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Flat Earth Hoax: Began As a Ridiculous Farce to See How Gullible People Would Be

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TMR Editor’s Note:
There is perhaps no other internet hoax that is more ludicrous than the Flat Earth Theory. We’re talking about the most nonsensical and preposterous, laughable and foolish hoax in history!   Yes, it is that zany and loony, wacky and silly.

However, what is really crazy is how many people are buying into it.  That is where the silliness ends and the serious PSYOP begins.  That is also where the Tavistock Institute intersects with the NSA, Facebook collaborates with the CIA, and YouTube and Google really drive some heavy traffic IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.  The spooks are watching the evolution of this PSYOP very, very closely.  After all, they started it. 

All anyone has to do is read the following post by the Thunderbolts scientists and they will quickly understand the error and folly of the hysterical Flat Earth Theory hoax.

The Electric Universe

How’s that for an elegant and thoroughly scientific theory of astrophysics—an Electric, Plasma-filled Universe ?!  

Here is one more enlightening piece for the all flat earthers: The Thunderbolts Project.  Perhaps they can send these two links to their handlers at the Tavistock Institute.

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Flat Earth Theory HOAX: A Purposeful Distraction and Powerful Diversion by The Powers That Be

 

FLAT EARTH ‘THEORY’ Demonstrates The Alarming Gullibility Of People Everywhere

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Cosmic Convergence Research Group

CCRG Editor’s Note:
If ever the CIA and/or Tavistock Institute wanted to test out a new mind-control program, the Flat Earth Theory would be the perfect theme for the program.  As most know by now, the CIA has been running covert mind-control experiments on various segments of humanity for decades.  With the internet being a global platform, the opportunities for the intelligence agencies to advance their mind-control agenda, as well as test their techniques and technologies, have increased and intensified considerably.

CIA PSYOPS FLAT EARTH

Facebook Proves Itself To Be Another CIA-Managed Media ExperimentThere is no greater example on the internet today of inciting people of every ilk toward  ”throwing the baby out with the bathwater” than the utterly ludicrous phenomenon known as the Flat Earth Theory. What is truly shocking is the number of really smart and aware, well-intentioned and spiritually oriented individuals who are supporting this transparent pseudo-scientific sham.  Truly, the CIA has outdone itself with this mind-scrambling endeavor.

Yes, scientific knowledge and applied technology have been egregiously abused and misused throughout the modern era, as this website has frequently pointed out.  That is exactly the sentiment a “CIA” would like to exploit; however, true scientific paradigms based on common sense and human reason ought not to be whimsically replaced by pure fantasy and fiction … even if the Tavistock Institute provides every rhyme and reason to do so.

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“When scientific knowledge and applied technology reach a critical level of advancement, without being informed by spiritual truths and guided by moral authority, the planetary civilization will relinquish its destiny to continue as it is.”
(Source: Cosmic Convergence Accelerates Epochal Planetary Transformation)

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Quite incredibly, this ridiculous notion – that Planet Earth is really flat – has been enthusiastically embraced by thought leaders and light-workers everywhere. Their primary reason for entertaining such an absurd ‘hypothesis’ is because it takes such a strong anti-science establishment position; otherwise, there is simply no good rational reason for assuming such a sympathetic posture toward this very bad cyber-space joke.

Truly, if the dark side wanted to undermine the workings of the authentic New Age movements, deliberately disseminating a Flat Earth Theory would be a great way of doing so. They probably never imagined in their wildest dreams that so many would climb on board such a farcical disinfo initiative …  …  … did they?!

Video: PSYOP Flat Earth DISTRACTION Debunked! BIG FAIL!

Cosmic Convergence Research Group
December 4, 2015

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Are Flat-Earthers Being Serious?

by Natalie Wolchover
www.livescience.com

A Flat Earth model depicting Antarctica as an ice wall surrounding a disc-shaped Earth.
Credit: Creative Commons 1.0 Generic | Trekky0623

Members of the Flat Earth Society claim to believe the Earth is flat. Walking around on the planet’s surface, it looks and feels flat, so they deem all evidence to the contrary, such as satellite photos of Earth as a sphere, to be fabrications of a “round Earth conspiracy” orchestrated by NASA and other government agencies.

The belief that the Earth is flat has been described as the ultimate conspiracy theory. According to the Flat Earth Society’s leadership, its ranks have grown by 200 people (mostly Americans and Britons) per year since 2009. Judging by the exhaustive effort flat-earthers have invested in fleshing out the theory on their website, as well as the staunch defenses of their views they offer in media interviews and on Twitter, it would seem that these people genuinely believe the Earth is flat.

But in the 21st century, can they be serious? And if so, how is this psychologically possible?

Through a flat-earther’s eyes

First, a brief tour of the worldview of a flat-earther: While writing off buckets of concrete evidence that Earth is spherical, they readily accept a laundry list of propositions that some would call ludicrous. The leading flat-earther theory holds that Earth is a disc with the Arctic Circle in the center and Antarctica, a 150-foot-tall wall of ice, around the rim. NASA employees, they say, guard this ice wall to prevent people from climbing over and falling off the disc. Earth’s day and night cycle is explained by positing that the sun and moon are spheres measuring 32 miles (51 kilometers) that move in circles 3,000 miles (4,828 km) above the plane of the Earth. (Stars, they say, move in a plane 3,100 miles up.) Like spotlights, these celestial spheres illuminate different portions of the planet in a 24-hour cycle. Flat-earthers believe there must also be an invisible “antimoon” that obscures the moon during lunar eclipses.

Furthermore, Earth’s gravity is an illusion, they say. Objects do not accelerate downward; instead, the disc of Earth accelerates upward at 32 feet per second squared (9.8 meters per second squared), driven up by a mysterious force called dark energy. Currently, there is disagreement among flat-earthers about whether or not Einstein’s theory of relativity permits Earth to accelerate upward indefinitely without the planet eventually surpassing the speed of light. (Einstein’s laws apparently still hold in this alternate version of reality.)

As for what lies underneath the disc of Earth, this is unknown, but most flat-earthers believe it is composed of “rocks.” [Religion and Science: 6 Visions of Earth's Core]

Then, there’s the conspiracy theory: Flat-earthers believe photos of the globe are photoshopped; GPS devices are rigged to make airplane pilots think they are flying in straight lines around a sphere when they are actually flying in circles above a disc. The motive for world governments’ concealment of the true shape of the Earth has not been ascertained, but flat-earthers believe it is probably financial. “In a nutshell, it would logically cost much less to fake a space program than to actually have one, so those in on the Conspiracy profit from the funding NASA and other space agencies receive from the government,” the flat-earther website’s FAQ page explains.

It’s no joke

The theory follows from a mode of thought called the “Zetetic Method,” an alternative to the scientific method, developed by a 19th-century flat-earther, in which sensory observations reign supreme. “Broadly, the method places a lot of emphasis on reconciling empiricism and rationalism, and making logical deductions based on empirical data,” Flat Earth Society vice president Michael Wilmore, an Irishman, told Life’s Little Mysteries. In Zetetic astronomy, the perception that Earth is flat leads to the deduction that it must actually be flat; the antimoon, NASA conspiracy and all the rest of it are just rationalizations for how that might work in practice.

Those details make the flat-earthers’ theory so elaborately absurd it sounds like a joke, but many of its supporters genuinely consider it a more plausible model of astronomy than the one found in textbooks. In short, they aren’t kidding. [50 Amazing Facts About Planet Earth]

“The question of belief and sincerity is one that comes up a lot,” Wilmore said. “If I had to guess, I would probably say that at least some of our members see the Flat Earth Society and Flat Earth Theory as a kind of epistemological exercise, whether as a critique of the scientific method or as a kind of ‘solipsism for beginners.’ There are also probably some who thought the certificate would be kind of funny to have on their wall. That being said, I know many members personally, and I am fully convinced of their belief.”

Wilmore counts himself among the true believers. “My own convictions are a result of philosophical introspection and a considerable body of data that I have personally observed, and which I am still compiling,” he said.

Strangely, Wilmore and the society’s president, a 35-year-old Virginia-born Londoner named Daniel Shenton, both think the evidence for global warming is strong, despite much of this evidence coming from satellite data gathered by NASA, the kingpin of the “round Earth conspiracy.” They also accept evolution and most other mainstream tenets of science.

