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@MINDHEART on #GAB asked: What is a #CONSERVatarian? So glad you asked... (#CONSERVatism vs #LIBERALtarianism)

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@MINDHEART on #GAB asked: What is a #CONSERVatarian? So glad you asked… (#CONSERVatism vs #LIBERALtarianism)…. (important related Article I wrote back in 2009 “CINOs, RINOs, PLINOs, oh my… The Political Zoo (is there such a thing as a DINO?)” see: https://tinyurl.com/ThePoliticalZoo)

I’ve been wanting to write about this topic (well, similar CONSERVATIVES vs LIBERALtarians) for some time but never gotten around to it… and, sadly, don’t really have time/energy to do so IN GREAT DETAILS now… So, let me share what he said/asked and my responses below…. Perhaps we can spur continued conversation regarding it in the comments of this Article?!?!?

FIRST OFF, if you do NOT know the difference between an actual LIBERAL and a LEFTIST you will want to review this first: https://youtu.be/-nTMYEsomvc (which is also embeded as a Video further down thread)! Related, one can RED PILL a Liberal but not likely EVER A LEFTIST (see items: http://tinyurl.com/WalkAway2020 and /conspiracy-theories/2021/08/yes-some-are-still-reachable-to-red-pill-but-one-has-to-be-strategic-about-it-2518847.html )

(related item: https://www.12cdrc.org/micd12gop-take-action-as-a-delegate (aka: http://tinyurl.com/JoinUsAndFightRINOs))

[an aside: /republican/2021/12/what-is-the-future-of-the-republican-party-gop-what-it-cannot-be-is-to-copy-the-hate-of-the-dumbocrats-fascicrats-2444973.html GOP cannot become as HATEFUL as the FASCICRATS but nor as NON-IMPACTFUL as the Libtardtarisns]
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@MINDHEART (again, at/on GAB – see: https://gab.com/mindheart/posts/102613264243376983) said….
What is a conservatarian? Although I’ve just encountered the term, I like it. I agree that repubs have lost their conservatism, and libertarians do not respect borders or true sovereignty.

I have recently been calling myself a “sovereign micro-nationalist.” I want to see fully independent entities at all levels, from the individual, to families, neighborhoods, villages, and cooperative, treaty-bound groups of smaller sovereigns. I see no need for “nations” not made up of smaller totally independent entities.

By nature, every sovereign entity at every level will want to have secure borders, internal rules and culture, and ability to deal as a sovereign with other sovereigns at any level. Every sovereign also has the innate right to withdraw from treaties, and to split into several sovereigns or merge with another.

Would it be fair to call me a “micro-nationalist conservatarian?”

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MY RESPONSE:

@mindheart One can be a CONSERVATIVE (and therefore a CONSTITUTIONALIST* (if not the latter, they are a CINO really)) and hold some LIBERALtarian views! Constitutional perspectives as held in GOP PLATFORM (sadly, too many CINOs/RINOs don’t adhere to)! But one can’t be a LIBERALtarian (support ABORTION**, OPEN BORDERS (no such things as a Nation concept, which goes back to Biblical times, without BORDERS), etc) and be a Conservative. Hope that cleared things up. I really should put it in a long-form Article one of these days cuz this discussion has come up many times!
 
 
* the big one – DRUGS!!! Constitution IS SILENT. They used to be LEGAL. Prohibition of Alcohol amendment then its repeal made people settle on OK, WELL LETS MAKE THOSE ILLEGAL INSTEAD attitude! That is a matter of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY and INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS/FREEDOMS! I have sad many times I “WOULD” (do not now) support DECRIMINALIZATION and eventual FULL LEGALIZATION but HOWEVER we MUST FIRST overturn the WELFARE STATE (it says PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE, that does NOT mean YOU CAN WRITE WELFARE CHECKS TO INDIVIDUALS (one, over others)) and SAFETY HAMMOCK! Most agree a minor, temporary, LOCALLY CONTROLLED (and moreso even in/by CHARITY, NOT GOVERNMENT) “SAFETY NET” can could should (we believe in CHARITY, and HELP OUR NEIGHBORS) but it is a FAR CRY from the YOU CAN RUIN YOUR LIFE AND ALWAYS BE BAILED OUT AT OTHERS’ EXPENSE/COST we have today! Return to PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY and CONSEQUENCES OF ONES OWN ACTIONS and then I am (AS A CONSTITUTIONALIST) on board with legalization!

