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Time to Debunk the Skeptics: COVID-19 Has a Death Rate That Is About 34 Times Higher Than the Flu

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Michael Snyder is the publisher of The Economic Collapse Blog, The American Dream Blog and The Truth. You can follow him on Twitter right here

COVID-19 is an extremely deadly virus, and nobody should be trying to downplay the severity of this outbreak.  By now, you have probably heard a lot of people try to convince you that COVID-19 is not that dangerous because the flu has killed far more people this winter.  And that is true.  But what they aren’t telling you is the death rate from the flu is extremely low.  Tens of thousands of Americans die from the flu each year, but if this coronavirus spreads all over the planet the death toll will be in the tens of millions.  This coronavirus outbreak is likely only in the very early stages, and if it becomes as widespread as the flu, it will become a public health crisis unlike anything we have ever faced in modern times.

After taking a look at the numbers, hopefully you will understand what I am trying to say.

On Tuesday, the World Health Organization announced that the global death rate for COVID-19 is now 3.4 percent

World health officials said Tuesday the case fatality rate for COVID-19 is 3.4% globally, higher than previous estimates of about 2%.

“Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died,” WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said during a press briefing at the agency’s headquarters in Geneva. In comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected, he said.

I have a feeling that number will continue to go up, but for the purposes of this article let’s assume that number if accurate.

As for the flu, the CDC says that there will be between 32 million and 45 million illnesses in the United States during this flu season, and somewhere between 18,000 and 46,000 deaths.

That means that the death rate from the flu this year will be about one-tenth of one percent.

So can we please stop with the comparisons between COVID-19 and the flu?

COVID-19 is at least 34 times more deadly, and experts are warning that up to 70 percent of the global population could ultimately catch the virus.

If that happens, we will see a death toll in the tens of millions at a minimum.

Here in the United States, the death rate is running well above 3.4 percent so far.  Out of 118 confirmed cases, nine victims have died so far

The eighth and ninth persons confirmed to have died in the U.S. from the coronavirus lived in Washington state, just like the previous seven victims. Washington accounts for 27 of the 118 cases so far reported in the U.S., and state officials said 231 people are under public health supervision.

I have a feeling that the death rate in the U.S. will go down once we start testing more people, but we will see.

At this point, coronavirus clusters are starting to pop up all over the nation.  For example, the number of victims in Santa Clara County has now risen to 11

Santa Clara County announces 2 new cases of COVID-19 Total now 11.

Over on the east coast, a newly confirmed case in New York City is making headlines.  Authorities are telling us that it is a “community spread case”, and this particular victim just happens to be a lawyer with a firm in midtown Manhattan

The latest coronavirus case in New York City is a 50-year-old lawyer who resides in Westchester County, about 20 miles north of New York City, and is a partner at a firm based in midtown Manhattan, multiple sources confirmed to Business Insider. The office building is in the vicinity of Grand Central Terminal, which sees about 750,000 daily commuters.

Before he was finally diagnosed, was he spreading the virus to countless others in midtown Manhattan?

We shall see what happens in the coming days.

As I discussed yesterday, the U.S. has been much slower than other nations to conduct widespread testing for the virus, and it looks like that was a major mistake.

Down in South Florida, one woman was recently told by her doctor that she probably has COVID-19, but officials refused to test her for it

In what may be the first case of coronavirus in South Florida, a woman who recently returned home from Italy says she was told by doctors at Jackson Memorial Hospital that she “likely” has COVID-19, but that they are unable to verify it because state and federal officials refused to conduct the necessary tests to confirm it.

“The doctor himself told me that, you know, he thinks that the results of my [preliminary] tests mean that I most likely have the COVID-19, but that the Department of Health did not want to pursue it further,” said the woman, who requested that her name not be used to protect her privacy. “It was either the Department of Health or the CDC that decided not to further pursue the inquiry. But I was basically told that it is most likely that I have this virus and that I should self-quarantine.”

As Dr. Matt McCarthy has said, this refusal to test probable patients is a national scandal.  There is no excuse for this sort of negligence, and it has the potential to create all sorts of problems.

