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9/23/17 The Greatest Sign Since Adam and Eve? Pastor Steve Cioccolanti Says Yes

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How Significant is the astronomical match of 9/23/2017 to the “Great Sign” of Revelation 12?

by David Montaigne, author of Nostradamus and the Islamic Invasion of Europe and End Times and 2019

Pastor Steve Cioccolanti (of Discover Ministries) suggests: “The Revelation 12 Celestial Woman in Labor Pain is the most detailed astronomical sign recorded in the entire Bible, and may be the greatest sign in the sky since Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden. It’s likely to be fulfilled in 2017. This video [below] explores in depth the meaning and timing of this sign. What does the Bible say the “woman in birth pangs” alludes to in terms of end time events?” (I disagree with him on many points, but since Pastor Cioccolanti is an intelligent and all-around cool guy with a huge following and many insightful videos, we will get back to his point of view in his comments and videos further down in this post.)

The idea that the great sign described at the beginning of Revelation Chapter 12 will be fulfilled on September 23, 2017 is several years old.  But while I DO believe that astronomical signs are crucially important in timing end times prophecy – how relevant is this particular alignment?  Some people suggest it hasn’t happened for 7,000 years…

I say something very similar happens (almost) every two years, and that the alignment on 9/23/17 is an INTENTIONAL distraction from the following occurrence in 2019 which is FAR MORE SIGNIFICANT.  Everybody will get excited for this one, and then feel silly about their expectations and ignore the next one.

September 23, 2017 is not a Jewish holiday.  October 14, 2019 is the Feast of Tabernacles – Sukkot – when the Messiah is believed to eventually come to Tabernacle with us.  This could be the astronomical clue for the Second Coming.  The “Great Sign of Revelation” in which the Virgin astronomically gives birth to a Son is fulfilled on that date as well.  And most importantly, 75 days later the Sun, Moon, and planets finish a week-long astronomical enactment of an ancient Jewish wedding ceremony in the sky. 

Not only do all major steps of a wedding (is it Christ taking His bride?) occur in order, including the 8 minute part where the groom gives the bride the ring lining up with a total eclipse visible from Jerusalem showing “the diamond ring effect” (everyone saw the same thing in photos of the August eclipse over America) – but the 12/26/19 eclipse also fulfills Isaiah 13:10 “the sun will be dark when it rises” because the total eclipse will be seen exactly at sunrise over Jerusalem – while we celebrate Christmas!

Even Pastor Cioccolanti indirectly notes the end times significance of the 12/26/19 eclipse at sunrise (the sun being dark when it rises over Jerusalem) in this screenshot from the 27:40 mark of his video below:

And the 75 day spread between the end of the wedding and the Great Sign matches the end of Daniel’s periods of 1260, 1290, and 1335 days – assuming the last 30 and 45 days are reserved for judgment and wrath, between 10/14/19 and 12/28/19.  Oh, the week-long wedding in the sky also takes place during Hanukkah, the Festival of Lights, also very symbolic.

I detail the astronomical matches to end times prophecy for many pages in my previous book, End Times and 2019Do not be deceived or disheartened by all the hype about 9/23/17 only to ignore the infinitely more significant astronomical signs in late 2019.

Very similar astronomical alignments occur almost every two years.  Don’t lose your mind over the 2017 alignment with Leo and Virgo only to ignore the much more relevant matches to end times prophecies described in End Times and 2019.

But if you’re still interested in a video on the 9/23/17 alignment/sign:

https://youtu.be/ZSqPiR2EK2s

Everything so far would not convince me that Steve Cioccolanti’s take on the 9/23/17 alignment is right – because he thinks it’s a BIG sign, and very significant – as he explains in the video below:

https://youtu.be/XA6JcY-ikec

Watch, read, pay attention, and make your own decisions.  Maybe we’re both wrong and you’ll think we’re both false prophets of doom – but I say we’re both just trying to make sense of Bible prophecy based on astronomical clues.

 

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    • allendaves

      Pay attention to #3 in light of #1&2…so where are you???….. 2Thess 2:10..because they received not THE LOVE (Agape)of the truth, that they might be saved. 11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