Conspiracy theory psychology

As inconceivable as their belief system seems, it doesn’t really surprise experts. Karen Douglas, a psychologist at the University of Kent in the United Kingdom who studies the psychology of conspiracy theories, says flat-earthers’ beliefs cohere with those of other conspiracy theorists she has studied.

“It seems to me that these people do generally believe that the Earth is flat. I’m not seeing anything that sounds as if they’re just putting that idea out there for any other reason,” Douglas told Life’s Little Mysteries.
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She said all conspiracy theories share a basic thrust: They present an alternative theory about an important issue or event, and construct an (often) vague explanation for why someone is covering up that “true” version of events. “One of the major points of appeal is that they explain a big event but often without going into details,” she said. “A lot of the power lies in the fact that they are vague.”

The self-assured way in which conspiracy theorists stick to their story imbues that story with special appeal. After all, flat-earthers are more adamant that the Earth is flat than most people are that the Earth is round (probably because the rest of us feel we have nothing to prove). “If you’re faced with a minority viewpoint that is put forth in an intelligent, seemingly well-informed way, and when the proponents don’t deviate from these strong opinions they have, they can be very influential. We call that minority influence,” Douglas said.

In a recent study, Eric Oliver and Tom Wood, political scientists at the University of Chicago, found that about half of Americans endorse at least one conspiracy theory, from the notion that 9/11 was an inside job to the JFK conspiracy. “Many people are willing to believe many ideas that are directly in contradiction to a dominant cultural narrative,” Oliver told Life’s Little Mysteries. He says conspiratorial belief stems from a human tendency to perceive unseen forces at work, known as magical thinking. [Top Ten Unexplained Phenomena]

However, flat-earthers don’t fit entirely snugly in this general picture. Most conspiracy theorists adopt many fringe theories, even ones that contradict each other. Meanwhile, flat-earthers’ only hang-up is the shape of the Earth. “If they were like other conspiracy theorists, they should be exhibiting a tendency toward a lot of magical thinking, such as believing in UFOs, ESP, ghosts, the Devil, or other unseen, intentional forces,” Oliver wrote in an email. “It doesn’t sound like they do, which makes them very anomalous relative to most Americans who believe in conspiracy theories.”

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    • Mark

      As I’m tired to say, Flat Earth = Flat Brain (or no brain at all …) :lol:

      • HereAmI

        You are not adding anything to the debate by continuing to repeat an ad hominem remark.
        Give us something persuasive, or shut up.

        • sitrep

          Flat Earth Movement is a recruitment program. If one believes in flat earth the are recruited for several Covert Programs, with free training, meals, and a sleeping bag.
          1. Crotch Rocket Jockeys
          2. Douchen Baggers
          3. Covert Krazy operators, (Requires Trans-mutant Surgeries)
          4. Alien Discloser Actors, (Requires series of surgeries, Non Reversible)
          5. Stand By, and Stand ins, (May be required to fill any position on short notice)
          6. Dumb Person ( Requirement: Be Yourself)

        • Mark

          OK dude! I am a pilot with over 55,000 flight hours, since I went round the world hundreds of times, I can not stand hearing so much idiocy ever and ever repeating itself. Above 12,000 feet you can see the curvature of the Earth and can fly 1000 miles will continue to see the same curvature, ask it to any pilot. Therefore, this flat Earth theory is definitely a great stupidity. Done! :cool:

          • Anonymous

            Sure. You are a pilot flying thousands of hours exactly when? You are on here day and night with BS falling out of your mouth. You don’t have time to fly. Too busy typing and collecting that pathetic disinfo paycheck.

            • Mark

              You are a complete idiot or retarded, may be living with parents and receiving your allowance. Come on, move along… :cool:

            • sitrep

              There are several Levels in the Flat Earth Society/Cult.

              The Upper level is reserved for the Covert Operators.
              Whom use the lower level, to infiltrate major offices on a global scale.

              They wear a small insignia “FE” as a means to know who is who, thus create a major security concern for all global Governments.

              This FE group is now on a watch list, and the upper most level has been identified, as being a spin off, of the group that walks around Stonehenge while saying they feel something, but just do not know what.
              This created much money for the sham tourist industry in that area.
              They use trickery of placing a thought, Idea using Mind Control techniques.

              The upper level targets people in high office positions to join, then infiltrates.
              This upper level is very tricky

            • Mongoose

              The path of the arctic midnight sun disproves the globe. The earth is flat.

              /science-and-technology/2016/03/this-is-what-convinced-me-that-the-earth-is-flat-and-the-globe-is-bunk-2814558.html

              To those who say it’s a psy-op. I have a few simple questions for you.

              /alternative/2016/04/to-those-who-claim-that-flat-earth-is-a-psy-op-3340289.html

          • Theron

            Light curves inside the Hollow Earth. You are seeing an optical illusion.
            The Flat Earth is a Psy-Op alrighty but it is to hide the truth of the Concave Earth. :wink: :idea:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IinxfgwR0w

            • PaulTarsuss

              The answer is right there on the back of the dollar bill. ‘they’ are revealing a hidden secret….

              The earth is actually pyramid shaped and the ‘eye’ above it is the sun….with a camera in it.

              They gave us a clue in the “the truman show”, only they used a fake moon to hide the camera, so as not to give away the secret too easily.

              The great pyramids and other pyramids around the world were made to pay homage to our pyramid shaped earth. The “four corners of the earth” expression came about from the ancient discovery of these corners. One of them is at the bermuda “triangle”. Get it?

              Triangle.

              Think about it.

              But not too long. This is a limited time offer, to join us. Our headquarters is under the great pyramid at Giza. our underground tunnels use vacuum tube hyper shuttles that link up with our satellite offices under other pyramids around the world.

              Our next meeting is inside the Bosnian pyramid, where, once fully excavated and shared with mankind, we will reveal our plans for the future.

              We will be opening a world wide chain of pyramid shaped restaurants, which will serve pyramid shaped burgers, pyramid chicken and or dog/cat nuggets, (depending on location) pyramid shaped ice cream cones, etc….

              And once everyone’s ‘eye’ is on the pyramid, Well, we don’t have to tell you that we earthlings become one transmogrified, all seeing eye, seeing as one, at the top of pyramid mother earth….bringing peace and prosperity to all who finally get the ‘point’ of it all.

              See for yourself:

              http://static.wixstatic.com/media/5cd6ef_da0f85c6eb08447cdc381621464c4b46.jpg/v1/fill/w_290,h_315,al_c,lg_1,q_80/5cd6ef_da0f85c6eb08447cdc381621464c4b46.jpg

              http://www.zionministry.com/pyramid_earth.gif

              http://www.ancient-code.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/pyramid-mayan-original-apex-energy.png

              Peace and effervescence….serenity now….serenity…..now….

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow_9MglZrhs

            • 2QIK4U

              Go put your head in a blender it might make you realise. Your obviously one of steven christ’s deluded psychiatric hospital friends.How did his RECTUMLINEATOR EXPERIMENT TURN OUT? HUGE FAIL- WARNING- STEVEN CHRIST IS A FRAUD- OPEN YOUR EYES

            • The Thinning Veil Report

              please click on my name here and take a look at my posts on flat earth, especially my latest ones.

              peace.

          • Jango

            So Mark, I asked a pilot this. If the earth spins at 1000 mph which is about 1500 feet per second, when you are coming in for a landing on a N/S runway, and you lock on to the runway how do you land the plane when the runway is moving to the east at 1500 feet per second. Well, you should have seen the look on his face when he said “Gee, I can’t answer that, I don’t know” So can you explain to us how you did it.

            • DistantCousin

              Very simple question, very simple answer.
              as you know with wind, wind speed is calculated
              from a set measurement point, (quite often on the
              planet surface). All speeds wind and vehicular, (within
              the atmosphere are calculated from a set points on the
              planet surface.
              If you were to use some X-0 axis Y-0 axis Z-0 axis coordinate
              located elsewhere in the Universe, speeds would be completely
              different. You could find that as you are reading BIN, you could
              be travelling from 0 to several thousands of miles an hour. And that
              could be thousands of miles plus or minus, depending on whether
              you were toward or away from the X-Y-Z- 0 point. Also your actual
              speed would have to be calculated taking all three axis into account.
              The pilot you asked should stick to walking.

