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The Trump administration recently (February) requested that NASA put astronauts on the next mission that goes 1000 miles past the moon. They came back to Trump, and said they can’t do it. Not only that, the entire program is way behind, and is going to cost $1 billion per mission, when Musk’s new Falcon Heavy costs $90 million per mission, (about a 90% savings). 

So, one must ask, if we put men on the moon back in 1969, almost 50 yrs ago, why is it that we can’t man this mission?

In February, at the request of the Trump administration, NASA began studying whether it was possible to add crew for the first flight of its Space Launch System, a heavy-lift rocket under development for deep space missions.

On Friday, the space agency announced it would not. During a conference call with reporters, Robert M. Lightfoot Jr., the acting NASA administrator, said the change was technically feasible, but that the additional cost, time and risks outweighed the benefits. 

Newt Gingrich, the former House speaker who has advised President Trump on various issues including space, described the Space Launch System as less capable than the Saturn 5 rocket that took astronauts to the moon in 1969, yet far more expensive.

“The handwriting is on the wall,” Mr. Gingrich said. “Those kinds of programs are going to look stupid.”

Where is the audit of NASA? They seem to be going backwards in technology. 

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    • K¡llúḿ¡ńàṫ¡✝☪ ॐ ﷲ ✡

      2Pac – In this world where everyone lies, White man’s world :wink:
      If it’s true, you can see it with your eyes (Flat Earth) Platte Aarde :eek:
      Don’t Suck Nasa Cock :lol: Don’t Suck Satan Cock :wink: Don’t Suck Government Cock :lol:
      Damian Marley – The Earth was flat if you went too far you would fall off, Now the Earth is round. :arrow:
      If the shape change again everybody woulda start laugh, The average man can’t prove of most of the things :idea:

    • Man

      America #1!!! except when they do something that makes them #1. Because then it is a Hoax

      • Anonymous

        Trick? What is the going pay to get on these Goyim’ nuts? Get down on them. Troll-zio-fag, or stupid punk.

        • Wity

          A Good Zioinist holding Trumps NWO 666 Dic

    • beLIEve

      NASA LIES – NASA in HEBREW means “TO DECEIVE” …. in Plain Sight for ALL to SEE …

    • Wity

      Fly Me To The Moon ~ Ha ha ha ha….

      Fact :- No Human Being Can Survive Past The van Allens Belt…

      And that for those that want to argue~ this is why the IIS stays at its 300 + – mile trajectory above the Earth…

      The only way deep space travel can become possible is if CERN Sponsored by Satan gets control over the God Particle and turns its current open one directional worm hole from the demonic abyss into a two way street….

      And then you might have some very interesting visitor’s

      • Andy

        the ignorance is strong with this one

        the van allen belts are not contiguous, one can fly through the thin parts or the gaps, which is exactly what the original moon missions did – why? because they had rockets powerful enough and fuel a plenty to do so

        you do realise the Saturn 5 rocket was the most powerful rocket ever built and is several times more powerful than anything we’ve got today

        • LifeIs

          Ah the know-it-alls who don’t know anything. I wondered when they would show up.

          1. About the 2013 Van Allen probes report, and specifically the electron belt: “…fluxes of particles in the radiation belts can change by up to a factor of 1000 in a matter of hours or less.”

          UNPREDICTABLE if you are planning a rocket launch…or a return trip.

          2. NO the Saturn rocket did not have power or fuel to maneuver around radiation belts. They went directly to the plane of the Moon’s orbit.

          They STAYED in that plane.

          At the time, we believed the BS that there was only a short time of exposure. Now we understand that NASA could not anticipate the intensity/location of the electron belt (s) at any given time.

          Good grief Andy use your head. It’s been 45 years since anybody pretended to fly beyond low Earth orbit. Why do you suppose that is?

          3. Photographic film. We know from our LRO that the Moon’s surface is 30% to 40% more radioactive than we were told before.

          Google search has managed to disappear the science magazine articles i used to link to. But here one of them is quoted.

