Shocking Conspiracy! The Universe is Not What We Think It Is.
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Most people are now aware of how much our government lies to us. It’s in the news every day. But this lie is much more sinister, more evil, and is intentionally intended to totally disrupt our lives and deceive us. The unfortunate thing is that most people simply believe it without even questioning it, but as with all conspiracies, the truth eventually triumphs. And this conspiracy has had it’s day because some brave men and women are now exposing the truth and the cover up.
The biggest lie that we are taught in school is about our universe. Even though it is just a theory, not fact, and has never been proven, but yet it is taught as absolute truth. Sure, our teachers now and then did mention that this was just a theory, but it was still taught as fact. And this was the only thing that was taught, no alternative theories were compared, mentioned, or tested against this theory. Since then everything we see, hear, and read reinforces that fact into our brains. So this is what we were brainwashed to believe regardless of whether it is true or not.
In 1969 when the Apollo astrounauts supposedly landed on the moon, everyone watched their tv screens in awe and for the first time actually saw the earth hanging in space. There was no doubt in anyone’s mind that the earth was a spinning globe. But what if this was all a hoax, what if it didn’t really happen? What would we believe then? Today we have much better means of determining if they really did go to the moon or not, and what we find is that even today jet propulsion rockets are simply not able to get a man to the moon and back. We also know that the Van Allen Radiation Belts which start at 600 miles up are not possible to navigate through without lead shielding on the capsule. But this is prohibitive because of the extra weight involved. And when we check out the footage of the Apollo moon missions, we see several irregularities which are unexplainable. All this leads to more questions and doubts.
Then we start doing the math and asking questions regarding a spinning globe earth and find the same irregularities. Such as how come if the earth is spinning at 1,000 mph and it drags the air and clouds along with it, we can have a perfectly calm day. Have you ever been in a hurricane? A category 3 hurricane has winds in excess of 120 mph. We watched those on tv where the roofs are flying off houses, trees are being uprooted, anything not nailed down is flying in every direction. Absolute devastation. And this is only at 120 mph. What would happen at 1,000 mph. Yet this is how fast we were told the air and clouds and earth are moving.
And when we were kids we would go to the park and ride a merry go round and have fun going as fast as we could to see who would fly off first. And we would go to the county fair and ride the Rotor where the floor would drop down and we would stick to the wall as it went round and round. And then we ask, is this what makes the water stick to the earth as it’s spinning? It’s supposed to fly off the earth not stick to it. That is what spinning motions do. But we were told that gravity is much stronger than centrifugal force, in fact it’s so strong that the moment you lift one foot to take a step, gravity is pulling it back down, can’t you just feel that every time you take a step? So what’s the problem holding a few trillion quadrillion tons of water on the earth.
And then we think, well, if the earth is moving at 1,000 mph then I’ll just get a helicopter and hover a few feet off the ground and in an hour I’l be 1,000 miles away from here. But if you were to try it, it wouldn’t work, you would come right back down where you started. And we are told that’s because as soon as we go up in the air, we also are moving at 1,000 mph in the same direction as the earth. But then we ask, so does this mean that if I go in the opposite direction I am going to face 1,000 mph headwinds. Gee, I remember that a category 3 hurricane is 120 mph and I couldn’t fly in that, how am I going to overcome 1,000 mph winds. Or are you saying that the atmosphere is Not moving at 1,000 mph. But you said it was, so which is it?
And the questions keep coming. And when we look for answers all we find are elaborate mathematical formulas and laws and explanations that most of us can’t understand. So how do we get our questions answered, and where do we start. To most people it simply doesn’t matter. And this is why they can keep lying to us. But for those that do want to know, to whom this does matter, HERE is a good place to start. Read it with an open mind and then you can continue your research from there.
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The writer doesn’t mention consciousness, evidence from quantum experiments suggest the universe is exactly what we think it is. Indeed without a conscious mind, the universe would be nothing more than a vast expanse of infinite potentiality, without form or function.
GOT PROOF OUR COURTS ARE REALLY “A VIRTUAL REALITY”:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ohio-caught-rigging-court-cases-billion-dollar-larcey-jerry-blake?trk=prof-post
ITS LIKE LIVING IN “THE TWILIGHT ZONE”.
Everything we have been taught since a young age is a lie, and I mean everything..
The mystery of the universe has been solved. The emperor has no clothes.
Fact: The Earth Is Flat-Full Documentary
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fk4YqPtvJao
Bible Proof The Earth Is Flat.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?ebc=ANyPxKoZ7m3esktuTHFSZ1cY6IipH915NmkjVNwTbBUFfvpjBR3L84uxvDkQe8WOoJHVl2-oRdhPh0CZX9Jj_SJHg4Ue29tEHg&v=cApXPTrOf7A
Google Knows The Earth Is Flat – Flat Earth Maps In Movies And TV:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ERIRHL6b9Vc
Why the Great Flat Earth Deception in under 5 minutes:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TJDDiDc2zyY
Genesis 1:6-8: “And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day. And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas…” We are introduced to the cosmology of the ancient Hebrews only six verses into the beginning of the first book in the Bible, Genesis.”
I think the erth is flat becas I saw a map in my uncle ricos fun room that was flat. And why can berds fly when we cant’? The erth haS to be flat.
Hey PeoplePower yer cool do you like crayuns? My name is DavId, you shoud read my books!
I dunno. wen i wuz in teh hopsital they gots a earth i could spin around that was like a basket ball and it wuz not a flat. they had a train i could play with to.
I love tranes!!! Tomas the tank injin is my favrit.
Do you think the erth is round? I always wonderrd about those spining globes they are pretty earafutibal.
i now the erth is rond but also flat cuz wen i swin real hard on the swinset i can see alliway to china and they can see me even if they are squinting hard to see!
I’n happy to see youz guys here to help peeplepower an don forget if you buy my book one of us will sine it!
I like Thomas. him an his frends help eech other carry stuff on the tracks. some times they get in big trubble but its always gets fixed. My favrite is the one that carrys the grabidge. if you sign my book ill sell it on ebay for $2 less.
Now that’s a good comment! Thank you for reminding me!
These “quantum” theory guys will jump on anything and make out they found it first and a lot of the time they are talking BS and make far too many assumptions.