** related THE CHOICE DODGE (vs #14A)
Countering every single Democrats’/LIBERALtarians’ false-narratives (linguistic gymnastics they use to support #BabyKilling): https://twitter.com/i/moments/1128850210040553473
(other @JLenardDetroit “moments” https://twitter.com/JLenardDetroit/moments)
;more importantly: https://tinyurl.com/RoeVWadeExamined
(related: https://tinyurl.com/BlackBabyGenocide)

ALSO: Conservatism is rooted in JUDEO/CHRISTIAN values…
MUST SEE: http://tinyurl.com/libreligion

 
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RELATED OTHER POST @MINDHEART MADE
“Not sure what I am anymore” he said!
(see: https://gab.com/mindheart/posts/105266817936430362)

My response on that?
I have FAITH IN YOU from your Posts you are a THINKER not an EMOTIONAL HYSTERICS kinda guy…
therefore, there is NO WAY YOU CAN BE A #FASCICRATS*** Party member!
And THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY’VE BECOME, despite many in DENIAL pretending that is NOT what they are supporting with their Votes (but they are)!

*** NOT HYPERBOLE, despite them using #PSYCHOLOGICALPROJECTION and calling everyone else HITLER or FASCISTS, unlike them I/WE CAN BACK UP OUR ASSERTION(S)…..
related on/to/for that:
http://tinyurl.com/FASCICRATS
1984 style, the engage in #NEWSPEAK (what the definition of “IS” is)
https://tinyurl.com/LeftTwistsLanguage
https://tinyurl.com/DefineFAIR

You know how they twist even Childrens’ stories – mainly ROBIN HOOD who TOOK FROM SHERIFF (NOT THE RICH, BUT YES SHERIFF AND KING WERE RICH) WHO WAS THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE STATE (THE KING) AND GAVE THE MONEY BACK THAT THAT MONEY WAS CONFISCATED FROM IN THE FORM OF OPPRESSIVE TAXES!
And, of course, they REALLY TWIST THE BIBLE – more: http://tinyurl.com/libreligion
 
 
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As for the LIBERALtarian Party line….

Spare me the line “BOTH PARTIES ARE EQUALLY PATHETIC/BAD!” If you think the #GOP is inadequate, and many times, IMO, I think it is — WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO HELP?? Are YOU a #PrecinctDelegate (PD)?!?!
Why #Conservatives MUST become Precinct Delegate http://drewmckissick.com/why-conservatives-should-get-involved-in-the-republican-party/  

You can scream all you like from the Bleachers, if you want to help shape the outcome of the Game/Score you have to get on the Team and actually FIGHT to shape the outcome of the Game from/while ON THE FIELD!

“Help becoming a PD” in MI (DuckDuckGo search for other States): https://www.michiganfreedomfund.com/become_a_precinct_delegate

Conservatives use LOGIC and REASON
Libtards = EMOTIONAL HYSTERICS (how/why easily MANIPULATED)
see my article on that: http://tinyurl.com/BrainDeadPeople

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AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION AND NEED FOR CLARIFICATION!
I, many times, get a bit “lazy” with language, as do others, when I know better and should NOT!
In this case I am referring to LIBERAL vs LEFTIST! Many times, perhaps even, these days, MOST TIMES, a LIBERAL and a LEFTIST are one in the same, cuz they themselves refuse to any longer recognize the distinction!! Again, goes back to a side comment, and sub-links, about LIBERALS/LEFTISTS TWISTING LANGUAGE (the need to constantly hide behind a NEW LABEL to disquise who they really are) and constantly shift terms (like, definition of “IS” is) because they cannot Win an intellectually HONEST discussion (they have to try to complicat and confuse the issues into obscurity – what’s the saying: Can’t dazzle them with brilliance, BAFFLE THEM WITH BULLSHIT (which BULLSHIT is what Leftists/Fascicrats are always shoveling/peddling)!
However, NOT ALL REAL LIBERALS, in the CLASSIC LIBERAL SENSE, ARE LEFTISTS, but MOST (sadly, like 99% of Liberals are USEFUL IDIOTS of/by/for LEFTISTS)!
Best explination of these DISTINCTIONS comes from Dennis Prager, so I’ll include his Vlog on that here:

