The Grave Danger of Missing the Rapture
Jude 18
18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
By Pastor Joseph Chambers / Paw Creek Ministries
There is no truth that shakes me to the core like the multitude soon to miss the Rapture. You cannot read the many warnings in Scripture more plain than how the Holy Spirit has almost begged us to be prepared. Over and over the prophets and writers were led to warn us. Look at these words of Jesus Christ. “Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.” (Matthew 24: 40-42)
When I was saved in 1952, the church world was on fire with the warnings. As time has elapsed the message has grown too stark to preach. People will literally leave a church over this level of warning. The comfort zone is so high and satisfying that people do not want to be bothered. Today we start a new series on the subject “The Grave Danger of Missing the Rapture.” Here is a list of the next seven broadcasts after today:
- The Grave Danger of Missing the Rapture
- Great Revival Immediately After the Rapture
- Satan’s War on the Repentant Multitude
- A World Culture of Sodomy
- Invasion from the Bottomless Pit
- The Seven Trumps of the Great Tribulation
- The Wicked at the White Throne Judgment
- The Bridal Celebration
The saddest words of tongue or pen are the gripping words, “it could have been”. The multitude that suddenly realizes that Jesus Christ has raptured the Bride and that they are “left behind” will experience an utter feeling of hopelessness. Despair and gloom will be so shattering that great numbers of men and women will commit suicide. Millions of knowledgeable people that knew the Bible well, but rejected “the love of the truth” (II Thessalonians 2:10) will immediately experience the complete withdrawal of Holy Ghost conviction. Instantly, they will know that they are damned to spend eternity in the Lake of Fire. Millions of others that rejected Truth will be so deluded that they will actually worship the new false Christ.
Evil of the darkest form is presently held behind the omnipresent wall of the Holy Ghost. The devil and his cohorts are working; they are deceiving, creating havoc, and spreading diseases of every description. The level of their activities is great but they are still limited. Just as soon as the Rapture occurs, this wall of restraint will be gone. If you are sickened by the vulgarity that pervades the world now, please know that the present is mild compared to the future. Laws against anyone with moral outrage will soon protect sodomy in public. There will be no restraints against sin.
Multitudes will be heard screaming in fear and dismay, “I could have gone in the Rapture if I would have listened to the call.” The last echoes of those confused about the Rapture and the coming baptism of filth will have faded. The days for debate will be over. The whole world will be divided between the lovers of the new “christ” and the great company of those left behind who are now ready to be martyred for Jesus Christ. The countdown to Armageddon will begin. Preachers that were deceived by the One World Religion will lead the armies that are determined to establish the kingdom of their god (the false god) on earth. The crusades of the past, which were led by Jesuit priests, will pale in comparison to this brutal onslaught for the “New Inclusive Religion.”
Preachers and leaders that would not hear the truth about the Pre-tribulation Rapture, but hated those of us that preached and taught that truth, will now know how wrong they were. Jesus will only Rapture those saints of God and Bride-ready believers looking for Him. The Word of God is plain: “So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Hebrews 9:28) If you are not looking for Him and longing for Him with great passion, do not expect Him to come for you. Apostle Paul wrote to Titus and encouraged him by declaring, “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.” (Titus 2:13-14)
Can you imagine the anger of careless souls that were taken in by the vicious haters of the Biblical Rapture before the great Seven Years of Wrath? The Rapture haters that I deal with on the radio, the internet, and in person are not even kind about this debate. The spirit that motivates them to fight against this hope is extremely loud and dark. In almost every case, they are also anti-Semitic and have an equal desire to trash everything and everyone that is Jewish. A great company of previous lovers of the Pre-tribulation Rapture has been affected by these confused souls. I believe there will be such anger against these deceivers that it will be like war between many of those “left behind.”
I do not believe that most ministers and Bible teachers have any concept of the millions that are within “Christian” ranks who are going to be “left behind.” The cheap grace that is presently being preached is scary to consider. Sin has been so coddled by this generation that “Raptured Saints” in most minds are nothing but a conglomerate of a mixed multitude. Why don’t we consider what the Lord Jesus and the Holy Ghost-filled writers of the Holy Bible said? Grace never covers sin; grace cleanses sin, and this one statement is the answer. Every soul that has been cleansed from sin, preserved by His sanctification, and kept by the Holy Ghost will be gone in a single moment.
Jesus told beautiful parables about the Bride and the coming of the Bridegroom. He stated, “And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. For many are called, but few are chosen.” (Matthew 22:11-14)
Revelation 3
15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
How can we doubt the clear requirement for a pure Bride dressed in the white garments of holiness? This Bride is made up of the unspotted company of totally dedicated saints that have forsaken all to follow Jesus. He goes even further in a latter parable in Matthew’s Gospel. His words are shattering. “Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. But the wise answered, saying Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open to us.’ But he answered and said, ‘Verily I say unto you, I know you not.’ Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.” (Matthew 25:1-13) There will be no place in this great Rapture for those that are lukewarm and without the oil and fire of the Spirit.