          ‘”The moon is a source of radiation,” said Boston University researcher Harlan Spence, the lead scientist for LRO’s cosmic ray telescope. “This was a bit unexpected.”‘

          ‘Overall, future lunar travelers face a radiation dose 30 percent to 40 percent higher than originally expected, Spence said.’

          Those are gamma rays and sub-atomic particles produced by fission that occurs, when cosmic rays impact the surface. How did we not know this until 2009, Andy?

          Add that to solar neutrons and X rays, and the X rays produced when high energy electrons strike metal.

          You remember Skylab? I do. They had a lead-lined vault for their photographic film. And they stayed in low Earth orbit.

          Here are some more Van Allen probes links for you.

        • Balthazar Domeena

          you realize germans made the most powerful rocket and still have the most powerful, russia was in space first then alliens as youd call them came to talk and warn what would happen as soon as humanity hit space and traveled to other worlds, then on Gia here you humans didn’t listen to the warnings from the emerther race and instead listend to the war side thoughts of the greys as you call them a deal no space travel but all the power you can handle for letting them steal humans, a few emertherians stayed and kept watch over this planet and the ones living here we still are here not as many on ground as before but soon are ships will be back and with a gift for humans that are worthy and have found the path of light and enlightenment. i am Azrealatia but simply put i am Azreal i am from the time of Gia being formed i will be long past the end.

        • Wity

          Andy my son , looks like you had a ” failed ” school education ….
          Let me help you right…

          The Van Allens Belt Protects The Earth Boetie otherwise everything on Earth would be toast…..

          Its whats outside the van Allen’s belt that is so bloody dangerous to humans…
          IE :- quarks, nutrinoes the sun and other suns uv radiation ~ the list is endless
          not to mention extreme heat and cold…
          and the invisible force of warped space etc etc….

          Just one solar flare would cook any spaceman into a specimen…


          The reason for CERN/STARGATE to which we suspect has opened a worm hole to the dark side ~ some say they have opened the abyss/ pit to the demonic side…..

      • No time

        Moon, Mother, Matrimony, Maternal, Monarchy, Honey Moon, Money, Moon Shine, etc..

      • BatMan17

        WHAT??? OK I do not get why people can believe the one way view of “We cannot survive in the Van Allen Belt” and that is enough evidence to go with we never went to the moon. You are all the exact same lot that constantly claims aliens are here and have been and have been involved in everything in a manipulative fashion, giving us TECH that is ridiculous in ability but you also believe the military used the shambles Apollo missions to achieve the moon mission. Basically they likely went to the moon, simply NOT with the shambles tech you guys believe they claimed to use in the Apollo program. That crap was a cover for how they really did it and there is the likely detail that enabled them to get there. Use of tech that you and I don’t know about is how not the stuff they tell us about.

        • LifeIs

          BatMan17 that is disproved by what i posted above.

          If we had BEEN to the Moon, we’d have known what we learned in 2009 and 2013.

    • Andy

      moon hoax? rotflmao

      is that why the Chinese moon orbiter is taking photos of the original landing sites?

      must be the flathead religtards come out of their asylum again

      • LifeIs

        Chinese? You mean the one with 1.3 meter picture resolution? Every dot in the picture is at least that big.

        Our own LRO had half-meter resolution.

        I hate to get all logical on you, but if you could distinguish a lunar lander from a rock, with that resolution, and you can’t, you still haven’t shown that the lunar lander had people on it when it landed.

        They didn’t have people on them.

      • No time

        China is under complete control of the Rothschild’s, so they are just playing their part of the NWO Satanic Agenda. The same with North Korea, just another NWO puppet playing the boogey man, to convince the World we need to keep spending Billions on the Military Industrial Complex. Any World leader that turns on the Rothschild Dynasty, ends up like Kaddafi or Chaves.

    • The Watcher

      THE REAL REASON: Aliens warned, ‘Go past the orbit of Earth, YOU VAPORIZE!’.

      • DK

        Change 3 landed in the Mare Imbrium according to the wiki Apollo 15 landed there which was the first use of the moon buggy, the rovers may never be able to get to the site even after 4 years attempting to cross the lunar surface and with the lack of evidence since 2013 of the very landing you claim. the rover has never visited the Apollo site. The Chinese claim from orbital photographs that no Apollo landing took place, they landed just too far away to prove it.

