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Flat Earth PSYOP: CIA Black Op Designed to Destroy the Truth Movement

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The Flat Earthers Are Being Sent
Into Every Real Truth Movement
To Disrupt And Destroy Them

 

 

Flat Earthers SYSTEMatically Being Used To Disrupt And Undermine Truth Movements Everywhere

Revisionist Historians for World Peace
Submitted to The Millennium Report

There is an insidious conspiracy at work throughout the entire Internet which seeks to destroy Truth Movements everywhere.  One of its organs of mischief is known as the Flat Earth Society (FES) and its explicit purpose is to take down every single truth-oriented website, blog and/or organization which permits an open comment section at the bottom of their posts and articles.

Here’s how they work:
Agents of the FES often begin by posting rather benign yet factual comments about NASA, which everyone now knows is a rogue agency which can rarely be trusted to tell the truth about particular scientific endeavors and galactic missions. That’s a no-brainer that everyone agrees with—NASA holds onto most of the truth and parcels out only the absolute minimum to the taxpayers who fund their space missions and other assorted projects.

The Flat Earthers then take advantage of this universal hatred of NASA for their spewing so much deception over so many years, and they use it to subtly garner support for their nonsensical Flat Earth Theory (FET).  When the time is right, the Flat Earthers will then start introducing utterly absurd notions about the Solar System and patently false concepts about the Earth’s relationship to the Sun.

They justify their preposterous sophistry and wacky ideas by routinely outing NASA as a serially prevaricating government agency, which they are — and then using their well-known deception as a justification to overturn the entire paradigm of modern astrophysics. Talk about throwing the baby out with the bath water.  There is no astronomical scientific truth that the Flat Earthers have left unassailed.  You name it — gravity, a spherical Earth and other planetary orbs, rotational movement of the planets. planetary revolutions around the Sun — they throw it all out and label it as “NASA lies”.

Once they do that in a very public Internet forum or chat room, website or blog comment section, they begin to stir up a LOT of trouble.  They pre-position sock-puppets in the same forums, blogs, etc, who will, with apparent spontaneity, support their silly and stupid comments about the Flat Earth Theory (FET).  The longer the comment thread, the more opportunity to draw in the unsuspecting into their outlandish web of deceit and deception.

They do this by presenting some entirely new and quite valid hypotheses which do introduce such concepts that are related to the Electric Universe; or that propose that the Solar System is also moving though space in a manner which defies the conventional scientific wisdom. There are many instances where the current scientific paradigm does completely fall down, by the way, and the FEs use these obvious flaws to take down the whole system of modern thought.

By so aggressively assaulting the conventional wisdom which is accepted by the vast majority of people on the planet, they then tar the reputation of the truth movement groups whose websites they have deliberately polluted with their obvious foolishness concerning their FLAT EARTH fantasies.

A Massive CIA Black Operation

Many are now suspicious that these relentless FE initiatives are so organized because they have the backing of those government agencies that do not want the truth (about anything) revealed. The CIA, FBI, DIA, NSA have long employed this signature MO which is determined to kill the messengers of truth anyway they can.  Ruining reputations has always been preferred to outright murder, which they also perpetrate when they deem it absolutely necessary. After all, the primary mandate forThe Company (aka the C.I.A.) is to carry out their covert truth-silencing black operations.

The following comment was left on a major alternative website (BeforeItsNews.com) which clearly delineates some of the major farcical tenets of the Flat Earth Theory.  It’s not really a theory; rather it’s nothing but line of pure BS as the day is long … with a stray  corrected fact thrown in to string the gullible along.

There have been a good number of excellent exposés written which completely deconstruct the real back story to this CIA-sponsored black operation. What follows are some of the previous posts is this regard.

The Flat Earthers Are Being Sent Into Every Real Truth Movement To Disrupt And Destroy Them

FLAT EARTH ‘THEORY’ Demonstrates The Alarming Gullibility Of People Everywhere

Flat Earth Theory Fabricated By TPTB To Distract From Planet X

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Important Note:
The vast majority of Flat Earthers do not even have a clue that they are being used 24/7 to advance a sinister agenda to destroy the various truth movements around the globe.  If they did have this awareness, most would leave the whole enterprise in a heartbeat.  Like all C.I.A. blackops, they are conducted on a strictly need-to-know basis and in a highly compartmentalized fashion.  Just like only the 33 degree Freemason types know anything of the real plots that are afoot in the world, so, too, do those CIA controllers manipulate the Flat Earthers from afar.  All the CIA ever has to do is effectively control one individual who has been completely programmed to execute their agenda.  Others who demonstrate similar vulnerability to the same programming are then chosen to lead the sheep whenever necessary.  The bottom line here is that many Flat Earthers are truly seeking the truth. This segue into Flat Earth crazyland is but detour they must take in order to get real after they become aware that they have become profoundly deceived.  Everyone takes a similar journey in life as they break free from all the deception which has been brought to bear by the ubiquitous and everpresent Global Control Matrix.  (See Global Control Matrix Revealed)

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Conclusion

How easy is it for a pack of Flat Earth jackals to take down an honest truth-seeking website or forum that only looks to uncover the truth.  These folks have scripts crafted for every rejection and every response that they face.  They have been thoroughly brainwashed to understand the Flat Earth Theory as truth, and are mind-controlled to see themselves as modern-day Galileos.

In light of their cohesive organization they have learned how to work in a concerted effort to quickly victimize the unsuspecting.  Their primary weapons are little (and big) lies that NASA has told, as well as some glaring gaps in the current astrophysics paradigm.  It’s true that each successive paradigm has rendered the previous one partially obsolete as the world has evolved from the Newtonian to the Einsteinian to the Quantum to the Electric Universe.

However, that does NOT mean that fire is not hot and does not burn.  These Flat Earthers would have us all believe even that if they could, and much more crazy.  Nevertheless, it’s critical to understand such crazymaking by certified crazymakers is quite purposeful.  For CIA-certified crazymakers such as these always have a covert agenda to execute and specific goals to accomplish. Hence, the challenge for many has been to avoid being caught up in their utterly crazy agenda.  Otherwise, if we get caught off guard, we risk missing the gun-grabbing that can occur in the wake of an Orlando false flag mass shooting and the like. 

Revisionist Historians for World Peace
June 10, 2016

Originally published by The Millennium Report

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    • LifeIs

      Yes, the whole flat earth thing is a sick joke of a propaganda device. But, one must respond to anyone who appears sincere in the belief.

      And it wouldn’t hurt you to think through the arguments and prove your case.

      As for gravity, well, DePalma’s spinning balls and the Tamarack mine experiment should have told you something. The fact that it takes imaginary “dark matter,” or fairies, or something, to hold the galaxies together, should have told you something.

      Well, the galaxies are proof of the electric universe theory. And so is the temperature of the Sun’s corona.

      The theory that Einstein was given credit for is absurd. And Newton’s theory is demonstrably false. Well, consider that the Earth’s gravity, and the Moon’s gravity balance 38,000 kilometers above the Moon. Park your space ship there and the Moon’s gravity won’t pull it, not by a single inch. But, the Moon’s gravity lifts sea water to make tides, 400,000 kilometers away?

      And while the Moon lifts that sea water, only 13,000 kilometers further away, on the side OPPOSITE the Moon, there’s another high tide. Why doesn’t the Moon’s gravity pull that water down?