There are not two Bridegrooms, two Brides, or two Kingdoms in the Kingdom of God. Those that try to remove these great parables from the study of the Rapture are sadly confused. While I am a Biblical dispensationalist, I am not a hyper-dispensationalist. The Bible is written as a simple book. We do not need to be a Greek or Hebrew scholar to know and interpret this great Book. Just take the Bible literally and let each truth interpret itself. If He says Bride or Bridegroom, He is talking about the Bride and the Bridegroom. Dispute that at your own peril and confusion.
The Book of Revelation! The last Book in the Bible is a perfect chronological picture of the prophetic end and the final word on the future. The Rapture occurs at the beginning of Chapter Four and the saints are never called the “Church” again. They are called “Elders” from Revelation Four until they become His “Army” when they return with Him to set up the Millennial Kingdom on earth. The only two chapters that deal with the church are Chapters Two and Three. The subject of the church in those two chapters has a very narrow focus. The espoused Bride of Jesus Christ and the promises relating to the Rapture and their connection is the primary thought. All seven letters are a competed whole as it concerns our holiness and faithfulness to Him. He clearly shows us what He expects of us and what He requires if we are to be His espoused Bride. He does not tolerate unfaithfulness.
Just like you and I would not allow our bride to play the harlot, He does not allow His Bride to play the harlot. Playing the harlot against our human bride or bridegroom is extremely evil but nothing close to the evil of playing the harlot against Jesus Christ, our Eternal Bridegroom. Men in today’s world may champion the cheapness of grace that has flooded the church world. That is close to blasphemy to the Holy God and His Holy Son and it will not stand the fire of the Judgment Seat of Jesus Christ.
These two chapters of Revelation are all you need to study to prove that His Bride will be holy or she will never be at the nuptial event in the Paradise of God. The standard for that wedding is spotless purity. It would be impossible to enter the Heavenly Jerusalem, where Holiness is the transcending culture, in the dress of vulgarity and the lifestyle of compromise now dominating the church world. Imagine transporting an entire “religious rock” church congregation and performers en-mass right onto the streets of New Jerusalem. The Holiness of God permeating that golden city would be a devouring fire and all that would be left would be the smell of Shekinah smoke.
Colossians 3
4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
6 For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
These seven letters are the last words of Jesus Christ to His church. They are intimate letters of the glorified Christ, and they are perfect in declaring the truth about the church. The Lord Himself by His Spirit is walking in the midst of His church. Remember what He said, “For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.” (Matthew 18:20) These are not the words of an absent landlord. He is the Head and we are the body, and He knows every nerve of this body and every thought of our minds. “For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” (Hebrews 4:12)
This judgment of His church as is written in these seven letters is as current as tomorrow. He talks about our “faithfulness” three (3) times; our “works” twelve (12) times; our “tribulation” three (3) times; our “labor, patience, and poverty” one (1) time each. He commands that we “hold fast” four (4) times, “repent” seven (7) times, and promises every promise only to the “overcomers” seven (7) times. These are not idle letters. It’s serious business and He is willing to eliminate anyone that fails His test after He gives them space to repent.
Three times He promises to remove those that refuse His final warnings. In the letter to Ephesus He said, “Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.” (Revelation 2:5) In the Thyatira letter He warned, “And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.” (Revelation 2:21-22) To the Laodiceans He declared, “I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor not: I would thou wast cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of my mouth.” (Revelation 3:15-16)
Preachers may preach that sin is covered for the believers without repentance and forsaking of these sins all they please, but they are false prophets and all that believe them will be judged with them. These kinds of ministers are spiritual dogs lapping up their own vomit. “But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.” (2 Pet. 2:22) All seven of these letters are talking about nothing but the saints of God, His church body, and His requirements for the Rapture and Brideship. He is preparing His Bride and she will be holy. For two thousand years, the great saints have sacrificed themselves on the altar of an exceeding hope for this honor of being His Bride. This is the first generation among those that claim to believe the entire Word of God to live like the Bible is a fantasy book. It will all end in insane despair when the “left behind” are numbered.
The last words in each letter clarify the Rapture and Bridal promises as well as warn of the limited numbers of the triumphant ones. He almost begs His espoused Bride “Hear what the Spirit is saying to the church.” In each case, He warns that the promises are reserved only for “those that overcome…” “To him that overcometh…” (Revelation 2:7); “He that overcometh…” (Revelation 2:11); “To him that overcometh…” (Revelation 2:17); “And he that overcometh…” (Revelation 2:26-29); “He that overcometh…” (Revelation 3:5-6); “Him that overcometh…” (Revelation 3:12-13); and “To him that overcometh…” (Revelation 3:22) How could anyone doubt the weightiness of these words? We would have to call the Bible untrustworthy to deny that the Rapture is a very limited event. Many writers and teachers make you think that the exodus from the church will be massive and almost everyone. The church world will be out of business but not out of people.
