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    • Ambicatus

      The original Flat Earth Society fizzled out after the Soviets launched Sputnik – a satellite which reappeared at intervals and seemed to prove the Earth was round – but a new, defiant group of Flat Earthers have reappeared on the Flat Earth forums.

      The forums are adamant the Earth is flat – but very emphatic about the fact that it IS NOT carried through space on the back of a giant turtle.

      Current Flat Earthers adhere to a wide variety of beliefs – some truly insane – but some of the core beliefs of current Flat Earthers are below.

      1. The Earth looks flat – so it must be flat

      Honestly, this is one of their reasons –

      2. It’s cheaper to fake journeys into space than it is to journey into space

      And a global conspiracy has been embezzling all that money ever since the 50s

      3. Satellite photos are ‘easily faked’

      And the global conspiracy has been doing so for five decades.

      4. ‘Day’ and ‘night’ are created by the sun orbiting in a circle above, then beneath the North Pole

      The sun also moves sideways – hence winter and summer. They think of everything!

      5. People who think they’ve flown round the Earth have just travelled in a big circle round the North Pole

      The Earth is like a pancake, with the North Pole in the middle, see.

      6. It all stays together because there’s a big ice wall round the edge

      The oceans don’t spill off because there’s a wall of ice – called Antarctica. The Flat Earth society admit to being ‘curious’ as to what lies beyond this.

      7. Gravity doesn’t exist

      Instead, the Earth is constantly accelerating upwards, so the force of gravity is like being pushed into your seat in a car, see?

      8. Earth is accelerating upwards due to ‘dark energy’

      It all tallies with Einstein, the maniacs boast, as Einstein whirrs gently in his grave.

      9. Photos from aeroplanes look curved because of the windows

      … and satellite shots look rounded at the edge due to the ‘spotlight’ under the sun, which is only a few thousand miles up.

      10. An experiment proved that a six-mile stretch of water was flat

      Except it didn’t really. It was famously misread by previous Flat Earthers…

      so, whats it like being TERMINALLY retarded? hmm?

      • The Thinning Veil Report

        most of what you have said here comes from the flat earth society, which is what is called ‘controlled opposition’. they mix ridiculous claims in with truths to discredit the notion of a non- spinning ball earth.

        the rest is a cross between lies and your own ignorance.

        please investigate more than one group before jumping to conclusions.

        the flat earth makes more sense logically than the alternatives and there are far more evidences and reproducible, empirical proofs for a flat world than for a spinning ball.

        flat earth has been proven, over and over again, but the ball is necessary in order for the theories of evolution and the big bang to be promulgated. in order for man to put himself at the top, a creator MUST be hidden, can’t you see?

        peace.

        • No time

          Once you go flat, you will never go back. We are prisoners in this world of deception. The only way out is through your heart. World Wide Web, the Internet, sounds like a trap. It is, we are the Demons caught in this Dimension. We have been enslaved in the physical realm. Know the truth, and the truth will set you free.

          • vapor

            Interesting video with interesting points made.. Theres a problem though.. Im an astronomer. If the earth is flat then why are all planets round when viewed under good optics? Plus our sun is round and sun spots move in rotation with the sun. This can be seen with a solar filtered telescope. How do you explain this?

            • The Thinning Veil Report

              i have never been there, lol, but one theory is that the stars, sun are round disks. a disk can rotate too.
              also, the reasoning that if we can see something(s) in the heavens that looks like a ball, we must be a ball too is like saying i can see skyscrapers everywhere so i must too be a skyscraper.

              not my best analogy, need more coffee, but you get it.

            • The Thinning Veil Report

              THE COMMENTERS CINTUS, RAIN, AMBICATUS, DEANO ARE THE SAME PERSON. ADMITTEDLY.
              THEY ALSO HAVE MANY OTHER HANDLES HERE ON THE BIN PAGES.

              THEY ENJOY COPY/PASTING PEOPLE’S WORDS ABOVE THEIR INSULTS AND BLATHERINGS AND ALSO ENJOY AGREEING WITH EACH OTHER AND SLAPPING THEMSELVES ON THE BACK.

            • Cintus Supremus

              “ADMITTEDLY.”

              EXCELLENT, FOOL.

              This will be an easy one for you to prove to your fellow soft-in-the-head flat earthers.

              SHOW ME where it is ‘admitted’ that we are all the same.

              I dare you.

              Cite the page, the article, the quote… whatever you have.

              You see clown, you’ve just slipped over the edge into outright brazen and bald-faced lying.

              So now, I not only doubt your ability to think… I doubt your ability to be honest. And since I now doubt even your sincerity, then I have nothing but disdain for you.

              MAKE ME THE LIAR, FOOL.

              Go ahead.

              Show everyone reading this pathetic page which one of us is the outright fabrication.

            • Cintus Supremus

              That’s what I thought.

            • Knarlydawg

              Slam dunk, flat earth paradigm shattering proof.

              This is an actual duplication of the Bedford level experiment and it is proof positive and easily repeatable evidence of earth curvature.

              WE LIVE ON A SPHERICAL BODY…..IT IS PROVABLE…..END OF DEBATE !!

              http://www.pbs.org/video/2365763828/

              :eek: :eek: :eek: :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

            • Knarlydawg

              Slam dunk, flat earth paradigm shattering proof.

              This is an actual duplication of the Bedford level experiment and it is proof positive and easily repeatable evidence of earth curvature.

              WE LIVE ON A SPHERICAL BODY…..IT IS PROVABLE…..END OF DEBATE !!

              http://www.pbs.org/video/2365763828/

              :eek: :eek: :eek: :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

        • Ambicatus

          cool, just know, every time i get a new group of people to manage, ill ask who believe in flat eARth, ask, them, to move to one side, ands then kill them all, right at start. same as if i ask a profligate “whats the first Commandment” and they cant answer? im just telling you now, i get ANY refugee’s that believe in flat earth, i isolate, AND KILL THEM. and this LAW shal apply to ALL Affiliated Associations of which there are MANY. including the IRA. so good fkn luck shtface hippy scum,

          • AmbrociousXP

            You would kill people for having the wrong notion of the world and how it works? What is this, the Spanish Inquisition???