      Both of those tides are inertia, “centrifugal force,” as the center of mass of the Earth and Moon together is below the surface of the Earth. Newton was wrong, and so is every textbook.

      Well, just ask, where does the energy come from, for masses to accelerate toward each other by gravity?

      And there is a perfectly reasonable theory that our inertia, our speed through space, provides the energy of gravity. And that we interact with our planet and the Sun and other planets through electric charge fields. And that our energy –our inertia, our speed — is flowing from greater to lesser concentration. That’s gravity.

      • Cintus Supremus

        And you see, LifeIs…

        This perfectly reasonable and well-written post of yours will be patently BESMIRCHED by your delving elsewhere into Niburu asininity with aplomb.

        Just promise me that by this time next year, you will no longer factor such decrepit information sources as JESUIT authors and Roman Rite prophecies into your overall conclusions.

        Or, promise nothing. Just do it.

        • LifeIs

          Unfortunately there will be no next year at this time for us. Lúcia Santos wasn’t a Jesuit. Or a prophet. She was a ten year old, who was told about the future. Most of what she was told came true already.

          • Cintus Supremus

            “Lúcia Santos wasn’t a Jesuit.”

            Thanks, LifeIs.

            But Malachi Martin was, though, wasn’t he. Stop feigning obtusiosity, you pretender.

            “Unfortunately there will be no next year at this time for us.”

            Yeah yeah, I heard you the first time, friend. And the time after that. And the time after that. And the time after that.

            It’s like you’re two different people; one a reasonable and well self-educated man with whom we can discuss the important things…

            …and a juvenile super-hoople who lands the occasional icy-fingered chill up the spines of distracted passers-by who perchance looked in your direction and gave you a nod.

            In the words of the immortal Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: UN-F YOURSELF PRIVATE PYLE!!!

            It’s not Cinco De Mayo any more, Life-ee. It’s not even Cinco De Junio.

            It’s after.

            Time keeps on slippin slippin slippin…

            …into the future…

            • Cintus Supremus

              PS — don’t think for one second I don’t know how bad you LUST after destruction of the world according to your timeline…

              …if only to stuff one up the gullet of yours truly,

              Cintus Supremus.

              Bad, bad, bad form old man.

          • LifeIs

            The source of the information, most of which has already come true, was Lúcia. Father Martin only reported it.

            And if you think he was incorrect somehow, about why the Vatican built its Advanced Technology Telescope, perhaps you can share a fact in support of your belief.

            I can’t even imagine the end of the world, that’s how bad it is.

            I am looking forward to not having to engage in conversation with disinformation trolls.

            • Cintus Supremus

              “The source of the information, most of which has already come true…”

              Would you listen to yourself man? Our own ‘Doctor’ Turi plays that very same game. Why don’t you factor his gas into your equation?

              “And if you think he was incorrect somehow, about why the Vatican built its Advanced Technology Telescope, perhaps you can share a fact in support of your belief.”

              Will I be rebutting a dead Jesuit mega-mouth? No, I will not be. But thanks for asking.

              “I am looking forward to not having to engage in conversation with disinformation trolls.”

              Well, LifeIs — you’ve employed nine out of ten idiot tactics of the meat popsicles, why not make it a clean sweep? Accuse your adversary of being a ‘paid government operative’!!!! Bad form.

              If you truly relish the thought of not having to defend your fantasies, then I suggest you stop publishing them where other folks can read them.

              Have a nice day, Life-ee.

            • LifeIs

              Okay you’re not making a lot of sense. Let me help.

              At Fatima in 1917, the children were told some things about THEIR future.

              Including the fact that two of them would die soon. And including information about World War Two.

              Most of what they were told, and which they reported at the time, came true already.

              The part that hasn’t come true yet is the part the Vatican said (in 1960) “will probably remain forever sealed.” That’s the part that made Pope John 23rd faint, when he read it.

              Never mind Malachi Martin. Why do YOU think the Vatican built an Advanced Technology Telescope on Mt. Graham.

              Of course you are a paid government operative. I respond to you only as a response to anyone who accidentally takes you seriously.

            • Cintus Supremus

              “At Fatima in 1917, the children were told some things about THEIR future. Including the fact that two of them would die soon.”

              Well now. Sounds authentic to me!!! No. Not really. It doesn’t. Did you just get here, LifeIs? For an older fella, you really are taken for quite the ride by this Romper Room-style nonsense.

              “Most of what they were told, and which they reported at the time, came true already.”

              I see. Kind of like that Nordstrom-Dumas fella, am I right?

              “The part that hasn’t come true yet is the part the Vatican said (in 1960) “will probably remain forever sealed.” That’s the part that made Pope John 23rd faint, when he read it.”

              I see. Fell flat on his kister, did he? Must have been pretty spooky. Either that, or maybe you shouldn’t believe everything you read in the National Inquirer. This is really the sort of flotsam you’ve constructed your doomsday model around? This Fatima/Martin balderdash? Really?

              “Why do YOU think the Vatican built an Advanced Technology Telescope on Mt. Graham.”

              Asked and answered, but since you persist then please allow me to give you a lesson in reasonable responses to dim-witted questions. LifeIs, I would rather try and touch the moon than to take on the thinking of the Roman Rite. I could offer you ALL KINDS of irrelevant speculation for why the Roman Rite supposedly erected a super telescope in Arizona. I haven’t seen it, so I’m not even sure it exists. But let’s say it exists. Who the hell knows what they’re up to? You know who doesn’t know, LifeIs? You don’t know. And I don’t know. That’s who. It is foolish of you, in the extreme, to believe anything that comes out of their camp. In the extreme, LifeIs.

              “Of course you are a paid government operative. I respond to you only as a response to anyone who accidentally takes you seriously.”

              This gives me the red ass. This constant assertion that I should be getting paid by our goobermint for doing what I do for free. I mean, really. Do you think they would give me retro-active pay if I apply now and show them the BIN archives with my work going back seven years? I think I’ve been cheated.

              Lots of folks used to take you seriously, LifeIs. Myself included. That you’ve bought into such an obvious garden-variety ruse comes actually as something of a surprise. I guess that’s what we get for thinking too highly of mankind in the first place.

              Anything else?

            • LifeIs

              You’re not convinced that the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope exists ?

              It is part of the Mt. Graham International Observatory. The VATT and the Heinrich Hertz Submillimeter Telescope have been there since 1993.

              The Large Binocular Telescope began operating in 2004.

              Submillimeter is near-infrared. The “LUCIFER” infrared instruments began operating in 2010 and 2011.

              Cintus Supremus I see a lot of deflection and no facts from you.

            • Cintus Supremus

              “You’re not convinced that the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope exists?”

              I’m tired of repeating myself, LifeIs.

              “The Large Binocular Telescope began operating in 2004.”

              Yes. Very well. Let’s say it exists.

              “Submillimeter… infrared… LUCIFER… 2010 and 2011…”

              Waitress!! CHECK PLEASE!!!

              “Cintus Supremus I see a lot of deflection and no facts from you.”

              Facts? You? The fella who wants me to put my head between my cheeks and kiss my ass goodbye on account of an impending rogue planet whose arrival is perhaps indicated by deceased child prophets and a renegade Jesuit Priest, not to mention a Catholic Vicar who hit the deck after he read a top-secret Catholic document written by top secret Catholic visionaries, the contents of which have NEVER been made fully public…

              …you…

              …are asking me for facts?

