 31: 33 and find the Hebrew word translated as Law and then go to Strong’s you will find that word for law IS TORAH.
I judge and compare according to the Torah from which all that Jesus Christ taught came.
I must judge lawful from unlawful and run from the unlawful.
yourpain
Are you aware first that what is called the Torah are the 5 books written by Moses? i.e the first 5 books of the Old Testament.
When Moses was with Jesus Christ on the mountain for 40 days and 40 nights Christ spoke the 5 books to Moses thus the Torah contains the WORD of God.
When the children of Israel entered the promised Land all they had was the Torah.
Are you aware that God holds the Torah so HOLY that He had Moses put those 5 books into the Arc of the Covenant along side of the two tables of stone on which the 10 Commandment were written by the finger of God.
yourpain do you know where the Arc is kept?? It is kept under the Mercy Seat which is the Throne of God the Father, that same Throne Christ now stands besides and both the Arc and the Mercy Seat are in the HOLY of HOLIES.
The Torah is so HOLY to GOD it is keep under HIS THRONE IN HEAVEN.
And in the Torah is God’s 10 Commandments His statutes and His judgements All of which Christ kept to perfection to become our Passover.
Also in that Torah is the Command to rest on God’s Sabbath and to assemble on GOD’s HOLY FEAST Days.
And you as do the vast majority of so called christians want is that HOLY BOOK to just vanish and not bother you.
Sorry what God has made HOLY IS ETERNAL and you are being judged by the TORAH not by what you want to be right or wrong.
Did Jesus Christ not state very clearly that our duty is to LIVE BY EVERY WORD OF GOD AND IS THE TORAH NOT THE WORD OF GOD??
The DEMON Troothytits
Did Jesus Christ not state very clearly that our duty is to LIVE BY EVERY WORD OF aAND IS THE TORAH NOT THE WORD OF GOD??
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No one but a LURING DEMON mentions Jesus and the word in the same sentence and then argues malevolently (based on what he has seen in the movies) that the TORAH is the Word of God.
And I’m still waiting DEMON for you to tell me WHY your ‘Father’ YHWH has a (Holy) Ghost.
to make my point…I do observe the Holy days. Your approach is founded, not in love, but in condemnation and rebuke; a glaring self righteousness that will lead to zero fruitage and zero listeners. It is a rhetoric that says I am right and you are wrong and in NONE of this is Christ edified or His Body here on earth. If you are this driven towards ministry, take your boots and get into the streets and be the light in the darkness that you so desire to illuminate as do I.
Sounds like you’re about all out of arguments, yourpain, and now you’re typically going to focus on the messenger personally rather than the message.
yourpain
Do you know who hated Jesus Christ and called Him every sort of evil ??? the establishment religious folks of the day and today that is the so called christians that DO NOT FOLLOW THAT WAY CHRIST BLAZED FOR HIS DISCIPLES TO FOLLOW.
Christ has stated for the record that “in that day” many will tell Him they did many wonderful works and He will respond “I never knew you”
Wide is the way that leads to destruction and narrow is the WAY that leads to life I have chosen that narrow difficult WAY
that way that is followed by the .01 %
You are obviously on that wide way where everyone is a real christian, all 40,000 diverse flavors of them are just fine.
That yourpain is called “confusion”
in this case mayhem, the messenger is carrying the message in a manner that needs to be called out. this is a man calling me religious, a celebrater of pagan holidays, a Sunday worshipper – none of which are accurate. It is a shame folks approach truth as he does in such a self righteous and holier than thou manner, and it makes me ill to know there are folks like him out there representing a Loving savior in such an ugly manner. It is truly gross.
Yourpain
First, if you do observe the 7 Holy Feasts of God and His Holy Sabbath then I apologize as I obviously misunderstood your train of thought.
It seemed to me you were saying all flavors of so called Christianity are fine and they most certainly are NOT. There is only ONE WAY into the Kingdom of God and it is very narrow WAY that FEW find.
On another point, Jesus Christ did not come to convert the whole world and He was not at all nice to the priest etc. He called them out for their lies and hypocrisy which is what I do. I am not trying to convert anyone, that’s Jesus Christ’s job. And I am not trying to “bring anyone to Christ” that is our Father’s Job.