Entanglement is just spooky logic at a distance and they use the speed of light for a base to say how time works you could just as well pick the speed of sound and apply the same logic.
They use computers to model the universe and the picture the computer produces just about matches the background radiation when we take a snapshot of the univers but for this to work they needed to fudge the numbers using black matter and thay assumed that gravity always had an attraction force.
Well other models have produced the same results but they had gravity as being a repelant force just after the big bang and as a means to explan the energy involved and the model also worked in a computer simulation.
You cannot have it both ways and i could write software that takes an input of a .jpg file for an input that includes a picture of a football match and then play with the pixels untill it too looks like the background radiation of the universe.
All i can tell you is that it apears that we live in side some type of computer simulation
Looking at this, and crunching the numbers using scientific experiments.
Here is one very simple experiment anyone can perform using a globe.
http://rickpotvinflatearth.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2015-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&updated-max=2016-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=50
Just rem most Smerf Phones have a gyroscope app, or You can prob download one at your favourite, keeping you in the bubble crappy app place…..be sure not to give them your human interface numbers
For the globe test
Some parts of quantum theory is fact but it comes with so much bullshit too and you can forget anything about muiltiverse because it’s not possible due to too much processing power being needed with little in the way of results.
We have lots of “dimentions” or more to the point simulations but it’s not the same thing as a muiltivers and “consciousness” is just a form of computer processing your own private bit of data but it’s not networking even if you can talk to someone next to you.
I don’t have the words to describe how it feels when you network in what i call “home groups” but you have to losse the “self” side to be a part of it and it becomes like a one see’s all see exchange of thoughts plus feelings but the size of the group has to be limited or else it would all become too mixed up to be usefull like everyone all speaking at the same time. (100-2000 minds i thinks, not billons, didn’t have time to count them)
Neuroscience is just starting to rock the world which leads down the same path but if i could then i would put it back in it’s box and keep the lid well shut myself but thats never going to happen is it now.
More flat brain BS??? Ya’ll need medication and some time in a physics lab… my 4 year old son could explain that we live on a globe…
Much agreed. Usually I don’t read these – because of all the fake news, the ignorance of “flat earth” makes me actually annoyed.
I can’t believe these retards are still walking the earth, I agree with you Syco
Divide and conquer.
I’ve watched a few videos and i’m not convinced, but i’m still open to the idea, because I havn’t seen the entire earth myself, and all I can see is pictures. Especially while knowing the truth about American “education”. The same goes for you, unless you work for a flight program. So don’t be so arrogant to assume, because its foolish, even if the earth is actually round.
This is reprinted from a few weeks ago. It is not new.
It is to show what Jango’s reaction to Facts and Mathematics are
when he cannot control the flow of Information.
THIS WHOLE TOPIC IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!
THE FLAT EARTH MOVEMENT HAS EXISTED OVER 100 YEARS,
AND SINCE THEIR BEGINNING HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO PROVIDE
A WORKING MAP OF THE SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE.
They claim to have done this, but they have only provided an
Azimuthal Equidistant North Polar Projection. Please look up the
term Map Projection. Flat Earthers out of Ignorance and Laziness
use the term without thinking Twice. A Projection Map means that
the dimensions were taken from a sphere and modified and copied to
a flat surface. No Phantasy on my Part. Only FACT. They provide
links to the Gleason Map. Some original copies on the Internet still
have the original border with the Azimuthal Projection Title. Others on
the Internet are Direct copies with the title modified.
One Thing To Remember about the Supposed Flat Earth and ANY MAP
THEREOF, A Flat Earth Map is supposed to be 100% Accurate. It is
supposed to be scalable anywhere on the Map. You should be able to
take any commonly accepted distance from anywhere on the map,
measure it, and compare it in size to an unknown distance to calculate
the unknown distance. This is not possible on a map of a Sphere, but
it MUST be Possible on a Flat Earth Map!!!
(You should Google the Gleason Flat Earth Map, get out a Children’s
Ruler, and start Having FUN!!! The Gleason Map is Supplied in MANY
Flat Earth Links.)
The Main Point for Every Person. If You Allow Someone to Dictate Fact
to You, without Double Checking It, You are guilty yourself when you are
Led Astray. If You want to Embrace Fantasy, if you refuse to Double Check,
It is Your Choice, and you must Pay. Please I Invite You To Double Check
My Work. And I Ask You, Do You Want To Believe In A World They Can Not
Draw A Functioning Map Of??? An Odometer on some old Ford in Australia
is not Rocket Science, and it will Prove Their Map Wrong!
To Believe an Odometer on an old Automobile does
not Force You To Deny G-D!!!! Regardless of what Jango Says!!!
Please double check everything with a Mathematician, or Maps Expert,
and with a Historian who understands early Naval Exploration of the
South Pacific. Educating Yourself is not a Sin. Defending Youself
Against Charlatans is not a Sin. (Regarless of the Opinion Espoused by the
Charlatan.)
(Please Readerss, Read Patiently the Comment Below, which
was Jango’s answer to huge discrepancies in the Gleason
ACCEPTED Flat Earth Map when compared to freight routes and
distances on existing, accurate road maps.)
“The distances you mentioned are all taken from a flat earth map. Whether you take flight distance, sea distance, or longitude distance, they are all calculated on a flat earth map. Simple reason….we don’t live on a round spinning globe. That is impossible for 200+ reasons. You probably never took the time to look it up. All you do is spew hot air, and even when confronted with facts you deny them. It is impossible to reason with you.”
DISTANCES Brisbane To Perth Australia. (East West, Coast to Coast)
Accepted Shortest distance. – – 3,613 KM. 2,245 Miles
Distance by Road – – 4,309 Km 2,671 Miles
Gleason Map (Scaled 2 x distance Seattle to New York,
Possibly – – 7,754 KM 4,810 Miles
(In the same way that NASA is Criticized about Photo Quality,
I believe the Gleason Map is Chosen to make Accuracy Nearly Impossible”)
Using A Formula using a Trigonometry Oblique Triangle Formula, using
Longitudinal degrees between two locations, Plus the distances from the North Pole,
To Each Location.