              RR :cool:

            • DistantCousin

              Funny, Huh? Jango,
              Somebody reloaded this old Post,
              and here it is August, and here to
              Read Again. (Doin’ the Timewarp Again??)

              Funny, my Answer in Feb. was Correct.
              In August it is still Correct.

              Leopards don’t change their spots.
              In February you were a Fraud.
              In August you are still a Fraud.

              Allahu Akbar!!!!
              Live Long Jango On Allah’s Flat Earth
              RR :cool:

            • Jango

              You can ignore DistantCousin’s remarks below as he is known all over BIN as a babbling idiot that doesn’t make any sense at all. Just insults, bragging, and wrong data. He has nothing sensible to say, just likes the attention. I pray that he would repent and ask Jesus to forgive his sins or he will end up in the lake of fire along with some of the others who do what he does.

          • igot1thatcansee

            If it such idiocy, then answer me this pilot guy. If you fly to Antarctica and you land the plane, HOW IN THE F**K ARE YOU FLYING AND LANDING THE PLANE UPSIDE DOWN GENIUS?

          • Anonymous

            John Edward Long “guiness book of records; with over 65,000 flight hours
            John Lear “son of Lear Jet founder sworn testimony to county clerk, state of nevada in regards to 911.
            I am 65 years of age, a retired airline captain and former CIA pilot with over 19,000 hours of flight time, over 11,000 of which are in command of 3 or 4 engine jet transports, have flown over 100 different types

            of aircraft in 60 different countries around the world. I retired in 2001 after 40 years of flying.
            you are either in an elite group of people or a liar !

            • Daughter of the Church

              Anonymous:
              You have an impressive flight record: a lot more impressive than mine.
              Have you ever flown direct from South Africa to New Zealand, or from South America to Australia over the “South Pole”? If you did may we have a publication?

              Also among the vast crowd of longshoremen, how many nautical miles was it logged for similar crossings while going around the “no man’s land continent”?

          • Black Humor

            Hi Mark, these con men are targeting you because they believe in ”nomen est omen” theory too. Be brave. One good trick to shut these guys up is to use long range cannon. In order to shoot accurately from far, you need to calculate earths rotation to the trajectory equation. That works always.

            • Anonymous

              Your wrong. That cannon experiment was done over and over. They shot cannon balls straight up and on several occasions, the ball even came back down and hit the cannon! But you don’t need a cannon. Just toss a rock straight up and it will come back down on your head, which is probably what really happened to the Mason liar called Newton.

          • illi

            We’ve all flown higher than 12k feet and it offers no proof of a sphere.

            Top ten answers that prove why the earth is a globe :

            1) The television nightly news said so…
            2) It’s in all our history books, the earth orbits around the sun, so there…
            3) Ask anybody they’ll tell you. Just look at the moon, even though it doesn’t spin like the earth, and we can’t see the other side…
            4) Get a Walmart telescope and see for yourself you idiot…
            5) Only a moron would think the earth is flat because… Well just because!
            6) Everybody knows it’s true because everybody just knows, you know?…
            7) We have satellites up there that are in orbit. What about that!…
            8) Obama will ridicule me if I think otherwise…
            9) We landed on the moon. I saw it on tv…
            10) Look at the NASA photo’s of earth that we took from way out in space. They also took a photo of our galaxy. What about that?…

          • Daughter of the Church

            Mark! your pictures shows the face of a young man, who claims to have “over 55,000 flight hours”. The Guinness Book of Records tells that the most logged flight hours is over 65,000 (hrs), which means more than seven years and four months spend in a cockpit. This aviator is named John Edward “Ed” Long Jr. who had began flying at the age of 17. He died at 83.

            From what I conclude: Mark, you are not who you claim to be. You are a liar.

          • DistantCousin

            Well stated Mark,
            If someone needs a solid argument against the American School System,
            The American medical handling of psychiatric disorders,
            The ingestion of large amounts of mind altering substances,
            Flouridated water, genetically modified food, massive ingestion of corn syrup,

            For what is considered the Exceptional American Way of Life——-
            BIN Comments Section is truly an argument against the Status Quo.

            Do you really think you belong here???????
            Really Mark???? Have a good day :cool:
            RR

          • Vic

            Your arms bust get very tired pushing the controls so the nose of the plane follows the earth curvature. Perhaps you think the auto pilot does it automatically.

            If the horizon meter is level all the way, then the airplane is is travelling on a constant level plane. You are no pilot !

          • Servaline

            The average commercial airline pilot logs in 900 hours of flight time a year. That’s full-time flying. So, you have 61 years flying and if you started even as early as 20, you’d be somewhere in the vicinity of 81 years old, right?

          • Unified Serenity

            My father flew 747′s and I joined him many times up there. I say you are talking crap. How come you don’t have to constantly point the plane down so you don’t continue to rise as you fly?

            There are plenty of videos showing how flat the earth is up there, and most people have no idea that gopro cameras create a curve, but the curve goes up and down as the balloon up there moves. Look it up people, and start thinking for yourself. I used to laugh at flat earth. I don’t anymore.

          • Vic

            Don’t lie. There are plenty of proper pilots who say otherwise.

        • sitrep

          HereAmI,
          Are you applying for one of the flat earth job Positions?
          New positions open daily. Plus you get to wear a cool jump suit.
          Just go to the flat earther site, and swear the flat earthed oath, and someone will contact you.

          Plus now they are looking for people to walk a straight distance, to see how many miles it takes before they fall off the flat earth. It is kinda like the tootsie pop experiment to see how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop. At least conducted, and headed by the same Think Tank group, they are still crunching the numbers on that on.
          Also now there are more openings, for volunteers to spread the word about flat earth, and obtain more followers, and donations along the way.

          Soon there will be a mass wave of Flat Earthen People wearing parachutes in case they did not follow the tootsie pop rule, and fall of the flat earth.

          Also another Position opening up soon, will include Flat Earthen Prophets, whom walk around with Parachutes, preaching the Flat Earthen ways of life, while whipping themselves with a spiked silly stick.

          Just checked the Flatearthen web site, wow several more positions just opened:
          Now they are seeking Several Flat Earth people to be in their scientific Flat earthen Think Tank. Yes this comes with many benefits.
          You will be able to, free of charge receive life time magazine
          “Earth Is Flat, What are You” also you will automatically become a member of (The ‘Sea Squiddo Club”, yes they support the efforts to locate people that believes most anything they are told, and easy to manipulate. If your a Flatearther you already qualify, and cut the red tape, and may put you in charge.
          Plus you get another free jump suit uniform, with your very own Squiddo Identification Patch.
          They took after the Flatearthen Design, and put a back door on these jump suits, along with a lot of velcro.
          Yes the Flat Earth Think Tank which is comprised of Highly distinguished Ding-bats, also hold a flat earthen Ceremony each week.

          During the CeremonyFlatearthen they Run as fast as they can Slinging their bodies high on a wall and they are held there by massive amounts of Velcro.
          Plus they sing songs, and listen to the Prophet, whom reads the Sacred Flat Earthen Book.

          Good Luck everyone………these people pushing this flat earth stuff, have devious plans.

      • Buffalo

        troll…

        • Leroy Winston

          Mister Wong doesn’t want to alarm his BIN family, but I have some startling news: I’ve just been out in the parking lot and I measured the tarmac with a spirit level device, and guess what? Yup, the earth is completely flat out there – not curved at all :!:

          If it’s flat in the parking lot, then it must be flat across the “globe” :idea:

          • Black Humor

            Dear Watt Be Wong, not all people can be Chinese or have black Viking ancestors. That is why the elevator effect which seems like gravity to lesser men is slowly compressing their brains toward their arses. Nevertheless, we must remain compassionate.

      • Klemens

        Flat Earthers impersonate conspiracy researchers
        much the same way FBI and crisis actors
        impersonated patriot militia in Oregon. More disturbing,
        a few legitimate researchers like Anthony Migchels &
        Edward Hendrie seem to have succumbed.
        - See more at: http://henrymakow.com/2016/02/Illuminati-Hand-Seen-in-Flat-Earth-Conspiracy%20.html#sthash.CVjyWKiI.dpuf

      • 2QIK4U

        WoW! I cant believe 9 Flat earth retards have come together , :shock: Religion is bad for the soul.