            • Ambicatus

              Rain, yes, very much so, we are adherents to The Constitution, and Ambro XP,. yes, , once it is Lawfull to do so, for the Constitution states:

              Exo 22:18 “Do not allow a practiser of witchcraft to live.

              and this flat earth story toattly qualifies, as a “spell” is nothing more than a set of word which alters the perception of a given party. bam.

              As such, laws which clearly apply within a civil or national context are not to be misapplied by individuals living in a society that is not totally subject to the Torah as its constitution and legal code. Thus for example, you may not decide to stone someone to death for desecrating the sabbath. The decision would have to be made by a judge within the framework of such a Torah-based nation. Clearly then, although these laws are still applicable, since the context in which they are to be applied is lacking at present, they can only be applied when such a Torah-true nation comes into existence (for example, when Messiah returns to set up his Kingdom).

              So, only when a Constitutional Monarchy comes into existance, and i am then authorised by Law, to carry out such claims. so yes. we kill kill people for being anti-life, anti-truth and for breaking any of the Laws that deserve DEATH. and lying, deserves DEATH. so most definateky. i look forward to it greatly, i am , how you say “giddy with excitement”

              AND. it gets worse, when the Constitution kicks in, we gonna execute people for just DISAGREEING with the Constitution, its called “SEDITION” here are the most important catagories destined for the burn pile:

              Mal 3:5 “And I shall draw near to you for right-ruling. And I shall be a swift witness against the practisers of witchcraft, and against adulterers, and against them that swear to falsehood, and against those who oppress the wage earner in his wages and widows and the fatherless, and those who turn away a sojourner and do not fear Me,” said יהוה of hosts.

              o, theres that RIGHT RULING thing again. SWIFT witnesses, ie, KILL THEM FAST AND HARD AND BRING THE LAW TO THE WORLD when The Most High, says so, not me, nor any other.

              o and by the way, COMPLAINING, is ALSO against the Law.

              o and….

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAn7baRbhx4

              we faaaar worse, and a response to the evils done unto the Ostrogoths, Vandals, and so many others, so, nice comparison btw, yes, but on steriods and with vikings.

            • Ambicatus

              o and Ambro,,,, heres a pleasant thought, you see, on this here BIN, there are PLENTY of hardcore students of Scripture, and , you dont see ANY of them nay-saying me, or being able to rebuke my statements of that which is said in the Book, for i have brough NOTHING but what the Book IMPLICITLY states.

              and like, what you think this is all about:

              Rev_14:20 And the winepress was trodden outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress, up to the bridles of the horses, for about three hundred kilometres.
              .

              thats a CITY being EXECUTED. or rather SACRIFICED, or PUT UNDER THE BAN.

              so yes. inquisition on steriods, with super powers, and vikings, repent or die. easy. still got PLENNY time. :^)

            • deano

              EXACTLY Ambro!….Jesuit Priests silencing the PROTEST-ers/ants….

              Jesuit Cardinal Bellarmine >>>>(on Galileo’s Heliocentric theory)

              “” it is a very dangerous thing,likely not only to irritate all scholastic philosophers and theologians, but also to harm the Holy Faith by rendering Holy Scripture false.”

              are we still to believe the EARTH is the centre of the Solar System and the Sun orbits us ?

              NATIONAL ACADAMEY OF SCIENCE ~ set up by Emeritus(Doctors) called the “Scientific Lazzaroni”……..who silenced, ridiculed and opposed these new heretic ideas of Evolution…….and funnily enough the UFO DEBUNKER (P J KLass) stated he will only pay the $10 000 reward for evidence,

              IF VERIFIED by the National Academy of Science…….who also started the SMITHSONIAN, whose radiant wave SUN-logo is the same as that of the Jesuits, the IHS, the SOCIETY of JESUS……..

              Original Scientists =Scholastic Philosopher or Theologian…….

        • Anonymous

          ” they mix ridiculous claims in with truths..”

          What truths? Tell me these truths , and WHY these alleged truths are absolute.

          “the rest is a cross between lies and your own ignorance.”

          Ignorance of what, exactly.. the “truths” you have yet to express? In that regard, I’m ignorant too. Please enlighten me.

          “flat earth makes more sense logically than the alternatives..”

          How so? You must mean, more sense to YOU. Explain your logic. To me, that is a nonsensical statement, as it only provides an opinion.. that is, until you provide even just one “empirical proof”, or a “truth” as you claim, but have not exhibited here.

          “flat earth has been proven…….”

          Really? Again, this remains an opinion until you prove your proof, heh.. so please write your proof here.

          “..the ball is necessary in order for the theories of evolution and the big bang to be promulgated.”

          Huh? What is the connection to those theories?

          If you answer these questions then we can work together to dispel ignorance, once and for all to see.. Truth matters not to those who are ignorant of it, so bring it! Let’s wipe the face of the earth clean of ignorance and delusion.

          I’ll be waiting for your answers and truths. Thanks.

          • Anonymous

            rain,
            The only proof that will work for you is buying your own zoom lens and taking your own pics. Until then all the evidence in the world will not surpass your lifetime brainwashing that started when you were waddling around in diapers.
            Get out on some large open water on a calm day and see for yourself. You will shed some of your brainwashing and perhaps those diapers as well.

            • Ambicatus

              exactly my point. i have the cure for flat earth belief. in the coming days of chaos, i shall quizz the people, and i shall prevent the proliferation of this insane toxic belief, because it is clear symptoms of something far more belial than imagined. the real question is, if someone begins to belive in flat earth, then what? well, then NOTHING is true, everything is a lie, and you can just make up your own fantasy to live within, it is total voluntary self delusion, and, in factory terms, DEFECTIVE , recall, for instance, like the inbred submorons you see on teevee, that “scare factor show” and the monster comes out, and they go for their phones… no fight or flight reflex, BROKEN DEFECTIVE units, that NO amount of proof, nor anything, will sway their self induced hypnosis, these are the weakest of the species we are seeing first, the true horror, of that which comes, is so great, that they have created an illusion in which to feel safe, and this amuses me, as pale faced they will drown in their own blood.