“Since the Earth Is supposed to be FLAT, this Triangular formula should give EXACT
Distance between two points without any Failure. I Am Open To Criticism from
Real (and Honest) Mathemeticians.)
With Triangulation Formula, 8,421 Km – – 5,229 Miles
(These numbers “Honestly” bear a striking resemblance to the Gleason numbers.)
I find this all quite interesting, and this is most interesting if you are driving a
car Brisbane (or Sydney) to Perth, Taking a Plane Brisbane to Perth,
Or Attempting to Circumnavigate Austrailia. (The Difference “Failure” being
“Roughly 70%”.
Please take Jango’s attitude in this context. If You have to Accomplish Nothing
Physical in Your Life, Embracing the Flat Earth Might Be For You!!!!!!
If You are Employed in the Southern “Hemisphere” in the Transportation Sector,
Embracing Belief in the Flat Earth Will Most Likely Lead to Your Termination.
(As You Would Be Uninsurable)
(Also, I would not suggest hiking East-West the length of Australia using the
Gleason Map as Your Guide, – - – As there would be a High Risk of Drowning.)
You Should Use The Mind The Good Lord Gave You. He Gave It To You For A
Reason Far Greater Than Filling A Vacuum Between Your Ears!!!!!
Thank You,
RR
Yeah, the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Son just like his Father is easily brainwashed and doesn’t require any proof for their beliefs, the perfect patsies.
Consider seeing THE PRINCIPLE, a new highly controversial documentary that gets to the bottom of what is happening in cosmology:
/space/2016/01/lawrence-krauss-spilled-the-beans-on-jeffrey-epsteins-private-island-2495494.html
/alternative/2016/01/flat-earth-is-a-psyop-to-attack-documentary-the-principle-3272834.html
I did watch the interviews and trailer but haven’t found the movie free on the internet yet. Any links?
It is available on DVD/Blueray or streaming: http://www.theprinciplemovie.com
As far as I can tell, without actually watching the movie, here is the fallacy:
The Cosmic Microwave Background is not uniform. (It always had a dark spot in the southern hemisphere, and now two different satellite studies show a band of bright spots around us.)
Well gosh, the ENTIRE reason for believing it was a glow from a big bang was: uniformity.
The wavelength/temperature of the CMB is one-third of what was predicted, for a big bang. It never fit the prediction.
But it was claimed that it was coming from all directions of the sky evenly. And guess what, it’s not.
So instead of ASSUMING that it’s a big bang glow, with us at the center,
Just throw out the whole big bang story. It has had nothing to support it since 1971, when Halton Arp proved (by photographing a highly redshifted quasar, attached by plasma to a not-so-redshifted galaxy) that red shift does not equal distance from us.
And don’t waste your time or your money on that movie. We are not at the center of the universe, because the “cosmic microwave background” is LOCAL. LOCAL. LOCAL.
Believe me Lifels, it is not that simplistic. Lawrence Krauss, Michio Kaku, George FR Ellis, Max Tegmark, etc. are a bit smarter than to fall for that.
No, they are not. They are dumber than a sack of hammers.
Hahaha… well said. Here’s a conspiracy for your… almost every person who holds a graduate degree from a university holds that degree because they agreed to tow some agenda. This applies to fields such as medicine, law, history, anthropology, astronomy, etc. People who don’t believe in conspiracies think there are way too many people to keep such secrecy, but you cannot receive a graduate degree unless you silently agree. It’s rarely said out loud how I just said it, although that’s exactly what my graduate counselor told me in 1975. So all these people we believe to be so freaking brilliant aren’t really if they have a vested interest in keeping quiet and have perpetrated lies in their fields. These people you listed are famous because they are promoted and put in places where they will reach the masses. When you see the letters PhD, think B.O.U.G.H.T. Not all for sure, but most.
Had there been a ‘witness’ to the LORD’s initial creation…it probably would have looked like our concept of “big bang”. Most of man’s confusion, as to the nature of God, finds, at it’s source, a natural inability to comprehend whole-ness…..its like trying to pour a gallon of milk into a 8 oz glass.
Mankind is not without spiritual resources and millions of us are tuned in, but, as a whole, the race is blind to God’s truth and MERCY. You, can never KNOW it all, and the details will never make sense to an earthly brain. Most humans ‘mislead’ themselves, and deceive themselves into believing that the truth can fit into a human brain….It cannot.
The only answer is FAITH. And the only source we have for the TRUTH of what’s happening NOW, Is the WORD….The “living WORD of God”, Jesus the Christ.
I can guarantee that there is no problem in this world that can’t be addressed.
Thanks John for posting this. I bought the film last week and just watched it today. That combined with your post/link made for a compelling read. The scientists have zero integrity and lack the character to continue in academia. Thanks again.
ONE PICTURE!!! That’s all I ask… somebody must’ve been to the edge… Is ONE PICTURE too much to ask?
They can’t get past the radiation belt to get a pic is what I am thinking.
In order to keep the moon landing hoax going they have to publish fake pictures of a round earth which peak the ire of flat earthers. All of this goes back to the moon landing hoax and all the subsequent data that flat earthers are using as ammunition to prove a flat earth.
i also think the Earth is 3x as big as we are being told which debunks the ” I can see building from 60 miles away non sense, sure you can but so what? The Earth is bigger, the fall off distance is about 500 miles or more..
The earth cannot be bigger than roughly 25,000 miles in diameter. The official story is that in one day, 24 hours it rotates once at 1000mph. That is how we get to a 24 hour day. If it is bigger, than it cannot be spinning at 1000mph. Either way, the official lie is exposed.
(1) You can see why there isn’t a 1,000 mph wind, in weather maps. And weather reports.
The atmosphere (and the sea) spins with the Earth. As air moves from the poles to the equator, it drifts to the west, because the Earth is spinning underneath it. But the air picks up spin, until it’s moving at the same speed as the Earth.
As air moves from the equator toward the poles, the spin it acquired is GREATER THAN that of the air around it, and it drifts eastward. That spin produces the jet streams.
That spin takes the Gulf Stream eastward across the Atlantic, as the current flows north.
These are observed, well-known facts.
(2) The spinning ocean doesn’t fly off the Earth. But it does get lifted by centrifugal force. 13 miles high.