      123’s of true Christianity v popular & damnable heresies

      #1 “ONE” not triune: ……PART 4 & 5 HOW MANY GODS ARE THERE FOR THE ONE GOD TO TALK TO?? Who was Jesus praying to??!?…. The real question should be … How does having multiple different persons keep this one God/being/entity from praying to himself?! (The trinitarian “schizophrenic” “god-head”) The Trinitarians want to have their cake and eat it too as the saying goes. On the one hand they need to say they only worship one indivisible God being/ entity but on the other hand they feel the need for some reason to keep Jesus or God from praying and talking to himself by dividing him up into different persons!?! It never occurs to them that that since there is only one indivisible God to pray too and Jesus is that indivisible God come in the flesh that he would need to talk to himself as to show us how to live, suffer, pray and die for our/ flesh) benefit not his!?!….. So while Trinitarians are quick to complain that God was not talking to himself at Christ baptism or in Gen “let us” they ignore the logical demands of their own theology! If Jesus is the ONE GOD in flesh and the Father is the SAME ONE GOD in heaven then Trinitarianism demands THE ONE GOD is talking to HIMSELF the same “being”! Claiming that God is multiple different persons as the reason for why God is not talking to himself (because God is three different “selfs”) only demonstrates that what they really worship is in fact not a ONE GOD who talks to himself but three different god “selfs”/ and they all talk to each other! When they speak about who God was talking and praying to, they are quick to say “the other person, NOT HIMSELF!” But if you ask them how many gods do they pray to then they will say “ONLY ONE”!?! They expect you to believe that those three different persons are THE ONE GOD-BEING” which is like calling three different cars “THE ONE VEHICLE” (they are text book examples of prov 26:12)
      Mark 12:28…Which is the first commandment of all? 29. …Hear, O Israel; THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD: 30. And ………..this is the first commandment….. 31. And the second is….. IF YOU CAN’T GET THIS “FIRST OF ALL COMMANDMENTS” RIGHT, ALL THE REST OF YOUR “FAITH” AND PREACHING ON LOVE & SIN IS MOOT

      PART 6: THE ANTI CHRIST….WHERE? WHERE?….EVERYWHERE!!! …..IT”S YOU O TRINITARIAN!
      “WHO” it was (what person) that came “IN THE FLESH”, IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR IN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE “ANT-CHRIST”! Even Islam claims Jesus was the Jewish messiah/Christ who was to come in the flesh) they all deny “WHO” it was (what person) that came (to be the Christ) in the flesh!?!…….To deny the father is to deny the son because they are one and the same person that came in the flesh!
      JOHN 14: 8-20 ….Note Isaiah 9:6. For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: …: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, … the everlasting Father ….The son, father/Holy Spirit are all the same person, NOT like two different persons working together even as “one flesh” ….The “oneness” between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man & his wife, for only a fool would say “When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?” Notice they asked to see THE FATHER and the response was Jn 14:9 ..“HAVE I BEEN SO LONG time with you, and yet hast THOU NOT KNOW ME, Philip…..Now image some fool trying to claim that statement if you asked to see his wife!?!!? You want to see the FATHER but have I been with you but you don’t know me!?!?!
      Jn 14 continued….…………..17. Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; (Jn 14:6 I AM the way, THE TRUTH,) whom the world cannot receive, .. for HE DEWLLETH WITH YOU, (present tense/standing next to them in the flesh) and SHALL BE IN YOU… (future tense “In them”) 18. I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU (future tense “In them”) Note: The spirit of Christ is the sprit of God and the holy spirit that is why Christ said “I will come to you” (to comfort them, because Christ is the comforter). The spirit was standing next to them in flesh… ….latter it would come to them to be inside of them (inside of their flesh as the spirit we are given)…..that is why. he would send the spirit…… However, Jesus himself here makes the point that the same person who was the HOLY SPIRIT that would come was standing next to them but lets them know “I will come to you again to be Inside of you”
      The whole point to Gal 3:20.a mediator is NOT A MEDIATOR OF ONE, (HEIS) but GOD IS ONE. (HEIS) again, point blank, identifies the number of persons of God! The “but” points out the contrast between multiple persons in a mediation party v the “one” of God. God is not like a mediation party with multiple different persons. …..”the express image of his person” ( the person of God; singular not plural).Any attempt to lay claim otherwise is willful ignorance and delusional nonsense
      TRINITARIANS CONFESS JESUS /THEY ARE NOT POLYTHEIST BUT ARE MONOTHEIST LIKE A LIAR & THIEF WHO “CONFESS” THEY DO NOT LIE OR STEAL The simple fact is that just because you confess or deny that you are in an adulterous relationship and denounce all forms of adultery has nothing to do with whether or not it is in fact adulterous! .. …A rose by any other name is still just a rose AND calling it a water lily does not change the definition of what a water Lilly or a rose is either!…No, Trinitarians confess & preach literally …”ANOTHER JESUS” 2 Cor 11:4
      - Like a thief in your house caught stealing your things insisting he was not there stealing “I CONFESS I am NOT stealing”. You just do not “properly understand” what he is doing/saying. Further, since you never had a “proper understanding” of what he is doing/saying you have no business accusing him since you do not even know what you are talking about in the first place. It is with and in your own ignorance that you base your “false accusations” & “ad homonym attacks” against him…… Ridiculous of course it is ……2Thess 2:11; Titus 1:16; 2Tim 3:5;
      …… should have given you a hint, harking back to Satan in The garden…God said you will die…Satan comes along and states no you will be more WISE……today .God said He is one; but Satan’s children come along and say no three is more WISE and humble in the face of God’s grandeur only “a mystery” that can be understood “in faith”. God uses head and right arm to explain the distinctions between father and son.. However, the Trinitarian heretics say to the effect: “NO, that is just a figure of speech, or that is not what God really means. What God is really saying is that God is three different persons”. Fools, hypocrites and blind guides, God said he was One and by your traditions and vain imaginations have taken the words of God and made them of no effect, refashioning God into your image!
      You can download the complete FREE book from
      https://www.scribd.com/doc/305367608/The-Trinity-Heresy
      OR
      https://www.academia.edu/23463667/THE_TRINITY_HERESY
      or
      http://www.globethics.net/gtl/10920799 THE TRINITY HERESY

