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Erik Rush (Bio and Archives) Monday, November 12, 2012

It will take nothing short of Divine Intervention or civil war to save America

So… Barack Obama won re-election to the office of President of the United States, and Republican challenger Mitt Romney has slipped into obscurity faster than any candidate I’ve ever seen. Aside from futile, quasi-navel gazing posturing on the part of Congress over the “fiscal cliff” upon which the American economy is perched, news coverage since the election has been rife with diversion and non-issues.

We’re already sick of hearing autopsies of the Romney campaign. Suffice it to say that there is a host of reasons that Romney should not have been the GOP nominee, and that he could have run his campaign better. For years, conservatives have been driving home the point that when the Republican Party wants to win, it should advance conservative candidates, which Romney was most assuredly not. They have also rightly pointed out that Romney did not run on any of the party base’s core principles, thus failing to provide a distinction between him and Obama.

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Generally, when someone cries foul after a defeat, more often than not the charge is simply sour grapes, thus it is not considered seemly to cry foul without good reason. When the evidence of cheating on the part of a victor is staring one in the face, however, it becomes a moral obligation to at least discuss the matter – and the fact that two-thirds of the electorate aren’t aware that the Obama administration is a fundamentally nefarious one hardly matters in such a pursuit.

As we got increasingly closer to the 2012 general election, it was my assertion that Obama would not be re-elected without employing widespread fraud of one form or another. Given the character of the Obama campaign, I took it for granted that fraud would be rampant, but the extent to which it might affect the election was then unknown. Now, at a week out from the election, there are still US congressional races that remain in question, and voter turnout numbers that just don’t add up. From counties across America showing well over 100% voter turnout, to precincts reporting 99% voter turnout for Obama, to military ballots being delayed or destroyed in plane crashes, to the illegal ejection of Republican inspectors from polling places, and much more, we have scenarios that would have every Democrat operative in the country screaming from the rooftops if the shoe was on the other foot.
Now, it appears that Americans are being asked to presume that Obama “would have won anyway.”

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    • fuzzy696

      If romney had of won he would of disected the country and sold it off……oboma is simply going to bankrupt it.

    • Rosarito

      No

    • Chris Jacob

      Dude…Wake up…US elections were a puppet show, if you had been to real one, you would have got your monies worth, don’t waste your bandwidth and time on a DRAMA SHOW, where the outcome was already decided.

      Common man, what would it take for you to realize that, the votes were not even counted and the elections were just a facade, please, i will do my best to explain…Why do you still believe some “elections” were their to “choose” the “president”.

      Now, you also think Obama has some power, he is just a FACE bro, the real decisions are taken not even by humans not even in this dimension. WAKE UP BRO….If you don’t i have no hope for America.

      Leave the white house alone…Its has absolutely no freaking power..ITS JUST A PR stunt

      • Chris P Bacon 420

        AMEN. Why can’t more people understand this?!?!

        • HDThoreau

          This isn’t about an election. This is about the Federal Government no longer adhering to the US Constitution. The ONLY thing that Unites the States is that Constitution.

          The Supreme law of the land is ignored, which means the Federal Government no longer has any authority under the law. Which therefore means we are being ruled by a foreign power, yet again.

          Who wins an election shouldn’t matter. The law should be upheld regardless. That’s the problem. We elected a Marxist and his Communists in progressive clothing allies. And Communists don’t care about anyone’s law but their own.

          Yes, there are people behind the scenes, just as there were people behind the scenes when Hitler rose to power. So what? The end result is the same. And the instrument is the same.

    • EuroTrader

      “As we got increasingly closer to the 2012 general election, it was my assertion that Obama would not be re-elected without employing widespread fraud of one form or another.”

      Erik Rush is another sour grapes, pissed-off Republican who is stuck in the denial or anger phase of his grief.

      As the GOP said in 2004: “WE won! You Lost! Deal with it!”

    • DaveB

      Civil war is inevitable yes.

      Obama is on a fast track to disintegrate the USA from within and Romney would only have slowed the rate of decline, that’s all.

      The whole goal is to ruin the US military and to allow a Socialist style take over, while enabling the Soviet take over of Europe, the Iranian take over of the middle east and the Chinese take over of Asia.

      This has all been planned for decades.

      Welcome to your new Islamo/Socialist utopian hell hole, I hope you enjoy the Kool-Aid. :twisted:

    • DeepSouth Dave

      “I don’t doubt for a nanosecond that technical tampering would be beneath this administration either…”

      This is why English Composition teachers drill it into our heads to write simply and directly, and to avoid double negatives. This sentence parses out: “I think it’s true that technical tampering is beneath this administration.” The author wins my Blue Pencil Award for the day.