              FACT: It’s time for you to hang it up, Life-ee.

              FACT: You are wasting my time and your life.

              FACT: You need to rewind, internally, and you need to climb a tall mountain, go camp by an isolated lake, or make your sally deep into the desert.

              FACT: Your obstinate all-in, in the face of empty pockets and zero chips on the table, is not endearing. Neither is it amusing.

              Back away from the keyboard, man.

              Cease and desist.

              Find something else to do.

              You used to be relevant.

              But now, at a website which traffics in fear and loathing, you are become superfluous.

            • Cintus Supremus

              LifeIs,

              My previous post was way meaner than I meant it to be.

              Having just re-read it, I must apologize.

              I do get carried away with myself at times, but that was just over-the-top nasty. And on such a personal level.

              Mea culpa, old man.

          • Nanar

            Hey Cintus !

            I also wan’t to get paid. Where do I apply ?

            To Lifels:
            Why the Vatican built and advanced telescope :
            Many monks, priests and others are into astrophysics, astronomy and so on.
            so maybe, they build it to do some astrophysics…I would say…

            Did you know Galileo’s research was funded by the Vatican ? And on the contrary of what everybody believes, Galileo was not condemned because of the heliocentric topic (Vatican already know what they were financing and what conclusion he wanted to reach), but more for bashing down Church itself in his research papers. Yes yes, true story. quite gutsy to do so during inquisitorial times.

            Now, concerning the end of the world : nobody knows when and how. and the Apocalypse does not speak about the end of the world but the end of times. That’s is something different.

            In any case, predictions only concerns those who believe them. A bit like a politician’s promise. :grin:

      • sitrep

        Regardless of the flat earth destraction theory, there is something big going on now.

        Internet SitRep:
        There is mass amounts of chatter, yes Viral chatter across the Internet.
        The change is now happening on an exponential scale.

        Search/Think The Mandela effect, Quantum Computer “The beast” Glitch, Paradox.

        The News outlets speak of a cyber war, do you actually, know what it is?
        Have you listened to the Internet chatter,? . It is not Cyber at all it is The Quantum Computer Dimensional wars taking place (QCD).

        Some News outlets, and youtube vids further indicate, the CERN Scientist Have already opened/merged dimensions using Artificial Intelligence to build upon itself, learning as it works. Yes, by using powerful inverted microwave beams to create a negative in time/space, they now have more control in the Past,Present, Future, and Time in itself.

        Very viral Internet chatter indicates, they have already changed past events, and it is now effecting the present, and future outcomes, on a global scale.
        This is causing huge ripple effects across the globe, across dimensions.
        Now think Cyber Wars on a quantum scale, it is here.
        Most Every Government have their Black Ops activated to get their hand on this technology.

        Have you noticed any strange ripple effects? Remember the Movie The Time Tunnel. They constantly had to travel in time to fix mistakes, ripple effects, some paradox.
        This is no longer Science fiction.

        As other youtube vids point out, like over night not naming names, certain groups seemed to have formed overnight, with only a few questioning the facts.
        The Vid further explains the quantum computer is used to seed the past time-line to make direct changes in the present/future time limes, time in itself.

        The scary part is the people doing this stuff have no idea of the outcome, the ripple, and paradox effects they are causing, or do they?

        Now back to the Cyber wars that the media outlets speak of. With Government Black Ops out to steal this technology they will be using it to overthrow other governments, and will be a full dimensional war, past present, future, and time.
        Chaos will be everyplace.
        Many Quantum Forum Discussion groups have scientific proof that they have already penetrated the Veil, and opened Pandora’s box.
        They have no way of knowing what entities have crossed over into our dimension, or of the ripple effects they have unleashed.
        Hang on for a ride, because the effects are now on an exponential level

      • Shaun

        Yep..all those poor people on the Southern Hemisphere are upside-down and in constant need of medical care from one big head-rush…lmao!!! hahahaha

    • DeadlyHound

      You must be totally retarted.

      CIA psyop?

      Flat Earth has been around before the globe ever existed.

      People waking to the truth is not a conspiracy. The globe is more likely to be the conspiracy.

      When they film a HD video that is far away from the Earth and they actually move around the camera shownig a sphere then I will believe that the Earth is a globe and not a plane.

      • lucid_ity

        CIA psyop and/or mentally challenged followers.

        What I don’t get is WHAT are you after? Even if it could be proven that the earth is flat (which it can’t, because it isn’t) then what do you want people to do?

        If your goal is to wake people up to the fact that much of what we’re told is lies (which IS the truth), then there are far easier ways to do this. There is plenty of actual evidence for real coverups and conspiracies.

        So I repeat: CIA psyop and/or mentally challenged followers. Which one are you?

        • Cintus Supremus

          It’s actually more nuanced than you imagine, Lucid.

          The intel network plays its games of social engineering and degradation of information.

          The colloquial term we’re all familiar with is ‘dumbing-down.’

          This flat earth nonsense is merely the engineers testing their work.

          They test.

          We respond.

          They laugh.

          At all of us.

          The soft-heads for biting.

          You, me and the others for wasting our time actually confronting such idiocracy.

          And there you have it.

        • Mongoose

          I can’t prove the earth is flat but I can debunk the globe.

          The path of the midnight arctic sun disproves the globe.

          If the earth were a globe rotating on a tilted axis as we have been taught, then from inside of the arctic circle near the outer edge where the sun is visible 24 hours a day in the summer time we should see the suns path as a clockwise rotating oval, not the up and down that is observed.

          The sun supposedly travels east to west across the sky because of the direction of the earth’s rotation. At night in the arctic circle we would be moving in the opposite direction in relation to the sun, so if we could see the sun at night (which we can from inside the arctic circle) then the sun would appear to be traveling the sky from west to east.

          So what we should see if the earth were a globe is the sun traveling from east to west then slowing and lowering and eventually changing direction to form an oval. This is not what we see. So the globe is debunked.

      • The Thinning Veil Report

        NO MATTER WHAT THEORIES YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE ORIGINS OF THIS FLAT EARTH RENAISSANCE, IT IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO DETERMINE THE DAMN SHAPE.

        THERE SHOULD BE NO FLAT AREAS LIKE THE ENORMOUS BOLIVIAN SALT FLATS IF WE INDEED LIVE ON A SPHERE.

        IT IS COMMON SENSE, ALL THE FLAT EARTH PROOF IS VERIFIABLE AND REPRODUCIBLE. UNLIKE BALL EVIDENCE.

        ZETETICISM.

        • deano

          SHOUTING AT US wont make it any more believable…….

          ZIEG HEIL FASCI + SS (Sancta Sedes)…….das Erdeball the 1st “Globe” made ?

        • Real Expert

          So why can’t a globe have a flat place on it Veil? So freaking what! It also has
          huge mountains, and mile deep divets in it too.. Grand Canyon, and Rocky
          Mountains, why on earth could it not have a flat place on it? Just because it
          has a spot with a flat place, does not mean the whole thing happens to be
          flat just because there is one or two very flat plains on it.. Ever been to
          Kansas? It’s pretty flat, but that doesn’t mean the whole earth is flat.
          Do you then judge the whole earth by the state of Kansas then? Or in
          your case your salt flat spot? That is just about as retarded of an excuse
          as there could possibly be! So, I cook a pancake and it is kind of poofing
          out and rounded on top, that means the whole thing is round then by
          your logic (or lack thereof)? Please tell me you really aren’t that stupid please.

