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Could Red Dawn Really Happen?

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With North Korea rattling its sabers and making threats against the United States – I wondered….“Could Red Dawn really happen?”  For those who may not know what I refer the remake of the 80′s classic Red Dawn features an EMP riddled north-western United States being invaded by North Korea.

I have watched the movie several times and from what I could tell there was some kind of preliminary strike which killed the power to much of the West Coast – then several hours later North Korean bombers and planes arrived in the state of Washington. Troops parachuted to the ground and began taking control of areas. It appears there is a minimal US military response as local military bases, also without power, were slow to react. With no phone service, with no method for people to communicate - chaos soon followed as people panic to understand what is happening. Within a short time the vast majority of the population is obedient to the invaders – except for a small group of young people who escaped into the countryside early on during the invasion.

Could this happen? Could North Korea cause a massive power outage in the northwest, killing all communications – both civilian and military and then carry out a sneak attack and invasion? My initial thought while watching the movie – “This is ridiculous.”

Let’s take a closer look at North Korea’s military:

North Korea’s Army – North Korea has a substantial military population.

Total active duty personnel  numbers close to 1.1 million soldiers. With a military reserve of over 8 million people – North Korea actually has the largest military in the world when it comes to total ground soldiers. They rank 4th in the world when looking at strictly active military personnel.

North Korean soldiers

How do other countries compare? Considering just active duty  - the United States ranks #2 with 1.4 million active military personnel while China comes out on top with 2.2 million military.

So – as far as pure numbers – North Korea has an impressive military force.

Air Power – North Korea’s Air Force contains around 1600 planes of various types. Total numbers of actual planes and currently available aircraft of difficult to determine.

Fighters: North Korea has several variants of fighters from older, out of date MiG-17′s to modern MiG-29′s.  The maximum range of  the MiG-29 is 1304 miles without refueling.

North Korean MiG-29 Fighter

Bombers: North Korea’s bomber inventory consists mainly of II-28 bombers which are very old. These bombers have a maximum range of 1740 miles. The United States is more than 5000 miles from North Korea. With a maximum speed of 550 mph it would take more than 9 hours for North Korean bombers to reach the coast of the United States.

II-28 Bomber

Other: North Korea operates a number of other aircraft including helicopters and ground attack models. From my research it does not appear that North Korea possesses any tanker aircraft which to provide refueling in the air.

The United States air power is far superior to North Korea in every aspect imaginable.

On the Sea – North Korea has military sea presence of some 700+ vessels including up to 100 submarines as well as destroyers, torpedo boats, fire-support boats, and guided missile boats. The vast majority of their vessels are very short-range and limited to coast patrol.

The majority of ships in the fleet have a very limited range. This range is so limited that they do not have the capability of navigating from one coast of North Korea to the other.

Romeo-class Submarine

North Korea operates at least 20 Romeo class submarines with a range of 9000 miles. These submarines are generally considered obsolete and were built back in the 50′s to early 60′s.

Does North Korea have he capability to carry out a Red Dawn-style attack?

The short answer? No – it does not.

North Korea’s military is far too antiquated to launch any kind of attack/invasion from some 5000 miles away. Their aircraft and submarine technology is far too slow to gain access to the West Coast without substantial warning being given to the United States. Without the ability to refuel in the air no fighters and no bombers would be able to make the trip from the East Coast of North Korea to the West Coast of the United States. Additionally – the shear numbers of troops needed to carry out a Red Dawn-style invasion could not be transported to the US as there just are not enough planes in the North Korean inventory which to do it.

What about a non-Red Dawn style attack? Does North Korea have the ability to put a dent in the United States armor?

My answer – maybe, but not likely. Let’s look at a few possible scenario’s:

  • Could North Korea somehow navigate a submarine – or twelve, into US water without being detected? It is possible. It is a huge ocean and all one needs to do is remember back a few years ago when it was widely reported that a missile – likely Chinese – was fired off the West Coast from a submarine. If the Korean II-28 submarines could be modified and retrofitted to launch a nuclear device into the atmosphere then an EMP attack could be a reality. EMP – yes. Invasion? No. How likely? Not very.

  • Could North Korea launch a missile from its own land and reach the United States? It is widely reported that North Korea does NOT have a missile capable of reaching the western United States – however they do possess 2 or more Taepodong-2 ballistic missiles. When launched into orbit these missiles can not just reach the western coast but Washington, DC as well.

There are two questions that only the North Korean’s can answer:

  1. Do they have the capability of an orbital launch and follow up navigation?
  2. Have they miniaturized a nuclear weapon to fit on the Taepodong-2 missile?

IF they have the orbital launch system and IF they have the missile-mounted nuclear warhead-then an attempt could be made. The result would likely be the missile being destroyed by US Armed Forces.

 

  • Could North Korea smuggle a nuclear device (or twelve) into the United States and carry off a Jericho-like terrorist attack? I doubt it. North Korea is estimated to have anywhere from 12 to 24+ nuclear weapons. The ability for them to transport these weapons to the United States and then somehow smuggle them in would be quite a feat. Potentially, an individual weapon may be more likely. I suspect that North Korea would not be able to accomplish this themselves. Their supplying the weapon(s) to a terrorist group or another country would likely be the answer.

Let’s hope not.

Not likely or even possible.

Summary:

The United States is not omnipotent. Regardless – the ability for North Korea to do much more than threaten is certainly in dispute and exaggerated AND under-estimated by many. They are an evil empire that should not be taken lightly.

- Rourke


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© 2013, Rourke. All rights reserved.


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    • Anonymous

      Simply put “YES”, are you ready because they will come ready or not

    • Oblivionssin

      Yea but in Red Dawn N Korea are helped by Russia, which means it is very possible

    • Neil Armstrong

      They could invade like in red dawn, but as long as the population still has access to guns it wouldn’t last more than a week at best. We would have to be softened considerably to make it successful, and disarming the population would make that possible.

    • Anonymous

      Yes, it could happen. When God decides to remove his protective hand he has held over US for more that 200 years.

      Then we will be VERY vulnerable to even North Korea.

      We are abandoning God in our live -and soon God will abandon us in His life. Then the gates of hell will be open….

      It will be so bad we will look upon the dead as the lucky ones!

    • predictability

      To.Sten.
      Julius Ceasar!? u mean the Guy that was king of Rome-aka greece?.
      Julius Ceasar- he was also every MANS WOMAN!.
      & every WOMAN*S MAN. didn’t they order To Kill 6000 christians aswell??.. R.E.A.D.
      peace predictability.

    • Pix

      “… the powers that be in the shitehouse who are a bunch of foreign infiltraitors…”

      I take it you are a native American, aka. a Red Indian, if not you have double standards. :lol:

    • Pix

      North Korea rattle their sabres every time they have a crop failure and are going hungry. So no they are not going to bite the hand they are expecting to feed them.

      :lol:

    • movielover

      I just watched this movie. Yes, it could vary likely happen. How they done it in the movie and reality are two different things though. With help yes North Korea can invade and do that, without help, not saying it couldn’t happen, but is still possible. We have become comfortable here in the United States and we have gone into war with other countries, so for it to come here would be no surprise. The movie, even if people don’t want to admit it, is the most realistic movie about what can and will more or so happen. We take for granted that we are here and “safe” and there has to be change. So, it’s either another country that will do this or our own government, whatever you decide to believe, this is our future. And maybe we wont have the “wolverines” to save us. :cry:

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