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IF YOU ARE NOT A GOP DELEGATE, THEN YOU ARE A USEFUL IDIOT TO/FOR BOTH THE LEFTARDS FASCICRATS AND THE CINOs/RINOs….

uh huh, lol at those who think it is productive to yell at the Players, Coaches, or Referee’s on the Field cuz TOO LAZY to suit up and help change the Game by being on the Field to effect the score/outcome… absolutely BACKWARDS THINKING… If you WANT CHANGE you have to BE INSIDE HELPING US TO FORCE THE CHANGE…

And as for moron’s talking about PATRIOT PARTY…
Then you are OUT OF STEP with #POTUS45 and #TRUMP2024..
#NEWSMAX Reports: TRUMP ENDS PATRIOT PARTY TALK, WILL PRIMARY #NEVERTRUMPERS!  
And POTUS45 reiterated such a CPAC!

Spare us all the “NO LONGER REGISTERED #REPUBLICAN” manure posts! If that is all some ever were, THEY WERE/ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM (and should look in the Mirror)! Takes MORE than that…. Shall know them by their Fruits (and what is it THEY actually did?)!t

Also: Spare us the line “BOTH PARTIES ARE EQUALLY PATHETIC/BAD!” If some think the #GOP is inadequate, and many times, IMO, I think it is (many who do not uphold Platform planks/principles/values (tho, yes, of course, we are a BIG TENT and not going to agree on 100% EVERYTHING but there are a couple BIG/KEY/CRITICAL things that supposed to set us apart from FASCICRATS*)) — WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO HELP?? Are YOU a #PrecinctDelegate (PD)?!?!

Why #Conservatives MUST become Precinct Delegate http://drewmckissick.com/why-conservatives-should-get-involved-in-the-republican-party/  (aka: https://tinyurl.com/BeAGOPDelegate)

You can scream all you like from the Bleachers, if you want to help shape the outcome of the Game/Score you have to get on the Team and actually FIGHT to shape the outcome of the Game from/while ON THE FIELD!

“Help becoming a PD” in MI (DuckDuckGo search for other States): https://www.michiganfreedomfund.com/become_a_precinct_delegate (aka: https://tinyurl.com/BeAMIGOPDelegate)

Get involved. Become a PD. Then try to become a member of your District or County Republican Committee (or even Run for Chair of them)! EXERT REAL INFLUENCE!  Go to the State Convention!  

We need reinforcements INSIDE to help root out CINOs/RINOs as well as FASCICRATS!!!

https://www.12cdrc.org/micd12gop-take-action-as-a-delegate

NOTE the CINOs / RINOs count on everyone’s complacency and unwillingness to GET/BE INVOLVED… They count on it to maintain their power and control… Those who still SIT ON THE SIDELINES and scream from the Bleachers rather than (become a Delegate) suit up and get on the Field to help shape the outcome of the Score / Game are USEFUL IDIOTS TO/FOR THE RINOS (they love those who only whine, BUT DO NOTHING)!

see: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xoo7ord68uq0d7l/Precinct_Delegate_Candidates_Overview.pdf?dl=0

more importantly see:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0dfoiunx2loq5ki/Precinct_Delegate_Training_101_Participant_Guide_FINAL_3_10_21_CLB.pdf?dl=0

and : https://www.dropbox.com/s/wtnk6pzudcyo7zd/Precinct%20Delegate%20Training%20-%20saved%20chat.txt?dl=0   

related: http://tinyurl.com/WalkAway2020
http://tinyurl.com/BLEXIT2020

* http://tinyurl.com/FASCICRATS  

tinyurl.com/ElectionFraud2020Detailed

https://tinyurl.com/W12ConstitutionEvent2020Flyer
https://tinyurl.com/W12ConstitutionEvent2020Speech (we focused on #19A)
Wayne12CDRC Michigan ConstDinner may move to Sep 17, focus will be #1A (#FreedomOfReligion)
see: http://tinyurl.com/W12CD2021Details

 

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MANY, MANY, MANY, MORE, BOTH RELATED AND UNRELATED ITEMS:
https://tinyurl.com/JLDArticles