        • Mongoose

          Judging by your debating/shilling skills I am going to assume that you are the very thing that you accuse others who disagree with you of being.

        • Ambicatus

          NO NO NO!!! STOP!!!! ITS THE FECKING SUNDAY XTIANS WHO JUMPING ONTO FLAT-EARTH BAND WAGON! JANGO AND THOSE OTHER KUNTS ARE SUNDAY XTIANS! KAFIRLICKS MAN!!!!

          and, aus, come now, you must get better red, “religion” is nothing more than the ORGANISED ATTEMPT TO DO GOOD. thats the definition, k, ORGANISED RELIGION has been HIJACKED by EVIL MEN mmkay? or do you want to be THAT kind of person who goes around screaming

          “i am against all organised attempts to DO GOOD”

          like yeaaaah, i like to do good, save kiddys from baddys, help grannys, avenge bullied lil bros, stuff like that, you, see, the thing is, we all supposed to have our OWN unique RELIGION, the only thing that must be the same, is our adherence to the 10 Commandments, THATS what the BIBLE trip is,,, the SUNDAY XTIA N trip is the bogan vomit these xtians spew, SUNDAY XTIANS=KAFIRLICKS=FLAT EARTH=GOYIM. their BIGGEST victory, is getting GOOD people like YOU, to correlate BIBLE to their TRIPE., which is EXACTLY what they did in the french revolution.

          so now, LOOK AGAIN AT YOUR STATEMENT:

          “Religion is bad for the soul.”

          what? “the organized attempt to do good, is bad for the soul”

          ??? you cannot really believe that do you???

          id rather say, “trusting other people to tell you what to believe, is bad for the soul”

          you, must become a HERETIC, or be lost, as a fool.

          • DistantCousin

            Jango and Veil, (and whichever Mongoose is),
            are Divisive Heretics.
            The Tools Of The Trade Are:
            Deception,
            Cold Blooded Lying, that is never corrected when pointed out,
            Trained in Diversionary Logick, to avoid answering Truthfully.

            It is all done with Malice of Forethought.
            They Post with No Manifestations of a Pure Heart,
            and People just “Swallow it Up.”

            That they do this is Disgusting,
            That People cannot Discern, is Tragic.

            The Naive who embrace this Papalatschi, are comparable
            to Piglets begging a Wolf to Join Them For Dinner.

            RR :eek:
            When I Post in this style, answering my comment is
            normally avoided. I wish “They” would come out
            “And Play With Me!!!”

      • Mongoose

        The arctic midnight sun disproves the globe. The earth is flat.

        /science-and-technology/2016/03/this-is-what-convinced-me-that-the-earth-is-flat-and-the-globe-is-bunk-2814558.html

        To those who say it’s a psy-op. I have a few simple questions for you.

        /alternative/2016/04/to-those-who-claim-that-flat-earth-is-a-psy-op-3340289.html

      • HO2

        You can tell people anything and they will run with it .Hahahah.. Flat earth how stupid for very ignorant people.

      • DaescensionedOne

        The author of this article is an obvious troll.. No need for the name calling.. And all the balltards comenting are shill or uneducated in the flat earth theory.. Believe me I was just as ignorant as you.. Believing there was no pissible way the Earth was anything but round.. And after removing and getting passed the thousands of hours of ball earth brainwashing material recorded in my head by movies, tv shows, nasa, so called scientists and teachers I came to realization the earth was not a ball and infact impossible.. Mayb its not flat but its definitely not a ball.. Research Eric Dubay and Eddie Bravos recent radio show om the flat earth.. Or eddie Bravis recent interview on the Alex Jones show that was deleted by infowars.. Infowars is CIA.. And the only proof we need is fukkin picture of earth from outer space!! But they wont it to US!!

      • No time

        They really Brainwashed you, your mind is spinning like a top.

    • Jango

      Well guess what? The Bible describes how God created the earth, sun, moon, and stars and placed them under a dome called the firmament. The Bible also says that the earth is fixed on pillars and is immovable. And that the sun rises and sets and not the other way around. According to the Bible, the earth was “spread out on the waters”. Not a globe. It doesn’t spin, and it doesn’t travel around the sun. So the only question that remains now is this: Who is smarter, you or God? P.S. Be careful how you answer this because you will have to stand before him someday soon (He won’t stand before you, you will stand before him). More on this at ItsHisStory.com. Read it with an open mind and decide for yourself.

      • blackout

        God didn’t write The Bible, genius… Freemasons did.

        • HereAmI

          I can assure you, Blackout, that the Author of the Bible is so far beyond the capabilities of men, that even to begin to compare them has to be the very definition of insanity.
          His genius and eternal wisdom are so far beyond what freemasons, or jews, or atheists generally, are capable, that the words lose all meaning when applied in the human context.
          Neither you, nor anybody else, can even begin to approach Him.
          You are demonstrably incapable of the slightest insight into how the world truly operates, but nevertheless, I will point you to the website “What a Beginning” by the Welshman Vernon Jenkins, where, once your head ceases to spin in confusion and dismay and alarm at what is mathematically encoded into the scriptures, you may be blessed for a few moments, moments during which your self-important and delusional concept of who we are, and Who He is, will completely disappear.

          And then you will continue on exactly as you were before, towards the Lake of Fire, wherein all who deny the supreme authority of the Lord Jesus Christ in the affairs of men, are destined to be burned up and remembered no more.

          “Thus saith the Lord, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way, and live”.

          • Leroy Winston

            Blah blah blah, derp derp derp bible bible bible

            You seriously need to get a life, Here Ami, you sound like you’ve been properly brainwashed and have got sand in your vaj (or man vaj, as appropriate)

        • Mongoose

          You are partially correct, the NT was written by the Romans a a form of crowd control to keep the people from rising up against each other or the emperor, that’s why it says such ridiculous things as “all governments are of God”, “pay your taxes” and obey the law of the land”

          The creation story however is mostly just a rewrite of what everyone on earth used to know to be true. THE EARTH IS FLAT! We are living in a created terrarium type of world. Don’t ask me why, I just found out myself a year or so ago.

          If the flat earth was really so stupid and easily disproven, then why waste time and money on all of the trolls, shills and hit pieces such as this one.

      • HereAmI

        Agree, Jango.

        • Leroy Winston

          Ah Mister “He Ream I”, your posts mark you out as a wo/man of distinction. Are you by any chance an elbow-licker? Because your words suggest you may enjoy sitting of an evening, in the corner, licking your elbows.

      • JohnQPublic

        The specific exponential rise in flat earth activity starting in October 2014 can be traced back to the release of the documentary THE PRINCIPLE, a documentary featuring Lawrence Krauss, Michio Kaku, George FR Ellis, Max Tegmark, Julian Barbour, and others, many whom tried to back out of it and also attacked THE PRINCIPLE once they realized what they said on camera (the SPLC also attacked THE PRINCIPLE in October 2014):

        /alternative/2016/01/flat-earth-is-a-psyop-to-attack-documentary-the-principle-3272834.html

      • truthseeker4809

        Bible is a story of full lies moron. Can’t help it.

      • Leroy Winston

        Haha, Oh Mister Jango, you and your bible :razz:

        Q: “Who is smarter, you or God?”
        A: Is this your god or mine? So am I smarter than your god?
        Then yes, the answer is yes, I am smarter than YOUR god – of course I am. Your god can only write in riddles and has only been around for about 2k years.

        • DistantCousin

          Somehow, Mr. Weh Wong,
          you remind me of a blind Pit Bull.
          It smells something in front of its nose–
          and it attacks it, without rhyme or reason.

          Coming on BIN to do hit and run attacks on people
          is childs-play. kind of like tipping someone over in
          a wheelchair.

          I have good Chinese friends in China,
          and they strike me as far more intelligent than you.

          RR

      • Johnny

        Flat earthers are either stupid or evil.
        Which one are you?

        • Ambicatus

          bam agreed

      • vortexau

        You should become more of a 21st century citizen.

        What is the Bible?
        Its a translation of a Bronze-age mythic syllabus (TANAKH) with a Greek-style Iron Age mythic addendum, which tries to re-imagine the myths of an ancient death-dealing war god as a more kindly version more suited to a period when the tiny upstart host “nation” is in full subjugation to a early CE superpower.

        What is not within the pages of the Bible?
        Any facts in agreement with modern scientific knowledge, and understanding.