1 Thessalonians 4
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
A majority of churches will be dangerous as this new “Christ” is worshiped en-mass. That crowd will be glad we are gone. The churches that accept the truth that they have missed the Rapture will be outlawed shortly after the saints are gone. They will be out of business as this new “Christ” marshals his army of Secret Service agents to require the “Mark” and sets forth his New World Religion. Millions of Tribulation saints will be martyred and they will cry forth from beneath the altars of death for the vengeance of God on the cruel and bloodthirsty mobs that roam the earth. “And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?” (Revelation 6:9-10)
These seven letters give us the perfect picture of all that awaits the Bride of Christ. Jesus plainly promised this incredible future to us by His Spirit, speaking through Apostle Paul. The Spirit said, “But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.” (I Corinthians 2:9-10) There is no doubt that this is referring to the seven letters and promises given in Revelation Two and Three. Our future is heavenly if we are willing to forsake all and follow Him. Remember what Jesus with His own lips said, “And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel’s, But he shall receive a hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.” (Mark 10:29-30)
Let me show you that all seven promises are a part of the Bride’s future. The Bride of Christ is the highest of all eternal rewards. The city of New Jerusalem is prepared for the Bride so that her adornment may be for her Bridegroom. “And I John saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.” (Revelation 21:2) Those that are saved but not part of the Bride shall enjoy the city, even glory in the city, and bring their honor to the city; but it is not their eternal home.
John said, “And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honor into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. And they shall bring the glory and honor of the nations into it.” (Revelation 21:24-26)
Now, look at these seven promises to His overcoming Bride: 1. “He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit smith unto the churches; to him that overcomes will I give to eat of the tree of life which is in the midst of the paradise of God.” 2. “Fear none of those things which thou salt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days; be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.” 3. “He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that received it.” 4. “And he that overcometh, and kept my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.” 5. “He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.” 6. “Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.” 7. “To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.” (Revelation 2:7,10,17,26-28; 3:5,12,21) There can be no question but that these seven closing statements are the heritage of His Bride forever.
Left Behind! It’s up to you. “Irresistible Grace” is a doctrine of the Calvinist, but it certainly flies to the wind in these seven letters from the Lord to His church. There is no less than forty-four words in these short letters that cry out for you to “be faithful,” have “patience,” “repent,” “hold fast,” “faint not,” and to be an “overcomer.” You cannot have rewards for your faithfulness unless that faithfulness is out of your heart. God is not a robot and He did not create us to be robots. You can be fully committed and He is fully faithful to crown your commitment with grace.
Jesus uttered some of His most powerful words as recorded by Luke. The Lord said, “And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.” (Luke 21:34-36) Jesus was concerned that you would miss this Hope. If you are “left behind,” it will be the greatest loss of your existence. Give up this world. Sell all that you have to purchase the “Pearl of Great Price.” The Son of God was speaking not only of Himself, but also of the eternal promise of being His Bride when He spoke of this “Pearl of Great Price.” He has called, but only a few will be the chosen. What is your decision? His Bride is without spot or blemish and she will soon be caught away. Malachi recorded words from the Bridegroom when he said, “And they shall be mine, saith the Lord of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels…” (Malachi 3:17a)
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It is true that the Biblical message of repentance and righteous living has been watered down and not talked about much anymore. But the Tribulation following the resurrection/rapture will be a time of testing for the whole world including all those left behind. AT ANY TIME THROUGHOUT THE TRIBULATION THEY CAN STILL REPENT AND TURN TO GOD AND HE WILL ACCEPT THEM. They will NOT spend eternity in the lake of fire because they were lukewarm, they can turn back to God at any time just like Israel did many times in the past. But…..why wait till then. If you are not living for Jesus NOW then what are you waiting for??? Why make it harder for yourself, do you not realize the horrors of the tribulation and how close to it we are? Do you really want to live through that? Get right with God here. http://www.itshisstory.com
and you jingle jambo are one f u judgemental asshole who has a better chance at the fires of hell than most–your as close to god as your best friend,lucifer
This post should be called. THE GREATEST LIE IN HUMANITY PROVEN TO BE A FEARY TALE.
There is no Rapture, pre or post Tribulation…THERE WILL BE NO RAPTURE…Go read the Scripture real Scripture, not made up crap by John Darby, cherry picking passages and re-writing the Bible leaving out passages that do not fit their end goal!!! I SAY AGAIN THERE WILL BE NO RAPTURE THE WORD RAPTURE ISN’T EVEN MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE…Those who preach this false teaching are leading their flocks astray!!!!
One thing you can count on, “But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.” Matthew 24:37 What was happening in the Days of Noah?
Fornication among man and beasts
Fornication among fallen angel and man
Fornication among fallen angel and beast
Giants walked the earth in those days, men of renowned mighty men…
Our world was and is going to be more like Middle Earth LoTR, most of you out there have an awakening that is going to happen…
Also it is the Heart that matters…That is what our true Father will look to…All who are alive will endure the Tribulations….There WILL NOT BE AN ESCAPE….
Joe and John thanks but no thanks I pass you can keep your rupture all to your selves. I will have no part in that satanic con.