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Sat Sep 25 2021 UPDATE…
(AUDIO, 30m) YOU MUST BE A DELEGATE… OR *YOU* ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM SURRENDERING TO BOTH RINOs AND FASCICRATS…
MUST LISTEN: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ewk7wd4lxn58997/WAAM-YAH-Sat09252021-YOUMUSTBEADELEGATE.mp3?dl=0

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More in the form of images/memes (NOTE: B4IN Archives articles after 1 years time and images get stripped, you’ll be able to see there additional CONTEXT until such time thereafter below)……

 

 
 

 

 

 

If your response to the known #VoterFraud in 2020 is to SIT OUT 2022, THEN YOU ARE A #MORON! We must turn-out in such overwhelming numbers, that they cannot even STEAL THE NEXT ELECTION trying to Cheat. But why would they Cheat, if #MORONS won’t #GOTV, they can Win w/o #Fraud. #SpecialKindOfSTUPID
 
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If your response to the known #VoterFraud in 2020 is to SIT OUT 2022, THEN YOU ARE A #MORON! We must turn-out in such overwhelming numbers, that they cannot even STEAL THE NEXT ELECTION trying to Cheat. But why would they Cheat, if #MORONS won’t #GOTV, they can Win w/o #Fraud. #SpecialKindOfSTUPID

 

Let’s just pretend that 160M people did vote in last Election, there are 330Mish #USCitizens in USA (but, yes, of course, not all are of age to Vote)… It is reported that between 50-60% OF ALL CHRISTIANS are STILL NOT VOTING (most of which are Conservatives, likely Constitutionalists, except for the FAKE CHRISTIANS like Biden, Pelosi, et al (see related: http://tinyurl.com/SomeTwistJesusWords))! There are PLENTY of Folks that HAVE NOT GOT OFF THEIR ASSES YET and are still part of the Problem.

As the Canadian Rock group RUSH tune says: If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice —- or, let me add: allowed one to be FORCED UPON YOU!

STOP THE STUPID, GET OFF YOUR ASSES – NOT ONLY JUST VOTE, BUT BE ACTUALLY POLITICALLY ACTIVE 365 days/year, EVERY YEAR (not just Election years) OR THE FASCICRATS AND RINOs WILL ALWAYS HAVE THEIR WAY!!!

STOP THE STUPID, GET OFF YOUR ASSES!
YOU, if YOU are already involved, MUST BECOME EVEN MORE INVOLVED.
YOU must BE A DELEGATE, REGST OTHER CONSERVATIVES TO VOTE AND BE PREPARED TO ENCOURAGE THEM AND EVEN HELP OFFER TO DRIVE THEM TO POLLS ON ELECTION DAY OR POSSIBLY BE A POLL INSPECTOR YOURSELF (to prevent Fraud at the Polls, INSPECTOR NOT POLL CHALLENGER)!
Applications/Forms at: https://www.12cdrc.org/micd12gop-take-action-as-a-delegate  

 

 

[VERY IMPORTANT FRI OCT 1 2021 UPDATE, as Tom drops "AMERICA".....

Having SHARED Tom's latest Video, must mention TOPHER's "DEAR TOM" (see here: https://youtu.be/EQA2JMDqteI) has valid points asking Tom for MORE SPECIFICS!!!

I agree to some degree that Tom's GREAT MODERATE HERO schtick is wearing thin!! I have NOT ever now nor ever will claim GOP is perfect, it is far from but unless one is willing to pick a side and become a GOP Delegate, fight on the Field rather than just WHINE/SCREAM from the Bleachers, and help us make it better then they are JUST A USEFUL IDIOT to/for FASCICRATS!! If anyone does not recognize that the FASCICRATS Party is the TEDDY KENNEDY (now driving the Car into the River to drown all of America) than JFK, is a complete fucking moron OSTRICH!

As the group RUSH says: If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice (or rather allow one to be forced upon you)! And the saying, stand in the MIDDLE OF THE ROAD don't be surprised when you get hit by traffic going both ways!

So, yes, Republicans aren't perfect, SHUT UP AND WORK TO MAKE THE GOP BETTER but anyone that entertains allowing a FASCICRATS Candidate get elected anywhere is A MORON! Become a GOP Delegate (I am, and I'm fighting RINOs as hard as FASCICRATS)!

You are RIGHT, he needs to PICK A SIDE or just admit he's only in it for the CASH!



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