    • Anonymous

      Fat chance. The PTB already know how gullible the sheeple are. They have been feeding them propaganda on mainstream media for years and getting them to vote in fake elections. Why would they need another gullibility test?
      Nahhh, we are clearly seeing signs of panic now.

      • Mongoose

        You are correct, the problem is not that people are becoming more gullible, the problem for the establishment is that people are realizing that everything we have been told by them are lies and they are afraid that their charade is coming to an end. We are not believing the lies anymore.

        The truth really is setting people free.

        Our whole so called civilization in the western world is based on fraud and lies. From the funny money banking system to the ucc admiralty jurisdiction legal system, to the fictitious accounts of world history ie WW1 and WW2 It is all fraud and lies.

        I feel sorry for the policy enforcers who have been lied to and actually believe that they are law enforcement officers as they will most likely be the first casualties if they stand against the people in support of this fraud. But after all ignorance of the law is no excuse right?

    • WARHEART

      Well that’s why you don’t understand it, you’ve gotten your information off ‘the flat earth society’ an organisation that has purposely been set up as a decoy to pose theories that don’t make sense and make the real flat earthers look like idiots lol.

      “Currently, there is disagreement among flat-earthers about whether or not Einstein’s theory of relativity permits Earth to accelerate upward indefinitely without the planet eventually surpassing the speed of light” No we dont believe the earth accelerates upwards at all.

      I would tell you to take a look at the real ‘International Flat Earth Society’ Message boards to answer any questions anyone has here http://ifers.boards.net/ , but it has recently been taken down, just like the leader in the movement – Eric Dubay’s social media pages have been taken down and ambushed.

      • HereAmI

        Everywhere, deception.
        It may come as a surprise to some to learn that Mr Albert Einstein was taken from complete obscurity in a Swiss patent office, to champion a plagiarized theory known as the theory of relativity.
        ( Having agreed to fulfill his primary commission, he then went on to have a career not as a scientist, but as one of the first examples of celebrity without substance; a phenomenon which has been amplified to the max, and by the same people, in our own times. )
        The reason why this was done was because it had been unequivocally proved at the end of the nineteenth century by Michelson and Morley, Sagnac, and Airey, that the earth does not move through space.
        The corollary being that neither does it spin on an alleged axis.
        Einstein’s plagiarism and theft, fully exposed by his fellow scientists at the time, purported, without any experimental evidence whatsoever, to show, via what are known as “voodoo mathematics”, or “thought experiments”, that it cannot be stated that any one object is stationary with respect to another, ie “everything is relative”.
        But God has stated that this is not so.
        He has stated that the earth cannot be moved.

        And this was subsequently demonstrated by the real scientists whose names are given above.
        Those who may have choked on their cornflakes at hearing this blasphemous revelation about the Great Man, may wish to confirm the truth of these statements by reading a few pages from Christopher Jon Bjerknes’ massive expose of the man at “The manufacture and sale of saint Einstein”, available to read online, and foc.

        Note that the deconstruction of one of humanity’s greatest lies, ie that the earth spins and moves through space, must lead us ever onwards towards questioning its other axiomatic assertions, eg that the earth is a globe, and that we evolved from primaeval slime.

        “It is the Spirit that quickeneth, the flesh profiteth nothing”.

      • Mongoose

        Dubay was a plant who’s job was to get out in front of the movement and discredit it with such falsehoods as “the horizon always stays at eye level no matter how high you go” well this is false and it is easy to prove.

        After gaining peoples trust and respect by stating some things that are true, he then comes out and says that dinosaurs never existed thereby discrediting anyone who believes him and repeats this. So you say “the earth is flat and dinosaurs never existed”, since it is easy to prove that dinosaurs did exist you have just discredited yourself and the flat earth.

        I believe that all of the people that were promoted on youtube were just there for damage control because of the amateur rocket and balloon footage that was coming out and causing people to ask questions.

        /conspiracy-theories/2016/02/false-flat-earth-arguments-that-should-be-avoided-2473966.html

    • BuzEaston

      Anyone who lives in Illinois knows that the earth is flat. :lol:

    • Tedx

      Flat Earth theory is a litmus test to measure the effectiveness of fluoridated water and chem-trails on subjects exposed to the neurological toxins.

      • truthlovingsoul

        tedx,

        so obviously the fluoride and chemtrails have worked well on YOU.

        there’s a sale on crest toothpaste at walmart this week.

        • The Clucker

          So how is drinking your own piss going?

          • truthlovingsoul

            CLUCKER,

            ASK JONAS SALK, A PRACTITIONER OF UROPATHY, ALONG WITH THE MANY OTHER MILLIONS WHO HAVE CURED THEMSELVES OF MANY ‘INCURABLE’ DISEASES.

            GOOGLE UROPATHY, ANYONE WHO IS ILL OR INTERESTED IN THE MOST HIDDEN HEALING MODALITY ON EARTH. FLAT EARTH.

            CONDEMNATION WITHOUT INVESTIGATION IS THE HEIGHT OF IGNORANCE.
            PUNK.

          • Anonymous

            Birdbrains eat their own poop and you do it daily in plain site.

    • Bacchus

      Well if this flat Earth thing is a CIA experiment then, judging by the lunatic posts on here, they have plenty of data to play with. The really scary thing, though, is that these flat heads are having children.

    • Nicomister

      Why there is no pictures of the earth from space?

    • Anonymous

      Humor! Listen to the idiot babbling away in this video and you will get an idea of the true mentality of what has been scamming the people all of these years. It is easy to see why they keep getting caught.

    • That_was_Random

      No. The earth IS flat and stationary.
      Seriously, do ANY research yourself and the fact becomes self evident almost instantly.
      psyop my ass.

    • Anonymous

      With the formula to describe a circle (sphere) of 25000 miles circumference being 8 inches per mile squared, it is very easy to show that either the formula is way wrong, or the circumference is much larger, or the earth is flat.

      • LifeIs

        Anonymous: Nope. You have identified the problem, though. The thing that makes people doubt the 3-D sphere belief.

        But you are wrong about what it means.

        Yes, we have about 8 inches per mile of curvature, if our circumference is what it is.

        Yes, the curvature of a sphere is distance squared times that 8 inches per mile.

        8 inches per mile is what a 3 dimensional sphere would have. The circumference would be the edge of a two dimensional slice, that passes through the center.

        Our observable distance-squared times 8 inches per mile is the edge of a 3 dimensional slice. Of a 4 dimensional sphere.

        There is no such thing in the real world, as a 3 dimensional sphere. Because an object of n dimensions is bounded by surfaces of n minus 1 dimensions.

        If an object is 3 dimensional, its surfaces are 2 dimensional. You could go east, west, north, south. A 2 dimensional surface has no up or down to it.

        Space has 4 dimensions, and the 3-D theory is just as obviously wrong as the flat earth one.

    • Jools K

      The article above reveals one possible reason for this psyop, along with others in a similar vein (Y2K computer doom, 2012 cataclysms, Nibiru/planet X etc.) and that is to discredit ALL ‘conspiracy theories’.

      By lumping together such patently disproven or absurd beliefs those who believe that 9/11 was an inside job (the evidence for this is overwhelming), that JFK was assassinated by US agencies (likewise), that ‘global warming’ is a multinational scam, that aircraft are routinely spraying chemicals in the sky and that cancer cures and free energy devices are routinely suppressed, the manipulators hope to tar everyone with the same brush.

      In other words, if you believe anything that is at odds with the official line regurgitated by ‘science’ and the MSM, you are a kook – just like the ‘flat earthers’.

      • Mongoose

        That sounds good and all but the problem is that the actual observable evidence for the earth being flat is also overwhelming and the evidence for a globe is all mathematical speculation.

        When my children were very little, say around 2-3 and I was teaching them about the earth I thought “oh, I know, I will use the internet to show them a picture of the earth from space, aren’t they lucky that I can show them things that I could not see when I was their age.”

        I was quite shocked to find out that there aren’t any photos of earth from space and that they are all fakes/composites. I thought it was odd at the time since we have all of these satellites in space but I shrugged it off at the time. Now I know why.

        I have even seen nasa footage of the one supposedly real photo of earth being staged by the freemason astronauts on one of the appollo missions.

        After that footage was accidentally made public, nasa mysteriously lost all of the rest of the footage. Coincidence you say? Now how is the gullible one?