Jango, still using that homosexual jesus logo?? One day you will have to answer for that to the real Jesus Christ.
i love it when you bible thumpers give each other hell–i am taking notes and going to pass it along to heavenly father just
incase –you bobtheshithead are one judgemental asshole
THANKS SO MUCH, PASTOR CHAMBERS, FOR PUTTING THIS UP!!!
This is really good….The Rapture may be this year since the Jubilee ends on 29 Sept. Oh, wouldn’t that be amazing if that were the day or the day after, Rosh Hashana, Feast of Trumpets….We’ll see….
Looking so forward to your coming articles….
P.S….this much truth in one place at one time tends to choke the critics…expect a lot of riviling hate from the haters and contempt from the contemptable…expect those who have fallen from grace and have chosen the Law as a path of salvation to say horrible things especially…Ps. 2:2 says, Why do the heathen rage? So expect a lot of rage from the heathen, sorry, that’s part of posting any scriptural truth on BIN…for my part, I encourage and support you…Hooray for the Word of God!
There will be no RAPTURE…It is a fake made up scam….https://vimeo.com/166370782
you jknbt are a certified nut job–and the only rage around here is the bullshit flying around in your empty skull–you invented every “word” of god you ever heard–and if you read it in the bible it was the word of men–not god–god pays zero attention to the bible–was not written by god–homeless dudes in a cave wrote it –god is way above the inclinations of petty,immature insane humans like you and your crazy wife jk n bt–if you represent godliness,you have set the whole movement way back with all your bullshit–your full of crap and maybe the right hand of satan–only god knows
you are like a snotty 15 y.o. boy who stands on the street corner down the road from the jr. high school and shouts insults at everybody that walks by at the end of the day.
it is funny how you weep and howl when someone replies well and puts you in your place. That is like what happens when some victim of your rant gets enough of it and goes over and punches the snotty 15 y.o. in the nose…
will you kindly, finally grow up, please? If you don’t have anything intelligent to say, shut up and go away.
jknbt
P.S….this much truth in one place at one time tends to choke the critics”"
JK it does not choke this critic, the Word of God proves beyond shadow of Doubt there ain’t no such thing as a rapture.
If you would read, which I seriously doubt , I can produce 4, 5 or more papers using the Word of God to prove there is no rapture but there are 3 resurrections.
Folks like you, jango and Rolls will never take the risk to read but I will put one up in a day two.
Do you think you are more loved then the apostles? all but John were killed because they obeyed Christ and lived by His Law — .
there is no rapture for you, since you have fallen from grace, and you are a works/law salvation legalist….
you are reprobate, utterly severed from Christ, and hardened beyond recovery or restoration…poor you.
you will be present for services as usual the sunday after the rapture in your “left behind” legalist hypocrite church…
I won’t be joining you. Have fun! And try to figure out what just happened.
jknbt the first of many papers proving by scripture and logic there ain’t no rapture has just been posted.
I doubt you will read — as the words of Jesus Christ are hard to twist.
Does it not bother you in the entirety of the WORD the term “resurrection” is used and never a rapture?
knnbt start by showing us scriptures stating the reward of the saved is heaven or when we get to heaven or when we meet again in heaven or any such clear statements that are not twisted.
You can not do so!
I have already told you, Truth-Avoider, that I will not be baited into one of your discussions…
jknbt
Good for you, this way you can rest comfortably in your satanic doctrine of a rapture.
Remember, when Christ told the truth to the Pharisees and the attorneys they conspired to kill him.
Ezekiel 3 —As an adamant harder than flint have I made thy forehead: fear them not, neither be dismayed at their looks, though they be a rebellious house.
Jknbt, other than how silly it is to dispute clear teaching of the Bible of a pre-tribulation rapture, I find it interesting how vicious and vile people are who refute the rapture. You have to wonder what they think they accomplish, where any real Christian of truth is concerned, by demonstrating the only way they can present themselves involves evil, demonic behavior, spewing hate for truth and the truthful.
You’ll find on the web that especially any public forum claiming Christian faith is going to have more Satanic activity than even most wholly secular forums, the venom of the fake Christians astounding and just dumb, but, of course, your tare is motivated by a demonic spirit. They post stuff like they have horns and a pitchfork and believe they’re making a point with any authentic Christian?
Notice how I posted scripture yesterday, just clear scripture below regarding the rapture, the word of God, and it also gets voted down, just like you. They vote down very God. The point is, you see by their venom and hatred of the things of God just more validity of the truth, all the time. It’s like liars don’t like the truth. Well, of course! Praise the Lord! The fake Christians are more lame than the atheists in this regard, as they somehow think all their vile sputum and lies are making a Christian argument to anybody of real faith. The fact is, they’re wasting their lives away, posting all their useless comments, as the only people they can possibly fool are other blind and lost, and they are merely scoffers that even fulfill scripture about scoffers, 2 Peter 3:1-4.
Jknbt, have you ever given up one scintilla of scripture truth? Ever? How true is this?