            • Anonymous

              Dude, I travel the world as a researcher and observer. I’ve been to the top of Khardungla, 18,000+ in the himalayas, and Fuji in japan…
              Been on the oceans, been to the salt flats, playas…

              you could say I’ve had a pretty good perspective on the world.

              So, rather than attempting to belittle someone for asking valid questions, perhaps you should check your own pants for the load you carry., and stop trying to detract from real inquiry.

            • Anonymous

              street jimmy..

              I’m with you. Just ask Jed.

            • Ambicatus

              um, deano, Almost unknown to most Christian literature is the name of Andreas Rudolph B. Carlstadt, the great apostle of the seventh day Sabbath. He was born in Carlstadt, Bavaria, in 1480 and died in Basel, Switzerland, on December 25, 1541, at the age of 61 years. Carlstadt was a personal friend and co-worker with Martin Luther but strenuously opposed him on the Sabbath issue. Carlstadt observed the seventh day Sabbath and taught its observance. D’Aubigne says that Luther himself admitted that Carlstadt was his superior in learning (Fifield’s History. Reference book ten, page 315).

              The rejection of the Sabbath at the Council of Trent at once crippled the advance of the Reformation. Protestants and Protestant reformers will be held responsible on Judgment Day for their unfaithfulness at a time when the entire Roman Church pivoted toward discarding all tradition.

              At this point let us refer to the eminent Doctor Dowling. In his History of Romanism, book two, chapter one, he says: “The Bible, and the Bible only, is the religion of Protestants.” It is, further, of no “. ..account in the estimation of a genuine Protestant how early a doctrine originated if it is not found in the Bible…” Hence if a doctrine be propounded for his acceptance, he asks, “Is it found in the inspired word? Was it taught by the Lord Jesus Christ or His apostles?” It did not matter to him whether it had been discovered in the musty folio of some ancient visionary of the third or fourth century or whether it emerged from the fertile brain of some modern visionary of the nineteenth. If it was not found in the sacred Scriptures it presented no valid claim to be received as an article of his religious creed. He who receives a single doctrine from the mere authority of tradition, by so doing steps down from the Protestant Rock, passes over the line that separates Protestantism from Popery and give no reason why he should not receive all the earlier doctrines and ceremonies of Romanism.

              Again, the Italian historian Gavassi says, “A pagan flood flowing into the church, carried with it its customs, practices and idols” (Gavazzi’s Lectures, Page 290).

              To quote another authority, Dr. White, Bishop of Ely: “The observance of the seventh day was being revived in Luther’s time by Carlstadt” (Treatise of the Sabbath, page 8). And from Sears’ Life of Luther, page 402: “Carlstadt held to the Divine authority of the Sabbath from the Old Testament.”

              Indeed Luther says (in his book Against the Celestial Prophets): ”Indeed, if Carlstadt were to write further about the Sabbath, Sunday would have to give way, and the Sabbath—that is to say, Saturday—must be kept holy.”

              Carlstadt said: “In regard to the ceremonies of the Church, all are to be rejected which have not a warrant in the Bible.”

              Luther asserted on the contrary, “Whatever is not against the Scripture is for it.”

              “Not so,” said Carlstadt. “We are bound to the Bible, and no one may decide after the thoughts of his own heart” (Sears’ Life of Luther, pages 401 ,402).

              “It cannot be denied that in many respects Carlstadt was in advance of Luther, and doubtless the Reformation owes him much good for which he has not the credit” (McClintok and Strong’s Cyclopedia, Volume 2, page 123). References in the following paragraph are taken from History of the Sabbath by Andrews. See third edition, 1887:

              “From the Catholic(Roman) teaching of justification by works of penance, etc., Luther went to the opposite extreme of justification without works. This idea caused him to deny that the Epistle of James was inspired, because James said, ‘Faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.’ This attitude made Luther spurn the true Christian Sabbath.”

              Read what Draper says: “Toward the close of Luther’s life it seemed as if there were no other prospects for papal power than total ruin. Yet at this day, 1930, out of three hundred millions of Christians, more than half owe allegiance to Rome (1967: Moslems 500 million, Roman Catholics 550 million, at least). Almost as by enchantment the Reformation ceased to advance. Rome was not only able to check its spread but even to gain back a portion of what she had lost” (Intellectual Development, Volume 2, page 216).

              Protestant Victory Almost Won, But Lost, Why?

              Now in dealing with the Council of Trent (held in northeast Italy, and lasting from 1545 to 1563 A.D.), we must quote another well-versed writer, G.E. Fifield, DD, in his incomparable tract, Origin of Sunday as a Christian (?) Festival (Published by American Sabbath Tract Society, Seventh Day Baptist Church). To quote Dr. Fifield: “At the council of Trent, called by the Roman Church to deal with questions arising out of the Reformation, it was at first an apparent possibility that the Council would declare in favor of the reformed doctrines instead of against them, so profound was the impression made thus far by the teachings of Luther and other reformers.”

              The Pope’s legate actually wrote to him that there was ”strong tendency to set aside tradition altogether, and to make the Scriptures the sole standard of appeal.” The question was debated day by day, until it was fairly brought to a standstill. Finally the Archbishop of Reggio turned the Council against the Reformation by the following argument: ”The Protestants claim to stand upon the written word only; they profess to hold the Scriptures alone as the standard of faith. They justify their revolt by the plea that the Church has apostatized from the written word and follows tradition. Now the Protestant’s claim that they stand upon the written word alone is not true.”