        • Mongoose

          Now who is the gullible one?

    • Anonymous

      Why are satellites unable to preform Polar orbits, simple it’s a flat earth. If the earth is round why don’t building lean when observed at 20 miles or more distance, for each mile a building should lean 1.254″.
      If the earth is round then if you were in a helicopter stationary and the earth was spinning at 1200 mph you would be in NYC in 3.4 hours without moving? If the earth is round why don’t we fly airplanes over the south pole to get to the other side, you can’t it’s impossible to take that route. The problem with this author is he does not want you to investigate this fact or any other facts surrounding flat earth. Don’t fall for it, proof is clear, the earth is flat.

      • LifeIs

        Anonymous: about the helicopter, no. The air is spinning with the Earth.

        The helicopter and the air around it are spinning, at the same speed as the ground beneath them.

        Satellites can fly in polar orbits. This page has some good explanation. http://www-spof.gsfc.nasa.gov/Education/wlopolar.html Look under “sun synchronous orbits.”

        You can fly over the South Pole. It was first done in 1929. http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/byrd-flies-over-south-pole

        The dangers of polar routes are: increased solar radiation, especially that from solar flares. Electromagnetic effects from solar flares, interfering with communication and navigation equipment. And you’re closer to emergency landing sites and rescue, away from the poles.

        About the buildings tilting (away from you) when seen from a distance. I tried to tell you, above, the answer to the Bedford Level experiments, and the ships over the horizon, but still in sight, and the buildings not pointing away from you is: Light is 4-dimensional.

        You are focusing on a 3 dimensional slice of a 4 dimensional flow of energy. That’s what is “flat,” your slice of the image.

        That also explains the “wave-particle duality” by the way. A particle is a 3 dimensional slice and the wave is 4 dimensional.

        • Mongoose

          You are correct about the helicopter but wrong about everything else.

        • Anonymous

          Bullshit. If the atmosphere was spinning with the Earth, NASA would have to know exactly at what altitude the spinning stops and space starts. There would be a difference of potential energy of 1000mph at this point. That difference of potential energy would rip a rocket to shreds.
          You would also be telling me that the atmosphere is spinning West to East at 1000mph but is not at all effected by a hurricane traveling in the opposite direction with winds of 120mph.

    • truthseeker4809

      This entire flat earth idiocy indicates that there is no reliable authority in science in the current age.
      It’s like a huge group of sheep wandering around with no one to herd them properly.

      The ignorant pope is gathering people to advocate the global warming hoax based on the carbon dioxide produced by humans with no mention of the approaching giant brown dwarf. No wonder the whole humanity is in total disarray.

      No one knows or is trying to explain why there are gigantic sink holes forming all around the globe, no explanation of the frequent earth quakes and volcanoes, no one knows why there are so many animal death, etc etc.

      No one tries to connect all these anomaly happening in the world in a consistent scientific way.

      Are you all f*cking stupid idiots?

      • Mongoose

        Has it ever occurred to you that these things have always been occurring and we just didn’t know. It is a large earth after all, flat or not. I have lived my whole life as have most everyone else on earth without ever seeing a sinkhole, earthquake, active volcano, etc.

    • TuffENuff

      Well you can make a super Big Deal out of this, think it’s a psy-op or not, bet your career on it, make friends and enemies with it, and generally participate in all the havoc, which certainly plays into the psy-op idea. Or you can just watch the videos, open your mind, think about what is being claimed on both sides and make your own decision without turning it into a giant cosmic joke on us. (Although, if you rely solely on your imperfect human senses and pre-programmed mental bias to determine the nature of the cosmos, you are coming to a gun fight with a dull knife.)

      Even if the CIA is playing with our heads, so what? Let them have their little games, which they do without our permission or attendance anyway because that’s what they do for a living. The whole FET is fascinating and a lot of fun, and perhaps that’s the point, to keep people’s eyeballs focused here while they destroy some more of our planet over there.

    • Luxx

      I mean, everyone see’s the moon at night (weather permitting) and it ALWAYS looks the same, we never see the OTHER side of the moon.. Why is that??

      • Luxx

        CAUSE THE EARTH IS FLAT!! – You can “see” the other “side” of Earth can’t we?? regardless if it’s flat or round, but never the other side of the moon??? YES we would be able to see the other side of the moon IF the earth was round, but its NOT. Think about it.

      • Mongoose

        It just happens that the time it takes the moon to do one full 360 degree rotation is exactly the same amount of time that it takes to do one complete orbit around the earth.

        Wow what a coincidence!

        They say that this is because the earth is magnetically locked to the moon but this would only be possible if the moons north pole were orbiting the earths south pole or visa versa.

        Is the moon even claimed to have a magnetic field? I don’t’ think so. So this explanation is wrong for more than one reason.

        We have been very gullible in the past to believe such nonsense.

    • LifeIs

      Luxx we don’t see the far side of the Moon, because the Moon spins on its axis. As the Earth does, only slower. The spin of the Moon is synchronized with its orbit around the Earth.

      It’s like having a ball on a tether. And you spin around, 360 degrees, and the same side of the ball is facing you, the whole time.

      YOU

      Side B of the ball faces this way >> and
      Side B of the ball faces that way <<

      BUT side A always faces YOU in the middle.

      • Luxx

        The same can be said with the earth being flat… that’s my point. REGARDLESS if the earth was round or flat, you never see the other side of the moon, so how are you disproving that the earth is flat?

        • LifeIs

          The fact that the same side of the Moon always faces the Earth proves that the Moon is orbiting the Earth in a roughly circular orbit.

          The fact that we have high tides both under the Moon and on the opposite side of the Earth at the same time proves:

          The Earth and Moon both orbit their common center of mass, which is below the surface of the Earth. Centrifugal force produces the high tide that is opposite the Moon.

          And THAT proves a spherical Earth. The high tide that is opposite the position of the Moon.

          • Luxx

            “The fact that the same side of the Moon always faces the Earth proves that the Moon is orbiting the Earth in a roughly circular orbit.” and a dome shaped earth?? It would be the same outcome….. Your still not proving anything.

            • LifeIs

              I am proving something, but you have to read it to know.

              The center of mass of the Earth and Moon together, is what the Moon orbits. And the Earth also orbits that point.

              That point is below the surface of the Earth, but it is not at the center of the Earth. Earth swings around that point. As the Moon orbits above.

              And the centrifugal force produces a high tide. On the side of the globe that is directly opposite the Moon.

              There is a high tide under the Moon, and there is another high tide directly opposite, on the other side of the globe.

              We know how long it takes the Moon to orbit and come around again, YES?

              We have a high tide when the Moon is above us, YES?

              And we know we have ANOTHER high tide when the Moon is halfway through one orbit, YES?

              Halfway through one orbit. On the opposite side of a spherical world.

          • Luxx

            Your not proving anything..

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5LzJrVKmBk

      • LifeIs

        The diagram made with punctuation marks didn’t show up here.

        side B — side A –YOU– side A — side B

        • Luxx

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5LzJrVKmBk

          This is your answer. Disprove it, and disprove it with ACTUAL FACTS, because there is NO facts that the earth is round, only lies.

          • LifeIs

            Luxx, Luxx, Luxx, you wasted twenty-five minutes of my life with that video. You could have quoted the three or four points it attempted to make.

            The Earth’s axis points in the general direction of Polaris. (one degree off, actually. plus tiny wobbles)

            It STAYS pointed that way. No matter where the Earth is, in its orbit around the Sun. Whether the north pole is tilting toward or away from the Sun.

            Because the spin of the Earth is “tilted” relative to the plane of our orbit.

            And the distance from the poles to the equator is so small, relative to the distance of Polaris, the angle looks the same to us. No matter where we are on the Earth, the angle to Polaris is not appreciably different.

            There are no photos of the Milky Way in its entirety. Those are artwork, and no one ever said otherwise.

            The Milky Way is seen as a band across the sky, when the sky is dark.

            The constellations are relatively nearby stars that are moving with the galaxy. And moving slowly relative to each other and us, as we all orbit the center of the galaxy. Too slowly for us to notice.

            Which stars you can see depend on your location on the surface of the globe.

            Yes, you can tell the position of the Sun from the phase of the Moon, and the Sun is opposite a full moon. But we still have daylight after the sun is over the horizon. And before the sun appears above the horizon.