Matthew 15:14 “Let them alone. They are blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind leads the blind, both will fall into a ditch.”
Get concerned if such people like you! Otherwise, rejoice in the Lord the truth stings them, that they have that rage to dispute, that you’ve done something right, when the devil gets his shorts in a bunch. And if they don’t like the doctrine of the blessed hope, there’s really nothing you can say to such people, who will prefer tribulation and scratching each others’ blind eyes out.
I was recently listening to a good sermon involving the rapture, where the pastor pointed out how the devils want us gone from their world, and how we’ve always been just fine with that. In the twinkling of an eye, “Buh bye!” And lots of luck. They’re going to need it.
Otherwise, praise the Lord Jesus, for only He is worthy.
Revelation 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.
How much is it like Esau, selling his birthright for a bowl of soup, for people to go to eternal damnation, over being fools on the web? The devil sure has a lot of cheap dates, doesn’t he?
Paralambano
“Jknbt, other than how silly it is to dispute clear teaching of the Bible of a pre-tribulation rapture,”
Paralambano Here is very clear teaching by our savior Jesus Christ:
Matthew 24
21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Para can the very elect be deceived while in heaven?
Christ states for the elect’s sake the tribulation will be shortened.
What is the point of shorting the tribulation if the elect are protected in heaven??
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
verses 29, 30 and 31 destroy a rapture — immediately after the tribulation – the tribulation is over — and the entire world shall see Christ coming is great power and glory in the clouds — AND THEN CHRIST SENDS HIS ANGELS TO COLLECT THE ELECT FROM ONE END OF HEAVEN — WHILE IN THE CLOUDS’
THE TRIBULATION IS OVER, DONE, FINISHED AND THEN CHRIST SENDS HIS ANGELS TO BRING THE ELECT TO HIM.
Where oh where is the pre-tribulation rupture of the elect i.e. the Saints of God?
You may want to read Zechariah 14: 1 – 9
I will put a 40 page paper on BIN soon using every scripture you folks use to come up with a rapture — nope there is none.
There are three resurrections
The first to life; see revelation 20
the 2nd to judgement; see Ezekiel 37 the dry bones resurrected to physical life
the 3rd to condemnation which means cast into the Lake of Fire and burned to ashes. Read the parables of Christ where He tells His servants to burn up the garbage after the harvest.
Jango you are a rapture guy why don’t you jump in here and help these fellows out
Jesus Christ is not talking about the rapture, the harpazo, in those verses. He is referring to the tribulation period and the house of Israel, generically called the Jews. The regathering of the elect of this instance of His teaching, the tribes of Israel from throughout the world, at the beginning of the millennial kingdom, is an event referred to all over in scripture, a primary Old Testament theme regarding the Israel of eschatology. The Lord Jesus is teaching on the time of Jacob’s trouble, so obviously. You clearly don’t understand the scripture you’re referring to, funny, since the very topic is Israel and the tribulation in Matthew 24, not the church, just as there is no church on earth in Revelation, beginning chapter 4, rather the raptured from all nations even pictured in heaven in chapter 5.
As for whatever other troll you’re warring with you call to help, I know I don’t need any help, as I understand the Bible, well. Like the many verses provided here of the rapture, the word of God from the Holy Bible you web trolls would vote down, it is neither any use in engaging any discussion with those of your ilk who refute such clear truths in God’s word a child could understand, who troll websites, fighting truths and trying to deceive people, citing scripture having nothing to do with your arguments, scripture you use that shoots down your own arguments and, therefore, your credibility, shoots your credibility straight to hell, really, showing your utter confusion by your gross misapplication of scripture that has nothing to do with your very claims, you displaying no spiritual understanding of scripture or even most basic scholarship, period.
Lastly, my comments were addressed to and for jknbt. I’d have solicited your butting in, your trolling, if I was looking to dispute with a confused person who doesn’t understand scripture and enjoys foolish bickering. For now, I’ll talk to a tree stump if I want a useless conversation. A tree stump is also ignorant, but it must know it’s a tree stump, as it’s not so lame as to talk back. You and others are like supermarket butchers, trying to lecture on brain surgery. Really pathetic, actually.
“…I understand the Bible, well.”
paralambano
“The House of Israel generically called the Jews”
para who then is the House of Judah?? Ju – dah
I am astonished by your deep knowledge, really!
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Hey “ghost” by using that term it means you follow catholic doctrine and the catholic’s must have a copy write on that term as they invented it. it ain’t in the Word of God — there is no ghost– never was– never will be.
Ghostwriter, TS.
The holy ghostwriter.
Come on, now.
Beef — LOL I hate all things catholic to the extreme
Don’t let it cloud your vision, old fella!!
John 14:1-3 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
Colossians 3:4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
1 Thessalonians 5:9-10 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
1 Thessalonians 1:8-10 For from you sounded out the word of the Lord not only in Macedonia and Achaia, but also in every place your faith to God-ward is spread abroad; so that we need not to speak any thing. For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God; and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
Romans 5:8-9 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Luke 21:33-36 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
1 Corinthians 15:51-58 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
1 Thessalonians 5:1-5 But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness.
Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
Revelation 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
Revelation 5:9-10 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; and hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
Jude 1:14-15 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, to execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. (Revelation 19:11-14)
Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
Para since you have a superior knowledge concerning the Word of God I was wondering if you would explain to me what this “spirit in Man” is.