              Why Lutheran Claim Was Not True

              “Their profession of holding the Scriptures alone as the standard of faith is false. Proof: The written word explicitly enjoins the observance of the seventh day as the Sabbath. They do not observe the seventh day, but reject it. If they truly hold the Scriptures alone as the standard, they would be observing the seventh day as it is enjoined in the Scripture throughout. Yet they not only reject the observance of the Sabbath as enjoined in the written word, but they have adopted, and do practice, the observance of Sunday, for which they have only the tradition of the (Catholic) Church.”

              “Consequently, the claim of Scripture alone as the standard fails and the doctrine of ‘Scripture and tradition as essential’ is fully established, the Protestants themselves being Judges.” See The Proceedings of the Council of Trent, Augsburg confession and Encyclopedia Britannica, article “Trent, Council of.” At this argument, the party that had stood for the Scripture alone surrendered, and the Council at once unanimously condemned Protestantism, and the whole Reformation. It at once proceeded to enact stringent decrees to arrest its progress.

              Results of the Reformation

              Now what were the results of the Reformation? Let us hear what Myers says: “The outcome of the revolt, very broadly stated, was the separation from the Roman Catholic Church of the Northern, or Teutonic nations, that is to say, of Northern Germany, parts of Switzerland and the Netherlands, and of Denmark, Norway, Sweden, England and Scotland. The Romance Nations, namely, Italy, France and Spain, together with Celtic Ireland, adhered to the old Church.” Of the spiritual results of the revolt the same writer says: ”In a spiritual or religious point of view, this severance of the Northern nations of the bonds that formerly united them to the ecclesiastic empire of Rome meant a transfer of their allegiance.” And he finally sums up. “Thus one half of Western Christendom was lost to the Roman Church.”

              From this we see that the Roman Church, attacked by the Reformers, had at one time faced utter defeat. But she recovered! The reformers had dealt a death blow to the Papacy. Unfortunately, the reformers themselves bound up the wound by clinging to Sunday, Rome’s day, and to other Papal traditions. They rejected the Sabbath of the Scriptures.

              —Compiled from a tract by Raymond Clark, DD

              Conclusion: “Come out of her, my people . . . ” – Revelation 18:4-8

          • Ambicatus

            and Rain, :D Fondest salutations and greetings, i pray that Father inundates you with blessings and His Favour.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq4seuBFxIM&list=PLnLUdwS-h7hYKiBGQMFo8m5zS0dp-Bw6l

            • Anonymous

              Thank you, Ambicatus, you relieve me of my debt.

              I know that the glint of your blade is Father flashing a smile.

            • The Thinning Veil Report

              rain, ambicatus, cintus, beef and others on this page are all the same guy.

              admittedly so.

            • Ambicatus

              indeed,

              Eph_4:3 being eager to guard the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace –

              but only with the Set Apart, i am glad you see us as one, for we have the same Master, and if we all sung different tunes, how pointless it would be, yet here we have a group of very difficult men, all agreeing on a very complex subject, which is TOTALLy anti mainstream and totally anti politically correct, and yet we all agree, to us this is most amusing, and yeah let it be so if ye think of us as one, for we are different parts of One Body, we try always build each other up, never break down, be it psyche or physical, we seek refinement, we seek to make each of each other, better servants of YaHWeHShua Messiah, King of kings and Lord of lords. What was, will be again, how can you people forget Sigem and the citys of Canaan? The Wars of YaHWeH are soon upon you, hast thou met thy brethren? i have, and great is my joy, for their coolness is excessive, their insults crisp an fresh, their taunts are top grade and the Book they KNOW. so yaaaay flat brain, whats it like to be dead an not even know it? o wait, paradox. kwaaaaaaaaa

            • Anonymous

              haha.. Veil, wow, this be one prolific guy you built in your mind, workin’ hard, we is..
              You know, actually, as expressed by Ambicatus, we are not one person, but one in spirit, looking to defend truth as we see it.
              You, of course, perceive truth differently than us in this matter, but only because you are in desperate need of a good pair of glasses.. probably the coke bottle type, with clip on magnifiers..
              hah……… and surely you realize that much of what may seem to be malicious degradation by way of insult, is meaningless really.. but i can only speak for myself regarding that. On the other hand, screw you.. haha.. take care.. rainscrypt/RAIN……. aw crap!

        • chefjim

          It is he that sitteth upon the circle (sphere) of the earth, Isaiah 40:22 Parentheses mine

          • Mongoose

            The word in question is this:
            H2329

            חוּג
            chûg
            khoog
            From H2328; a circle: – circle, circuit, compassive
            Total KJV occurrences: 3

            It does not mean sphere.

            • Knarlydawg

              It most certainly can mean “sphere”.

              You willfully neglected to include information farther down the page of your source.

              You are pushing an agenda, not the truth.

              (Isaiah 40:42), H2329 circle, circuit , compass as being some kind of biblical proof of the flat earth……..well you failed to include some information from a little farther down the page that says…….” Gesenius’ Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon חוּג m. a circle, SPHERE, used of the arch or vault of the sky, Prov. 8:27; Job 22: 14; of the world, Isa. 40:22.”……. and.. חוּגchûwg, khoog; from H2328; a circle:—circle, circuit, compass. Outline of Biblical Usage [?] to encircle, encompass, describe a circle, draw round, make a circle. (Qal) to encircle, encompass …..Synonyms for encompass….envelop, encircle, enclose, environ……all could easily be pertaining to a globe or sphere.

          • jtricer1973

            Not to bust your bubble but a circle and a sphere are 2 different things.

        • HypothesisFree

          Under the flat earth model, what we would expect to see at dusk is the sun disappearing into COMPLETE darkness well above the horizon (combined with a slight reduction in the perceived size of the sun). However, this notion of a flat earth is COMPLETELY debunked by simply observing a bright sunset event over the oceans horizon. Not only does the BRIGHT sun appear to come into contact with the oceans horizon (which in and of itself is sufficient to dispel the flat earth theory already), the sun also completely disappears below the oceans horizon (with no perceived reduction in the sun’s size).

          Never mind how a partial lunar eclipse clearly shows the round curvature of the earth’s shadow upon the moon.