            We see the curvature of the Moon in the shape of its own shadow, in quarter moons and nearly-new moons.

            The brightness of the Moon comes from reflecting about 10% of the 1,300-something watts per square meter of sunlight.

            The Moon is orbiting the Sun, with us, and the phases have nothing to do with that orbit. Half of the Moon is ALWAYS facing the Sun. What we see depends on the orbit of the Moon around our common center of mass.

            Because as the Earth and Moon orbit their common center of mass, the Moon spins on its axis. And that spin is synchronized with that orbit. We see the same face of the Moon, the same side always. No matter which half of the Moon is illuminated.

            The long days and nights near the poles are produced by their tilt, toward or away from the Sun. Sunlight is attenutated, spread out over a larger area, near the poles, because of that tilt.

            And the long days are not long enough to melt an icecap.

            We don’t have 12 hours of day or night everywhere on Earth because of the tilt of the axis, the spin, relative to the plane of our orbit around the Sun.

            Your shadow lengthens as the Sun changes its angle relative to the surface you are standing upon. You can SEE that the Sun’s angle changes, relative to that surface. The Sun can be directly above your head, or it can be in front of you. No mystery.

            That’s just the way the planet is spinning. Half the Earth is illuminated at all times, but not YOUR half. YOUR half goes from having your head pointed toward the Sun, OVERHEAD, to sunset in front of you. And darkness.

            There’s a limit to how much shadows can “climb” a wall, because of sunset, but they do climb up walls. Good grief. Look sometime.

            The glare you see on water does has nothing to do with curvature. When the Sun’s angle (the angle of YOUR spot on Earth) gets low enough, the water does block the Sun, doesn’t it? The Sun SETS, when the “hump” gets in the way.

            The angle of the distant Sun doesn’t change appreciably, when you move to one side.

            Glare in the sky from sunlight shining through clouds does not change the direction of shadows on the surface of the Earth. The shadows point away from the Sun.

            When you SEE sunshine in the sky, you’re seeing light that has been scattered. Sideways. By air, by moist air, by tiny droplets of water, which is what those clouds are, by DUST. Scattered.

    • look2thesky

      In a world of lies the Truth will never be welcome –

      Basic mathematics and simple observation prove the heliocentric theroy is in fact the “psy-op”

      I pity those who are so insecure they have to cling to the lies of their kindergarten class room -

      “Shake the dust from your sandals as a testimony against…”

    • Syco

      Proving the curvature of the earth is as simple as placing two sticks in the dirt and measuring the shadows, you will note two completely different measurements even with identical sticks, say a cut to needed length dowel rod. This is how they first calculated the circumference of our little dirt ball in space. Or here is a slightly more “advanced” way to tell, buy a cheap walmart telescope, now use said scope to view Australia from Texas, what you can’t??? ohh that is because of the curve. If it can see the moon 238,900 miles away, Australia should be simple right??? Or Mars 249 million miles away but still can’t see Australia??? Hmm, me thinks it might be time for the flat earthers to seek psychological assistance.

      • Mongoose

        You get the same result on a flat earth if the sun is much closer, which it is.

    • Peter Jennings

      I’m considering creating a Flat Head Society and all flat eathers are welcome as they already have the neccessary cranium deficiency for instant membership.

      Seriously though a good peice and enjoyed the read. It has been my long time view that these notions are a syop.

      • Black Humor

        Do you accept feminists too?

    • Syco

      If you think earth is flat. I have news for you, they aliens took you in your sleep, kept the brain, replaced it with toast and put you back just to see what happens.

    • Uncle Nobby

      Riddle me this wood ya??
      The sun sets just the other evening, here in west coast Canada, and as the sky darkened, just a thin sliver pf moon was visible just above the horizon where the sun set 30 minutes before……………..
      How can the Earth be casting a shadow on the Moon if the Sun and the Moon are both on the same side of the planet?????????????????????
      also, molten iron has no magnetic field, so where does the Earth get it’s magnetic feild from, which btw is huge compared to the size of Earth??? It’s not molten iron, IT’S A BIG BALL OF PLASMA, CHARGED ELECTRICALLY FROM THE SUN.

    • Jango

      Warning! Before you talk about how ridiculous this is, don’t forget that you will have to stand before God someday and it is God who created this flat earth that does Not revolve on it’s axis or travel around the sun. Then you will see just how foolish you were and probably wish that you had done your homework better. Here’s your chance to do so. ItsHisStory.com/globe

      • 2QIK4U

        DEMON SPAWN. :twisted:

    • BuffaloBill

      For those with on open mind and with the capacity to be able to think for themselves, might want to check out:
      “Gleason Standard Flat Earth Map Reveals 24 hour Clock”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX1AIl742H4&list=PLCxC-vQeHgIcbJzGzXzbD_aFmqYz3S30X&index=2

    • 2QIK4U

      FLAT EARTH FREAKS and BRAINWASHED BIBLE BASHERS ARE THE SAME BREED.

      • Ambicatus

        o i see jango has succeeded in his aim. well done. you now have “fool” rating. i shall no longer bother with you, your mind is set, i prey that appropriate stimulus shall come upon thee, so that yuo might see, your ABOVE post is correct, django is demon spwan, more correctly a “pernicious serpent” of the same ilk as IITM, and i bet you did not even know, IITM an jango, fall under the same BABYLONIAN belief system, niether of which, has anything to do with Bible. but your too LAZY and STUPID to even find out for yourself,

        i no longer think, you have what it takes, to be a HERETIC.

        http://www.isr-messianic.org/

        and prey tell, since when can a BOOK brainwash smoeone, and well, maybe it does, it WASHES out all the BOGAN SHIIIITE

    • Anonymous

      Answer these questions if Flat Earth is a Hoax, why is it impossible for satellites to fly a polar orbit, why can’t a plane fly across Antarctica around the world, why can’t you sail a ship around Antarctica? Those who will not discuss these facts know it is impossible, it has been tried but it’s not possible because the world is flat. Eat that you lying scumbag round Earth debunker.

    • DISPENSER

      So, it’s sort of like Global warming, or I mean Climate Change. Let’s hope we never see Climate Stagnation.

    • ryan

      people are midly complex computers only as good as their firm ware.
      the subconcious is incapable of logial though so incapable of telling fact from fiction.
      subconcious takes on info based on its emotional trigger level repetition and if it identifys authority tags with statement.
      you can convince anyone of anything because “I” is entirely made up of past experiences coupled wit hcurrent chemical balance in body so ifyou start with the right 3 word slogans(sub concious dosnt order stuff it takes it on most emotionaly charged word at a time rather then sentances so nice short slogans work best) you can provide the scafold to place any belief structure you could care to onto it.
      you can make a highly trained bio scientist athiest have a apiphany with about 15 mins of 1 on 1 behavioural modification so long as they are in a open state of mind at the time ive seen the docos to prove it and some very confused scientists that logicly know one thing but now emotionaly believe another :twisted:

    • Philibuster

      The bible is not crystal clear in explaining about the sun, moon, stars, earth, etc. and how they work. And there are also people who don’t believe the bible, so what is needed is evidence that anyone can see and understand to show how things work. The thing that shocked me the most was clear evidence that the earth is not turning to cause day and night. During the day the sun moves across the sky from left to right and according to what we all were taught it is because of the earth turning. So then at night the sun would have to move from our right to left on the other side of the ball earth and then in the morning from left to right again. But we all have seen pictures of the midnight sun north of the arctic circle going around in a complete circle from left to right. As far as I can see that is positive proof that it is the sun moving across the sky and not the earth turning. The reason it is so hard to believe is because it means the lies are very deep and nothing can be believed that we were taught about the heavens. It’s time to start over and discover how everything works.

      • Mongoose

        I agree completely. This was the smoking gun that first got my attention as well and made me start taking this topic seriously.

        The problem is that alot of people are just soooo stupid now a days that it is very difficult to make them understand this point.

        • Philibuster

          Well they have to get serious and put their brain in gear and then anyone can get it eventually. It took me a few days to get it real clear in my head and now the problem is believing how deep the lies are. real often in the news is something about some new discovery in space or a satellite pic of something and I shake my head and wonder when the truth will finally come out. Not that I know the truth about everything but the lies are so big I don’t believe anything nasa or the government says anymore.