At this point, fear is spreading like wildfire all over the nation.  Due to concerns about COVID-19, Twitter is asking “its entire workforce” to “work from home”

Twitter is asking its entire workforce of 5,000 people to work from home, part of its effort to keep employees safe and prevent the spread of the coronavirus. The company said working from home was mandatory for its workers in Hong Kong, Japan and South Korea, where there are higher rates of the COVID-19 disease.

Other companies are taking similar steps, and this will inevitably slow down the economy.

But this could be just the beginning.  If you can believe it, one NBA owner is actually saying that the NBA could eventually “ban fans” from games if things get bad enough…

Marc Lasry, co-owner of the NBA’s Milwaukee Bucks, told CNBC on Tuesday that sporting events could possibly ban fans if the coronavirus outbreak worsens.

“If you’re going to do it to basketball, you’re going to do it to baseball,” Lasry said on “Fast Money.” “I hope we don’t get there.”

I hope we don’t get there either.

Because once we start banning public gatherings, we won’t be able to go back to normal until this pandemic is over.

And sometimes pandemics can last for a very long time.  The Spanish Flu pandemic lasted for three years and killed tens of millions of people.  If what we are facing is similar, then all of our lives are about to change in a major way.

Sadly, some people are saying that if they get the virus they will actually purposely go into large crowds to try to spread it.  Here is one example

Denver Councilwoman Candi CdeBaca is getting major blowback over a controversial tweet sent on Friday.

CdeBaca quoted a tweet that said, “For the record, if I do get the coronavirus I’m attending every MAGA rally I can.”

How sick in the head do you have to be to say something like that?

We live at a time when hearts are growing very cold, and it is only going to get worse as time rolls along.

Hopefully by now most of my readers understand that we need to take COVID-19 very seriously.

This isn’t anything like the flu.  This is an extremely deadly virus that has the potential to kill millions of Americans.

Let us continue to keep praying that this outbreak will eventually subside, but let us also continue to brace ourselves for a worst case scenario.


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    • Anonymous

      Ha Ha Ha Ha – Thats a really Funny One ….. MATH Obviously Not Yor Strong Point Is It

      In 2 Months Caronavirus killed – 3,000 Sick., Old & Already Dying Chinese – A TINY 50 Deaths Per Day out of 1.4 BILLION Chinese

      In CHINA on average Seasonal FLU KILLS >>>>> 88,000

      According To BOZO MAN Headline ….. That Should Be >>>THE OTHER WAY ROUND – LOL

      AS YOU WILL SEE FROM THE DIRECTOR OF THE W.H.O – After 2 MONTHS – GLOBAL >>> 67 DEATHS >> WORLDWIDE
      exc China

      Its an insignificant irrelevance In VIRUS Terms
      ………………………………………………………..

      PS As you will see below on top of the 75/80,000 Confirmed Cases – There Are At LEAST 3/4 MILLION cases with no symptoms or so mild nobody notice them
      - Add those into your calculation
      ………………………………………
      in Fact I will make it easy and CRUNCH Some Real World Health Org Numbers For You

      The World Population is of the order of 7.8 billion.

      The population of China is of the order of 1.4 billion.

      The World population minus China is of the order of 6.4 billion.

      4691 confirmed cases and 67 reported deaths (outside China) out of a population of 6.4 billion does not constitute a pandemic.4691/6,4oo,ooo,ooo =0.00000073 (in percentage tems 0.000073 %)

      64 cases in the US which has a population of approximately 330 million is not a pandemic.
      (Feb 28 data): 64/330,000,000 = 0.00000019 (In Percentage Terms 0.000019 %)

      Less than 6 DECIMAL PLACES … 0. 000 000 17/73

      Totally Laughable

    • Anonymous

      HERE ARE >>> SOME REAL TRUTH, FACTS FROM >>> REAL QUALIFIED EXPERTS – WELL WORTH YOUR TIME
      ………………………………………………….>>>READ ON >>>

      So MILD >>> 95% Of Cases >>> WON’T EVEN NEED TO GO … TO A DOCTOR !!!

