Stunning Citizen Roll Over – What Happened To “…From My Cold Dead Hands.”
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Colorado --(Ammoland.com)- Recently an incredibly reliable source with the highest access to this type of information informed me of the following. This is not some Internet conspiracy crap, this is the real deal, it really happened.
Back a few years ago when the so-called “D.C. snipers” were murdering people in the Washington D.C. area a new plan was enacted by conventional police in the Maryland and Virginia urban areas.
The killers used a .223 (5.56mm NATO) caliber rifle. The police found ejected cases at the crime scenes. So the local police hatched the following scheme. Go to various sporting goods stores and gun shops and get the 4473 Federal firearm registrations on anyone with a rifle in that particular caliber and contact them at their home in that area.
But the 4473 research is the domain of the ATF, they needed Federal assistance so ATF and FBI cooperation was gained and the police gained full access to the gun forms. Copies of the registrations were made and contact lists devised.
The local police would go to the firearm owner’s house and ask “PLEASE could we have your rifle to take down to our offices, test fire and compare the cartridge cases with those found at the crime scene.” Quit laughing, it gets worse.
With a simple “Please may we have your rifle…” to prove your innocence, the police were not only given the owner’s registered sale 4473 rifle(s) but in many cases the citizens had other .223 caliber rifles that were NOT on the new purchased 4473 forms and many of these guns were also voluntarily offered up by the cooperating owners to the police. And all it took was a simple “please.”
And, it gets worse. Many of the gun clubs and gun ranges in these areas maintain records on members or guests and the particular guns they are using on that day at the range, etc. Those records were immediately offered up to the police by the gun clubs and ranges. NONE of this was done through a warrant of any kind. Just a simple please…
The numbers of people that offered up their guns was “officially” found to be well over 90 percent (It approximated nearly 98 percent!). Of those who refused to turn in their guns for the testing (among them probably the killers if they were located in the first place) the contacting police officers would then resort to stronger verbal and intimidation techniques. The resisting gun owners basically replied “If you get a court order I will turn in my firearms, until then, no!” No court orders were never requested or obtained.
The firearms (most) were returned to the gun owners. However, the cartridge cases and identifying information have been coordinated and retained by the police and therefore constitute a voluntary (by the gun owners) cartridge case identification registration forever linked to their gun(s).
The stupidity:
- Citizens were more than happy to “PROVE” THEIR INNOCENCE to the police.
- Citizens turned in their guns to the police for a simple PLEASE.
- People wanted to help catch the killers–by turning in their own guns.
- Gun clubs and shooting ranges voluntarily turned in their (NON-REQUIRED) records on members and visitors.
We are a country of sheep. …from my cold dead hands indeed.
Source: http://www.ammoland.com/2014/01/stunning-citizen-roll-over-what-happened-to-from-my-cold-dead-hands/
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Nice try comrade, but this data is not accurate nor is it completely true. Based on recent poles the majority would defy any such legislation to confiscate guns.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/14372-vast-majority-of-gun-owners-would-defy-ban-poll-shows
I think there is a vast difference between what people say they would do and what they would really do when the levee breaks. What you are talking about is a poll, the story is what really happened not what if… If the gov threatens to cancel the people’s cell fones, they would give up everything, guns, kids, cars, spouses, everything…
you are so right. if I had a dime for every time someone posted “we’ll fight to the death for our freedoms!!!” on some forum? we’d be a free country and i’d be a millionaire.
none of this should be a surprise. how do you think America has gotten into the state its in? by our citizens taking the easy way ou for decadest, doing nothing- but bluster while making the decision to watch TV instead of ACTING to change things. the vast majority gladly spends HOURs and days organizing Superbowl parties and all manner of useless rubbish. but spend the same time organizing neighbors for civic duty? LOLOLOL
Babylon has made its choice and so here we are.
Now! The spouse & the kids?? I believe it!
The car, humhhhhhh??? Guns??? I’m skeptic?
agreed; most are keyboard warriors but in real life…hmmm
This is disgusting. Where in our Constitution does it hint at that US citizens are required to prove their innocence? What window was used to throw out the part about “innocent until proven guilty”?. When citizens begin abdicating their rights they are inviting the government to kick down their doors the next time the government gets a burr up its but and decides that we might be guilty of some other imagined infraction. My home in Prague was trespassed by state secrete police. Trust me, you will not like it when it happens to you. Do not give up your Constitutional rights without protest. Once you allow a bully to dominate you that bully and all his gang will continue to put their boots to your throat over and over again. In Europe when the first person allowed himself be herded into cattle cars, it opened the door to mass murder of millions of Jews, Slaves, and others declared domestic enemies of the state. They were not terrorists. They were ordinary men and women of all ages, including the very young and babies. Once the dam of state terror is allowed to overrun, stopping it becomes a task of unimaginable magnitude. We must stop it now or drown very soon. We have to use the power of the ballot to prevent the catastrophe awaiting around the corner. Get involved in the election process along with your family, friends, and neighbors. Vote for patriots that will protect your Constitutional rights.
In1861 the constitution was suspended, millions of Jews didn’t perish at the hands of the Germans, and voting is an illusion of choice. And 1984 has arrived in fact and function. The American people will probably get the pleasant chance to deal with the police state soon to be on your doorstep.
Total nonsense. An “incredibly reliable source” is left unnamed. This is not journalism but pandering to the gun paranoids.
I notice that only % are reported…
Was this 9 out of 10…29 out of 30… 98 out of 100 ??? maybe 3 out of 4 when 2 of them had extra guns in .223 cal ???
The “making copies” of the BATF forms sounds illegal – review them, as LEO, yes…copy them, NO.
Wonder if they would like to try this today, in Miles City, MT… eh?.
NOTICE THIS WAS BACK EAST IN THE LIBERAL HOMELAND….
I’VE ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT OUT OF 130 MILLION GUN OWNERS, ONLY 3 PERCENT WILL MAN UP AND DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. 3 PERCENT OF 130 MILLION IS 3 MILLION 900 THOUSAND FREE MEN WITH GUNS. IF A HAND FULL OF MOUNTAIN GOAT HERDERS IN AFGHANISTAN CAN KEEP THE AMERICAN MILITARY AT BAY. WE CAN SURE AS HELL DEAL WITH DHS AND FEMA IN CONDUCTING GURRILLA WAR OPERATIONS.
AMEN
Probably a true statement giving what NY and CT people are doing who know how many in DC which started around the same time as NY And CT with thier forced registration programs.
I’ve been told by a liberal now doubt that 4473′s are a back door registration program because whle working at a gun shop he noted atf coing in and taking all their 4473′s.
Read a story a while back about how cops traced a gun stolen, or used in a crime back to it’s owner that was never registered so how did they get that info?
4473s thats how so ya
Americans after Boston allowed themselves to be forceablly ousted out of their homes durin a martial law excercise looking for those bombers so ya americans are sheep!
Cops beat us kill us and all we so is sue or protest a bit come one the second amendment was to help guard against tyranny ant not to roll over!
So ya his numbers maybe a bit skewed but were seeing the rality of it now with forced registrations going on and not a shot one !