I am pointing out false doctrine as a warning to those calling themselves Christian and to those that refuse to obey Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ told HIS disciples to obey what those in the seat of Moses i.e. the priest and Torah attorneys told them to do BUT not to do AS THEY DID
Matthew 23:
1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat:
3 —All —- therefore whatsoever they bid — you observe—, that —observe and DO; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
In these 3 scriptures Jesus Christ is teaching His disciples to obey the Torah i.e. all 5 books of the LAW and that message is universally hated by so called Christians.
The Torah i.e. the WORD of GOD is eternal and is to be observed by those our Father calls to Christ TODAY and forever.
The Holy Law is one of the main subjects I write about and 99.5% of those on BIN HATE THE HOLY RIGHTEOUS LAW OF GOD which is why the time of the end is fast approaching.
If this is offends you that is your problem not mine.
The DEMON Troothytits
The Torah i.e. the WORD of GOD is eternal and is to be observed by those our Father calls to Christ TODAY and forever.
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OR WHAT? Answer: NOTHING!
OR WHAT? Answer: NOTHING!
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OR WHAT? Answer: NOTHING!
It is naught but a ministry of death
the comments here are entertaining
I want to be judged by God. i want it to be known to the world of my innocence, in spite of the many wicked and sinful things I have participated in. The quality of my repentance is the most important thing in God’s eyes. He did not need to kill someone to make it possible for Him to look upon me with love and compassion. He did anyway. Yes I want to be judged by God. I want my works and intentions to be revealed, to his glory, that I chose good over evil more often than the other way around. God knows what it cost me to be true and bring my life into accordance with the laws he placed down at Mt Sinai. He knows my pathetic attempts. But none of that even matters. If when He looks at me, and all the evil and filth is vaporised under his gaze, then, any Torah that I have and implemented in my life will remain. This will be my reward. If I have no Torah, I have nothing to show for any obedience……obedience to what I might ask….obedience to something that God never required?
Judge me now, please oh God that I may be preserved on that terrible day.
“Do not be decieved…”- there remains today such sound reason why these words were echoed by our Lord often and in introduction to important lessons He taught His followers. Today we see these deceptions played out in real time and daily. The truth is, the simplicity of the Gospel that Paul spoke of being confused is confusing because those not in Christ Jesus and lacking the Holy Spirit search for truth in doctrine and fables until one is found that feels good to them. We have folks who have attached themselves to this whole serpent seed Kenite/Shepherd’s Chapel load of lies and modern day Judaizers who climb back up and drag the Torah down from the cross being the two largest of offenders creeping into the ecclesia like a sheep in wolves clothing. The followers tend to be the most easily offended because of a sand filled foundation that they have built for themselves. It is really sad to me, because I know there is a heart for truth there, but always trumping this is a self righteous in wanting to be right, instead of trusting in the one who is. Ill go ahead and say it – You might as well be in a bar and bellied up to the drink…you are drunk on these lies because you lack Holy Spirit and you feel that you are right. You reside in the land of Nod so far exiled from the reality of a Spirit filled, Christ indwelt relationship. You are all ships lost at sea and wouldnt recognize Jesus if He was sitting next to you..because HE IS NOT IN YOU!
Acts 15:5-6 “But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, “It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.” Now the apostles and elders came together to consider this matter.” And we should consider their response…V:10″Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?…What was this yoke? We are told in specifically in V:23-24. At the end of their letter, “we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, ‘You must be circumcised and keep the law’– to whom we gave no such commandment”. You Torah Keepers are all but removing Pauline letters, negating that Jesus used Him as a light unto the nations. You want so bad to be right, never abandoning the notion that the truth is something that you find. As for my testimony…HE FOUND ME.
And you Kenite Seprent’s Seed believers…how fitting. This is a lie from the serpent and can be shown scripture after scripture but you always go back to the illogical thought that it is somehow about DNA and not plain old disobedience. You feel that because of what you believe you are right, thereby negating the power of the cross and the metamorphosis that can only be Spirit attributed. So So weak in faith that you are likley to change course upon the next feasible lie that comes your way. You are none of His.
Away from us and get behind us! We are led by a Holy Spirit that remains elusive and counfounding to you, and in truth, we desperately pray for your souls and wish you the best on your journey as you await the Hand of God reaching down from the heavens and showing you the love, grace and freedom found in trusting in the one who is, was and will always be. You certainly have a form of worship and religion, but deny the power thereof. This is the cold hard truth. Your PRIDE is your fall.
yourpain
You are speaking of the same so called ”gospel” that the vast majority of those calling themselves Christians preach.