      Anyway, keep up the pressure on the vote-fraud issue! The truth will come out, eventually. It just is too absurd to think we need computerized all-electronic voting machines to tally our votes for us in precincts that for a couple hundred years have been broken up into small sizes SPECIFICALLY to make them manageable without a computer. PAPER TRAILS, PLEASE!

    • Rick Carufel

      Whining Republican’t loser bigots would rather destroy the country than be ruled by a bkack president, pitiful and pathetic.

      • yes2truth

        Obama is a Jew – his skin colour is an irrelevance. He is also surrounded by Jews many with dual citizenship so where do you think their real loyalties are?

        I know, don’t tell me, looking after the interests of deluded Americans – especially self-hating white democrats. LOL

      • HDThoreau

        You are a perfect example of a useful idiot. Thanks for bringing race into a discussion about election law.

        • yes2truth

          There’s a lot of ‘em about. Unfortunately.

      • Smartest Man Alive

        You puke, I wont be ruled by any man. What a pitiful excuse for a man you must be.

    • yes2truth

      There is no such thing as a CIVIL war.

      Civil wars are always the governments of nations making war on their own people.

      The American CIVIL war was a war by the Federal Government against The States and they used the useful idiots of the north to fight their brothers in the south.

      An evil waste of good men’s lives.

      At the end of the war both blacks and whites were slaves, the blacks have exchanged involuntary servitude for slavery and whites giving up their freedom for slavery.

    • trouble8696

      Stories like … before the Elections … there will be a CIVIL WAR if Obama is re-elected … A Texas Judge issuing a public warning for what he calls a CIVIL WAR and possible invasion of United Nations troops if President Barack Obama is re-elected…with ever growing hate among people…than news that the federal government is preparing for civil uprising…Also troubling trend in America, the rise of armed militias and PATRIOT groups who are preparing for a revolution… these groups WERE gaining memberships as the possibility of Obama’s reelection grew greater… 23 States Including Texas Filing a Petition to Secede From The United States…What U folk’s think could there be civil war in the United States :?: … I often think if the state of the U.S of A continues down the path it has been on for …X… number of years, could there be another civil war?…And if there was would you be willing to bear arms to protect your rights or to have your state secede from U.S.A :?: …or …Would you just move out of this country and live elsewhere :?: … Well none of us have a Crystal Ball…time will only Tell…. right Folk’s… :sad:

    • Htos1

      Hope so.We need a major fire to burn off all the slag in our country.

    • Sid

      I do think we are headed for civil war or revolution, but not just yet. The level of pain and suffering is still insufficient for most people to be willing to face the pain that will come from violent confrontation. Give it another 5 to 10 years and violence will erupt spontaneously.

      Not only will more pain come from continuation of tyranny from the federal government, but it will also intensify as the fraudulent, unstable, predatory, unsustainable monetary racket run by the banks falls apart. And with each day that passes we use up more of the cheap oil coming from older oil fields, and become more dependent on the expensive oil from the newer, smaller, dirtier, more remote ones. As more energy is used up to find oil, less is available to fuel the economy. As more of our wealth is drained into the bank vaults, the less citizens have on which to survive. With each new law coming out of Washington, DC, our lives become less free.

      In the interim, bend over and grab your ankles, cause that is the position to assume when dealing with government.

    • Se777en

      I love this trend of using hyperbole in the form of a question as an article to push an idea. A good media trick.
      Let me try:

      “Does Barracuda rape and sacrifice children?”

      Or how about this:

      “Is water Deadly for you?”
      Fact: Water can be chemically synthesized by burning rocket fuel!
      Fact: Water is one of the primary ingredients in herbicides and pesticides!
      Fact: Over-consumption of water can cause excessive sweating, urination, and even death!!
      Fact: 100% of all serial killers, rapists and drug dealers have admitted to drinking water!!!
      Fact: Water is the leading cause of drowning!
      Fact: 100 of all people expose to water die eventually!!!

      Dun Dun dun!!!!

      I’d say 10% of the articles on this site are valuable. The rest is just political and religious zealots blowing smoke up each other’s dresses.

      • RT

        Brilliant.

    • Reality

      The country that Ronald Reagan was the puppet president of does not exist any more the percentage of racist white males (overt and covert alike) is much less than heretofore demonstrated; thus the inexorable grip on the reins of power has been wrested away. The ascendance of the Black –Hispanic- Asian- Gay- Multi/racial-Young – union- single Women and White liberal coalition has come to the fore and its grip on the power/control mechanisms of political dominance will not subside for generations and generations to come. Welcome to your new incontrovertible reality- Accept your substantiated descent!