Surveyors can measure the height of land, accurately. It’s not an arcane science. There IS an equatorial bulge, produced by centrifugal force. From the Earth’s spin.
And sea level is THIRTEEN MILES HIGHER at the equator. Imagine how much energy it takes, to lift millions of cubic miles of water, thirteen miles high.
Yes, as you move toward the equator, you are moving farther from the center of the Earth, and that is an observed, well-known fact.
(3) The Earth and Moon orbit their common center of mass. It is below the surface of the Earth, but it is not at the center of the Earth.
As the Moon orbits that point, so does the Earth. The Earth swings around to counterbalance the Moon.
And the centrifugal force from THAT makes a high tide, opposite the Moon. There is a high tide under the Moon, and there is a high tide opposite the Moon.
The Moon is overhead, high tide. Next time the Moon is overhead, high tide. And HALFWAY BETWEEN is another high tide. From the centrifugal force, of the Earth’s spin.
Answer any of these OBSERVABLE FACTS and their inevitable interpretation.
1. Coriolis Effect 2. Equatorial bulge 3. Tides opposite the Moon.
You can’t.
They do not take into account inertia, and really dismiss gravity (which is very strange). I would correct you and say that the Coriolis force, as well as the equatorial bulge, etc. come from a relative motion between the earth and the rest of the universe. This is explained in THE PRINCIPLE documentary, and it also comes down to the nature of inertia.
The Coriolis effect IS inertia. Air (and water) acquire inertia (by friction) as they move toward the equator, and they lose inertia (by friction) as they move away from the equator.
The equatorial bulge IS inertia. Centrifugal force is inertia.
The high tide opposite the Moon is inertia.
“Gravity” is what keeps the air and water on the globe, and arranged according to density. Water on top of land, air on top of water.
If “The Principle” has something to say, say it in words. If it’s not easy to express, it’s not understood. And what is not understood cannot be believed.
Well there you have it, I guess you certainly are smarter than God.
Jango that is not a response to any point i’ve made.
Your understanding, or misunderstanding, of God should lead you to address, with facts and logic, those points.
Jango,
An Automobile Odometer and a Tape Measure
are out of your League, but you shamelessly
Espouse with full authority on any and every
Topic. When confronted, your answers are
totally off the Wall. Push it Further, and you
and King of Shamblaha can start doing
Seminars Together. (Sharing the Stage
without Conflict.)
Keep Smearing the Peanut Butter, Jango!
RR
Lifel- there is more than one possible explanation for both inertia and for gravity. We can measure the effects of gravity and inertia quite accurately (especially terrestrially and within our solar system), but we do not have mechanistic explanations for them.
I agree, these are inertial effects. I was not arguing against your explanation, rather agreeing with them. I only corrected you on one point. Please read my comment again for clarification.
As an old land surveyor, I agree.
Also adding to your list, if they could explain
4.Meteorite impacts
6. Clockwise and counter Clockwise spin in their toilets.
Lifels Ive usually got a bit of time for you because you seem to be more sensible than some of the trolls on here…
JUST ANSWER THIS QUESTION FOR ME..
The centrifugal force lifts the water 13 miles high at the equator right?
So in physics we know a spinning ball spins faster at the centre than at the poles right ?
WHY do we not weigh 10 times more at the poles than at the equator???
& someone mentioned just 1 picture of the edge…well I would like just 1 picture of the Earth that isnt computer generated
another one who doesn’t know how gravity works
Gravity is a form of dark energy, no “human being” is 100% certain how it works
Yes that “dark energy” is the stuff they needed to add to the model to explan why planets seemed to be accelarating away from each other to make the numbers add up.
Don’t forget to mention “Black Matter” that they also needed to add to the model to account for the numbers not adding up and was needed to glue more local solar systems togeather using gravity.
Now they say they know about the higgs boson, the god particle that turned out to be a wave so they are now trying to use a wave to explan another wave away.
They are pulling it out of there arses and they don’t know if black holes are anything more than a theory and then go on to talk about worm holes well i too am good at pulling it out my arse so i will call two inter connected worm holes my fuzzy logic holes in time/space and you never quite know where you are going to end up if you enter one.
if i post you my left shoe in a box and you live on planet zark then information between earth and zark travels faster than the speed of light because in a second you will know that my right shoe must be here on earth.
They are playing mind game and tricks on us with dead cats in a box and other magical tricks from a con artist.
Max Plank stated his opinions with several quotes during his life time in the study of science. Science, including of the Universe, destroys old theories for new theories quite frequently. No big deal. The Creator will straighten humanity out, quite certainly, regarding the nature of the Universe some day in the future.
This is a joke, right?
There are professionally-made videos, with carefully constructed specious arguments, designed to make fools of people who are not equipped to figure them out. That’s more than just a joke, it’s some sort of propaganda project.
The exponential launch in October 2014 could be related to the release of THE PRINCIPLE, a movie that questions current cosmology in a very serious and rigorous manner:
/alternative/2016/01/flat-earth-is-a-psyop-to-attack-documentary-the-principle-3272834.html
Our universe is a hologram, all the scientists know it, the government knows it, now you know.
Anonymous, I don’t. They don’t. And if they did, it would make no difference to our discussion.
The hologram story is that the Universe is 2-dimensional, and the nature of the Universe that we SEE is information “encoded” in the 2-D plane.
It is the mathematical fiction of some string theorists, and string theory is ALL mathematical fiction.
It would not make a bit of difference how the “information” was “encoded.” It’s still the same spherical Earth.
i am 50% flatearther 50% round earther… i am currently doing my own research… Could one not just go to the Atlantic ocean set up a high powered telescope and look toward Africa? or Pacific ocean towards Hawaii?
There are high powered telescopes all over the planet, most are high on the top of mountains. They never are pointed horizontally for this reason.
I want to see a time lapse video of the earth spinning. That’s the only thing that will put the FET to bed, and there is no such thing.