          • The Thinning Veil Report

            ANON,

            IT IS NOT JUST ONE FLAT SPOT. MOST OF EARTH IS FLAT, MEASURABLY FLAT.
            YES, THERE ARE MOUNTAINS AND VALLEYS. OF COURSE THERE ARE.
            FLAT EARTH DOES NOT MEAN ALL OF IT IS A BOWLING ALLEY, BUT WHEN THERE ARE COUNTLESS, HUGE, FLAT AREAS, WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?

            TAKE WATER, FOR EXAMPLE. WATER ALWAYS FINDS IT’S LEVEL, RIGHT? YOU KNOW THIS, EVERYONE KNOWS THIS…..

            SO WHY, LOOKING FROM ONE SHORE TO AN OPPOSING SHORE 50 MILES AWAY, CAN THE ENTIRE SKYLINE BE SEEN?

            ACCORDING TO THE ‘SCIENTIST’S’ OWN DATA, THE FORMULATION TO DETERMINE CURVATURE IS 8 INCHES PER MILE SQUARED.

            THAT OPPOSING SHORELINE SHOULD BE BEHIND A MONSTROUS WALL OF WATER, ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN CALCULATIONS!!!!!!!!

            PLEASE DO SOME RESEARCH ON YOUR OWN INSTEAD OF ASKING ME HERE IN COMMENTS. I’M NOT THAT FAST AN ALL-CAPS TYPER.

            • Cintus Supremus

              Meatmasher squared,

              (That’s not a bad screen name now, is it? MM2!!!)

              Please to stop with the all-caps ridiculousness. It is difficult enough reading what you post as it is. How can we be expected to sift through your seepage without uncrossed eyes, reply to you in comprehensible language, and keep this conversation going…

              …if you insist on making everything you write less and less readable as time progresses?

              Mercy sir!!! Please to disengage CAPS LOCK!!!

            • The Clucker

              “PLEASE DO SOME RESEARCH ON YOUR OWN INSTEAD OF ASKING ME HERE IN COMMENTS.”

              That first sentence was a huge cop-out to keep you from having to defend yourself with your own words.

              Secondly, ugh… “I’M NOT THAT FAST AN ALL-CAPS TYPER.”

              I’ll ignore the grammatical errors in that sentence and just ask you… how does typing in all caps make one a slower typist? You get to ignore the fact that you have to capitalize letters at the beginning of sentences, as well as proper nouns whilst typing in all caps.

            • Mongoose

              Shills don’t research, they troll the forums posting the same stupid questions and anecdotes over and over while ignoring all of the evidence that opposes the position that they push either for money or pride.

            • Neo

              Learn a truth from the humble apple, if you can…

      • Knarlydawg

        For a long time I refused to waste my time investigating this seemingly ridiculous subject, then about a year ago I decided to watch a couple videos supporting the flat earth perspective and found some intriguing challenges to the established mindset we have been force fed all our lives. I have been looking for conclusive data to satisfy my own desire for the bottom-line truth on this subject and have finally settled in with the data found in the below sources (as well as others) and information from articles like this one to conclude that; we are living on a globe or spherical body of some form (that we still don’t have full understanding of), and this subject (flat earth debate) is being used to engineer division within various groups that are perceived to be a threat to the Luciferian Zionist PTB [the Luci-zios].

        We need to continue to expose the weapons and strategies being used against us and continue to expose the core perpetrators.

        The Millennium Report, The Land Destroyer Report, Jim Stone, SOTN, SOTT, NEO and many other great web sites provide excellent information to satisfy the hunger for truth.

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        https://youtu.be/Vz4mEq2bX_o

        https://youtu.be/lx3vfhWSS_Q

        http://www.wired.com/2011/06/how-to-estimate-the-radius-of-the-earth-with-a-lake/

        http://geodesy.unr.edu/

        http://www.gim-international.com/content/article/what-is-geodesy

        http://www.gim-international.com/content/article/what-is-geodesy

        http://puetzfeld.org/relgeo2016.html

        http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/16749847

        http://geographiclib.sourceforge.net/html/GeodSolve.1.html

        https://njgin.state.nj.us/oit/gis/NJ_NJGINExplorer/docs/Kozlowski_SPCS_&_GIS.PDF

        More vids to examine:

        https://youtu.be/IyJyb3e2Uto

        https://youtu.be/IyJyb3e2Uto

        https://youtu.be/IyJyb3e2Uto

        https://youtu.be/9pXRyp4w-g0

        • Knarlydawg

          Sorry……..don’t know why the videos under “More vids to examine:” showed up in triplicate…..it wasn’t intentional.

    • Anonymous

      Hail Hail the warrior spirit.

      • Cintus Supremus

        Which, being interpreted means:

        Guntherian!!! Read the above article. For in it, you are quoted with authority!!!

        HAIL HAIL!!!

        • Anonymous

          Beefiest!

          brings a tear to the eye, don’t it? nice Hailstorm!

    • Jango

      Here is why this article is Totally Wrong!. There are two major explanations for the origin of life and the universe. One is the Biblical explanation which was believed for thousands of years. The other is the Big Bang which was believed for only a few hundred years. These two views are totally opposite and cannot be integrated. Either the sun revolves around the earth, or the earth revolves around the sun. So which earth do we live on? Neither has been proven. Do we live on a flat, stationary earth with a dome covering which is the description from the Bible, or do we live on a round spinning ball which is the Scientific explanation. What is happening over the past few years and gaining momentum is that many people using simple math and science are questioning the possibility of us being able to live on a round spinning ball as compared to living on a flat stationary earth. And they have very valid reasons for believing this as the math simply does not work on a round spinning ball. Also, many are upset that this Big Bang Theory (and it is only theory, not fact) was taught to all of us as Fact without any alternative options available for comparison. So anyone who has gone to school over the last 60 years or so was taught this same Big Bang theory as fact and this is what they believe. This has been reinforced ever since by NASA and other agencies. But now a new movement of truth seekers has emerged saying “Prove it”. Here is the simplist way to do so: Build a working model of each and let’s see which world we live on. Building a flat, stationary earth is quite easy, but putting water on a round spinning globe would be impossible, unless someone can show us how it can be done. This would settle the argument…..wouldn’t it? So go ahead all you round spinning ball believers, build a working model and show the world that this is really how it works. If you want to understand more about the 2 Universe Explanations, find it here. ItsHisStory.com/globe.

      • Anonymous

        Uhhhh…. Hah!

        Jango, if I may, a bit of editing..

        “Here’s why this comment is Totally Wrong!”

        No other changes necessary. good to go.

        • The Clucker

          :lol: Agreed Mr. RAIN. Of all the psy-ops out there the flat earth thing is without a doubt one of the more obvious ones. To believe it literally requires a person to throw common sense out the window.

          Typical flat earther: “I have been lied to about some things so I certainly must have been lied to about EVERY SINGLE FRIGGIN’ THING ON THE PLANET! Therefore, the moon is just a big nightlight and the sun is just a big spotlight circling the Earth.”

          “Round Earther” (regular person): What about satellites? That people can see with telescopes as well as the naked eye…

          Flat Earther: FAKE!

          Person without mental illness: What about gravity?

          Flat Earther: FAKE!

          Non-retard: What about pictures of the Earth from space?