      Lets Hear From ….. Dr Craig Dalton is a public health physician and conjoint Associate Professor at the University of Newcastle, Australia.
      He is a former CDC …… Epidemic Intelligence …. Service Officer
      - and runs Flutracking.net one of the largest national surveillance systems …. for influenza-like illness in the world.
      …………………………….

      There are many countries with cases that haven’t ….. even detected their ….first cases yet.
      They may have ….thousands of cases…. Before…. the first case is detected.
      - Because …most cases >>>> wont go to a doctor ……

      - In fact ….. most likely >>> 95% >>> are mild
      (allowing for surveillance biases towards more severe cases).

      https://seekingalpha.com/instablog/48606151-craig-dalton/5413058-update-analysts-are-starting-to-understand-coronavirus
      ……………………………………………………………………………………………………
      ANOTHER EXPERT >>> CARONAVIRUS – SO MILD – YOU WOULDN’T… FIND CASES
      >>> WITHOUT ….. MASS TESTING – & LOOKING FOR IT

      Marc Lipsitch, professor of epidemiology >>> at the Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health. He noted that Guangdong, a province in China, conducted surveillance
      - testing of 300,000 people in fever clinics
      - to find about 420 positive cases.

      “If you don’t look,>>>> you won’t find cases,” he said.

      https://www.propublica.org/article/cdc-coronavirus-covid-19-test
      ……………………..…..………..……………………………………………………..…………………

      28 February 2020 >>> WHO Director-General’s…. opening remarks

      As of 6am Geneva time this morning, China has reported a total of 78,959 cases of COVID-19 to WHO, including 2791 deaths.

      Outside China, there are now 4351 cases>>>> in 49 countries, >>>>and 67 deaths.

      Our greatest enemy right now ….is not the virus itself. …. It’s >>>> fear & rumours

      https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19—28-february-2020
      …………………………………………….
      REPEAT WORLDWIDE … OUTSIDE CHINA >>> A TINY TINY INSIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF …. TOTAL DEATHS >>> JUST 67

      ….. BEING PREDOMINANTLY – THE USUAL _ THE OLD, – THOSE WITH SERIOUS UNDERLYING MEDICAL CONDITIONS – THE IMMUNO-COMPROMISED – AND THOSE ALREADY NEAR DEATH ANYWAY.
      …………………………………………….
      IN ADDITION FEB 25th
      RECOVERIES – ARE ALREADY SURPASSING ……the total number of …..daily new infections
      for the first time.

      That occurred on February 19th, …. according to Johns Hopkins University tracking, when there were 439 new cases…. and approximately >>>> 1,800 recoveries.

      The trend has continued since then >>> with fewer than 600 new confirmed COVID-19 cases each day >>>> and an even greater number ….of recoveries.

      https://www.statista.com/chart/20943/new-daily-confirmed-covid-19-cases-and-recoveries
      ……………………………………………………………………………………………………….
      YES … It’s A – Cute Pussycat Of A Virus – In VIRAL TERMS (Yes Really) – READ ON >>>>

      Some TRUTH, FACTS & ACTUAL GENUINE USEFUL INFO
      THE TRUTH IS >>> The Caronavirus PlayBook Is Already Written.

      It’s just a repeat of ……the H1N1 Swine Flu (SARS, MERS, BIRD FLU, EBOLA) – They All Run
      The Same – Fake Propaganda Virus Playbook
      And We Are – Just heading into – Chapter 2.

      So How Did SWINE FLU H1N1 PANDEMIC END >>> Well …, At The End Of 18 months of Swine Flu – Fear Porn

      - The World Health Organisation WHO declared …. the pandemic over – & during the >>> 18 months it had killed JUST ..18,500 people globally

      - averaging the figures of lab confirmed deaths – from the 214 countries that report to the W.H.O
      >>>> That averages out at >>>> LESS THAN 90 (as in Ninety) …. Swine Flu Deaths Per Country
      ……………………………………………………………….
      In Hindsight The 18 months of relentless fear porn fake propaganda headlines, >>> were over ……an insignificant, irrelevant virus – Killing On Average …. Just 90 People – PER Country !!
      ………………………………………………
      QUOTE W.H.O OWN WEBSITE
      6 August 2010 – As of 1 August 2010, worldwide… more than 214 countries and overseas territories or communities >>>> have reported laboratory confirmed cases …. of pandemic influenza H1N1 2009, including over >>> 18449 deaths.
      LINK TO W.H.O. OFFICIAL WEBSITE Confirmation Of Above FACT !! >>> https://www.who.int/csr/don/2010_08_06/en/