      #2 SECOND COMING Thou Fool! “I come quickly” so “Hold fast
      till i come”… NOT …“in another 2000 yrs I might be coming soon any time now, so hold fast”!?! …those that deny the second coming of Christ in the war of AD70 are practicing a damnable heresy in denying the lord that bought them ( 2Peter 2:1-2 ;2Tim 4:8/ you cant love an appearing you deny& the context is the 2nd coming not the first)… Mat 7:23..”I NEVER KNEW YOU” …..Mat 10:33. But whosoever shall deny me before men……..sound familiar?…. If I said I am coming to your house in this generation when these things happen but no one knows the day or hour what fool would think I might be coming in 2000 years latter!?!? ..2 Tim 4: 4. And
      they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES.

      Christ promised that only HIS PEOPLE would see him ….John 14:19. Yet a little while, and THE WORLD SEETH ME NO MORE;….. [2 Cor 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ AFTER THE FLESH, yet NOW HENCEFORTH KNOW WE HIM NO MORE….(here the Context of John 14 is his second coming)…..continued…..but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20. AT THAT DAY .. 21. He that hath my commandments, and KEEPETH THEM, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and WILL MANIFEST MYSELF TO HIM……(again taking note “as he is” or 1Jn 3:2)

      22. Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, HOW IS IT THAT THOU WILT MANIFEST THYSELF UNTO US AND NOT UNTO THE WORLD? 23. Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, HE WILL KEEP MY WORDS: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.( Rev 3:20) 24. He that loveth me not.. (1Cor 16:22)…. KEEPETH NOT MY SAYINGS: ( REV 9:16-20)

      REVELATION 1:7. Behold, HE COMETH WITH CLOUDS; and EVERY EYE SHALL SEE HIM, …. There are two point to be made here (1) this is a partial quote from OT (Zech 12:2&10; also note Rev 16:15-17 & Zech 14:1-3 with Joel 2:28-3:1,2,12,16 et al) note the context it IDENTICAL to Mat ch 24/ Lk 21/ Mark 13 et al….you know, where Jesus described his second coming with the destruction of Jerusalem!?!?!!?…. (2) there parallel here with ………….Exodus 24:10. And THEY SAW THE GOD OF ISRAEL : and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness. 11. And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also THEY SAW GOD, and did eat and drink………..But Christ said….. John 1:18. NO MAN HATH SEEN GOD AT ANY TIME; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. A person can see with their understanding and or see with their eyes…. It can see “seen” for certain that everything that Christ described was seen by the folks of that day in His coming but do they perceive that was him? …So what Christ said is true every eye saw him but the world does not see him….. With the eye they and folks still today can see everything Christ described to have taken place, but they do not “keep” ( believe and understand) his words as such they do not see him nor shall they ever.

      The saints who have physical died faithful in the flesh (every man in his own order) are changed in the blink of an eye & caught up to sit on that Great white throne ( this congregation of the saints is the body of Christ that folks will answer to at the judgment and these saints will judge all men who cannot see Christ along with the rest of the world……Folks think they are waiting to see Jesus but they will NEVER see Jesus himself they will only see the body of Christ condemn them the saints judge the world (Rev 3:21; 1 Cor 6:2 et al) the saints are the body of Christ…that is the only part of Christ they shall see….only the saints shall see God face to face…..most peoples idea of the second coming & day of the Lord and the judgment is completely wrong

      https://www.scribd.com/doc/305366745/Revelation-the-First-Gospel-of-the-Kingdom
      or
      http://www.globethics.net/gtl/5455069 Revelation The First Gospel of The Kingdom
      or
      https://www.academia.edu/23464127/REVELATION_THE_FIRST_GOSPEL_OF_THE_KINGDOM