    • David Gordon

      There is no statute of limitations for fraud. Trump was jerking their chain. When you drain the swamp it is easiest to start with the puddles.

    • 2QIK4U

      NAZA bragged for years that the computer technology that took niel Armstrong had less capabilities than a calculator from the 80,s so the old Nokia 5110 and the original double screen donkey Kong games had more computing power than the Apollo missions! Also they claim to have lost all telematry data which is impossible anyway as the radiation would of eaten the film. So basically the television footage the entire planet saw on television could not of happened as the signal couldn’t of penetrated the radiation field of the van Allen belt.. Let alone our ionosphere

      • 2QIK4U

        Excellent ask from trump. I sense he’s suspicious as hell. With today’s knowledge of metallurgy it should be no problem today to pass through the belt during a solar minimum. I have excellent footage of astronots inspecting a lunar building after they exit an orb floats over to less than five metres from the camera. It’s Russian footage. We have been to the moon now but niel Armstrong wasn’t the first person on the moon.

      • LifeIs

        Ah I was wondering when the disinformation trolls would show up, to make us look ridiculous by association.

        Of course it’s a problem to pass through the radiation belts. That’s why nobody does it.

        Telemetry is data transmitted by radio. So is television. The electrons and protons of the belts do not stop them.

        The flight controllers were looking at the same computer simulations they used in training.

        • Central Scrutinizer

          Given up on Planet X and focusing on the Moon now, Capt. PE?

          All of your former ‘dates of impending Doom’ have been wrong, and the creepy kids story didn’t exactly pan out, did it? That’s OK, I still have some pink salt in reserve if you want to consume any more wardrobe pieces…. :mrgreen:

          • LifeIs

            Wow. That post reeks of desperation, Central.

            We’ve seen the 2009 LRO data, and the 2013 Van Allen probes data. All the king’s horses and all the king’s men can’t make Apollo real again.

            Apollo was a hoax, one of many psychological warfare hoaxes, perpetrated by the governments of the US and UK, with the bought-and-paid-for collaboration of other governments. See “The Great Grain Robbery” (note it came at the end of the Moon program.) And note that the Soviet Union returned an Apollo capsule to us in late 1970. Which they found in the ocean.

            To your other topic: The children visited by Mary, May 13 through October 13, 1917, were not in any way “creepy.”

            Except they told us something that you don’t want to know. Or you don’t want other people to know.

            All the king’s disinfo trolls can’t buy any more time. 12,000 years ago, give or take some centuries, we had our last encounter with the charge field of Planet X. The tilt of our axis was changed by that.

            And it is going to happen again. When Pope John 23rd read the message from Mary, per Lucia Santos, he said, “It’s not for our (his) time.” He sealed the contents, “probably forever.”

            Pope John Paul II gave reasons for keeping it secret, in 1980, in conversation at Fulda. And he built the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope in 1993.

            Father Malachi Martin gave us the reason for the VATT and gave us the time frame, from having read the message.

            Mary intended for the information to be public in 1960. We would be able to understand it then, she told Lucia. The Roman Catholic Church has kept the information secret, apart from the Father Martin leak, and the comments by John Paul II.

            And here we are, at the centennial that Father Martin said was the latest possible time for the “incoming object” to bring about a global catastrophe, “worse than you could imagine.”

            There is no more time before the centennial to guess about. We’re in the centennial itself.

            You’ve been seeing the effects of Planet X’s charge field for several years now. And you’re about to see the big dramatic axis tilt.

            • BEEF SUPREME

              Yeah, Screw…

              You’re about to see the rEALLy big dramatic effects of this thing.

              Right about…



              Oh crap.




            • BEEF SUPREME

              (…well then any minute. Father Martin said so. And so did The Three Little Kids. Just you wait and see.)

            • LifeIs

              Beef Supreme have you noticed the meteors past few years, and the asteroids burning up?

              When you see so many flying right past us, and so many actually hitting the atmosphere, you need to realize there are more that are not so close.