          The only question left in my mind is: “Why has there been an organized effort (assumed to be led by the Rothschild Zionist fake Jews) to fiercely push this bunk theory on the public for years on end”?

          From blogger lucid_ity:

          There are so many ways to disprove flat earth.

          Here’s one:

          Why, when the sun is at the horizon in one location, does the sun appear to be directly overhead in another location, exactly where round earth models predict?

          For example, look at webcams in Europe to see the sun setting. Then look overhead in the US. How do you explain that with a flat earth model? Then there’s the obvious issue of middle of the day being the middle of the night on the opposite side of the world.

          • Mongoose

            Do the clouds disappear above the horizon or do they touch it?

            If you view a sunset over land where the air is dry, you can see the size of the sun diminish as it gets further away.

      • Before It Was All Pop Ups

        You forgot about the ‘Dome’ theory.

      • chefjim

        Talk about controlled opposition! The thinning Veil is it! The flat earth theory resembles everything that is going on in this backward world right now where right is wrong and wrong is right and men lay down with men and women with women and the complex creation came about by CHANCE.. all ideas from SATAN. We are in a lawless time or to be more specific, the END of the age where truth has been watered down to mean anything to anyone and nothing to everyone. Now, one only needs THINK he is a girl and he is allowed access to the girls room where the separation of the sexes has ALWAYS taken precedence and LOGIC has always dictated truth, e.g. if you have a penis, you are a man, if you have a vagina, you are a woman, if you have some of each, you have an extremely rare form of mutated DNA and comprise less than one hundreth of one percent of the population. This flat earth thing is just another blatant way of saying that the world has literally gone nuts and is also a way for those who hate people who can think to try to steer the majority away from looking at ANYTHING that goes against the mainstream. This flat earth nonsense will cause those who doubt all conspiracy FACT from waking up because they will say to themselves, “if this is where the truth (conspiracy) goes, I don’t want any part of it. They’re all nuts!” and they will stay in their world of lies and deception.

        • Damien

          and comprise less than one hundreth of one percent of the population.

          ===============

          Which is probably still twice the number of people with penises who DEMAND DEMAND DEMAND to be considered women. :grin:

          The number of people ‘out there’ who DEMAND DEMAND DEMAND that other theoretical people with penises are considered women on the other hand … :roll:

          • [H4L]ÃÐV!SØRY

            Flat Earth 18 06 2016 – https://youtu.be/20jrwHqppx0
            White people are stupid :!: (OPEN YOUR EYES see what is going on around you now French :eek: )
            99% of people (beforeitsnews) are stupid. Luckily, I’m part of the other 2% :mrgreen:

    • Knarlydawg

      For the Flat Earthers……….please explain the spin direction of draining water being opposite, in the “fake” southern hemisphere, of that in the “fake” northern hemisphere. How can these opposing spin states exist on a non-spinning, non-moving plain earth that has no gravity ? Spirals and spin seem to be a very important part of GOD’s creation (i.e. Fibonacci Ratio, gravity being a function of spin, electron spin and orbital behavior, tornado and hurricane spin, spin stabilized projectile flight, Viktor Schauberger’s work, etc., etc.).

      Why is our Creator only considered great and wonderful if He created a huge terrarium and not a whole lot more magnificent for creating a mind blowing Universe full of endless galaxies and endless possibilities for His Creation to encompass far more than the Bible could ever reveal to our limited intellect ?

      I agree that there are some real problems with the present globe paradigm but that doesn’t automatically default to a Flat Earth paradigm either. I see problems with both perspectives so maybe the true reality is something outside of our present understanding.

      One thing that this crazy debate does reveal beyond any doubts, is that we have been heavily deceived about a lot subjects. Perhaps this debate is designed to be another major distraction to keep us looking in the wrong directions. :idea: :eek: :shock:

      • Mongoose

        It’s not true. Check out your toilet and you will see that the jets are pointed in one direction and not strait down or in opposing directions. It is the direction of the jets that determines the flush. If you test standing water in your sink you will see that it does not always go in the same direction.

        This is what convinced me that the earth is most likely flat. The midnight arctic sun should appear to move in an oval in the sky from inside the arctic in the summer if the globe model were correct. No oval, no globe:!:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndlQNicOeso

        /science-and-technology/2016/03/this-is-what-convinced-me-that-the-earth-is-flat-and-the-globe-is-bunk-2814558.html

        • Cintus Supremus

          So Mongoose, you gave up exploration after you stuck your head in the toilet and had a look around? That was your eureka moment?

          How about those pesky cyclonic storm systems that rotate in opposite directions north and south of the equator.

          Tis called the CORIOLIS EFFECT. Look it up.

          NEVER have I seen a flat-earther even attempt to offer an explanation for this phenomenon. In general, I find this to be true because flat earthers have not even heard about the Coriolis Effect. Learning about such things entails doing actual study, rather than seeking feverishly to and fro across the inter-ether for the faintest whiff of confirmation of your pre-determined conclusions.

          • Mongoose

            The storms also do not follow the rules. I have seen them go opposite of what the coriolis predicts.

            I don’t appreciate you shill tactics, always so abrasive with you shills.

            • Mongoose

              As to why the majority of storms do comply with the so called coriolis affect, this is explained by the aether.

              No rotation required.

            • Cintus Supremus

              “I have seen them go opposite of what the coriolis predicts.”

              You have, have you?

              PRODUCE EVIDENCE FOR YOUR LIES.

            • Cintus Supremus

              “…this is explained by the aether.”

              Conversation with you has become an exercise in pointlessness.

              As you were.

            • Knarlydawg

              Please substantiate your claim of observation with some examples not just “I’ve seen them go”.

              What, exactly, do you mean by “this is explained by the aether.” Please elaborate.

        • Knarlydawg

          I never even considered toilet swirl as an example. (I don’t spend much time observing flushing toilet water.) My observations are of water draining from level, unobstructed sinks and tubs. Regardless of the draining water issue, it is a well documented fact that storms rotate in opposite directions in the different hemispheres and this issue is never adequately explained by the flatties.