          Flat Earther: FAKE! ALL OF THEM!!! (Frothing at the mouth behind keyboard)

          Non-retard: Then explain the Coriolis Effect.

          Flat Earther: FAKE!

          This is the typical conversation that goes on in every one of these flat earth articles. Why is it that Round Earth theory is supported by what is already known, and for Flat Earth theory to work everything we know must be explained away for the theory to work? They say anything and everything supporting the Earth being spherical is fake. Impossible.

          Occam’s Razor.

          • The Thinning Veil Report

            SO I HAVE DEDUCED THAT YOU, CLUCKER, RAIN, CINTUS, BEEF SUPREME, LUCIDITY ARE ALL THE SAME DOOFUS.

            CINTUS ADMITS AS MUCH.

            ASK HIM/HER HOW MANY HANDLES THEY HAVE ON THIS SITE.

            • The Clucker

              So instead of addressing my points, you make erroneous accusations. Cintus and BEEF are the same, which he has already told you. He readily told you that and you know it. If you’d like I could dig up a link. The rest of us are all different people and you know it.

              You said: “SO I HAVE DEDUCED THAT YOU, CLUCKER, RAIN, CINTUS, BEEF SUPREME, LUCIDITY ARE ALL THE SAME DOOFUS.

              CINTUS ADMITS AS MUCH.”

              Now you’ve trapped yourself in a lie and you know it. Show me where Cintus admits he is all of those people, otherwise you are a liar. I know this never happened and so do you.

              You know that thing I made fun of, ya know…

              with the flat Earthers and all, frothing at the mouth in anger like little children that can’t hold back their tempers?

              You just did it. Your caps lock key is to the right side of the keyboard, in case it were just an accident on your part. (Or you’re a crybaby :cry: )

              Show some proof or run like the Sally you are. (which is obviously your only option.)

              I guess proof means nothing to you, because you believe the Earth is flat, so wtf would the point be in asking you for that. Yeah. That’s right. You have become the little girl who cried wolf one too many times to warrant any serious concern.

              Carry on with trying to convince people of things you can’t prove. That gets people nowhere on this website. You will learn that sooner than later. My guess is you’ve already changed your screen name a few times, Agent 6.

            • Hi NSA, kiss my artichoke

              TTVR…You seem to be losing it, your mind that is.
              Who the hell says ‘Doofus’ these days?

            • The Clucker

              HI NSA, kiss my artichoke,

              I think this “Thinning Veil” feller used to be called “People Power.” Just a guess, but you know what I’m talking about. Every time People Power/Expose the Truth disappears with his spamming of the boards some sort of “valiant hero” seems to appear to take up his cause…. coincidentally.

              How does it feel to be accused, Thin Veil? The only differenct is that my accusation seems much more valid than your erroneous one.

            • Mongoose

              When shills play fair, they lose badly.

              When they cheat and use multiple accounts so that they can agree with themselves they look crazy while they lose badly.

      • Nanar

        @Jango:
        it’s not because we believed something for a long time that it makes it true. Chinese emperors believes for hundreds of year that by taking mercury, they would live forever. Their premature deaths kind of rendered that mot.
        You and I do not have the same bible. Which version are referring to ?
        Big bang is a theory, but it’s kind of the best we have so far. In truth we have no idea, just educated guess. New theories have emerged from string theories concepts indicating that the universe has always been or is much much older than we think.

        Flat stationary earth :?:
        when there is no movement there is no life. Even philosophers of old made that conclusion very early.
        nothing in this world is stationary.
        For your water experience, you need a low of zero gravity zone. There is no bottom or up in space. Just the center of a mass.

        Now, the earth has tectonic plates. Some getting farther from each other and some getting closer.
        How can that be possible on a flat earth ?

        For the sake of argument, “easy to build a flat earth” : really ? Even if the earth was flat, building such a complex bio dome would need some serious engineering. Not withstanding that would imply to make the entire universe revolve around flat earth. I don’t call that easy.

        [QUOTE]Math do not work on a round spinning ball[UNQUOTE]
        :!: show me the math or is it your example of shooting bullets again ? I debunked that several times already. Your “math” uses different referential !!! It doesn’t work like that ! When a car is moving and that you are in this car, even if you yourself don’t move, you are still traveling.

        You’re the type of guy that when he sees somebody chocking, you exorcise instead of doing a Heimlich maneuver.
        One saves, the other kills. I let you guess which one.

    • jtricer1973

      Well, I am looking in to the flat earth myself. One thing I will say is that there is very evidently a well orchestrated and concerted effort online to squash the flat earth debate. They are all over youtube and any comment remotely positive about a flat earth video brings them down on you quickly! Fact is, nothing that I see can proves the globe theory! They are very very scared and worried about the flat earth movement which to my mind lends it even more credibility.

      • The Clucker

        In other words, “The idea has opposition, so it must be right.”

        Ya gots any idea how silly of an argument that is? That would be like me saying “I get opposition from my wife when I wizz all over the toilet seat so it must be OK to do.”

        I’ll let her know you said it was cool, and when I do it and she gets upset I’ll have only you to blame… right?

        • jtricer1973

          I didn’t say the idea has opposition so it must be right, you did. The point I was making is that the opposition to the idea seems to me not to be a proportionate response. Are you some scientist? Can you prove the earth is a sphere and that space exists? No you can’t! You can only parrot what you’ve been taught since birth, by the same people that tell us we evolved from monkeys! You ever stop to think just how silly that is? And once again, a completely dreamed up unproven theory by God haters!

          • The Thinning Veil Report

            JTRICER1973,

            WELL SAID. YES, I AM PASSIONATELY TYPING. IN CAPS. CALL THE COPS, DEANO, CLINTUS, LUCIDITY, CLUCKER. WHICH WILL BE ONE PHONE CALL AS YOU ARE ALL THE SAME GUY.

            YOUR MENTAL ILLNESS IS QUITE SAD.

            TALK ABOUT MAJOR OPPOSITION! THIS GUY CREATED 20 HANDLES TO MAKE FUN OF FLAT EARTH. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YA?

            BAHAHAHAHAHA!

          • The Clucker

            jtricer1973,

            You said: “I didn’t say the idea has opposition so it must be right, you did.”

            Well, let me go to the comment you made before that.

            Here it is: “One thing I will say is that there is very evidently a well orchestrated and concerted effort online to squash the flat earth debate. They are all over youtube and any comment remotely positive about a flat earth video brings them down on you quickly! Fact is, nothing that I see can proves the globe theory! They are very very scared and worried about the flat earth movement which to my mind lends it even more credibility.”

            If you read your first comment again, you will understand that you did in fact imply that the idea of flat Earth has validity because there is opposition to it.

            Don’t try to dance around your words. You and I both know what you meant. You only implied it instead of outright coming out and saying it because you know the score.

            “Can you prove the earth is a sphere and that space exists?”

            Try looking at the satellites in space as they go by. Also, the many planets you can see with a telescope. That should be an obvious indicator to anyone that space exists. The evidence for Earth being a sphere is very abundant. Look at the shadow on the moon during a lunar eclipse, genius. Also, the Coriolis Effect.

            You’re only looking in one direction to suit your purpose.

            “And once again, a completely dreamed up unproven theory by God haters!”

            I’m hardcore Bible, son. I don’t need to believe the Earth is a different shape to reaffirm my faith. Apparently it’s a lynchpin for you.