              A lot of junk has been pushed in this direction, by the charge field of Planet X. It’s kind of Biblical, remember Revelation 16:21 ?

              “…And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent…”

              And about that scorching sun, have you kept up with the increased UV light lately?

              Just curious, what ARE you going to say, when the Earth tilts, and maybe turns upside down? The ancient Chinese and the ancient Egyptians who lived through it, last time, handed down accounts of it.

            • BEEF SUPREME

              “Just curious, what ARE you going to say, when the Earth tilts, and maybe turns upside down?”

              We’ll never know, Ralph.

              “The ancient Chinese and the ancient Egyptians who lived through it, last time, handed down accounts of it.”

              Bunkum. I’m well versed with the fanatical musings of Igor Velikovski — or whatever his name was. Now there’s a fella who suffered from confirmation bias.

              You’d have more moxie to simply admit you were wrong and should never have wasted your time believing fantastical Catholic crackpotology.

            • LifeIs

              Beef Beef it’s the Age of Computers. You don’t have to get your information filtered by some guy who had to page through books on a library shelf.

              (Immanuel Velikovsky did his work pre-internet. You can be reading Herodotus and Chinese legends in seconds.)

              (Immanuel Velikovsky was preceded by Ignatius Donnelly, by the way.)

              I saw how the Cult of Clinton reacted to losing an election. Hysteria. Panic. Rage. Denial.

              I’m guessing you will be likewise lost, when your normalcy bias becomes untenable. Because unfortunately for you, and several billion others, and some wildlife besides….the axis shift we had 12,000 years ago, or thereabouts, is going to be repeated. Adios.

            • BEEF SUPREME

              “I’m guessing you will be likewise lost, when your normalcy bias becomes untenable.”

              Right. As you’ve been guessing now for a long time, Ralph. All of your personal timeline guarantees notwithstanding.

              “You can be reading Herodotus and Chinese legends in seconds.”

              And you should know better than to assume that I haven’t. (And you do know better) But of course, you should also know better than to develop an entire life-model crafted around Catholic fantasies and the drunk grumblings of disgraced papists. Its a wonder Martin could even string together a coherent sentence. Perhaps he had a ghost writer.

              “I saw how the Cult of Clinton reacted to losing an election. Hysteria. Panic. Rage. Denial.”

              Is that what it’s like evenings at Casa de Ralph? Once you draw the curtains and dim the lanterns, do you really commence carrying on like a jilted Democrat because your beloved wandering planet stood you up in spectacular fashion?

              It doesn’t bother you at all that you’ve lumped yourself in with the chin-dribbling moonstruck webaticks who think the Earth is flat, the sky is made of glass and aliens live in the White House basement, does it…

              Well it should.

              Enjoy the fruits of your own labor, Ralph!!

            • Central Scrutinizer

              Right about…



              Pink Salt Capt. PE? We can all toast your newest “Date”, which I’m searching for in your tirade and shockingly, it didn’t seem to post??? WTF?


            • THOTH

              Gentlemen, if I may.

              Roughly 13000 years ago, the last of my homeland was devoured by the sea. Indeed, this was caused by a shift in earth’s axis. However, this shift was not caused by the effects of an encroaching celestial body. No, one of our northern colonies was experimenting with a new technology, designed to harness and direct the unlimited power stored in the ionosphere. We warned that not all the kinks had been worked out, and that using this technology in close proximity to the polar regions, could cause the earth to shift on its axis.

              The northern colonies did not heed the warning and when they fired up the system, a tremendous concentration of heat was directed on to the northern polar region of the earth. In response, the earth itself produced frigid temperatures to balance the heat. Similar to the idea of a nuclear winter. A massive ice sheet was formed, resulting in disproportionate weight distribution, causing the earth to shift on its axis.

            • LifeIs

              Oh yes, the manned Moon landings were a hoax, perpetrated by government and the media, and over 2/3 of the public was not skeptical.

              At the time. And people, including me, ignored all the indications that it was a hoax. To be fair, they were buried in straw man disinformation and ad hominem appeals.

              We couldn’t prove the whole thing was a hoax until 37 years later.