      And – This CARONAVIRUS >>> Will Be A Repeat.
      ……………………………………..
      Caronavirus Took 2 Months/60 Days To Kill 2,400 (ie a TINY 40 Per Day)

      - of old, sick, frail, immuno-compromised and already on their last legs Chinese

      - Up to 95% of Infected – Have Symptoms – So Mild – They Won’t Even Notice
      - and in most countries – hasn’t even reached a THOUSAND infected

      Regular Annual Flu – Kills 88,000 …Chinese per year

      7 Million Chinese… Die Of All Causes Per Year

      -vs- Caronavirus – UNDER 3,000 !!!

      Read the facts – Engage Brain & Common Sense – It’s an insignificant irrelevance – the rest is Rinse & Repeat VIRAL FEAR PORN
      ……………………………………………………….…
      LETS GET AN OVERALL OPINION FROM EXPERTS – AT THE UK NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE (PUBLISHED IN A UK NATIONAL NEWSPAPER) – THE INDEPENDENT

      28/Feb/2020 …. QUOTE….
      “As a member of the public….. you might get… coronavirus

      >>> but your chances…. of being ill …. and in hospital >>>>>is not high.

      On a person …. by person basis >>>>>> IT IS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT
      (UNQUOTE)

      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-uk-deaths-nhs-intensive-care-flu-wise-men-protocol-a9361916.html
      …………………………………………………………………………………
      So – Total Prepping Required – IF you are one of the …very few that do get infected
      - and NOT one of the 90/95% infected that exhibit >>> NO Symptoms

      Or Symptoms >>>> So MILD – You Would’t Even Notice Them …..
      - then…………
      It may be prudent to perhaps – buy a small box ….of paper hankerchiefs/tissues… & Voila …..FULLY PREPPED & Ready

      >>> READ ON
      …………………………………
      LETS GET INITIAL OFFICIAL >>> GOVERNMENT CONFIRMATION ….(Fuller Details Lower Down on THE ACTUAL NUMBERS)

      ………….CANADIAN GOVERNMENT / HEALTH CANADA …………….

      QUOTE “coronaviruses are common …..and are typically associated ….with mild illnesses,
      similar to the common cold. (Unquote)

      QUOTE >>> Those who are infected with COVID-19 may >>>>have little to >>> NO symptoms.

      You may… NOT KNOW ……you have symptoms ….of COVID-19
      because they are similar to …. a COLD or flu. (UNQUOTE)

      https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/2019-novel-coronavirus-infection/symptoms.html
      (& see Quotes At Bottom)
      …………………………………….…………….
      For the… very few …that do get infected noticeable symptoms, …. typical signs include
      - A RUNNY NOSE
      - A COUGH
      - A SORE THROAT / Fever (high temperature).

      The vast majority of patients – at least 97 per cent, ….. based on available data – will recover from these

      >>>> without any issues ….. or medical help.

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7987001/Death-toll-killer-coronavirus-10-TIMES-higher-average-Chinas-Hubei-province.html
      ………………………………………………….
      Its such a happy clappy insignificant symptoms virus – its about as pleasant as you could make – thank you to God or Whoever
      - A Good Job !

      Lest We Forget ….. Ooooh 53 Suspected Cases Out Of 300 MILLION Americans – That’s ‘erm, well – nicely .… very significantly LESS than a PI$$ In The Ocean too really ….isn’t it

      And Based On How Things Have Gone In CHINA So Far – It A case Of >>>> READ ON
      …………………………………………………………………………………………….

