MH17 Was MH370: Video Evidence Adds To Same Plane Theory

The MH17 was MH370 “Same Plane” theory gained credibility with Human Rights Investigations advising Tuesday that a closer look at the BUK video that Ukrainian Interior Minister, Arsen Avakov released July 18, the day after the M17 downing implicating Russia and pro-Russian rebels is evidence that is of extreme importance.

“The importance of this particular piece of evidence can not be overestimated,” Human Rights Investigation (HRI) reports.

The BUK missile system is believed to have been involved in downing Malaysia’s MH17 passenger plane. Also called SA-11 or SA-17, the BUK is a large ground-to-air missile that can reach a maximum altitude between 11,000 and 25,000 metres.

HRI provides the following key points for consideration:

1. It has been claimed that a video (below) was taken in Krasnodon, on the border with Russia.

2. Arsen Avakov claimed in a Facebook post that the video was taken by a special police surveillance team.

2. News outlets such as the Daily Mail and Paris Match still claim it was taken in Krasnodon, quoting official Ukrainian sources.

3. The Russians reacted to its release by claiming, during an official news conference, that the video was taken in an area held by Ukrainian forces.

4. The Russian claim was, predictably, followed by a wave of activity by internet sleuths out there.

5. The video was geo-located to an intersection in Lugansk, 50km from Krasnodon. The Russians were denounced as liars, but generally little was said about Ukraine’s original claim.

6. Avakov, the Ukrainian interior minister confirmed the correct location. The media, however, have continued to locate the video in Krasnodon, or said nothing about the matter.

7. HRI speculates that “the Russians aren’t stupid; that they didn’t know where this video was shot; that they wanted to know; and they do know now.”

8. The video is below.

9. According to LBC:

• ” The video appears to show the BUK launcher with one of the four missiles it carries missing.
• The film was allegedly shot by a police surveillance squad at dawn on Friday as the truck headed to the city of Krasnodon in the direction of the Russian border.
• The footage, released on the Facebook page of the Ukrainian interior minister, cannot be independently verified.
• Interior minister Arsen Avakov wrote on his page: “Criminals try to hide the traces of this heinous crime (but do) not succeed.
• “Security Service and Interior Ministry of Ukraine has collected and collects more irrefutable facts and evidence.”

10. The actual location is in the suburbs of Lugansk:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Luhansk,+Luhans%27ka+oblast,+Ukraine/@48.5449882,39.2665449,15z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x411fc564844c6285:0xf8e02e7e879e7164

Additional imagery from the intersection has been provided by a “local resident.”

11. The video has clearly been taken from inside a block of flats that provides a fairly long-distance view of the road.

12. It is clear that the person taking the film must have been aware that the vehicle (or at least a vehicle of interest) was coming down the road.

13. According to the Ukrainian authorities, this footage was taken by the police surveillance team at 4.50am on July 18th. This would be nearly 12 hours after MH17 was downed.

14. If the truck with BUK was travelling up from Snizhne (where the plane was allegedly shot down) the normal route would appear to be via the M04. The route it has gone down would appear to be a diversion, or an alternative route (or perhaps it was going somewhere else than Russia).

15. The turn-off from the obvious route (sticking to the M04) is only just over 1 km from the filming location in the flat.

16. It is, therefore, extremely unlikely the surveillance team who took the video was following the truck. It is more likely they knew it was coming, again meaning it is most likely they knew exactly what route it was taking.

17. They could have known what route it was taking and that it was coming, because of electronic intercepts, in which the driver said which way he was going to go (though why he would provide this detailed information to someone on the phone is a good question) or because the driver had told the police which way he was going, or they had told him which way to go.

18) If through electronic intercepts, why would the surveillance team choose a place to film from where it is impossible to see all the trailer and BUK details clearly – ie just well enough to make out that there seems to be a missile missing.

19) If the Ukrainians knew where this BUK and trailer was travelling, why has not far more footage been released, for instance showing it going to the Russian border?

20) Why has no footage of this BUK, with its cover removed showing the missing missile and no dashboard cam recordings turned up showing it between Snizhne and Lugansk or between Lugansk and the Russian border?

21) If a police surveillance team was based in this flat, wouldn’t they use a high quality camera on a tripod, rather than what appears to be a not very high-resolution video camera?

Adding to the theory that the M17 was in fact MH370, Human Rights Investigations says the statement conclusion about Avakov, the film, and its location suggest the Ukrainian authorities had advance knowledge of this BUK and trailer’s movements or control over it. (Emphasis added)

“It is also extremely strange that this BUK, allegedly after shooting down MH17, is supposedly filmed by a Ukrainian surveillance team in ostensibly rebel territory, with its covering missing, as if to show the world a missile is missing.”

‘Intention of using MH317 for another purpose‘

A Russian official had stated that MH370 landed in Pakistan. With the US and Russia at odds, and the US openly employing terrorists for its political gain, many were eyeing both those governments as suspects in the MH370 crisis. 

US counter-terrorism officials reportedly examined whether MH317’s route might have changed with an “intention of using it later for another purpose” and its transponders intentionally turned off to avoid radar detection. If available data and a Pentagon official’s speculation were accurate, “U.S. aggression against Russia of late could have prompted the Kremlin to show the world it won’t be bullied by the US, thus it seized the plane and flew it to a secret facility.” [Malaysia Plane False Flag Military Operation]

As reported by the Washington Post,  top pro-Russia rebel commander in eastern Ukraine gave an odd version of events surrounding the MH17 jetliner crash, suggesting many of its victims might have died days before the plane took off. The pro-rebel website Russkaya Vesna quoted Igor Girkin saying he was told by people at the crash site that “a significant number of the bodies weren’t fresh,” adding that he was told they were drained of blood and reeked of decomposition.