          Sorry but your examples haven’t convinced me that the earth is a flat plain under a dome. I haven’t seen any of the flat earther argument that causes me to totally buy into it……..though I have seen enough to conclude that there are some problems with what I was taught about our earth.

          Regardless of whether it’s a globe or a flat plain…….it’s become quite clear that a lot of truth has been withheld and a lot of deception and fraud has been commited.

      • Ambicatus

        i find this whole exercise to be highly profitable, “who is patricia steere” “who is rob skiba” and the whole who, what, when where why of the whole scenario. it is an indicator of the times we live in, and a knee-jerk psychological reaction of those with the weakest minds and wills, that flock to a mental safe house, a going into the cave if you will, where you stick to a totally unfeasible untruth, to escape the crushing horror of the truth. its nearly PUNISHMENT time, and the hive mind human psyche, is reacting to the stimulus before it, the natural and supernatural events are driving this reaction. it is a defence mechanism, ooo how i love psychology

        • Ambicatus

          and to answer my questions, “witches”

    • Jango

      The reason so many still believe the spinning globe theory is because this is all we were taught. We were never taught the “other theory” which is that In the Beginning God created the heavens and the earth. This was discarded and replaced with the various theories like the Big Bang Theory, Theory of Evolution, Theory of Relativity, and so on. But let’s remember: They are only theories. Not facts. Theories are assumptions made based on known knowledge. When the knowledge changes so does the theory. Also let’s remember that science didn’t create anything, they don’t even understand it, so why should we believe them? Almost all the comments against the flat earth are made by those who have done little to no research and are simply parroting what they learned in school. Why don’t you instead do some research and make an intelligent comparison. You can find info on the “other theory” here. ItsHisStory.com/globe. Then you can continue from there and check it out for yourself. You may be very surprised at what you find….

      • Ambicatus

        you, also got a date with the irish.

      • Nanar

        Well, it’s because of science that you have electricity, a computer and internet to explain why science sucks so much :)

        • The Thinning Veil Report

          there is science, engineering, physics etc which nobody claims are useless……

          then there is scientism, the one world religion that requires the plebs undying, blind faith.

          blind faith in anything is ridiculous, whether they made a damn computer or not.

          • Nanar

            Gotta say I agree.
            Science today is full of dogmas thus making it a new religion.
            Science should always be on the fringe, especially when many researchers give a bundle of proof showing one concept is incomplete or wrong.

            Veil, I do not know if you are cynical or not with your last sentence. Considering you consider (some of) your beliefs as absolute proof :p

      • Cintus Supremus

        “The reason so many still believe the spinning globe theory is because this is all we were taught.”

        This is vain rhetoric of the most pitiable strain. This is the sort of hollow garbage all you flat-earthers spew with impunity. Platitudes. Hyperbole.

        ALL of the evidence available to the sole CAREFUL observer — everything he can see with his own eyes and deduce via his own senses, if he knows how to mentally process information properly, will lead him to only one conclusion:

        The shape of the body on which we reside is (generally speaking) the same shape as the other celestial bodies we can see with our own eyes. Day and Night. Summer and Winter. Solar and lunar eclipses. TIME ZONES. Right or wrong, the Heliocentric Model can explain ALL of the known phenomena. Flat Earth Theory can explain nothing without resorting to cartoonish suggestions — the Sun dangling from some invisible cord while it traces lazy circles around Planet Pancake? An ICEWALL no one has ever seen? Protected by an invisible army no one has ever seen? What moves the Sun? We have no idea, sayeth the Flat Earthers. By what means does it faithfully generate the seasons? We don’t know. It just does. WHAT FORCE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ACCELERATING THE EARTH ‘UPWARDS’ AT A CONSTANTLY INCREASING RATE — which would soon surpass light speed and gobble up all energy reserves in the cosmos if it were true? We have no idea. We just KNOW that’s the way things are. BUT YOU!!! All of you people who are too stupid and too brainwashed to see things the way we do… let us demean you if you can’t be made to see what we see. Let us mock you. And let us cry ‘persecution’ when and if you mock us in return.

        Because we know. That’s why. We’re the new and improved Flat Earth Society.

        I would never believe people could be so obstinate in their gullibility if I didn’t get to encounter staggering examples like THIS each and every day. If I hadn’t witnessed this sort of thing for myself, I would accuse any person trying to explain it to me of lying. No sir, I would say… people are just not capable of being so utterly deceived.

        It is I who was deceived for thinking too highly of my fellow man.

        So you can plant your flag in the soil of reason all you like, Jango. Beat your chest. Point your finger. But your claims to victory are as generally meaningless as your scriptural teaching.

      • zanaelf

        The planet is spherical and it is not a theory, it can be proven if you build your own space craft and find out for yourself.

    • Scoob Adler

      Flat Earth Turds…

      • Mongoose

        Whether globular or flat the earth is not alive and does not eat or have a digestive tract in order to produce turds.

        I am not sure that I can say the same thing about our current education/indoctrination system however. I think it is safe to say that it produced you.

        • Cintus Supremus

          At least he capitalized the ‘T.’

          So it was partially a compliment.

          • Ambicatus

            ja XD

    • Man

      gravity…. how does it work?

      • Ambicatus

        Good question, one can liken this, to a metaphor about a cannon ball being shot out of a cannon, why, does it not just carry on forever? if, the force, that initially shot it out, was constant, then it would, so your question, could be likened unto the question “why does the moon rotate around the earth, and never loose momentum?” well, the easy simple straight answer that you would NEVER accept is:

        because, Elohim Wills it.

        • Ambicatus

          and to explain the mechanics, behind something you would never accept, is pointless.

      • Mongoose

        Gravity is a hypothesis that suggests that atoms are attracted to each other but whether it works or not has never been confirmed.

        No doubt there is a force holding everything down. The unanswered question is what that force is.