Zechariah 12: 1
1 “The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and — formeth — The Spirit – “OF” – Man –“within him”.
para please do not respond there is nothing to be gained here- we are one thousand miles apart.
False teaching as “the ones taken” are evil ones unto destruction….the ones left are the righteous.
I think that if you get raptured, it’s because greys want to go all Mr. Garrison on you !
hello to all earnest seekers of the Truth: Here is a link to the Lamb Lion Ministries page where there are articles on the Rapture. Go to “Articles” and then to “Rapture”. Dave Reagan has done a good job of laying out and defending this Bible truth. Enjoy!
http://christinprophecy.org/articles/
Jesus is Coming Soon!
We are living on borrowed time.
Jesus Is Coming Back Very Soon
Now is the season!
The Rapture
What is it? Who will it affect? When is it most likely to take place?
Rapture New?
Get a Clue!
LEFT BEHIND
Jesus Came
What’s Next?
PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE
The Origin of the Concept of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture
From Man or the Bible?
Why I Believe in a Pre-Tribulation Rapture
11 reasons why Jesus will come back before the Tribulation
2 Thessalonians 2:3
Can the Rapture be found in this passage?
The Pre-Wrath Rapture
Is there any validity to this concept?
In Defense of the Pre–Tribulation Rapture
Left behind or led astray?
An Update on the Origin of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture
The Research of Dr. William C. Watson
Pre-Trib in My Inbox
Answering an Important Bible Prophecy Question
Satan is the great deceiver is he not? ii.e. con man personified !
Jesus Christ came to bring “LIFE” – eternal – life to mankind and that LIFE is made possible — ONLY — by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the stake.
Jesus Christ returned to His Father’s Throne in heaven to prepare a “place” (mansions), positions of great authority, for those the Father draws to Christ.
The positions of great authority Christ is preparing for God’s Saints are those of kings, Lords and priest in the Government of God i.e. The Kingdom of God. David, in that day, will be king over all 12 tribes and the 12 apostles each over a tribe.
Our Master coming as KING of kings and LORD of lords.
BUT — most importantly we are to be SONS of GOD the Father with bodies exactly like Jesus Christ, our elder brother, the Father’s first born of many brethren.
Phil 3: 21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto HIS glorious body,
And what does Satan’s rapture offer?
Going to heaven to escape physical pain and the first death. WOW!
That’s it ??? Really ???
That is “your” great HOPE??
I chose to endure all things here on earth until the end like all those God has called and worked with since creation and then wait in my grave until that First Resurrection to LIFE comes.
And if my Father accounts me worthy to be martyred for HIS Son sake I will gladly give up my body to be burned.
Is a rapture of God or of Satan—you must decide:
Revelation 13: 4 -8
4 “And “they” worshipped the dragon [Satan] which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”
For the dragon (Satan) and the Beast (a human man) to be worshipped by the whole world, ‘they’ is the whole world, the Beast must rule the entire world.
This will occur during the last 3 ½ years when the Beast is given great power by Satan as the Great Tribulation begins.
Remember after Christ fasted 40 days and 40 nights Satan tempted Him, Satan offered Christ all the nations of the world; Satan, the god of this world, at the beginning of the final 3 ½ years will give all the nations of the world that ARE under his control — to the Beast.
The Beast will be an individual human man which will finally rule over ten (10) nations for a very short time, 10 kings or heads of nations. The Beast and the False Prophet are in league. The False Prophet will be head or vicar of an existing and massive worldwide ‘universal’ but counterfeit Christian church, i.e. – The Babylonian Mystery religion rejoined by all her daughters that had come out from her.
5 “And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.”
The Beast will be given great power by Satan, the world is unaware who’s world this is –it is Satan’s: Satan controls all things on earth Satan is the god of this world. The Beast will control the world given to him by Satan and will rule for 42 months which is 1260 days or 3 ½ years.
The Beast will make war with the Saints during the final 3 ½ years and is preparing now in secret making ready for his time of world control. When the Beast arises it will shock the entire world. They will all say who is like the Beast, who can make war with this incredibly charismatic and powerful man?
Right now the nation the Beast will arise from is pulling together the armies of many nations into a regional force but under the control of that one nation. No one is watching!
7 “And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them and power was given him over all kindred’s and tongues and nations”.
John was being shown in vision and wrote in these scriptures what is to take place. John uses the present tense describing what was taking place in the revelation from Christ.
God allows the Beast to makes war and overcome the Saints during the time of the end – during the last 3 ½ years but understand this fact: it is not those “left behind” or the weak in faith that are overcome by the Beast.
The Beast makes war against The Saints of God here one earth during the 3 ½ years, so states Jesus Christ; the Beast will overcome them here on earth.