      DAY OF THE LORD”/ YEAR OF THE LORD – does NOT last for 24 hours!?!..Also means the day of resurrection & judgment do not last for one hour or one day either! They only begin (NOT END) in a certain hour & on a certain 24 hour day ….”SUN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS to arise”…..NOT..”come & get (your new resurrected body) it while it is still hot, only 24 hours of solar power left”!?!

      https://www.scribd.com/doc/308485609/Day-of-Lord-Not-24-Hours-I-Come-Quickly

      2Thess 2: 11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12. That they all might be damned …

      https://www.scribd.com/doc/305366745/Revelation-the-First-Gospel-of-the-Kingdom
      or
      http://www.globethics.net/gtl/5455069 Revelation The First Gospel of The Kingdom
      or
      https://www.academia.edu/23464127/REVELATION_THE_FIRST_GOSPEL_OF_THE_KINGDOM
      978-1-4907-0590-3 (SC ISBN)

      #3 There is a sharp contrast between THREE groups :
      (1) “PREDESTINED DAMNED” who were NEVER written in the book of life ………..Rev 17: 8 WHOSE NAMES WERE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, …as contrasted …EPH 1: 4. According as he hath CHOSEN US in him BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD
      (2) “MANY CALLED”= ONLY and ALL SAINTS (those who come to Christ) are written in the book of life … Philippians 4:3… ……Rev 21:27; (Only saints are Called and elect; Rom 1:6-7 et al) This is THE CHRUCH and ONLY these can have their names blotted out of the book of life ….….Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and CHURCH of the firstborn … WHICH ………are WRITTEN in heaven,
      (3) THE FEW CHOSEN: Those saints who were alive in group #2 who are now physically dead. They died “faithful” these are the FEW that were chosen faithful…….Rev 3:5. ……; and I
      will not BLOT OUT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, (Ps 69:28) …. These are the FEW that are CHOSEN and now that they have died and are saved then “once saved THEY CAN NEVER BE LOST”
      Predestination….its true..its all true…download here
      https://www.scribd.com/doc/306868420/Most-True-Christians-Go-to-Hell
      http://www.globethics.net/gtl/10920800 Most true Christians go to hell
      https://www.academia.edu/25217564/Most_True_Christains_Go_to_Hell

      • b4

        the bible…book of wrath and judgement…god has no wrath nor judgement..god loves all his little babies,even stupid,self righteous, evil,hateful judgementmental bible thumpers,christians..god does not read the bible–never has–never will–was not written by god either–some insane homeless dudes in a cave wrote it,inspired by satan,not god–the word of men,not god–humans are too petty,immature,judgemental to know god–god is way above the human experience–god is never like us–no wrath or judgement–jesus tried to tell us then and it only got him killed by the bible thumpers of his day,evil hateful assholes–we still are not listening–the bible thumpers of today would do the same–arrogant,self righteous bible thumpers spurned on by the book of satan,the bible–but fret not..salvation is for all..gurrraaannteeeed–no hail marys,forgiveness needed–god knows who we are–what we are–we are only a mystery to ourselves being the fools we are–even the agents of satan get to go to heaven,the evil,hateful,judgeMENTAL bible thumpers, christians

    • Anonymous

      Nobody ever sees Lions nor Virgins or any of the other crap these false prophets crow about.

    • The Ferrett

      Matthew 16:4 – “A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it . . ”

      We could say that today about our country. This is a wicked generation. This generation certainly is the most wicked generation any of us have ever known. It seems to be at least on the outside far more wicked than in the past, and getting more wicked all the time. Not only wicked but flaunting its wretchedness. Ours is a most wicked generation. Sin, corruption, filth, perversion abound. They are propagated, promoted, publicized, paraded. Our nation is increasingly immoral, blatantly and flagrantly ungodly.

      Thus those who wish to find Christ not through faith but through wisdom will perish on the stumbling block of foolishness. Those who wish to know the Son of God not through faith and grace but through a demonstration of signs will remain trapped in their carnality & disbelief. Falling on the stumbling block of fleshly wisdom and unbelief such as the Pharisees with their “Tradition of the Elders.”. .

    • Pink Slime

      The rapture theory of going to heaven has been debunked clearly if you study the Bible. What kind of rapture are you talking about?

    • Andoron

      Eisegesis: an interpretation, especially of Scripture, that expresses the interpreter’s own ideas, bias, or the like, rather than the meaning of the text. When you read the entire chapter of Revelation 12, it is clearly NOT an astronomical sign, lazy people who do not research this garbage fall for anything.

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