Secession? or expulsion? Or both?

The “peaceful protests” now pasting screens with unforgettable images are spreading across the States. In doing so, the events and the motives and reasons for them seem to be creating still more divisions. And fears.

Nobody will deny that The Donald’s propensity is to be “in your face” on virtually everything he does. Obviously, the Trumpistas love that about him. For the rest of us, it is a reminder that he is not really a likeable or particularly moral man. Or yet another reason to hate him with incredible venom.

It is definitely a trait that is shared by many present Democratic politicians and office-holders. Gavin Newsom’s rhetoric is ramping up, also. Again, as with The Donald, this is hardly new.

After the first five or six days of the LA border-jumper-hunt by the Feds and the nicely-orchestrated riots (excuse us, “mostly peaceful protests”) we recently heard a spokesman for the border-jumpers now in Los Angeles in a radio-recording. We have been unable to get a name, but his remarks are curious.

He first announced that “we” have been “here” for thousands of years. We assume he refers to border-jumpers (“undocumented immigrants”) and not himself personally: he did not sound like a Methuselah. Does “here” mean Los Angeles? Maybe its vicinity?

Here is some history: the settlement of LA begin in AD 1781 with (legal) immigrants from other parts of New Spain. The first permanent “non-native” presence was just a few years before that, in 1769.

Archeologists tell us that from about 3000 BC to probably AD 1200, Hokan-speaking people occupied the LA area. Possibly because of the great drought (AD 1100-1300) in the Great Basin, they were pushed out by the Tongva. (Who called the area “Yas.” Neat!) By modern boundaries, neither the Hokan nor the Tongva people were “undocumented.” Neither were the New Spanish migrants. When the Nova-Spaniards came in 1781, about 5,000 Tongva lived in the 4,000 square miles of the LA Basin. (By the way, they practiced slavery, used recreational/religious drugs, and practiced cremation.)

They intermarried with the Nova-Spanish migrants (who soon became “Mexicans” but still not “undocumented” immigrants). It should be noted that many of these migrants had both AmerInd and African ancestry. These early Californios were part of the short-lived California Republic in 1846-1848. When Mexico was forced to sell California to the United States and California was admitted to the Union, it appears that most of these people if not all were recognized as citizens, if not all treated equally (or well). Although those of AmerInd descent who still practiced tribal customs were supposedly considered “non-persons.” But as recently as 2006, there were at least 2,000 Tongva still in the homelands they had invaded and conquered 800 or so years earlier. And definitely not “undocumented.”

Enough history for now. The conclusion? The modern border-jumpers or undocumented persons or illegal immigrants (those who have migrated to Los Angeles from areas outside the jurisdiction of the United States since, say 1975, the last 50 years) have not been here for “thousands of years.” Unless “here” refers to Planet Earth. Lies.

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But let us look at yet another piece of information this supporter of violent protests gave to the interviewer. He stated that he was opposed to capitalism and was working towards socialism and communism, at least in California (again, define “here”). So she asked him what form of these he supported, and which would work. What was his model to emulate? He was very specific in his answer.

He stated that the communism practiced in Soviet Russia for the first four years was the kind of communism or socialism that worked, and would work “here.”

Facinating. Is he talking about the period immediately after the Lenin-led October Revolution? With the Communists in power? History tells us about 1917-1921: many refer to it as “war communism” because it was during the Russian Civil War (the Reds against the Whites (anti-communists)). By 1922, many of communism’s tenets were temporarily set aside: some entrepreneurship and a tiny bit of free market was allowed by Lenin.

But what is notable about that period so praised by this unidentified protester? Somewhere between 7 and 12 million people were killed during that period. In 1921, a famine triggered by the war and government edicts killed an estimated 5 million lives. In 1917, it was estimated that Russia had 170 million people: so about 1/10th of the Russian people died in that four year period. Literally decimated.

Killing continued through the 1920s: the purges of kulaks and others added another million or so to the death toll. The Soviet Union did not have the 1917 population of 170 million until 1939.

By comparison, at that time the USA had 105 million people: a similar death toll in 1917-1921 would have been “just” 10 million. Today, with 320 million Americans (or more), that would be a staggering 32 million dead. Of course, maybe “here” is just California, with 40 million. So only 4 million Californians would be buried, burned, or left to rot and be eaten by rates. Only.

And perhaps this is why the Woke want that particular brand of Communism: of International Progressivism or Regressivism. We know that many Tranzis (we admit, not all) think that mankind is a plague upon the planet, and that populations need to be reduced. To them, the death toll of “war communism” and the famines and purges was a positive benefit.

If California were to secede, we might see such a death toll: despite Woke domination of the State and its huge urban areas (LA, San Diego, San Francisco Bay, and Sacramento), there are millions of people who would resist the full implementation of socialism or Lenin’s first four years of communism. Perhaps, instead, those who promote and instigate such a cataclysm should instead be expelled. Exiled to Coventry?

Just a bit of history and current events to think about. Your thoughts, dear readers?

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