        • Cintus Supremus

          “Gravity is a hypothesis that suggests that atoms are attracted to each other…”

          I’m glad you said that, Mongoose. That statement betrays an absolute lack of understanding about two things:

          1. Relativity

          2. Quantum Mechanics

          Gravity has no bearing whatsoever at the atomic and sub-atomic level. Your statement is nonsense and is something you just made up.

          • Mongoose

            Sorry, I didn’t mean to “betray an absolute lack of understanding”, whatever that means.

            BTW relativity is also a hypothesis. Man it sucks that some people are so damn stupid.

            I feel sorry for you, genuinely.

            • Cintus Supremus

              Good. And when you’ve finished feeling sorry for me, go and learn the difference between a theory and a hypothesis. You use those terms interchangeably. This too betrays the profound level of ignorance at which you function.

              But if feeling sorry for something makes you happy, then by all means, I’m happy to be your object.

    • Jan Beute

      I will rather opt for the concave earth – It will answer many questions

      • Ambicatus

        but you CANT opt. Truth is truth no matter what you chose. you can only chose truth or lie, simple as that, o and btw did you know:

        Sabbath (Seventh Day of the Week)

        This day was blessed and set apart by Elohim at creation (Ber. 2:2-3 / Gen_2:2-3). Later on it was instituted as the sign of the everlasting covenant between Elohim and His people, a sign that He sets them apart, an everlasting sign (Shem. 31:13-17 / Exo_31:13-17, Yeḥez. 20:12-20 / Eze_20:12-20). Sabbath-keeping is one of the Ten Words of the Covenant, standing forever, settled forever in heaven, founded forever (Teh. 89:34 / Psa_89:34, Teh. 111:8-9 / Psa_111:8-9, Teh. 119:89 / Psa_119:89). We would like to point out the following:

        (1) יהושע kept the Sabbath (Luk_4:16, Yn. 15:10 / Joh_15:10), and the women who were taught by Him still kept it at the time of Messiah’s burial (Luk_23:56).

        (2) Sha’ul kept it (Act_13:14, Act_13:42-44, Act_7:2, Act_18:4 & Act_18:11).

        (3) Ludia and the women kept it (Act_16:13).

        (4) In Heb_4:9 we are again reminded of the necessity of keeping the Sabbath!

        (5) Finally: After the end-time judgment has come upon this earth (Yesh. 66), and a new heavens and a new earth is established, we read in Yesh. 66:23 Isa_66:23 that the Sabbath shall still be kept!

        (6) Who then changed it to Sunday, in effect nullifying it? In Dan_7:25 we read of a horn, a sovereign (remember: in those days the gentiles regarded their sovereigns as deities). This one is often interpreted as being the Anti-Messiah, the enemy of the Chosen People. In Dan_7:25 we read that he would “intend to change appointed times (or, festivals) and law.” The RCC openly boast that they changed the Sabbath to Sunday. This change was preceded by Emperor Constantine legislating, in the year 321, that “the venerable day of the Sun” was to be kept as a day of rest. Remember: Constantine was a worshipper of Sol Invictus, the sun-deity. The “Church” soon followed suit, and in the year 336 (some give the date as 364), at the Council of Laodicea, Canon 29, the christians were commanded to observe the Sunday as well. Bishop Eusebius (270-338 CE), who worked with Constantine, admits to the Church’s decision to change from Sabbath to Sunday.

    • The Clucker

      You are getting thrashed by logic and reason once again, Thinnest Veil. One would think that you’d started to figure it out by now.

      Clucker Pro Tip: If you look at just the evidence for flat Earth theory, you might get fooled because it is a well orchestrated psy-op that has fooled many. If you look at the evidence for the Earth being round side by side with it you will realize you are being very biased and letting yourself be fooled by the establishment that you so firmly oppose.

      Looks like they got ya again.

    • 2QIK4U

      SHILLING FOR DEAD HISTORY . :lol:

    • DISPENSER

      What a hot steaming pile. A pile, not a flat turd.

    • zanaelf

      The more Flat Earthers there are, the more it becomes a human right and necessity, for the survival and sanity of the human civilisation is for the government to fund free educational space flights into Earth’s orbit, instead of financing and funding war. If money and greed is fuelling war and ignorance, humanity is doomed for extinction, never mind the collapse of civilisation.

      Taking school trips to NASA, researching the web is not enough in the baby stages of the space age. Space school trips are necessary… else ignorance and belief is going to consume knowledge, thinking and understanding.

      • Big dog.../small fish...

        You’re talking to a bunch of nuts here. You certainly don’t expect them to EDUCATE themselves do you??

      • Mongoose

        Or they could just allow private exploration of Antarctica.

        It would be really easy to prove one way or another but unfortunately the governments of the earth have restricted travel to Antarctica and will not allow independent researchers there.

        It’s almost like they have something to hide out there.

        • Nanar

          It is authorized to make an expedition for whatever reason there.
          Sports, science etc
          A dude died on an expedition there not so long ago.
          What is not authorized is to militarize that area (but that’s just on paper)

    • Daffers

      Vasco da Gama and Si Francis Drake would turn in their graves at their luck escape from sailing off the edge of the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Eggzactly

      If the Earth is FLAT, Why are Globes Round?
      If The Earth is FLAT, Why is it Round in Pictures from Space??
      You FLAT EARTH PEOPLE NEED A CHECKUP FROM YOUR NECKUP! :lol: :lol: :lol:

      • Mongoose

        There are no pictures from space, they are all composites or otherwise fakes. There should be thousands by now but there aren’t. Weird huh?

        All high altitude photos taken without a wide angle lens display a perfectly flat horizon.

    • jknbt

      I wish you flat-earthers would look at the PBS series Genius with Steven Hawking…Look at episode 6…the curvature of the earth can be easily proven with a laser and a tape measure….they measure the laser light at 10 feet away and then six miles away on a calm lake in arizona…start watching at three minutes into the show…

      if you don’t believe the video, repeat the results for yourself anywhere that you have clear line of sight over a body of calm water for six miles or more…

      • Mongoose

        A similar test was done on the Bedford level over a distance of 6 miles and no curvature was measured.