            • The Thinning Veil Report

              IF A PLANE IS AN ANT AT A FEW MILES UP, HOW DO YOU THINK YOU CAN SEE THE ISS OR SATELLITES, SMALLER, AT 100 MILES?

              BECAUSE SOMEONE TOLD YOU THAT WAS THE ISS? TOLD YOU IT WAS A SATELLITE?

              LEMMING.

            • The Clucker

              Sorry, Thinning Veil, but your first sentence reads as if written by an idiot and I cannot figure out what you’re trying to say. Try again, but with proper English. No need to turn the caps lock key off though. I know we’re past that point.

              As for your second sentence, you can LITERALLY SEE the satellites go by at night. Anyone can. Unless they’re blind.

              What do you think they are? Shooting stars that consistently move in a circular orbit around a flat Earth? Bah.

              Try again, only come back next time with proof that there is no satellites, then I will pay attention. Without that you’re drowning in the dark.

            • The Clucker

              Thinning Veil,

              I just re-read that sentence thinking I may have made a mistake but it actually makes way less sense than I thought it did. You can do better than that.

      • Jango

        You are right. The reason they are shaking in their boots and trying to backpedal as fast as they can is because they are soon to be caught in the biggest lie that the flat earth has ever seen. I have unofficial info that there are currently about 200 cosmologists and scientists that believe in the flat earth and they will soon be coming forth with that. Can you imagine how much chaos this would produce in the world if it was disclosed that they deliberately LIED about it and then covered it up for all these years!!! How would you like to face this kind of exposure…..

        • jtricer1973

          What better way to hide God the creator from us! I’m done with the devils lies!!! I’m looking for Truth and I don’t care if that truth has us living on a sphere or a flat earth, as long as it’s the Truth!!

      • 2QIK4U

        Quite the opposite. People are sick of hearing the same repeated shill crap, it really does give your common sense a migraine of it’s own. That’s why. If you see crap on tv your gonna change channels and if you could tell the tv it’s full of crap, you would. Same goes for the dead 15 century flathead thinking on you tube and the net. :smile:

        • Real Expert

          Ah, 2quik, it keeps getting worse and worse with them, no matter what.
          Bunch of kids, or the mental equivalent of such, holding their hands over
          their ears, and closing their eyes to reality. I think we’d have better luck
          with teaching our pets brain surgery than teaching these idiots what the
          shape of the earth is. But their movement is really gaining lots of steam.
          It just “wows” me how easily people are swayed into believing this crap.
          I think the author is so correct in his points on this article. One thing
          for sure, we could fly them up above the planet, show it to them,
          and they wouldn’t believe their own lying eyes! They truly are beyond
          hope, or at least I have come to conclude.. It’s worth a good laugh
          reading their latest convincing arguments though. Pretty funny stuff!

      • Mongoose

        Flat earth is the most pa trolled topic on the internet by far. They really don’t want this coming out. They have the shills working overtime.

        • Nanar

          Questions like that :
          1- what do the globe dweller get from lying about the shape of their world ?
          2- What god would be so limited as to create such a small creation ?

    • Godzilla

      The flat earth nonsense serves to distract from the hollow earth theory and discredit it. Anyone that understands how day and night and the four seasons are achieved, plus travelling in a straight line long enough will put you over the target again KNOWS the earth has to be a sphere. The tricky part is not knowing the planet is hollow with entrances near the poles.

      Its like the people that claim we never went to the moon whenever people want to discuss what was found there and picked up. At least that is plausible, although I don’t believe it.

      Or the people claiming hollograms were used on 9-11 rather than remote controlled military aircraft.

      The best way to hide the truth is to both provide the official explanation and the full retard conspiracy version, thus everyone stays with the official explanation. Everything in between is silenced.

      • The Thinning Veil Report

        I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU THAT THE EARTH IS HOLLOW, BUT AS YOU HAVE SAID, IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ONE OR THE OTHER. WE KNOW THAT IT’S NOT A SPINNING DAMN BALL BUT IT VERY WELL MAY BE A FLAT AND HOLLOW REALM.

        MANY FLAT EARTHERS SUBSCRIBE TO THIS IDEA.

        I THINK THERE WERE HOLOGRAMS ON 911 AS CAN BE SEEN IN THE GLITCHES AS THE PLANES ARE JUST ABOUT TO HIT. MAYBE IT WAS BOTH! DRONES WITH PROJECTED HOLOGRAMS.

        AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME, WE CAN’T REALLY IN GOOD CONSCIENCE RULE OUT MUCH.

        THE MOON IS TRANSPARENT AND NOT TERRA FIRMA, SO I DOUBT THAT ANYONE COULD ‘LAND’ ON IT. IF WE COULD ACCESS THE MOON, WE WOULD HAVE BUILT THINGS THERE LONG AGO. THE MOON IS BEYOND THE THUNDERDOME, BABY.

        THEY ADMIT THE VANALLEN BELTS WOULD KILL ANYONE THAT PASSED THROUGH. THERE ARE VIDS OF NASA PEOPLE ADMITTING THIS. THEY SAY THAT MAYBE ‘SOMEDAY’ THEY CAN LEAVE A LOW EARTH ORBIT, WHICH I THINK IS ALSO A BUNCH OF HOOEY.

        • The Thinning Veil Report

          FOR ALL THE NAYSAYERS TO THE PROSPECT THAT WE HAVE ALL BEEN LIED TO ABOUT LIVING ON A MERRY GO ROUND PLEASE CLICK MY HANDLE AND WATCH SOME STUFF.

          I HAVE HAD THE SAME CONVERSATIONS FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW, PROBABLY WITH THE SAME PEOPLE USING DIFFERENT SCREEN NAMES, AND AM GETTING TIRED OF RERERERERERERE-EXPLAINING.

          JUST CLICK.

          I AM NOT A FEATURED POSTER. I DO NOT GET PAID FOR THIS.
          I DO IT BECAUSE I CARE ABOUT ALL YOU MOFOS.
          EVEN THE ONES WHO CAN’T SEE. ESPECIALLY THE ONES WHO CAN’T SEE.

          YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND YOU ARE SCARED. I WAS TOO, BUT I GOT OVER IT AND REALIZED THAT I HAD NEVER FELT SO FREE AND RELEVANT AND STRONG.

          WE ARE NOT AN ACCIDENT.

          WE ARE NOT INSIGNIFICANT.

          WE MATTER, ALL OF US.

          SO, GO LOOK MOFOS, AT SOME COOL VIDS ABOUT FLAT EARTH AND MORE.

          PEACE!

          ALL CAPS PEACE, BEEATCHES.

          • The Clucker

            I have looked into BOTH sides of the flat Earth argument and have come to a different conclusion that doesn’t involve a barrage of crappy youtube videos and pseudoscience that cannot be proven.

            “MOFOS” … “BEEATCHES” …

            I had a feeling you were under 20.

    • jtricer1973

      The reason the flat earth theory is growing so rapidly is that on real examination, the globe theory has serious serious problems! One big one is that it almost entirely floats or sinks with Nasa and you’ve all but admitted in your article that they are not to be trusted! All the rest of the globe theory appears to me to be completely unproven pseudo-science.