I.e Christ came not wanting to insult a single person and taught LOVE and tried His best to save everyone.
Easily proven lie from the New Testament.
At His death there were only 120 disciples that were given the Holy Spirit on the HOLY Feast of Pentecost. not the 10′s of thousands He taught using parables to conceal His meaning.
Did you read what He did to those that made His Father’s house a house of merchandise? Twice!
What did He call the hypocrites that taught the Law but did not keep the Law?
“Christ is a weak little lamb that only LOVES” ? Nope!
Christ has a two edged sword with which HE will slay HIS enemies.
Have you ever read Revelation or Leviticus 26: 24 -39. Jesus Christ as KING of kings is going to walk contrary to the whole House of Israel in GREAT Wrath because they will not OBEY! and then the Gentiles until only 10% of the 7 + billions that live on this earth remain alive at His return.
All of the above is easily proven.
Ourpain have you ever read Isaiah 28??
9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
Those that can eat the strong meat of the WORD – those will be taught.
10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
To determine sound doctrine one must study precept by precept and scripture by scripture and then even the precepts and scriptures are scattered through out the entire Old and New Testament, a little here and a little there and must be assembled together and only then it will become clear IF GOD SO CHOOSES.
11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
Jesus Christ does not want the world to understand, His WORD is not clear it is hard to understand — and why because even if it was clear “yet they would not hear” they would refuse as they do even today.
12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
So verse 13 explains why the WORD is written so!
“that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.”
The Bible was written not to be understood.
13 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
The so called Christian world does not know Jesus Christ.
Now concerning your statement ;
“You Torah Keepers are all but removing Pauline letters, negating that Jesus used Him as a light unto the nations’ referring to Acts 15.
Have you read Acts 21
17And when we were come to Jerusalem, the brethren received us gladly.
18And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present.
19And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry.
20And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, —–how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law:
21And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.
22What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come.
23Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them;
24Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, —–ARE NOTHING; —- but that thou thyself ( PAUL) also walkest orderly, and —– keepest the LAW.
‘Are nothing’ –i.e. not true!
This statement seems to contradict Acts 15 —- verse 24 Paul “walkest orderly and KEEPEST THE LAW.
Here is Strong’s regarding the word Law used in verse 24
Strong’s Concordance
nomos: that which is assigned, hence usage, law
Original Word: νόμος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: nomos
Phonetic Spelling: (nom’-os)
Short Definition: a law, the Mosaic Law
Definition: usage, custom, law; in NT: of law in general, plur: of divine laws; of a force or influence impelling to action; of the Mosaic law; meton: of the books which contain the law, the Pentateuch, the Old Testament scriptures in general.
Because most of so called Christianity spends most of their time in the New Testament and they do not know the main body of the Word of GOD.
There are two laws of Moses here at work: the Law that was given to Moses on the mountain and the Law that was ADDED LATER because of transgressions of Law.
Paul was a highly trained Torah scholar who when speaking to the Jews did not distinguish between the Sacrificial Law and the HOLY LAW, because they understood. It was all the Law of Moses to them.
The added Sacrificial Law is the school master that points us to the blood Sacrifice for sin that Christ came to become i.e. our Passover.
Paul no longer offered animal sacrifices but Paul kept the Torah and thus walked orderly.
So what say you?? Can you put together all the scriptures and come to sound doctrine? Or as all do — pick and choose which scriptures you will follow and pitch out the balance?
Ps. I do not have a “soul” I am a soul i.e. “Nephesh” – a living breathing creature.