      You right wing, evangelical, republicans, have the unmitigated gall to decry illegal immigrants. When your ancestors came here illegally and committed genocide on the legal inhabitants. You scream belief in Jesus, yet you monger war world wide seeking to kill, mutilate and disfigure brown women and children with bombs from unmanned drones. (The irony is that you love to sanction the killing foreign brown people yet you get none of the spoils of war) The fact of the matter is Jesus was non violent and never killed or condoned the killing of anyone.

      You purport to believe in conservatism and fiscal responsibility yet you were silent on the trillions given to the banker’s world wide. Not to mention farm subsidies and off shore tax havens for the rich. You say nothing on the billions spent to kill brown people and take control of their resources. In addition the 5 poorest starts in America are all red states, receiving billions in federal aid:
      Alabama
      Louisiana
      Arkansas
      West Virginia
      Mississippi

      I’m a liberal that believes in liberty (for all you liberal haters I’m going to give a definition of liberty): 1. freedom from arbitrary or despotic government or control.
      2. freedom from external or foreign rule; independence.

      I’m not on welfare, food stamps or Medicaid, I have a great professional job –career and I’m highly educated past the graduate level. However you delude yourself with intelligence and insight as you vote for people that despise your lack of education and low income level because you are gullible and easily manipulated; the 5 least educated states in America are all red:
      West Virginia
      Arkansas
      Mississippi
      Kentucky
      Louisiana
      Wake up accept reality, educate yourself, don’t be so easily deceived and controlled: liberty is not so bad after all.
      :lol:

    • Reality

      When they disrespected and disenfranchised Ron Paul and put the puppet Romney up on the pedestal their doom was sealed. millions of Ron Paul supporters in every state refused to vote for Romney ; poetic justice has come full circle that’s why Romney got less voted than MC cane :lol: :idea:

    • anyoneamongUS

      Bravo, Eric Rush… Bravo!! i stand with you … However, my FAITH will never be able to rest in
      ‘mankind’ and i CALMLY AWAIT THE DIVINE INTERVENTION THAT IS, even now, ON THE WAY!!! HALLELUJAH, HALLELUJAH, AND HALLELUJAH TO CHRIST THE KING OF KINGS… AMEN!!!!!!!

    • anyoneamongUS

      … a small reminder to all…. we must FORGIVE in order to BE FORGIVEN … i realize that you and i cannot do this…. however, THE FATHER ‘CAN’ AND ‘WILL’………… we need only ‘ask’ and ‘BELIEVE’ and IT WILL BE DONE! As no one is above THE LAW, we are all capable (and ‘guilty’) of sin! let ‘us’ join together and with a FORGIVING heart, INVITE ‘them’ to join us… there is only 1 sin that is ‘unpardonable’…”lest we forget, and err in our ways…” if we ‘judge’ we will not escape ‘BEING JUDGED’ ( we ARE NOT able to withstand HIS JUDGEMENT )

      • yes2truth

        Rubbish, No repentance – no forgiveness.

        Luke 17:3-4 (KJV) Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. 4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

        Here is what Yashua Anointed really said:

        “Father forgive them NOT, for they are aware of what they are doing.”

        Time you people started learning The Truth instead of parroting unresearched religious nonsense.

    • anyoneamongUS

      one cannot RECEIVE FORGIVENESS without REPENTANCE also…that would be insincere … GOD KNOWS every mans’ heart … and thus, cannot be fooled… if you are sincere about wanting HIS FORGIVENESS, you REPENT as well … anyone who thinks that it’s possible to RECEIVE FORGIVENESS without REPENTANCE … well, HONESTLY , i don’t believe that anyone Really ‘believes’ that… those who ‘live’ by that creed are still ‘lost’ to this carnal world and indeed are still in need of FORGIVENESS/REPENTANCE.

      Let me put it another way,…’We’ are as incapable of TRUE REPENTANCE as we are of being able to FORGIVE ourselves… ALL BLESSINGS (FAITH, FORGIVENESS, REPENTANCE, ETC.) COME FROM THE HEAVENLY FATHER… so, … if you haven’t RECEIVED REPENTANCE… do you actually believe that you RECEIVED FORGIVENESS to begin with??

      • yes2truth

        You said that we MUST FORGIVE in order to be FORGIVEN and that is plainly NOT true nor is it Scriptural.

        We are forgiven when we are called of The Father to His Son.

        John 6:44 (KJV) No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

        At that point we confess our sins because for the first time in our lives we’re made aware of our sins and ask for forgiveness. Forgiving others doesn’t come into it.

        Please don’t quote the so called Lord’s Prayer as that is an Old Covenant prayer – “forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us” – conditional – no Grace. Yashua Anointed was under The Law when He walked this earth. Grace came in after His death and resurrection, not before.