    • my2pesos

      Face Earth ~ Farce Hate
      .
      .
      Stephen Hawking or someone with ‘like status’ could host a science-challenge……(Debate)
      .
      .
      Earth Face ~ Ear ‘fact’ He
      .
      Ear Dish ~ Daesh IR
      .
      Ear ‘a’ Dish ~ Hades Air
      .
      .
      Hades ~ Shade ~ Heads ~ Daesh

    • 2QIK4U

      This is the most honest article i have read by you and this farcical bible fairy tale believing Onion site. Congratulations :smile:

    • TuffENuff

      I actually started to believe FET was a psy-op, until I read this post in The Millennium Report because TMR is a known psy-op site. This makes my head turn into a pretzel.

      • LifeIs

        Well, it is a psy-op. Don’t waste your time trying to sort out the convolutions. FET came with professionally made videos. And the sophistry was no accident. It’s a psy op.

      • Mongoose

        All of the most popular contributors and persistent commenters on this site are disinfo shills. It is par for the course on the internet though. After a while they stick out like a sore thumb.

    • desertspeaks

      unless you have personally been in space to view the earth in it’s entirety, everything you believe you know is hearsay of hearsay,. You have no first hand knowledge. All you do is regurgitate what you’ve been programmed to propagate. Your thoughts, feelings, beliefs are not proof of anything. You have no proof of anything you say.

      you don’t know, you can’t know!

      • Mongoose

        I know that they are trying to say words but all I can hear is baaah baaah baaah, or Polly want a cracker.

    • mastwow

      don’t be delusional.
      flat earth is the truth since Genesis 1.

    • Tazika

      I am sad to see that my favourite place for seeking the truth and building the better world Beforeitsnews posted the text of pure rage & fury, filled with hate and all possible words of underestimation, with a huge insult from the title on. How could this rampage appear here?

      Text is not even signed (Revisionist Historians FOR WORLD PEACE-but HATERS cannot bring peace nowhere!) so author can not be called out to explain his accusations.

      I see it spins around NET and I can’t understand why admins of respectful pages are reposting it. Author(s?) claim from the title on that flat-earthers are CIA psy-ops and nowhere gives any proof for it. If the author has any info about one single person or one single connection between flat-earthers and CIA he would surely write about it, therefore he doesn’t have any, yet he put this claim in the title.

      I am deeply dissapointed in Beforeisnews. Although it distances itself from every author’s presented assuredness, they could see that accusation in the title is not backed up by evidence, and count bad words that don’t support the story but are pure profanities.

    • truthseeker4809

      Sounds like the tactic of subversion by infiltration. But for those who can be fooled, let them be fooled.
      Dark matter problem has already been solved by the discovery of the legitimacy of dipole gravity in general relativity. It is already an old story. The Caltech group of general relativity herded by Kip Thorne has been deliberately hiding this discovery made by South Korean physicist Dr. Jeong. He has recently published the book “Physics of the New Millennium, Birth of the New Paradigm” available at Amazon.com. The book explains them all. It is sickening that the main stream media is not covering this amazing story at all. The truth doesn’t matter unless it is advertised at the roof top with a megaphone.

    • Anonymous

      Flat earth is a NWO ploy to make christians look like idiots and easy targets for persecution. Did you know that there is a flat earth card in the Illuminati card game?

    • 2QIK4U

      Can someone staple this to THE THIINING VEIL’s Forehead? :idea:

    • krew09

      The FES is a psy-op,to dupe poorly researched people like yourself….The FES does not represent,in any way, the truth about the universe,the earth,ect.

    • coveredlikeatent

      Aren’t you the psyop.

    • truthseeker4809

      It goes like this. The truth movement heralded by BIN and others is inundated with stupid and retarded proponents of the flat earth theory. So there is nothing to be trusted in BIN and any of those sites. That’s the way how the black op works. Otherwise, they wouldn’t spend money on such a stupid campaign. It’s like paid actors at the false flag operation. Crying actors, fake injured body carrying stooges etc etc.
      People do anything if they are convinced they can be paid for it. It is not even a secret anymore.

      • Mongoose

        So stupid and retarded people are have inundated some so called truth movement that BIN and others are heralding and are performing a black ops and are spending money on the stupid campaign.

        Interesting theory.

        • Mongoose

          Truth on BIN comes in small doses, usually mixed with a bunch of crazy speculation, a religious spin and outright made up lies to add a little sensationalism.

    • SkareCro

      CIA Black Op Designed to Destroy the Truth Movement

      lol, flat earth has been around WAY longer than the CIA and will be around WAY after the CIA. Why? Because it’s flat.

      The psyop is getting you to think it’s a psyop.

      Game over ballers.

    • Anonymous

      As in every single serious topic, whether from Anthropology, Archaeology, Astronomy, Biology . . . Geography, Nibiru, etc.,l there is a Leadership AGENDA ABOUT WHAT CAN BE KNOWN. Relating to the rest of the Universe, mind-to-mind, is verboten, and realizing inter-dimensional connections with the Past–these must be suppressed for the sake of Statist PC-control issues.

      The current configuration of the Earth, to my mind after some study, is as a sherd of a sphere that imploded 550 million years ago, a toroidal donut shape, with interior compartments that circulate water and heat, covered like a pot by a physical “firmament,” with water on the outside. We have a local sun and Moon in our atmosphere, both within hundreds of miles of the surface of our world. You wanna believe differently, go for it.

      However, the article stating: “When the time is right, the Flat Earthers will then start introducing utterly absurd notions about the Solar System and patently false concepts about the Earth’s relationship to the Sun.” is true; and we FLATTER Earthers are already aware of the guys going over the top and around the bend with their silly cosmologies that pursue ignorance the way Islam pursues ignorance, by dogma.

      On the whole, this article sounds like dysinfo to me, because it comes from the epistemology that says, we cannot believe our senses, we must believe NASA-configured graphics and fables which deny observable facts and human experience, as the 1969 moon landing, the 1986 Challenger “disaster,” and the ISS series, all of which are exposed hoaxes

      You guys who wish to believe in Big Bang, Heliocentricity, Relativity and Spinning Globe earth are free to hold to your theories; but a lot of us who have BScience degrees no longer swallow Scientism’s P-C DOGMAS. We realize, hard proof is hard to come by because NASA is a Disney subsidiary, so there’s not a lot we can trumpet as proof of anything; but not being able to prove FACTS is a noticeable feature of Western civil society at this time.

      Maureen Emily Cragg, BS, MA

    • BuckTheSystem

      I think it is high time for us to react / address and call out the current, escalating yet all-too-transparent “DBA-strategy” (Discredit By Association) adopted by NASA’s propaganda dept – clearly designed for damage control: NASA has by now been roundly exposed as a total fraud – and, of course, they weren’t going to just sit back and let a growing number of honest / legitimate grass-root researchers “lead” the fledgling ‘NASA truth movement’ (for lack of a better term – *sigh*) and tranquilly diffuse their findings to the general public – in any sort of snowballing / or unimpeded fashion.

      What NASA has rolled out is a carefully planned and coordinated, ‘viral’ DBA / co-opting campaign centered on the ‘Flat Earth’ meme and – I will hastily add – (with respect to those who may honestly entertain alternative cosmic models of their own) this fact should be clear as day to anyone, regardless of whether you reckon we live on a globe, a cube, a pancake or a Wiener würstel. The point being, it is by now painfully obvious that the objective of this NASA-campaign is to associate & equate (in the general public’s psyche) anyone questioning NASA to mentally challenged / raving crackpots:

      Tim: “Hey, Joe – did you watch that NASA rocket launch last night on TV? Heck – there was ‘CGI’ written all over it!”