              What can we learn from this?

              Beef and Central? Bueller ? Anyone?

              How about the government and its media are very good at deceiving you.

              And when they say, “nothing to see here, it’s just the ignorant and the superstitious speaking,” it’s time to gulp down some coffee and wake up.

              I’ve spent a lot of time explaining exactly how the US government buried the evidence of Planet X affecting the outer planets. How they buried the evidence of Planet X affecting the trajectories of our interplanetary probes.

              I’ve talked about the dramatic increase in meteorites and small asteroids in our vicinity. I’ve talked about anomalous tides and waves.

              Other changes to our solar system have been reported on by others.

              You think I didn’t know, when asked to guess the very date of the next axis tilt shift, the tactic being employed? I don’t care.

              We don’t know exactly what Lucia Santos’ letter said, we only have it characterized for us. The Fatima appearances themselves were spread out, so we wouldn’t have a single day to focus on. But the centennial is happening now. There’s no more time to look at what governments are doing (mostly they are busy keeping you distracted.)

              The time has come, the walrus said,
              To talk of many things,
              Of shoes and ships and sealing-wax,
              Of cabbages and kings…

              Let’s see: Sealing wax, check. Cabbages, check.

            • THOTH

              (Black Comets Matter)

              Upon statistical analysis, it has been determined that in incidents involving collisions between White comets and Black comets, the latter is the aggressor in 80% of documented cases.

              Not to mention, Black comets collide with each other, far more often than other comets collide with them.

              For every Black comet that gets disintegrated by law enforcement comets, there are two White comets that suffer the same fate. The latter is never reported, because it cannot be exploited as “hate crimes” by the celebrity comets, who shape the perception of reality, and facilitate division between the other comets.

              Therefore, Black Comets Matter is just a bunch of unemployed comets, paid by George Soros to riot in heavens.

            • BEEF SUPREME

              As if.

              The entire notion of the cosmos is inherently racist, as proven not only in THOTH’s post, but by what they teach us is the most destructive force in the known universe…

              …the BLACK HOLE.

              (To say nothing of the outrageously racist notion of…

              …DARK MATTER.)

              Ninja, please.

            • LifeIs

              I didn’t lump MYSELF with the assortment of straw men.

              I cannot enjoy the fruits of this labor. Laughing at the brainwashed Clinton cult was mean of me. And in that case nobody died. I can’t be cheerful about the worst calamity in the history of the planet.

              As much fun as it would be to see Beef / Central / Thoth argue with the pole shift itself, neither I nor billions of other creatures will be in a position to enjoy the spectacle. But thank you for offering to entertain me in my last moments.

            • Central Scrutinizer

              ^^^ ” But thank you for offering to entertain me in my last moments.”

              That’s what the pink salt is for Capt. PE!!! I’m just here to provide you a service.
              A hilarious, witty service, but a service none-the-less.


            • THOTH


              Even if everything you said was true, would any amount of worrying stop it from happening? If the whole world understood the information you presented as fact, would any amount of human effort be able to stop a disaster of such magnitude from happening?

              If you knew the exact date that the world as we know it will end, would you live the rest of your days in fear, worrying about something that no amount of human effort can change? If so, why? Fear is a waste of life. I am not afraid. So, I may have to ask you to forgive me for being “cheerful”.

            • BEEF SUPREME

              Your Jedi mind tricks have no effect on Lifeis, THOTH. His mental endowments are much too sophisticated for your line of reasoning.

              I should know. I already tried that angle with him.

              Not so much as a scuff in the armor, I tell ya. Set in his ways and on his current trajectory, is he.

              The course is strong, with this one.

            • Central Scrutinizer

              ^^^”Not so much as a scuff in the armor, I tell ya”.

              [they fight until BEEF SUPREME cuts off Lifels left arm]
              BEEF SUPREME: Now, stand aside, worthy adversary!
              Lifels: ‘Tis but a scratch!
              BEEF SUPREME: A scratch? Your arm’s off!
              Lifels: No, it isn’t!
              BEEF SUPREME: Well, what’s that then?
              Lifels: I’ve had worse.