        This was not on T.V. though so you might not believe it is true.

    • ButtPincher

      Anyone who actually does any reasonable research becomes a Flat Earther.. Deniers admit it (You did zero research!) None.. Have some courage.. take a good look at the subject.. Time to wake up truthers. Have the courage to go to you tube and research Flat Earth..You will find out quite quickly .. That we are being lied to (shocking!) once more. In fact not theory the Earth is flat..there is no space to go too..there are no “planets” just lights in the firmament..There is no space program.. no rockets have ever achieved orbit.There are no satellites..no Moon landing.. no gravity.. This knowledge is what could bring down the entire ruling class and band us together and bring us back to our God. It is the truth. Don’t mock me until you have done the research first. There are thousands of flat earth videos to choose from.. You either want the truth or you don’t! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzJXphSWJqo

      • The Thinning Veil Report

        well said.

      • Mongoose

        That’s what happened to me my friend.

        I went from blind sheep to crazy flat earther after a couple of weeks of research.

    • illi

      Try letting go of the security blanket lies that have enslaved you and the rest of humanity for countless generations. We are being lied to about everything that happens over, and over. So everything must be questioned.

    • The Thinning Veil Report

      thank you to all the open-minded researchers of flat earth that were brave enough to leave comments here.

      the ball earthers have no evidence for their model.

      • RAINSCRYPT

        The burden of proof is upon you and all others who claim the earth is flat, so don’t try to turn the tables.
        YOU are the one who is making baseless assertions. It is up to you to provide evidence as proof for your claim.
        your last statement here is nothing but a deception, and a tired attempt at evading your responsibility of making good on your statements. So far you have not done so.

        You have not even answered the simplest questions. From what I observe here, you are backing a lie with more lies and offering those as your proofs.

        I reject your offers. They are demeaning insults.

        Better yourself. The shadow you cast darkens even the blackest.

        • The Thinning Veil Report

          to use your tricks…….
          “… From what I observe here, you are backing a lie with more lies and offering those as your proofs. ”

          you have just described PERFECTLY the ball earth bs lies and subterfuge.

          thanks!

          • Anonymous

            I’m still waiting..

            Must be one helluva complex answer and proof you’re putting together. Take your time then, Veil.
            Such dedication and sacrifice of time and energy in pursuit of completion of your manifesto extraordinaire is admirable.. and so,

            respectfully, I wait.. and wait.. and wait. This is so exciting.

        • Mongoose

          Tons of proof is offered over and over again and you shills and fools just ignore it.

          The path of the midnight arctic sun disproves the globe model plain and simple.

          No oval, no globe, this should be the end of discussion.

          If the earth were a globe rotating on a tilted axis as we have been taught, then from inside of the arctic circle near the outer edge where the sun is visible 24 hours a day in the summer time we should see the suns path as a clockwise rotating oval, not the up and down that is observed.

          The sun supposedly travels east to west across the sky because of the direction of the earth’s rotation. At night in the arctic circle we would be moving in the opposite direction in relation to the sun, so if we could see the sun at night (which we can from inside the arctic circle) then the sun would appear to be traveling the sky from west to east.

          So what we should see if the earth were a globe is the sun traveling from east to west then slowing and lowering and eventually changing direction to form an oval. This is not what we see. So the globe is debunked.

          Airplanes:

          If the earth were a globe aprox. 25,000 miles in circumference, a plane traveling at 300 mph in a straight forward east west trajectory at the equator would be gaining altitude at a rate of 8” x 300m x 300m = 6000 ft. an hour = 1.14 miles an hour = 100 ft. a minute = 1.67 ft. per second.

          This rate would increase exponentially the further north or south you get away from the equator due to the smaller circumference of the globe earth near the poles when traveling in a strictly east to west direction.

          So unless pilots are constantly adjusting for curvature and pointing the nose slightly downward in order to compensate (which they aren’t because the earth is flat) they would be constantly gaining altitude.

          If we were on a spinning globe then people in north America should be being pulled slightly southward (northward in Australia) by the centrifugal force which would be pulling us outward at a 90 degree angle from the axis of rotation which from our perspective would be slightly south. We would always be a little of balance.

          This force should be easily detected and measured if it existed but it isn’t and it hasn’t because it doesn’t.

          Lunar eclipses sometimes happen when the sun and moon are both visible in the sky, this proves that it is not the earth’s shadow causing the eclipses.

          If we were on a spinning ball orbiting the sun that is orbiting the galactic center that is traveling through space at high speed, (which is not a uniform motion) we would be constantly changing direction, speeding up and slowing down and it would be noticeable.

          Not to mention that the constellations could not have remained the same for thousands of years in that scenario and that the stars closest to us should appear to be passing by faster than the ones that are supposedly billions of light years away just as a nearby tree appears to pass by much quicker then one in the distance when traveling the highway instead of them all appearing to move at the same speed regardless of supposed distance.

          • Knarlydawg

            “So unless pilots are constantly adjusting for curvature and pointing the nose slightly downward in order to compensate (which they aren’t because the earth is flat) they would be constantly gaining altitude.” ……..they aren’t because many pilots rely on auto-pilot to do most of the flying and those flying manually will be making periodic, minor adjustments to maintain relative altitude.

            Auto-pilot maintains altitude via air pressure and/or radar altimeter which auto corrects flight path and altitude therefore following the earth curvature.

          • Anonymous

            shills and fools..

            Dark within the Shadow, ain’t it? Or were you just blinded by the light?

    • Anonymous

      Da ‘Erf is flat. The sun is a huge military flashlight and just 30 miles away. The stars are just pinholes poked through a black curtain. We have never been to the moon. Obammer has time-traveled to Mars. Nibiru is hiding behind the sun since 1972. The moon is just a projection on a big screen. Comet Ison was flown by aliens and is on it’s way back to ‘Erf.

      I LOVE me BIN science in the morning!!!

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