Or do you suppose Satan will attack the Saints in Heaven?
The Beast’s war on the Saints is relentless but is interrupted or hindered by the Sixth Seal which is the heavenly signs Joel prophesied is to come.
The 6th Seal cause the Beast Power and the whole world great destruction and loss even though it is a very short period of time maybe lasting a day. The 6th Seal ushers in the 7th Seal which is the Day of The LORD and God’s Wrath upon the Beast and all gentiles. The Beast is a gentile.
A point that must not be overlooked: during the time of the Fifth, Sixth and Seventh Seals: Satan will remain the god of this world controlling all nations and peoples, governments and all religions of this world. “All” religions includes the huge number of counterfeit Christian churches which will have return to the Mother of Harlots.
Satan is the prince of the power of the air, Ephesians 2:2, Satan has the power to broadcast his attitudes of hate, anger, jealousy, rebellion and wrath throughout the entire world and even into your mind. All media is and has been under the control of Satan and Satan has been programming the entire world for what is coming upon this world. Satan is even now deceiving the entire world including so called Christianity.
Satan as god of the whole earth controls all religions, governments and nations on earth and has placed those that do his will in charge of these institutions. Satan has men and women that willfully and knowingly follow him; Satan has placed in high positions of authority in government, banking, industry and religion men that know they are doing Satan the devil will.
God will allow Satan to use the Beast for 42 months to punish God’s Elect , the physical whole house of Israel. It is the time of the wrath of Satan on God’s Church and God’s Elect the physical house of Israel and Satan will remain in control as god of this world until Christ removes him.
The 7 years of final punishment is The time of Jacob’s Trouble and begins the times of the Gentiles.
8 ‘And — ALL—-[ all, everyone ] that dwell upon the earth shall worship him (the Beast), whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
All that will worship the Beast are not found in the book of life, not called by our Father for salvation — in this age — but will be called later in a future time of salvation after the 1000 year reign of Christ. See Revelation 20: 1- 6.
God is calling only His “First Fruits”, the first early spring harvest now but has placed in his plan of salvation a second resurrection which will bring the majority of mankind their opportunity for forgiveness and salvation.
The Great White Throne Judgment is for all those that were never called during the first 6000 years. God will save possibly as many as 100 billion individuals, but each in his order, each in his own time (Revelation 20: 5).
If there is a first, it must logically follow there is at least a second resurrection. If there were only one resurrection, why then does Christ call it the first resurrection? Using the term first implies and logically requires at least a second. Lacking an understanding of logic and that it must be used in study, condemns the many to confusion.
God created logic to be used to prove ALL things ! Is it even taught today?
Consider this logical question: what has happened to those millions in Noah’s flood or in Egypt at the time of the first exodus? Most died with little if any knowledge of THE ONE TRUE CREATOR GOD. Did God just put them to death for their sins, and too bad you lose? Or is God only calling a few now in this age for salvation and the tens of billions after the 1,000 years? Ezekiel 37: 11 says, “These bones are the whole house of Israel.” Read all of Chapter 37, this is the 2nd resurrection to flesh and blood.
Living by every word of God includes the Old Testament: when Christ was referring to and quoting scripture all he had was the Old Testament.
Again we find the Saints of God are on earth for the entirety of the final 3 ½ years (1260 days) and at war with the Beast.
Daniel 7: 21, 22
Here it is again!!!
21 “I beheld and the same horn made war with the Saints and prevailed against them.”
Here Daniel states the horn, the Beast Power makes war and prevailed against the Saints, just as in Revelation 13. The Saints must be on earth for this to occur and the Beast only has great power for 3 ½ years ——starting at the Tribulation. Only the Beast makes war with the Saints of God.
The Saints must be on earth as flesh and blood during the final 3 ½ years; If they were in heaven during the Great Tribulation how could Satan make war against them?
Really ! The tribulation begins at the 3 ½ years, that is the 3 ½ years the Beast will be given great power by Satan AND during that 3 ½ years the Beast makes war and prevails against the SAINTS !!!
Please where does this war take place on earth or at God’s Throne in the third heaven ???
The doctrine of the rapture is crumbling scripture by scripture and we have only considered a few scriptures and there are dozens more.
22 “Until the Ancient of days came and judgment was given to the saints of the most High —- and the time came — that the saints possessed the kingdom.”
A time is coming in the future when the Saints will possess the kingdom and that time is not UNTIL the Ancient of days “CAME” – where is Jesus Christ foretold to COME—to earth as KING of kings. : “THY Kingdom COME!”
Verse 22 is clearly talking about the second coming of Jesus Christ to this earth, the Ancient of Days CAME! The resurrected Saints are to be given judgment;
Judgment is the power and authority to judge and to rule and that power comes from and with a position of authority in the government of God.