      MOVE ALONG FOLKS – NOTHING TO SEE HERE – ALL OVER – JUST MOVE ALONG – GET ON WITH YOUR LIVES

      CHINA
      Yes 2,400 Died Of Caronavirous in 2 months (60 Days) – An Average >>> Really VERY TINY >> 40 Deaths A Day

      - Seasonal Flu Kills An Average 88,000 Per Year (Caronavirus Has Managed 2,400)

      - 7 MILLION Chinese Die Per Year – Caronavirus Has Accounted For 2,400

      And Studies/Reports State whilst there are only 80,000 Confirmed Infections – There Will be >>> 10X that number

      - YES 3/4 MILLION + with Symptoms SO MILD – they Won’t EVEN NOTICE THEM
      ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
      So Move Along Folks – Everywhere Is Opening Up Again – Just Move Along Folks – It Was Just The Usual Fear PORN – Move Along …CONTINUED

      INTERNATIONAL NEWS CHANEL RT NEWS ….. Evidence …..
      >>>> Propaganda Fatigue ….Setting In

      Already Macau CHINA , the world’s biggest gambling hub, …..will allow casinos to…. resume operations from…. February 20,
      …. after authorities imposed a two-week suspension to curb the coronavirus’ spread, authorities said on Monday,

      Macau has not reported >>> any new cases of the virus>>> since February 4, … officials said (As At 20 Feb)
      .
      There have been >>>> ONLY 10 … confirmed cases of the virus >>> in total there.

      Government services, which had mostly been suspended since the start of February, ….. have gradually resumed operations this week.

      https://www.rt.com/newsline/481005-macau-casinos-virus-fear/

      So Move Along Folks – Move Along – Nothing To see Here – Get On With Life – It’s All Over Folks 2,400 deaths and new cases plummeting -

      DEATHS >> Predominantly Sick, Elderly, Immunocompromised, & usual already on their last legs ….. out of 1.3 BILLION CHINESE
      ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
      NB 10 February 2020 BLOOMBERG

      The new coronavirus might have infected….. at least 500,000 people in Wuhan, ….the Chinese city at the epicenter of the global outbreak, …..by the time it peaks in coming weeks.

      But…… most of those people…..>>>> won’t even know it.

      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-08/virus-outbreak-in-wuhan-may-soon-peak-with-more-than-5-infected
      …………………………………………….
      LOS ANGELES TIMES
      Thousands of people in China and elsewhere ….have been infected ….. but have had…

      >>>> such mild reactions that >>>> no one even noticed,

      - said Dr. Tom Inglesby, director of the Center for Health Security at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

      https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-01-24/china-coronavirus-panic
      ……………………………………………………………………………………………..
      The UK’s NATIONAL BBC News COMMENTS

      – Re INFECTED – HAVING SUCH MILD REACTIONS >>> NO ONE NOTICED

      >>> FROM THE LARGEST STUDY TO DATE (The paper by the CCDC, released on Monday and published in the Chinese Journal of Epidemiology, looked at more than 44,000 confirmed cases of Covid-19 in China as of 11 February
      ………………………………….
      – So Known Infections Quoted In Study – 72,436 x 10 = 724,000 Who Will Have Had Symptoms – Too Mild – To Notice
      – YES >> ¾ Million
      …………………………………..
      QUOTE >>> Re The Known 72,436 infections

      - Scientists have estimated there could be …..10 times as many people infected ….. as are ending up in the official statistics.

      That ALSO means the….. overall death rate IN THE REST OF CHINA (Outside Hubei) is likely to be
      >>> lower than the 0.4% (rest of China) reported in this study (ie 10X LOWER – Making the death rate potentially ONLY 0.04)

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51540981
      ……………………………………………………………………..
      So Theres Proof Of Precedence – How This Caronavirus Runs

      So Ignore the PROPAGANDA FEAR PORN – ENGAGE BRAIN PUT COMMON SENSE IN GEAR & JUST PARTY ON

    • wheeties

      support the the corona beer virus-drink more corona! the freakin latinos have stopped drinkin corona beer ’cause they think they will get the virus!!!!!! sale are off 66 percent!!!! idiots,morons….

    • Slimey

      I’ll wait till it reaches “tens of mililon” as you said before I believe it is effective. Right now only a couple of dozen people have died for such a “pandemic”. :???:

      More people are killed by automobiles or abortion in one day then this virus has managed to kill since it existed.

      Having been very familiar with products Made In China you don’t have to worry about this virus. :wink:

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