    • Anonymous

      Answer these questions if Flat Earth is a Hoax, why is it impossible for satellites to fly a polar orbit, why can’t a plane fly across Antarctica around the world, why can’t you sail a ship around Antarctica? Those who will not discuss these facts know it is impossible, it has been tried but it’s not possible because the world is flat.
      The US Government is spending $32 Billion to stop the public from investigating Flat Earth theory, even President Obama has ordered the government to prevent discussion of this topic.

    • ablinkin

      If your don’t believe the government or media for anything you’ve seen over your lifetime then the flat earth might be believable. Is your “proof” pictures or videos? Question the source. You can’t in day to day life tell that the world is round. Most haven’t seen the curvature of the earth. The only proof I have is my satellite dish points up and south.

      • Anonymous

        That satellite dish is a clue because there are high rise apartments where the dishes are not pointing up at all, more like horizontal. At my house, my neighbor’s trees interfere with reception so the source is not very high at all. Sounds more like they are pointing toward towers or balloons.

    • Debbie

      Easy to solve – flat earth? let’s see a picture of the edge of it………

      • Mongoose

        The antarctic treaty guarantees that if you try you will be turned away at gunpoint. Now why do you suppose that is?

    • twodads

      Back in 622 AD, a friend of a friend of his lovers girlfriends child heard it from some dude named Mahammad who loved goats said that her friends brothers sisters first cousin who he is married to her Dad that her husband (the brother) said that Uncle Mum told his nice of his first cousin when he got married to her, whose grandfather the husband (who had 6 fingers) of the cousin and nephew of Aunty Jack who lost her head in the desert for some reason told that to everyone when she was dead. Yep, true story that. I reckon your statement makes for a good story & the truth to be exposed. Yep, the earth really is flat.

    • Daughter of the Church

      This piece proves nothing. It is a personal attack against Flat Earth theorists. The disputing shown in the comments section are turning towards religious beliefs. Those are facts which we know:

      A: heliocentrism, and a globe earth was never proven until a man went into space. This man was Yuri Gagarine. A man in space is the sole “proof” that the earth is a globe.

      B: the space-program is showing to be a fraud, this means that the sole proof that the earth is a globe cannot be trusted.

      C: one man claims to have been in space. He describes the earth as being flat through a book -written in the antediluvian time. This man’s name is Enock. The Prophet Enock, mentioned thrice in the Bible, has been named by Our Lady of La Salette as been one of the two witnesses with the Prophet Elias. Our Lady of La Salette, Mother of God, Queen of Prophets spoke of out time.

      D: the fourth fact is that the Flat Earth theory has become a worldwide dispute for just a few time, and does not go away.

      C: the final fact is that both sides either Globe Earth or Flat Earth are shouting “deception!”

      There is now a choice to be made, the lukewarm and the undecided will be shot as wanderers in between two trenches. Chose well!

    • TruthWarrior101

      WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP! I DONT KNOW IF ITS FLAT/CONCAVE/HOLLOW ECT BUT ITS CERTAINLY NOT A SPHERE SPINNING AROUND ZOOMING AROUND OUR SUN AND HURTLING THROUGH SPACE.

      • DistantCousin

        TruthWarrior!
        That is TRULY a Majestic Name you have chosen for Yourself!
        With my lack of confidence, The name TruthWarrior would
        have never come to mind for Me.

        I stand in awe!
        RR :cool:

    • HORUS

      I just love uneducated folks who believe in all those wacky conspiracy theories.

    • 2QIK4U

      Ive said always on BINNED, Since im in Australia i’ll take a pic of the moon and Compare. NOT 1 FLATHEAD GENIUS SPOKE UP OR HAD THE BALL’s TO STEP UP ! WE LIVE ON A MARBLE . :cool:

    • 2QIK4U

      FLATHEADS GIVE CONSPIRACY REALISTS A BAD NAME :cool:

      • Ambicatus

        i shall now, show you my great treasure, and what i beleieve this world is shaped like, and how it is, its FAR cooler a belief , i would, for a 2 fold reason, would like to know, what YOU aus, have to say about THIS book, which tells of Earth and Moon,

        http://www.franky1.com/Earth%20and%20Moon.pdf

        its from long ago. and i, would value your opinion , so i can make final choice.

    • HO2

      Funny how gullible people are.

    • Vic

      The only gullible people are those that believe that some mystical force holds the immense oceans on the outside of a spinning globe yet it can’t hold down a butterfly in flight.

      You would have to be gullible to believe that the atmosphere spins along with the earth in one direction yet planes can fly in all directions, east, west, north and south and are not in any way affected.

      Why is the globe earth always depicted as having a top and bottom when space is supposedly all directions? On a globe earth, buildings stick out at all angles held on by magic gravity, yet gravity could not hold the immense weight at the top of a structure sticking out on the sides of earth. Things fall over easily especially the higher they are. Gravity can’t stop it.

      • DistantCousin

        Do you suffer from assorted Mental Blocks?
        Mathematics and similar areas of Science?
        Avoided learning things so complicated as aerodynamics?
        Willfully lived your life refusing to learn history?

        Have you ever Sailed on a ship?
        Flown over Southern Greenland on a Cloudless Day?
        Peered out over the Sea From a Mountaintop?
        Studied maps of the Southern “Hemisphere”?

        To defend and justify your ignorance, it appears you have
        created and defined your own form of reality.
        Comparable to when a four year old girl creates a real world
        in which she can play with her “My Little Ponies”.

        RR :cool:

    • DISPENSER

      Expose the morons, and hope they don’t breed.

    • pulltabjunkie

      Another ridiculous article, from either a misinformed sheeple, or a troll. There is a ton of information out there that disproves many of the theories we have been taught our whole lives concerning a spherical earth. The Pygathorean formula (given to us by NASA) which is used to figure the curvature of the earth, actually disproves the sphere theory. There is not one, single, solitary untouched photograph of the earth from space…period. Why is that? If we have satellites then why are there no photos of a spherical earth from space. That alone is enough to discredit anything NASA has to say. All they have to do is take ONE untouched photograph of the earth from space, and all of us Flat Earthers would cease and desist. They will never do that, because they can’t. Hence, the FE model and the dome. People like this Mark (chode) below are a prime example of the argument given. All they have is “name calling” and stomping their feet like a child. They have no concrete evidence at all. Every argument against FE is nothing more than repeating what they read from NASA or mainstream scientists, both of which are completely untrustworthy sources due to the mountain of lies and CGI’s. At the end of the day, FE simply makes more sense, and damn sure has more concrete science.

    • pulltabjunkie

      So let’s see. The earth is supposedly spinning 1,000 mph, and circling the sun @ 18.5 miles per second, and the sun is moving 45,000 mph through space (all according to google, lmao). With that being said, I would like for some spherical expert (and there are apparently a lot of you) to explain how you can set up a time lapse camera from anywhere, aim it at the north star, start filming, and get perfect circles on film day after day after day with no variations. Or how are we able to see the same constellations night after night, season after season. The stars are supposedly millions of light years away, which means they would not be attached to us or our atmosphere in any way. So if we are spinning 1000 mph, and the sun is spinning around AND moving through space, how is that possible? It would be like pulling a slot machine handle every night. You would get different views of space EVERY night. This one point alone debunks every figure that NASA has ever spewed out of their mouths, and yet there’s still people like this guy Mark. Oh, and that proves that the world is already overrun with zombies, lol.

    • Chaika

      I have seen too much heart ache to feel anything but loathing for all you ridiculous humans. I am a gull. I have more “flight” hours, proportionally, than any of you. I have seen more than any of you. And what I have seen has broken the hearts of many I have known, and it really is immaterial to us, whether you stupid destroyers of our lovely planet think it it is round or not. You kill us with your long lines, and your drag nets and spears and all kinds of other weapons of death you use against creation. We wish that all of you would journey in your planes and boats and submarines to the cold walls of the world and there step off into what? You do not know! We, the fish, and the animals would all rejoice, and be well rid of all of you. We only scream, and squabble and fly around your stupid piers and beaches and rubbish dumps, so you can think us silly and of no account. So go on squabbling like you see us doing. We just do it to fool you. But we know your hearts. That they are evil, self seeking, cruel and destructive. And YOU fool nobody. May God, the Creator of all, be your judge at the end of all things.

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