Judgment will be given to God’s Saints after the Beast Power makes war and overcomes them for 3 ½ years. In verses: 21 and 22, the Beast makes war and prevailed against or restrains the saints UNTIL — the Ancient of days – came – and not for just a moment before He turns around — but HE “CAME”;
the Beast makes war for 3 ½ years UNTIL Christ comes and cast him into the Lake of fire. The Saints of God are on earth during the Great tribulation and are still on earth when Christ returns to earth as King of kings. Christ comes and then gives the Saints possession of the KINGDOM as kings ruling under Jesus Christ the KING of kings.
The Beast and the False Prophet continue in power – continue to war against the Saints until just before Christ defeats the armies of the world in “The battle of That Great Day of God Almighty,” (Revelation 16:14) at the place called Armageddon. Daniel states Christ comes and it is now time for the Saints to possess the kingdom and rule from positions of authority and judgment.
Point: The Ancient of days came. He did not “almost come” then turn around and return. Not one scripture claiming Christ will swoop down quietly and then hurry back to heaven with the saints has been found up to this point.
It is very difficult to change another person’s mind especially concerning a rapture but if the above does not cause doubt – WOW !
John Rolls
Due to the fact you are a rapture guy to the “N’th degree please reveal to everyone not wanting to miss the rapture exactly what one must DO to be included in this rapture to heaven to escape the physical tribulation or what ever.
You title implies that it is up to each individual to get themselves raptured – so – what?? Are you of the “accept Jesus into your heart” group or must one verbally accept Jesus in front of the congregation, is speaking in tongues required?? What?
John You must know the steps one must take to get raptured — so let the poor folks know.
And John it is not sad that its only the few that get raptured and the rest are left behind – no salvation for them, nope!
It is also sad that your god can not save more then what maybe 5 or 10 percent of so called christainity and NONE of the 5 or 6 billion that are not even remotely christian. That not a great batting average saving a few hundred thousand or even a million out of 7.5 billion alive right now and not to mention the 100 billion that have been lived and died over the last 6000 years.
But Hey as long as you and your rapture friends get raptured who cares about those that will not listen to you.
John I for one will not be raptured I will wait for the first resurrection and be included in God’s First Fruits.
The Rapture is a doctrine invented in the late 1800″s by the Seven Day Adventist. it was picked up by trinity churches at the turn of the 1900′s. Oneness churches still preach it also. Its a false doctrine.
Have any of you rapture folks spent any time at all in Revelation 20: 4?
Revelation 20: 4
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto
them: and[saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus,
and for the word of God,– and which had not worshipped the beast, -
neither his image,– neither had received[his] mark upon their foreheads, or
in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
“They” {those beheaded — those to be given authority/judgment} had not
Worshiped the Beast or his image and had not received his mark on their
foreheads or their hands — They lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.”
Once your head is cut off – you are dead; no need for physical protection at that point.
The time of worshipping the Beast is only during the 3 ½ years during which the Tribulation is to take place and according to rapture folks they will be in heaven during the time of the Beast and the tribulation – so how do they get their heads cut off in heaven and then live and reign with Christ for 1000 years??
It seem all agree The Tribulation occurs during that same 3 ½ years and the Beast rules during that same 3 ½ years.
Then those that lost their heads and refused to worship the Beast – “LIVED”; Did they lose their heads before the tribulation, during or afterwards? And when is it they will “Live” i.e. be given eternal life, before being beheaded?
Those that had lost their heads during the Great Tribulation when the Beast was in power—later -reign with Jesus Christ, sitting on Thrones as kings and lords for 1000 years!!!!!
Revelation 5: 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign “on the earth”.
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Transliteration: epi
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The resurrected Saints of God will rule here ON earth with Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ in Verse 4 confirmed the impossibility of a rapture:
How can you rapture believers read Revelation 20; 4 and not see the impossibility of a rapture at any point in time?
“If” a rapture “were” to occur and the Saints ‘were’ taken to heaven either before — during – or – after the tribulation for protection— How would it then be possible for God’s Saint’s – –to be beheaded –AND – to be protected in heaven during the 3 ½ years all at the same time????
And this is describing GOD’s Saints – who else will LIVE and reign with Christ?
If they are beheaded — and then — taken to heaven for physical protection — isn’t that a little late? Do they go to heaven with or without their heads?
These same Saints that are going to be beheaded then LIVE and reign with Christ for 1000 years. That is a resurrection to life and where has it ever said reign in heaven?
To have ones head cut off one must be flesh and blood and flesh and blood CAN not dwell in heaven, in God’s spirit Heaven. Christ clearly states that born of flesh IS flesh and that born of Spirit IS spirit.
A rapture is only about escaping physical pain – or are you claiming a born again Saint of God the Father born with the same spirit body as Jesus Christ can experience physical pain?
And that is the body the resurrected Saints will rise with –Phil 3: 21.
There are mountains of scriptures that confirm the rapture was designed by Satan to deceive GOD’s chosen people.
How much longer will you allow Satan to deceive you?
The problem is you do not want Jesus Christ to reign over you – you do not want to OBEY HIS Commandments, you want that “get out of jail free” card — grace.
Sorry that is not how God works. What you sow is what you reap.