              [many apologies to Monty Python]… :mrgreen:

            • Central Scrutinizer

              See what I did there? Lifels is the ‘Black Knight’… #BlackCometsMatter…

              MAN, I crack myself up sometimes!!!! :mrgreen:

            • LifeIs

              I didn’t ask you to be afraid, or to stop Planet X in its tracks.

              I just thought you might like to know what is happening to your world.

              It hasn’t happened for 12,000 years, give or take some centuries. It’s kind of a big deal. It will be fatal for a lot of living creatures.

              But hey, if you would rather live in a manufactured dream, until you can’t any more, that’s your business.

        • LifeIs

          If you want to know how NASA could send voice communications OUTBOUND privately, here are some quotes. From Thomas Kelly of Grumman, from Deke Slayton, from Eugene Cernan, and from NASA’s Apollo 9 CM DSE onboard voice transcription.

          See references to “the guarded channel,” and “a private radio loop.” The significance of this follows.

          Below is about anomalies in LAG during Apollo conversations. Where they didn’t pause long enough before speaking. It shows that the astronauts were not at lunar distances.

          Jodrell Bank would be picking up the downlink on the reported frequencies.

          If they are receiving voice transmissions from the Moon, they originated here and were uplinked through the private military (no doubt encrypted) channel.

          Both sides of the conversation would be sent privately UP and relayed back DOWN. That’s why the lag time between capcom and astronaut is not always long enough.

    • Firmament Does Exist

      NASA and SPACE X and not thing more than disinformation and fakery for all the sheeple.

      • wunmansho

        Like most of the federal government NASA is being used for money laundering and the technology the US taxpayer has payed for over the decades is being pilfered over into the ‘private sector’ so there’s no possibility of government oversight.

    • unidentified

      nasa said they were downsizing a few years ago when they decided their space shuttle was too dangerous and became obsolete, they used to complain all the time about having to operate on a shoestring budget

      • LifeIs

        They don’t need more money; they can’t send humans beyond low Earth orbit.

    • TC

      What a hodgepodge video. The intent is clearly to discredit those who challenge some aspects of mainstream science by linking skepticism with crackpot concepts. I’m surprised they didn’t mention leprechauns and pots of gold.

      As a sailor, I can testify the earth is round, that there are stellar objects out there whose position can be used to accurately guide us in our travels. I can testify that the positions of the sun and moon can be used to calculate accurate tide tables. So that part of the video is, by observation, total nonsense.

      As to whether the moon landing is fake, it probably is. It’s hard to say whether we have the technology to actually travel in outer space but having lived through the 60′s in the Houston academic community, it is not likely that the technology we had at the time would have been able to overcome the enormous technological hurdles in that short a time with the primitive materials available in those days. But NASA’s instruction was to land a man on the moon before the end of the decade, and they knew they couldn’t deliver the real thing, so they did the next best thing and made the first realistic Star Wars picture and everybody was happy. Like the theory of global warming, it was bending science to achieve a political agenda.

      But that doesn’t mean everything NASA did was or is fake. Radio telescopes, the Hubble telescope, the Voyager missions are amazing and the results they have achieved are genuiine because they are consistent with results achieved all over the world and in accordance with the results of repeatable science experiments performed in countless laboratories.

      The video also mentions aliens, demons and God. These concepts should not be mixed with science because they imply dimensions that cannot be subjected to logic or tested by experiment. They may be just as real, perhaps even more so, but they belong in a completely different category of thought.

      • Nanar

        A person of reason here… OMG !! Run friend run !!

        As for the moon landing, it’s also possible that NASA did send someone over there. But maybe they did not come back.
        After all, Gargarine was not the first man in space, he was the first man in space to come back alive.

        • LifeIs

          Nanar no, and no. There was no reason to send people to the Moon. We could study moon rocks that fell to Earth as meteorites. (We knew that some meteorites were from the Moon as of 1963.) We could deploy instruments and bring back samples with unmanned vehicles, as the Soviets did.

          Gagarin’s flight, if you look at what he SAID, supposedly in orbit, it doesn’t match what was supposedly below him, and he spoke of seeing farms and villages, which he could not have seen.