      Joe: “Omg, Tim… Taken your meds lately? Duh, I bet you also believe the earth is flat? HA HA HA! ”

      In the last half-decade or so, I will proudly point out, no research community that I know of has contributed as much – or worked as hard – as Cluesforum to inflict the afore-mentioned damage to NASA’s credibility. I think we owe it to ourselves – and to our vast body of research and findings (representing untold hours of collective efforts over the years) – not to just sit back and watch this latest NASA mind-twisting game playing out – and snowballing in unimpeded fashion. Not that I have any idea / or magic recipe as how to counteract the mighty NASA propaganda machine – but at least I wish to make my stance very clear on this issue.

      Admittedly – and so far – I have myself mostly just lazily sat back and watched this flat-u-lent scheme unfolding – quietly cringing at the apparent ‘success’ of it all. Then again, what sort of ‘failure’ could one possibly expect from ANY government-backed / NASA-budgeted propaganda operation? I have to say, though – even if it hurts – that the Nutwork is getting noticeably better / smarter at casting their (supposed “random-grassroot-John-Does-like-you-and-I”) gatekeeping characters. Their steadily-growing / mushrooming team of “Flat-Earth-Experts-cum-Nasa-Bashers” is manned (with a few exceptions – such as the crude Dave Weiss clown) by reasonably intelligent-sounding, well-spoken individuals whom you might mistake for (with a little imagination) truly sincere & well-meaning proponents of the flat earth theory. Mind you – and on the other hand – their unfailingly / overly-slick videos “à-là-Ace Baker” give them away for what they are, but this clue may be lost to the casual viewer of their supposed ‘amateur’ (audio and video) media productions.

      I won’t list here any of the ‘well-spoken’ entities right now – as my intent with this post is only to generally address this transparent DBA operation and to voice my concern about the fact that – unfortunately – some otherwise smart people I know of appear to have fallen for it – at one level or another (if not exactly hook, line and sinker).

      However, I can’t resist to share with everyone this lame – yet wholly expected (by yours truly) – development of the increasingly desperate NASA damage-control efforts. It’s a video by one ‘David Ridlen’ – who appropriately describes himself as a “Professor of Pixel Poo” on his Youtube channel. Please note that the ONLY TWO “related YT channels” listed there – are those of “Eric Dubay” and “Jeranism” (two active flat earth proponents – whom Mr David Ridlen is supposedly ‘working against’!…) If you can’t muster to watch this whole thing, let me just tell you what it’s all about: Mr Ridlen, the “Pixel Poo professor”, is quite bluntly – lo and behold – EQUATING THE FLAT EARTH BELIEVERS WITH THE NASA DISBELIEVERS :

      To those who might still be a bit confused (I don’t blame them!) : YES, those ‘flat earthers’ APPEAR to do the right thing – i.e. denouncing the Grand NASA Scam. Yet this is ex-ac-tly what NASA wants: to associate people who believe the earth is flat with those denouncing NASA. As it is, NASA desperately needs to “lead” – i.e. to stay on top of the ever-so-slooooowly-surging wave of public realization / awakening – and to control their own, inevitable downfall – so as to postpone it as long as possible. To ensure the longest possible timespan for their ongoing mass deception, they are counting on squeezing every last drop of human gullibility available on this Earth.

      http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1810

    • pulltabjunkie

      This article is absolutely ridiculous. Flat Earth is NOT a psyop. It is an awakening. Anyone who believes the earth is a sphere is seriously shallow. You all spout your unbelievably silly science, without one shred of proof, supporting your overlords like good little minions. Everything tied to a globe earth scientifically is just the same tired crap you were force fed in the classroom. You can easily conduct the experiments supporting Flat Earth using inexpensive equipment and common sense. When someone can show an untouched 360 degree pan shot photo of earth from space, make water sit on a ball, explain why the Pygathorean formula for measuring curvature doesn’t work, etc., then Flat Earth would go away. ALAS, that will never happen, because we have never been to space, the Pygathorean formula doesn’t work because there is no curvature, water won’t magically stick to a ball…get it? Go ahead and make fun, and repeat your pseudoscience mantras, and bitch and moan, I’ll try to have several million pairs of Donkey Ears to pass out to you spherical zombies. HEEEEEEEEE HAWWWWWWWWWW

      • Amuzza

        After 2.5 hrs in a hot air balloon over brisbane on a calm day we landed 25 klm from where we departed.
        If the planet is spinning at .5 klm per second or 1572 klm an hour or whatever the correct figure is I am all ears for an explanation THAT CAN BE PROVED thank you …no speculation now!

    • Worldgonebananas

      The Flat earth thinking is NOT CIA or FBI. Its a simple get out from under the brain washing. The globe system is their god. Yes, we are saying LOOK! We are saying open up your Indoctrinated eyes and ears. For once dont let Science BS you. Its pretty easy to determine FACTS. You dont need fake pictures and CGI footage from Google, or ISS. They have ALREADY been busted for Green Screen activity pretending to be on ISS. The So called pictures which are very few explains it ALL. If I had a camera in space,we would have 50 million real pictures from space. we have Zero. One from the 70′s that is FAF. and a couple totally different ones from a few years ago that are FAF. So evidently, Hubble or Sophie can get far enough away, or they just dont care. If Nasa could produce, then we wouldnt have real questions.

      Look at what we get. the 4th Commandment ” thou shall make No image of anything in the heavens, of the earth or anything on it.” Looks as if they are breaking that commandment with every GLOBE. So suspicious I am. Then, we can see 40 ft parts of land from 20 miles away over the ocean, We can see most of buildings 50 miles away over the great lakes. We can see high altitude vids form helium balloons, Mountain ranges that should curve down 20 miles yet they come up to above/raise to eye level than the closer mountains from 300 miles away. Nothing could hold billions of lbs of water to a globe spinning at 1000mph. the same stars are above us every night, gravity is a fictitious theory that has more holes than swiss cheese, pilots, naval and airforce people have shown us technology as well as others that completely disintegrates that the earth is a globe. Believe what you want, but flat earthers are 100 times more clear headed that Globalist. You cant lie to us, we will not buy into the BS. Lol. This article cracks me up. I personally know that Nasa is grasping for air, they are going down, they just dont know it yet. A militia is gathering strength, they will have to confess. it will be fully documented. They want to lie, we will out think, out smart, out wit and show the whole world what buffoons they really are. you watch. I wouldn’t be surprised if they blow the whole operation up to cover up their lies. Hopefully the people I know will prevail before they do so. our people are not hateful, nor destructive, nor are they in any way going to harm anyone, they are just getting the truth! This may lead to another FAKE war, and fake news and fake coverup. Dont be surprised. they have you all for fools!!!!

    • nbakay

      I have seen the picture of flat as shown by the flat earth advocates that the North Pole is at the center. My question is… Where is the South Pole/Antarctica located? If the answer is it’s encircle the whole land mass and whole body of water with a 200 ft. tall of ice. It means that the South Pole/Antarctica is bigger than the whole land mass and body of water combined?

      Will you please explain this…?
      http://www.ancientdestructions.com/piri-reis-map-of-antarctica/

    • seataka

      TRUE –

      What do 911, Scientology, Flat-Earth and the Anti-Trump PR efforts all have in common?
      http://arnielerma.wordpress.com
      All use the same METHODs to control what is thought to be true, only the stage settings and shore stories are different.

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