Strong’s Concordance
nephesh: a soul, living being, life, self, person, desire, passion, appetite, emotion
Original Word: נָ֫פֶשׁ
Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: nephesh
Phonetic Spelling: (neh’-fesh)
Short Definition: soul
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from an unused word
Definition
a soul, living being, life, self, person, desire, passion, appetite, emotion
NASB Translation
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Truthseeker – I want to tell you my testimony. We can go back and forth and in the end spin wheels and words until nothing is accomplished. The story of Father Son and Holy Spirit coming into this lost losers life will speak for itself. It was February 23, 2014 in a basement with nothing left to live for. I was so poor and just a big nothing. I had just left behind a home full of posessions in Colorado with nothing but the clothes on my back bc my parents demand was that as long as I stayed a Jehovah’s Witness and attended the Kingdom hall, I could have thier old home. I couldnt live that lie but knew not what or really, Who the truth was. I drove back to Cincinati without telling anyone with plans to take a bottle of pills and call it a life. Several weeks later, I had gotten a call from this servant/messenger of our Lord (3 days before 2/23/2014) and this woman was in tears bc she said she was being obedient and i would think she was just crazy. She said she had never been asked to deliver this kind of word but trusted in the one whom she recieved it from…Jesus. We were both members of a blog writing community and had obtained my contact info…She said I was chosen to be a vessel for Jesus Christ, and that my life was going to transform and I would have a new family soon. She told me from 1200 miles away things that day ONLY God knew about my life and my past and the people in my life that were going to be effected and come into Christ and I had never even met this woman… and it just blew me away…she told me what book chapter and verse I had just read and underlined in my bible. Romans 8:28-29 and said it was confirmation to me that this message was from Lord Jesus. I could hardly leave that room for a couple days in tears and prayer…on Feb 23, who GOD is and how he is and what the father son and holy spirit means and is came upon me as the presence of His Spirit made the tv fade into silence and He began to speak life into this man…what happened that day and afterwards is where His real testimony lies. The confirmations that happened were just mind boggling…I wonder if you will even believe me, but I want to tell you my testimony of Truth and how that very verse I was reading in Romans has played out in my life. I want to share with you the power of His indwelt presence. Call me if you would like to hear a fluid and Godly conversation about the work of the LORD in this otherwise simple man. 513-252-4484. All I ask is that you share a few minutes with me and hear, testimony. I did want to say I am sorry for my abrasive and really not very loving words as of late. It has bothered me enough to reach out and ask for forgiveness – I was wrong to attack instead of rely on His Word. Please find it in your heart to call me and edify the God and salvation in our lves. I want you to hear the testimony of Jesus in this life of mine. I believe I am reaching out to you for a reason and purpose today. Pray upon this and act thereafter as your heart is led. Kind regards Dennis Cooper in Cincinnati Ohio
Yourpainhasapurpose.
Thank you for explaining why you are passionate about what has taken place in your life.
Now that you have given your name and number be very careful as there are some very evil folks here on BIN, they will do you harm if allowed. A few are possessed by demons.
I will consider calling you but I have two hesitation; revealing my name and number.
I expect so called christians to soon begin to turn on those that are not in the main stream of doctrine and that would be me.
I will give a short back ground, I hated “religion” and never was evolved to even a small extent growing up.
Being called “religious or a christian” was to me the same as being call a queer. Simple fact I am a man’s man. I am not a “girly man” as that actor terms it.
After marriage and one child I was challenged by a fellow in 1968 that had a nonreligious, non main stream understanding of the Bible.
I am “fact and logic” driven, not emotions, and after reading the Bible for the first time and doing so 6 times in one year I came to see what I had been shown from the Bible was the truth and I have held to that truth since that time.
I have nothing to do with any of the 40,000 kinds or types of christianity, I do fellowship on the Sabbath with a few like minded people ( a handful) and I keep the 7 Feasts of God, I live by the Torah as did Christ, His disciples and apostles..
As I have stated many times on BIN I live that WAY, that same WAY Christ lived and gave as the example we are to follow.
I began following this WAY in 1969 and still do today.
After all of these decades of living, studying, watching how others live and watching the results of living contrary to that perfect WAY Christ set as our example to follow — I have seen proof this WAY – IS — THAT WAY of GOD the Father and of HIS Son Jesus Christ. Thus I find my self in the .01% .
The 2nd hesitation on my part; I have been aware of others with similar experiences
and must look at them from the stand point of the WORD of GOD.
As you know by now the GOD I serve and follow is the GOD of ORDER and LAW and I hold fast to the WORD of GOD thus when that WORD tells me: if they speak not according to the Law there is no truth in them”
Isaiah 8
20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
And the testimony is the 10 Commandments and the LAW, the Torah i.e. the 5 books of Moses. The 10 commandments are the “testimony” testifying, we are sinners.
Exodus 40
20 And he took and put the testimony into the ark, and set the staves on the ark, and put the mercy seat above upon the ark:
21 And he brought the ark into the tabernacle, and set up the vail of the covering, and covered the ark of the testimony; as the LORD commanded Moses.