          And he didn’t land IN the space capsule, he landed by parachute, by himself.

          It was a Soviet hoax.

          • Nanar

            Maybe, to be honest I have neither proof for or against.

            Truth is, even if it is easier (and cheaper) to deploy probes, we, the human kin, we like to go places. It is a fundamental need of ours to explore.

            For example, we had no reason to send someone at the bottom of the Mariana trench, a probe would suffice and less risky. Yet, people did go.

    • unidentified

      remember a couple of years ago when obama was asked by nasa to bomb the moon to see if there was any ice there for future drinking water, that was really not a good idea

    • Ste Gre

      Com’ on, people. Put on your thinking caps.

      Russia and China would have had a field day if they knew that Americans never landed on the moon. They monitored the entire trip. Not only the Russians and Chinese, but tens of thousands of amateur radio operators throughout the world also monitored and recorded the communications and even monitored the entire trip using triangulation (except when the spacecraft traveled behind the moon). Do some research starting with a few amateur radio magazines dated during the times of the Apollo missions. CQ and QST come to mind.

      • No time

        Some research will turn up the Great Grain Robbery. The Russians recovered the Apollo 11 Space Capsule from the Ocean and returned it to the Americans. But don’t worry Russia and China faked their own versions too.

      • LifeIs

        Ste Gre the Soviets were bought off. The quid pro quo was– as i noted above, the grain. And our silence about Soviet frauds as noted by No Time. Do some skeptical looking at the Gagarin flight, to start with.

        And yes the Soviets returned an Apollo capsule to us in late 1970.

        And dude, are you KIDDING me? Radio transmissions are routed, bounced, relayed from one place to another every minute of every day. Satellite TV comes from Earth you know, there are no astronauts up there sending it down. The relay of communication through unmanned satellites is ohhh 55 years or so old.

        • Ste Gre

          You really need to learn more about amateur radio before spouting off things you really don’t know anything about like how radio waves work and how one can pick up one frequency and not others.

          As for your last sentence, communication satellites are launched every year, but the frequencies never change.

          • LifeIs

            Ste Gre what on Earth are you talking about? Do you imagine you are making a point? A relevant point?

            I’ll spell it out for you. Unmanned vehicles were sent to lunar orbit and to lunar landings. Voice communications, from here, were relayed through them. Back to here.

            The system was TESTED in advance of the hoax landing, by means of a moon-orbiting satellite. Which was supposedly shut down in advance of the hoax landings.

            We had several LROs in the sixties, but this was specifically a communications relay satellite.

            I’d look it up for you, but I don’t know what you’re trying to say. Or what you think you know.

            • Ste Gre

              Learn how triangulation works. We, as amateur radio operators, can find people who use the airwaves illegally. We can also find illegal operators even if they are transmitting through repeaters (much like relay satellites).

              Again, for your knowledge, learn about what amateur radio operators and do BEFORE you further spout out your ignorance.

            • Central Scrutinizer

              Ohhhhhhhhhhhh…. It ain’t just me Biatch-Slapping Capt. PE!!!! WOW. :mrgreen:

            • LifeIs

              Ste Gre if you want to know how NASA could send voice communications OUTBOUND privately, here are some quotes. From Thomas Kelly of Grumman, from Deke Slayton, from Eugene Cernan, and from NASA’s Apollo 9 CM DSE onboard voice transcription.

              See references to “the guarded channel,” and “a private radio loop.” The significance of this follows.


              Below is about anomalies in LAG during Apollo conversations. Where they didn’t pause long enough before speaking. It shows that the astronauts were not at lunar distances.


              Triangulation has nothing to do with any of this. An amateur would be picking up the downlink on the reported frequencies.

              If they are receiving voice transmissions from the Moon, they originated here and were uplinked through the private military (no doubt encrypted) channel.

              And since you’re kind of slow, I’ll have to explain: BOTH sides of the conversation would be sent privately UP and relayed back DOWN. That’s why the lag time between capcom and astronaut is not always long enough.

              You would do well to stay on topic.

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