    • Reality

      BIN is a shill for the right wing ko koo”s– all of the hatred spewed about OBAMA before the election had no effect and you still try the same tactics and expect different results (insanity). Didn’t work before wont work now!

      • yes2truth

        Of course not, it was all pre-arranged that Obama The Jew was going to win. Romney was just invited along to make up the numbers. I mean let’s face it, to hold Soviet Union style elections at this stage would wake too many people up.

        Later on when all disidents are silenced or banged up in FEMA camps then the USSAR can be truly unveiled. Now what was it you were saying about shills?

    • Markos

      The civil war of haves and havenots

    • RT

      Please stop with the low-self-esteem hate-spewing. Start to listen more to the sane side of the Republican Party:

      From Bobby Jindal, Louisiana Republican Governor:
      “One, we have got to stop dividing American voters. We need to go after 100 percent of the votes, not 53 percent — we need to go after every single vote. And second, we need to continue to show that our policies help every voter out there achieve the American dream, which is to be in the middle class, which is to be able to give their children the opportunity to get a great education, which is for their children to have even better-paying jobs than their parents.”
      “If we’re going to continue to be a competitive party and win elections on the national stage and continue to fight for our conservative principles, we need two messages to get out loudly and clearly: One, we are fighting for 100 percent of the votes, and secondly, our policies benefit every American who wants to pursue the American dream, period. No exceptions.”

      From Haley Barbour, Mississippi Republican Governor:
      “The Republican Party needs to take a proctology exam.”

      Pause and reflect on the possibility that it is the type of hate like that being spewed in this article IS the problem. Please focus instead on improving your own self-esteem.

    • JacksReport

      Barracuda…man…it’s got to have a stopping point somewhere here, does it not? From a respective point, you know I don’t dog out all of your reports and articles, but every now and again, you push off into a zone where you have no supporting evidence at all and this, I’m afraid, is one of those.

      First off, when wide-spread fraud and well-known voting irregularities were openly found in the Gore/Bush election…where merely a few thousand votes decided the outcome and where Gore actually won the popular election…Republicans did raise a finger to cry foul play at all, now did they? The result of that election is now responsible for that gigantic debt the USA now bears. Clinton left a surplus…Bush sucked it up and put our asses in debt worse than any president in US history. Now Obama catches hell over something he didn’t even do. So now, that the shoe is on the other foot, Republicans and right-wingers are all going kah-kah crazy yelling both voter fraud and secession?!?!?!?! C’mon…are you serious? Even tallying up all the states sending off these ludicrous petitions, you’ve got just a couple hundred thousand people at best. This country has MILLIONS of people in it. This is just right-wing nut-izm at it’s finest and with this article, you’re just fanning flames of insurrection.

      This country already had a civil war…one of the bloodiest in world history. We don’t need another one. When Bush won, we lefters shut up and sucked it up for eight years while that moron started multiple wars he couldn’t win and racked up a debt no one could pay. We never cried and threatened secession. Just because your side doesn’t win doesn’t give you the right to run off on your own and do what you want. Left sucks it up…Right should have to as well. And c’mon…Texas…are these people serious? Where is your military, your import/export plans, immigration…blah, blah, and blah. You can’t just up and secede from the federal government on a whim. They don’t even have a currency plan…and if they did, what will it be backed with? Hello…gold? You got none.

      Don’t take me wrong here…I’m from Louisiana…and got family in Texas. I’m about as Southern as they get, but I’m also not a moron. All this secession crap is BS spouted off by a bunch of blow-hards who have no clue what they’re even talking about doing from a reality point of view. These petitions barely represent the population of a single county in Texas…and hardly a majority or even close to it. The numbers are even lower in the other states.

      Secession is a state’s right to an extent, I personally believe. But after Lincoln’s administration, such is tantamount to treason and if it didn’t happen in 1861-65, it ain’t gonna happen now. We’re all Americans here. If we can’t accept majority rule, then the whole shebang is worth nothing. Sure you may not like Obama. Well I didn’t like Bush. It’s how the system works. We don’t run every time a candidate we don’t like gets in. We wait four years and do our best to get rid of him…and after 8, he’s gone irregardless. The system works. Maybe not always how we want it to, but it’s far better than anything anybody else has come up with.

      Cut Obama some slack. The man can’t fix eight years of f*ckup by Bush in four. Maybe not even in eight. Give him some credit…we are technically better off than we were when he took office. Maybe not a lot…but a little is better than nothing. And I like the Obama care thing much either, but I also don’t like insurance companies. We take the good with the bad sometimes. Our ability to tolerate politics is what makes our country strong and successful. Breaking off and fighting when your candidate loses…that’s third-world crap, man. This isn’t a third world country last I checked. We’re supposed to be the example to the world.

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