Exodus 32
15 And Moses turned, and went down from the mount, —-and the two tables of the testimony——were in his hand: the tables were written on both their sides; on the one side and on the other were they written.
The 2 stone tables on which are written, by the finger of Jesus Christ, the 10 Commandments ARE the testimony against mankind.
My intent, my focus is to live by EVERY WORD OF GOD and not by or from emotional spiritual experiences.
What you have experienced is from the spirit realm and I can recount many such events that have taken place. Even my sister has had many and she now sits with other like minded folks in her back yard at full moons beating on drums and calling down “spirits”.
She had lips on the wall telling her she is special and from that moment on she could from memory recite any bible verse.
Needless to say I avoid my sister.
What I am attempting to say, talking to me may or may not be in your best interest or mine.
If you still want to talk I will find a way to hide my identity.
troothytits
I am “fact and logic” driven, not emotions, and after reading the Bible for the first time and doing so 6 times in one year I came to see what I had been shown from the Bible was the truth and I have held to that truth since that time.
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You have admitted repeatedly that you learned your Christianity from watching Charlton Heston movies.
@yourpain – Can you reconcile these 3 comments of yours…
It is a shame folks approach truth as he does in such a self righteous and holier than thou manner
“You might as well be in a bar and bellied up to the drink…you are drunk on these lies because you lack Holy Spirit and you feel that you are right. You reside in the land of Nod so far exiled from the reality of a Spirit filled, Christ indwelt relationship. You are all ships lost at sea and wouldnt recognize Jesus if He was sitting next to you..because HE IS NOT IN YOU!”
“Away from us and get behind us! We are led by a Holy Spirit that remains elusive and counfounding to you, and in truth, we desperately pray for your souls and wish you the best on your journey as you await the Hand of God reaching down from the heavens and showing you the love, grace and freedom found in trusting in the one who is, was and will always be. You certainly have a form of worship and religion, but deny the power thereof. This is the cold hard truth. Your PRIDE is your fall.”
… because it looks like hipocrisy to me, hmm?
Mayhem
I know I am getting “rougher” on folks because I see the time is getting shorter, I follow the economic and financial world closely — I do not know when but I am sure the door to a world wide financial collapse has opened and one day soon the entire world will change.
I can not save a single person, that is a fact, I can not open the mind of a single person that also is a fact, I do not know what else to do but warn folks to wake up for the time of the end is upon us and if I at least put a tiny speck of truth in their mind it may help them at some point.
It is very possible the internet will be closed to what we do here on BIN which is another reason to speak boldly and clearly the understanding of God’s Word I have been given.
You are one of the few on BIN that “gets” it, the others like Maxwell and destined are blind and nothing enters their heads — it will take the time of the end to wake them up. that is so sad.
Get ready my friend, what is coming is too horrible to contemplate.
…Its a funny thing about “self awareness”, and humility…Only in humility can the soul of a man, view the reality of his own identity.
…Other wise, you’re just looking at “who you THINK you are”. One thing you don’t want to trust, is your, estimation, of your own character.
maxie
I thought you were done with me???
Max I know too well what I am: because of the kindness of my Father He called me while I was yet an unrepentant worthless sinner.
And He cleansed me of my sin by the blood of HIS SON.
Many folks use the term grace but it also means kindness.
Because of my Father love for a worthless sinner and because of the incredible kindness only my Father has — I am a forgiven man today, and because of the sacrifice of my savior I am no longer “under” the penalty of death.
…mercy goes both ways, seeker.
maxwell
I just repeated to destined the command “cry aloud and spare NOT!”
I am not trying to make friends.
I am not trying to convert or bring anyone “To Jesus”.
I am not trying to make folks “feel” good.
All I can do is warn of what is coming and WHY.
The WHY is SIN!
unless this nation repents of sinning against God the Father and returns to obey the “WORD of GOD”, every single word, God is going to “walk contrary to us in GREAT WRATH.
Max this nation and all the nations of the House of Israel — will not repent.
The cup of our sins has run over and very soon God will turn HIS back to America and England and we will be totally destroyed.
As in all things max there is a time for mercy and a time for no mercy.
I was wrong and hypocritical…you are right. I hate that part of me that condescends to others and you are right to point it out. The more time I spend on the www the more opportunity it seems there is to divide rather than unite in many regards. I repent of this pride within because in reading your comment…I was cut to the bone and wrong. Sorry Seeker – I was wrong to approach anyone in this manner