Fact: We are taught that prior to Columbus’ voyage to America, most everyone believed the earth was flat but there was still contention about the flat/round idea. We were told Columbus was in the globe camp and that he claimed if he sailed west he would not fall off the edge. He went, came back with proof that he found a route to the West Indies (false) and the church used this to convince the world the earth is a globe. We are not told that Columbus knew he would not fall off the edge because he had very accurate maps given to him made by Chinese chartographers and explorers who had sailed around the world many times. This map looks remarkably similar to the one used by the United Nations today for their logo. It’s flatter than Kansas. Take a good hard look at it, if you dare. While you’re doing that, ask yourself why the elite call themselves globalists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTVsDrf1CUY
Bad-Clown that video is incoherent. It does not say anything.
“Phase generator” means what? “Impenetrable energy” means what?
“Spheres” counter-rotating and “distorting space-time” by doing so, means what?
And what is the basis for saying any of the things that are said, in the video?
There is none.
EARTH IS FLAT LIKE THE BRAINS OF THE DENIERS!
Earth, the oceans are tidal effected by the moon, BUT!, there is a point out there where both gravities cancel each other out to a point of zero gravity. How can the smaller gravity moon have effect on the oceans and the sun does not. The sun is much larger with more gravity. Somethings not right here.
Some other force must be at play to tidal effect the water. The gravity is canceled “approx” 225,000 miles out from earth and “roughly” 25,000 miles from the moon. Based on that distance the moon should have no effect on the earths water.
The point where the Moon’s gravity and the Earth’s gravity cancel each other (the “neutral point”) is about 211,000 miles from the Earth. About 43,500 miles above the Moon.
We see that the Moon produces high tides, so we ask how?
I see a know-it-all science web page offers the easy (and wrong) answer, that the neutral point is irrelevant. The Moon’s gravity is weaker here, in accordance with the inverse square law, but it still pulls water up.
They are saying it makes no difference at all, where the neutral point is.
The fallacy there is: if the Moon’s gravity pulls on us, then there’s a balancing point, a neutral point, RIGHT HERE on Earth. Where the Moon’s weak pull is balanced by the Earth’s pull.
And the way out of that swamp is to know this one thing:
The barycenter (center of mass) of the Earth and Moon together, is 1,000 miles below the surface of the Earth.
Earth and Moon both orbit that point. The Earth swings around to counterbalance the Moon. Okay so far? You’ve got PART of the Earth and the Moon on one side, and MOST of the Earth on the other side.
“Centrifugal force” is slinging water upward, toward the Moon, on the Moon’s side. And “centrifugal force” is slinging water the opposite direction, on the opposite side.
Everyone knows the tides opposite the Moon are produced by that centrifugal force. Not everyone realizes the tides under the Moon are the same thing.
And it is amusing to see smug and supercilious people imagine they are making a point, by saying, “the neutral point is where the SUM of their gravity is zero, not their individual gravity.” And other smug people post comments congratulating them.
Dudes, the Earth is swinging around a point that is 1,000 miles down. There is centrifugal force.
Lifels,
You deliver commentary with quality, and finely detailed.
I can follow your thought processes throughout.
And the Jango will Post an “Answer”.
Internet Anonymity, plus the American Culture and
School System, mixed with a bit of “High Functioning”
Mental Health Disorders” Has truly created some interesting
Creatures.
RR
its temporary that’s all we know as fact
1. The curvature of the earths shadow on the moon, and a lunar cycle and ecliptic cycle which fits perfectly with the “geo-centric” model.
2. What about Venus. If the sun is only 4000 miles away, and really small as you would argue, that would put Venus inside the atmosphere, and super tiny. But we know that not true, because you have to use a telescope to view Venus….. WAIT!!!! unless all the telescopes are also in on the conspiracy!!!!
Jango, have you never gotten on a jet and flown to 40,000 feet into the air
where you can plainly see the curvature of the earth? If not, please do so.
It’s not some kind of trick to make you think everyone is conspiring against you.
Where did this paranoia come from within your mind? When Megellan got on
his ship and sailed it clear around the globe, he just went as far as he could
heading west, until he got to the other side of the planet, and had to dodge
the American Continents by going south around them. I seriously doubt that
he was out to conspire against you when he proved the world was not flat.
As for the wind and water, it’s simple.. First off if you suddenly threw an
atmosphere onto a planet without one, yes, the winds would be quite high,
but just as if you take a drill bit and stick it into a round coffee can full of water,
you would see that after a little while the water in the container would start
gaining speed and eventually will gain speed, so it is going around fast. There
is such a thing we call “drag”, and another thing that acts as friction. Both
of these elementary forces must be understood to explain the atmosphere
keeping up with the speed of the planet as it rotates.. Such as if you
put up a mountain range, they are going to help spin the air on the earth,
that’s why there is almost always lots of wind on mountains right? So the
mountains, trees, grasses, and other things that protrude outward from
the surface of the earth (over time), help to keep the atmosphere moving
along with the earth’s spin. Get it? Good, I knew you would!
As for gravity holding you down, you know as I have explained before,
mass holds the water onto the planet. You cannot compare a carnival
ride (like a merry-go-round) to an entire planet. That is not a true
comparison of size vs. speed. Sure speeding up a circular object like that
from zero to several miles per hour will create G forces that are noticeable.
The earth is thousands of miles in diameter. Even though it spins at close to
700 plus mph, because of it’s size it can’t generate outward G forces sufficient
enough to throw you off of the planet. If you shrunk the earth to half the size
of the moon, then you may have enough force to make you much lighter via
G forces.. But the earth is big enough, to counter act the G force effect and
has enough mass to counter act it as well. If the earth were ever to quit
spinning, you may weigh three times what you do now!
What is your point in all of this flat earth crap? What is
the goal of it? Are you really that paranoid to think that everyone from
Copernicus to our scientific community now have all ganged up to conspire
against you? If they are conspiring against you, what are you going to do
about it? I am really worried about your state of mental health.
It is well known that the “flat earth theory” is all a hoax to see how many
people would “accept” it as a new reality. QUIT IT NOW! Get over it.
No one is conspiring against you.
As far as your “chemical rockets” can’t possibly work.. Really? I stood in
the early morning before dawn only a few miles away from the space shuttle
Challenger and watched it blast off into space with my own eyes, years ago!
The roar from the engines at five miles away was deafening. The whole sky
lit up as it blasted off in Florida. We watched it go up on it’s chemical rocket
technology until it was just a tiny pinpoint of light.. Was I just watching some
conspiracy fantasy flight? I think you need to get out more often and go watch
one blast off sometime..
The Van Allen Belts issue is easy to explain. The Apollo capsule, was not
shielded with lead.. they used gold foil in the panels instead. Gold had some
radiation shielding properties however, they knew they would still get radiated
to a degree. You know the astronauts knew the risks, but we had heroes back
then that said they would do whatever it took.. They actually thought they had
a less than 50 percent chance of coming back alive, but they agreed to do it
regardless of the risk. Yep, there used to be such a thing as real men, and
heroes.
The Apollo remark is uninformed. What we learned in 2009 is: “”The moon is a source of radiation,” said Boston University researcher Harlan Spence, the lead scientist for LRO’s cosmic ray telescope. “This was a bit unexpected.”
“Overall, future lunar travelers face a radiation dose 30 percent to 40 percent higher than originally expected, Spence said.” http://news.discovery.com/space/history-of-space/moon-radiation-gamma-rays.htm
What we learned in 2013 is: “NASA’s Van Allen Probes have made a surprising and unusual discovery. They’ve found a particle accelerator in the heart of Earth’s radiation belts, speeding up tiny particles to more than 99 percent the speed of light.”
” “With more and more measurements, however, we realized how quickly and unpredictably the radiation belts changed. They are basically never in equilibrium, but in a constant state of change.”"
“In this particular case, all of the acceleration took place in about 12 hours,”"
http://www.scienceworldreport.com/articles/8401/20130726/nasa-van-allen-probes-discover-particle-accelerator-earths-radiation-belts.htm
The radiation belts are highly variable in intensity, and unpredictably so. As for the Apollo capsule, it was not shielded in any way.
When electrons strike metal, they produce X rays. Your foil would be worse than useless.
Beyond the radiation belts, charged particles from the sun, and cosmic rays, and solar neutrons, would strike a space vehicle directly. A solar flare would roast astronauts out there.
And Apollo was supposed to be carrying PHOTOGRAPHIC FILM. That would be exposed by X rays, or by the gamma rays emitted by the Moon’s surface, or by solar neutrons, or by neutrons emitted by the Moon’s surface.
Photographic film would be ruined. The Skylab space station, in low Earth orbit, had a lead-lined vault for photographic film. The supposed manned Moon missions did not.
That by itself proves we did not send manned vehicles, beyond low Earth orbit, ever. We sent unmanned vehicles, as the Soviets did.
We had astronaut heroes. Eleven of them died in 8 separate incidents in 1967, including the one who tried to tell the world we were not anywhere close to being ready to fly to the Moon. Gus Grissom. You may have read the character assassination in “The Right Stuff,” that’s what the Ministry of Propaganda does, to heroes.
There was no risk to the lying sacks of —- who helped perpetrate the hoax.
I am not saying that you are wrong about the Van Allen Belts, but you are.
My favorite study of all time was the one that said that most studies are
wrong. We didn’t have as massive sun radiation back in the 60′s as we do
today. The sun’s radiation is much higher theses days than it was back then.
As kids we could actually look at the sun for seconds at a time. Today you can’t
even look at it for a whole second without burning your eyes. Considering that,
the Van Allen Belts were passable back then. Using what we see today to apply
it to back then is ludicrous to say the least.
Don’t you think the Russians would have cried “foul” if we didn’t really go there?
The next thing on your film, our oldest satellites used film canisters and dropped
them back to earth. We had no other way to get actual pictures of the earth
back in those days.. Seemed the film survived out there then, as it did on the
moon missions. The solar radiation of today can’t be used for what it was back
then. Ask any old person to look at the sun today and ask them to remember
how it was when they were young.. They will tell you that it is much brighter
and radiant today then it was back then.
I like to listen to any point of view. I like to look at all evidence with an open
mind. I have watched all of the films, and haven’t been convinced yet that
we never went to the moon. Do they fudge pictures for effect? Yep, they do.
Does that mean it’s all fake, nope.
Gus Grissom said that we were not ready, and that is true, we were not as
of he time of Apollo 1′s fire. After that it took years to revamp the system.
I remember it clearly. So Gus was right (self fulfilling prophecy).
But I ask you Lifeis, if it’s all fake, and all a lie, what you gonna do about it?
It is accepted as real by most people. Let them have their “illusion”. Let
them think man did something “great”. Real or not, let them think it
happened, and that mankind may have pulled off something great.
No one will go to prison over this, no one will be giving us all of our
tax money back. So what’s the big deal? Just go on to something
that is more worthwhile, that fixes one of the big problems of today,
instead of ancient history. No good will ever come to proving a
moon hoax, so why get yourself all riled up over it? Take a deep
breath, sit back, relax, and decide which other conspiracy you
want to expose.
1. We do not have more solar radiation these days, we have less. And you need to cite a source, if you’re going to make a claim.
From 2013: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24512-solar-activity-heads-for-lowest-low-in-four-centuries/
“The sun’s activity is in free fall, according to a leading space physicist. “Solar activity is declining very fast at the moment,” Mike Lockwood, professor of space environmental physics at Reading University, UK, told New Scientist. “We estimate faster than at any time in the last 9300 years.”’
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/3222476/Suns-protective-bubble-is-shrinking.html
“New data has revealed that the heliosphere, the protective shield of energy that surrounds our solar system, has weakened by 25 per cent over the past decade and is now at it lowest level since the space race began 50 years ago.”
“The heliosphere is created by the solar wind, a combination of electrically charged particles and magnetic fields that emanate a more than a million miles an hour from the sun, meet the intergalactic gas that fills the gaps in space between solar systems.”
The Van Allen belts were not passable in the Apollo era, and in case you didn’t read the items cited, solar activity doesn’t cause the acceleration to higher energies. Does not, do you understand that?
But what about solar flares, UNPREDICTABLE. “In the August, after the safe return of Apollo 16, a large sunspot appeared on the solar surface and let fly a rash of solar flares that pumped deadly radiation into space. Had Schmitt, or any other astronauts, been in space at the time, they would have perished from a fatal dose of solar radiation.” http://www.sciencefocus.com/blog/how-apollo-astronauts-avoided-deadly-solar-flare
2. The Soviets were cooperative –perhaps the grain purchases financed by the US government contributed –or perhaps the quid pro quo was that we cover up their space hoaxes, starting with the Gagarin flight.
In case you didn’t know, the Soviets returned an Apollo capsule to us, late in 1970. It was loaded onto a Coast Guard ship in Murmansk. Look it up. And if you want to claim it was a test capsule lost at sea, please name the guys who lost it. And how exactly.
3. The radiation environment is different in low Earth orbit, as described. And I’m sure the spy satellites shielded their film. And it was up there for short periods of time.
Some spy satellites had nuclear power sources. Film would be shielded from that.
Those film containers didn’t fly through the X rays produced by Van Allen electrons hitting metal. They didn’t fly to the gamma-ray source Moon. And we don’t know what kind of spots they had from solar neutrons.
4. From the murder of Gus Grissom and comrades, to the first fake flight around the Moon, was less than 2 years.
5. What your describe as the “fictitious ISS” is low Earth orbit, protected from most charged particles by the magnetic field of the Earth.
Just as the Earth’s surface is. And just as voyagers beyond the radiation belts would NOT be protected. It’s not gold foil. It’s a tremendous amount of energy, that protects those in low Earth orbit.
6. An engineer works on one little part of a project. And is in no position to know if the whole of it is as advertised.
7. Try to stay on topic. The gamma rays and neutrons emitted by the lunar surface were NOT KNOWN ABOUT in the Apollo era. “..Harlan Spence, the lead scientist for LRO’s cosmic ray telescope. “This was a bit unexpected.”
Unexpected radiation on the Moon’s surface, how can that be unexpected.
8. What difference does it make? Is that what you said? No wonder you can’t find the truth, with both hands and a flashlight. You’re not motivated to find it.
9. My generation? I sat in high school biology class wiping tears from my eyes, as the Apollo 13 capsule splashed down. We were all a lot more gullible then. But some of us no longer live in a fantasy.
10. Do something about Fukushima? Uhhh. I’d get cancer and die, if something else wasn’t going to kill me first. You don’t put hundreds of tons of plutonium and uranium and cesium into the environment and have a future.
This should go under the next post, but it will appear above it instead.
LifeIs, do you live within a few miles of the Houston Space Center (like I do)?
Have you ever been close up to any of the Apollo capsules that actually
went on the missions (like I have)? I have been to all of the following space
museums and working control Centers, touched actual capsules and examined
them quite closely.. Cape Canaveral (Used to be JFK Space Center), Huntsville
Space Center (the best), The Space Center at Alamagordo NM, plus the
Smithsonian Air and Space Museum.
You seem to be such an expert on what they did and did not have on them,
as far as protection goes. Just wondered if you have ever actually talked to
some of the engineers from back then (like I have), to know so much
about what they had for protection inside of their walls. Pretty much
the same thing they are using on the fictitious ISS for solar flares..
My neighbor worked for NASA for ten years. One of my other friends still
does. The neighbor explained it to me on the gold foil, and you are wrong.
Gold foil is what is used today on one section (or room) of the ISS to dive
into in case of solar flares. Just wondered how you became such an expert
on space hardware.. Ever been to, or touched ANY of the equipment?
Ever sat in the cockpit of the Space Shuttle? Talked to any real astronauts?
Been in the same room with a whole pile of astronauts? ANYTHING?
Well I have.. Now get off of your couch, or out of your mommies basement,
and go out to all of those places, touch, examine, ask and report back
with your findings.
Ah, so the moon is a source of radiation.. Really? Wow! So is Fukushima,
which is absolutely pelting the entire west coast with radiation, Somehow
we are still alive though. At least for the moment. Wish your generation
would think of some solution to that problem, instead of laying around
worrying about if we went to the moon or not, or worrying if the earth
is a sphere or flat.
One of the biggest laughs I got out of this whole flat earth thing was
that the sun is only 4000 miles away. If the sun was 4000 miles away,
shining down on a flat earth, there would be no night anywhere on the
flat disc. It would all be illuminated at all times. There could be no night
at all.
Experiment time for Jango:
Make your flat earth about one foot in diameter out of cardboard, or
whatever. Now go into a dark room such as a closet or interior bathroom,
or wait until night time for the experiment. Now to replicate the sun, you have
to use something bright, but nothing like a flashlight, it has to give light out
in all directions. Probably a candle will work best.. Now pull the candle back to
a distance of the diameter of your flat earth or possibly a bit more. Try to create
night for me using this experiment please. As you see, the candle lights the
entire disc of your flat earth up uniformly. So flat earther, how does night
happen? The example I saw in one of your video’s was hilarious to say the
least. The sun does not travel around over the flat disc in a circle. If that
example was done with the experiment above, you cannot artificially make
dark patches happen when the sun is over on the other side of the circle.
Who is dumb enough to buy into that? I’m still laughing. Do the experiment
and try to create night with the candle in front of your flat earth disc. You
can’t make night. So your whole theory falls apart. Now quit wasting your
time and our time.
And LIfeIs, they are taking astronaut applications right now here in Houston.
I want you to come down and apply and let’s see (if you make it), how phony
all of the space program really is. When you get strapped in and are on your
way to Mars, I want you to come back and tell us how phony it is. Or are ya
too scared you may be radiated, like the rest of your generation? I’m pretty
sure their selections won’t have any people under 50 apply, only brave people
will apply. Couch scientists won’t be considered.
In the words of Yoda, when Luke Skywalker couldn’t get the X wing fighter to
come up out of the swamp, Luke said “that’s impossible” Yoda said “that is
why you fail”. This whole generation thinks everything is impossible, and that
is why they fail. Other than coming up with newer Smart phones, and tablets
every few years, what has the 20 to 35′s accomplished in exploring space
physically? Nothing. They are too afraid and think it’s all impossible on paper,
and in computer simulations. So, they all sit around and tell us what our
generation didn’t do, instead of doing anything at all for themselves.
My question to the age group above is: If everything we did is a hoax, why
don’t you get out there and do it for real then and show us how it’s really done?
But we already know the answer, “it’s impossible”, “it can’t be done”. And so
mankind loses the stars and the planets and any hope of exploring other worlds.
Instead, we sit around and dream of how to destroy one another. Carry on..
Nothing to see here folks. Back to what you were NOT doing.
“Jango, have you never gotten on a jet and flown to 40,000 feet into the air
where you can plainly see the curvature of the earth? ”
Look.. don’t waste your time He’s probably just going to say they are spending millions showing movies to fake a round earth in each of the airplane windows.. and that there’s a brainwashing machine in the cockpit of every plane.. and that there’s a big conspiracy of all the NASA people and all the pilots and stewardesses and scientists to “convince you the world is round” And that the Chinese are now also working with the american connspirators through their space program to supply cardboard cutouts of the moon and their moon lander etc etc.
Crackpots like these are just out there to discredit the small percentage of genuine “truthers” who are exposing the legitimate conspiracies that could expose the real threats. And it’s working well. Unfortunately.
You are the universe stupid
In a way yes you are right because the universe is contructed inside your mind as a hologram and the data could just as well come from a rj45 newtwork card as your ears and eyes (would be better if it did)
DNA is computer code and our minds use electric in nurons and scientist can not only read parts our memory using advance MRI scanners and computers but are now at the stage where they can write to our minds and stimulate paterns in the brain to aid super fast learning.
The inescapeable conclusion is obvious that we live in some type of computer simulation which means we are all inside the mind of god if you like and this also explans some of the mystic type things we see around us.
Our simulation turns upside down each night and the earth is very much round in our simulation but in memory it could all be one dimention (1D) as in just a byte stream of data.
The table in front of you is as real as a door a player needs to open in Call of Duty (COD) and in well written games if you shoot someone in front of a door then all the blood will splatter all over the door and everyone else in the game will see it.
Gravity works in games and yet man is still trying to explan it and players can even die as stuppid as it sounds but this does not mean that some type of ET is having fun using us as some type of puppet in a game here on earth and he/she/it is the owner of our soles.
Your memory is not written in stone and you can visit a nut doctor and come away with implanted memorys or if you are in one mood and vist a memory in your mind then that to some degree changes the memory so don’t trust your memory too much,it’s not read only, write once and this is why the mind is such a funny thing
NOTHING is what you think it is!
The ONLY purpose for this life & the only [ONLY] thing that matters is whet you do with these ELEVEN [ 11 !!!] words!
1-4 In the beginning God
5-11 Who do YOU say that I am???
This life is simply a test of heart!
In 100 trillion, billion, [Of course we will be outside this time/space dimension so this is just a "parable"
.]
million “years” nothing will matter EXCEPT what you did with those 11 words!
Actually there are many True Believers who haven’t built a good construct [Putting it ALL together!] of the universe, but if they have accepted the free [to everyone] gift of eternity & life, they’ll have time to understand.
Course the atheist is the most truly blind and ignorant person on the planet!
So who made god ?
I cannot build nothing without something so where did all this something come from for god to build anything and save the religious BS and answers like “God works in misterious ways”
How can god be all knowing, all seeing if he is physical as such ?
Yes we might all exsist in the mind of god but god is a computer simulation and like us he was not created from nothing unless you want to have your cake and eat it because if god did not need a creator then we didn’t right !
Our DNA is computerr code and our brains work like computers so who’s saying that gods does not work like that but just bigger, faster, better ?
Why did god create us would be a good question at this stage and some will say that he did it because he got borded and needed someone to talk to and split his mind in to two and the two of them liked it so much that they decided to split there computer resources into millions so by making me and you.
I am not sure but this says to me that god is not free and is a trapped just like we are in this current computer simulation and maybe when you dream you enter another simulation that does not have the same laws of physics as we have here on earth.
God gave me logic as a tool and my logic does not run with a book that was written by man 2000 years ago and many of the gosbals it was based upon controdicted each other.
“This life is simply a test of heart!”
So if i breed bit bulls i expect them to fight and if i breed sheep i don’t expect them to fight so where is the test of heart in that one when the dog needs to fight or dies ?
it’s not that simple and you know it but without faith you fear death because you have in your mind this place were you are burned to bits over an open fire for the next billion years they call hell and want to think that if you kiss gods left toe then you will get a billion years of bliss right !
Use you logic, clear you head of religion and work backwards from what you think “Heaven” would be like to find some real answers and not what you local vicor says he thinks the words that made it into the bible or koran means.
I think they are testing to see if BIN can be used to completely distort the truth that has been known for centuries. To see if they can turn the clock 300 years back. And to find out how many people can actually be fooled into it. Interesting!!!! Galileo, Copernicus and Newton will turn in their graves.
Foolish people!!!!
So, because you don’t understand physics, it must be wrong? that’s the most red neck american answer I have ever heard. You sir win the award for ignorance.
I cannot believe that someone is stupid enough to believe any of the “proofs” in this “article.” How does this person even know to breathe?????
Some people are going by bicycle around the world, I don’t know how they do it. Keshe is also planning soon to fly by his car, may be he can check also if the earth is flat. People are making some Keshe Magrav Power Units by themselves, and Keshe always speaks that he has modelled his magrav according the round earth theory. And Keshe Fans are Healing People, how they could have it, if the earth would be flat://beforeitsnews.com/beyond-science/2016/01/keshe-fans-healing-people-and-doomsayers-get-out-2450054.html. More on http://www.keshefoundation.org/
The most pathetic are the people who just say they do not care whether it is round or flat for they have surrendered their free will long ago. This pathetic sheep is ok with being shorn when Masa wants him or her shorn. They are a slave both in labor as well as thought.
Right on
2 kings 23:5 And he put down the idolatrous priests, whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense in the high places in the cities of Judah, and in the places round about Jerusalem; them also that burned incense unto Baal, to the sun, and to the moon, and to the planets, and to all the host of heaven.
The word planet here should be translated constellations. This is the only place in the Bible that the KJV uses the word planet. And it is speaking of the idolatrous priests who were offering incense to these heavenly bodies. Obviously, not God fearing people. This in no way means that God created planets, because in Genesis, the word planet is not mentioned. Only the earth, sun, moon, and stars.
What if gravity doesn’t exist and the force we feel is actually the planet slowly expanding? Definitely would explain the continental drift.
Jango it’s so nice to see someone that commets on this forum making a post and it’s not being pushed of the front page in seconds and some of what you say i can related too.
WELL DONE LAD